Sajam Talks Learning New Games & Core-A Gaming's New Fighting Game Glossary
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- PLEASE watch the full video "Analysis: Why Button Mashing Doesn't Work" at • Analysis: Why Button M... It's the greatest video glossary that the FGC has ever had.
Core-A Gaming is a beast, so you should probably watch all his other stuff too.
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streamed May 16, 2019
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Thanks for recognizing and sharing this! Sajam commentated my video. Life complete.
Hey Gerald! Awesome work as always homie, good running into you briefly at CB. Looking forward to whatever you make next!
Core-A Gaming your videos are godlike
I heard you mention another content creator named hifi i think, whos that? I cant find him
@@jz13frt Twitter and TH-cam: HiFight
Core-A, your videos that are directed towards new-intermediate audiences are fantastic. better than most fighting game based video "tutorials"
Core-A Gaming is that doctor that distracts the baby with silly faces and gives the shot without him realizing.
Perfect!
That's exactly right
Or a teacher that you loved and actually learned from
Kbrad getting hit with that kage mix was hilarious
I can't find the find clip again but I'm pretty sure it's Evil Ryu and not Kage FYI.
@@Gametube007 He's called Kage in SFV. It's because he's like Ryu's ghost, the dark hadou's manifestation.
@@generalpenny - My bad, I thought it was old footage from SSF4AE.
@@generalpenny ryus inner demons
Good thing ryu repelled him with the power of christ- i mean zen
@@Rex-golf_player810 Praise
That "--37" that briefly pops up in the "How do you defeat Sheng Long" bit around 15:27 is such a supremely condensed teaching moment, despite being presented as a throwaway bit. I love it!
The vid's already so long past explaining frame advantage that it's not immediately in the forefront of the viewer's mind, but not too long to quickly come to mind; perfect timing for an "Oh yeah, *that*" moment. It also integrates the concept of "plus/minus on block" into the whiff punish concept that was introduced even earlier in the vid, in a way that immediately contextualizes it at a pace more akin to actual gameplay. And because the bit isn't explicitly called out as such, it allows the viewer to piece it together on their own in a "safer" environment than in actual playtime where a hundred other potential factors can distract from the intended lesson. All of this works together to empower the viewer's ability to understand and analyze the ideas presented, in a reactive way that is much more easily transferrable to the viewer's own playtime. Fricken brilliant!
I’ve watched this video when it first came out, when he uploaded the family friendly version, and now the third time with your comments, which make me appreciate it even more
I would watch a Core-A video even if the title would be "fighting games suck" or "don't watch"
idk why this made me laugh so much lol
Because he would somehow clickbait but also reverse clickbait and make an interesting lesson about judging a book by its cover or some shit lol
TH-cam oki stronk
"Coolsvill sucks"
"Yo dude, footsies in neutral are super important you know" he said, before losing to online scrub that was randomly jumping all over the screen.
and this is how i ranked up in Tekken 7, just find the people obsessed with buzzwords and use Akuma :^)
And this is the point that the loser should know that they should learn anti-airs instead of just knowing about the term "anti-air".
Tfw you gotta point out the meaning of Core-A to your friend.
Core-A
Corea
Korea.
20th like
Deep... :O
I love how sajam introduces his subs...
Shwelpz Gonzalez he’s hella slick with it
S m o o t h
Both Core-A and Sajam made me love fighting games so much more from their content
Who's the other guy sajam mentioned in the