As a guitar player - the circle of fourths made more practical sense in playing the instrument (at least in standard tuning) because the interval between the strings, going across (down?) the fretboard from the bass side to the treble side of the fretboard, is mainly 4ths - thus the BEADGCF made it easier to memorize the note name locations on the fretboard. YMMV
As a bass player, the Circle of Fourths was a great learning and reference tool for me, since standard tuning for a bass is in fourths. I either use EADG or BEAD tuning and it's so easy remembering B E A D G C F Bb Eb Ab Db Gb
Both. Also learned that to maintain the interval relationship of the Major scale and change key by a 5th, sharp the 4. Change the key by a 4th by flattening the 7th. I think I have to review the color wheel and how it works before I can understand how it relates. Thanks for posting this video
Hello I play piano ,guitar ,keyboard and sing Thankyou for your theory on the circle of fifths which I first heard of long ago I think visual references are excellent 🎉 as I feel this encourages lateral thinking ❤ I love music and visual references Help with the enjoyment 😂 Thankyou Sheila Duke I feel better than I would if I won the lottery The potential is endless!
Heard of the Circle of Fifth first, after I started watching YT videos to learn the guitar. When I studied Solfege as a child, I was taught the "order of sharps" and "order of flats", which I can still recite very fast, but I was never shown how they relate by fifths/fourth... We were taught various algorithms to find the number of accidentals in a given keys, e.g. Major key, no flat in the name: go down one note in the pitch order, count to this note in the order of sharps. EXCEPTION!!! -we got to expect the exception whenever a rule was laid out, that was a running joke: Mind F Major, that trickster: 1b! Now that's I've seen it laid out as the Circle of Fifth it all makes so much more sense...
It makes sense since the 4th interval is the inversion of the 5th interval. That is the reason that 5ths in one driection are 4ths in the reverse driection. Note also the order C G D A E etc can be thought of as a 5th up then 4th Down 5th up then 4th down etc .
I think the circle of fourths is very prevalent in Jazz pedagogy as a a practice tool. Since so much of standard jazz harmony deals with harmony moving in the counter-clockwise direction (2-5-1s, 3-6-2-5-1s etc.) it's more useful to practice patterns going through all the keys in a counter-clockwise direction rather than a clockwise direction. A lot of the jazz musicians I know will practice licks through all keys either chromatically or around the circle of fourths.
I've always found it interesting that 5 half steps up and 5 half steps down from the root key are the 4th and 5th notes of a major key: V & IV. Find any 3 chords that go together in a key!
I’ve been a drummer for 30 years and just got serious about guitar, I am blown away by how fucking mental this is. Scales and melody were never on my radar for 30 years of playing drums.
Circle of 5ths I just want to make sure I'm interpreting correctly. If I'm in the key of C, then go to G, if I know I want to go back to the 4th, do I need to go thru C to get there?
I just wants play so bad, I'm reading books, watching videos, listening to piano song, watching tutorials, what's it gonna take to make it click🤔 I touch my piano keys every time I pass it. I play morning and night. I love it but what else can I try? And I'm dyslexic is that why it's so hard for me?
I'm in the UK and heard first about the circle of fifths, but most of my learning came from TH-cam, so a lot of that is USA based.... I'm curious to try building the circle clockwise/ascending because it would take fewer octaves. Going up 5 semitones brings you to the same note as going down 7, but on a different octave. I have my own thought experiment in which I visualise the chromatic scale as a spiral staircase where each C for example is above or below it's octave 'neighbour'.
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As a guitar player - the circle of fourths made more practical sense in playing the instrument (at least in standard tuning) because the interval between the strings, going across (down?) the fretboard from the bass side to the treble side of the fretboard, is mainly 4ths - thus the BEADGCF made it easier to memorize the note name locations on the fretboard. YMMV
As a bass player, the Circle of Fourths was a great learning and reference tool for me, since standard tuning for a bass is in fourths. I either use EADG or BEAD tuning and it's so easy remembering B E A D G C F Bb Eb Ab Db Gb
Both. Also learned that to maintain the interval relationship of the Major scale and change key by a 5th, sharp the 4. Change the key by a 4th by flattening the 7th. I think I have to review the color wheel and how it works before I can understand how it relates. Thanks for posting this video
Hello I play piano ,guitar ,keyboard and sing Thankyou for your theory on the circle of fifths which I first heard of long ago
I think visual references are excellent 🎉 as I feel this encourages lateral thinking ❤ I love music and visual references
Help with the enjoyment 😂 Thankyou Sheila Duke I feel better than I would if I won the lottery The potential is endless!
Heard of the Circle of Fifth first, after I started watching YT videos to learn the guitar. When I studied Solfege as a child, I was taught the "order of sharps" and "order of flats", which I can still recite very fast, but I was never shown how they relate by fifths/fourth... We were taught various algorithms to find the number of accidentals in a given keys, e.g. Major key, no flat in the name: go down one note in the pitch order, count to this note in the order of sharps. EXCEPTION!!! -we got to expect the exception whenever a rule was laid out, that was a running joke: Mind F Major, that trickster: 1b! Now that's I've seen it laid out as the Circle of Fifth it all makes so much more sense...
It makes sense since the 4th interval is the inversion of the 5th interval. That is the reason that 5ths in one driection are 4ths in the reverse driection. Note also the order C G D A E etc can be thought of as a 5th up then 4th Down 5th up then 4th down etc .
I’m so glad to find out that the circle of fourths is the same as the fifths. It took me long enough to learn it the first time around!
Great video, kinda crazy it happens to work this way
I'd heard of both but had no clue what the circle of fourths was. These videos are very clearly explaining the concepts
I think the circle of fourths is very prevalent in Jazz pedagogy as a a practice tool. Since so much of standard jazz harmony deals with harmony moving in the counter-clockwise direction (2-5-1s, 3-6-2-5-1s etc.) it's more useful to practice patterns going through all the keys in a counter-clockwise direction rather than a clockwise direction. A lot of the jazz musicians I know will practice licks through all keys either chromatically or around the circle of fourths.
I've always found it interesting that 5 half steps up and 5 half steps down from the root key are the 4th and 5th notes of a major key: V & IV. Find any 3 chords that go together in a key!
I’ve been a drummer for 30 years and just got serious about guitar, I am blown away by how fucking mental this is. Scales and melody were never on my radar for 30 years of playing drums.
Drummer just discovering music
Haha ...non musician who is at every gif
This is way over my head first I ever heard of it
thank you so much!
Locrian mode 🙏💥
Cool. I have that planned for sure.
OK. So how do you use the Circle of Fifths tool to play harmony for guitar or piano? Use the Tool and demonstrate it's use for guitar or piano.
Circle of 5ths
I just want to make sure I'm interpreting correctly. If I'm in the key of C, then go to G, if I know I want to go back to the 4th, do I need to go thru C to get there?
Hola. Does anyone know what the squares and colored circles mean in the images in the tutorials??? yhanks.
I just wants play so bad, I'm reading books, watching videos, listening to piano song, watching tutorials, what's it gonna take to make it click🤔 I touch my piano keys every time I pass it. I play morning and night. I love it but what else can I try? And I'm dyslexic is that why it's so hard for me?
I'm in the UK and heard first about the circle of fifths, but most of my learning came from TH-cam, so a lot of that is USA based....
I'm curious to try building the circle clockwise/ascending because it would take fewer octaves. Going up 5 semitones brings you to the same note as going down 7, but on a different octave. I have my own thought experiment in which I visualise the chromatic scale as a spiral staircase where each C for example is above or below it's octave 'neighbour'.
Awesome -- I'm glad it helps.
I would say the guitar is designed to be taught from the perspective of the circle of fourths. But that's just my opinion.
I learned circle of fourths in a jazz class cause the standard go to chord progression … I vi ii V I
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BEADGCF
Not the best explanation I’ve heard, personally.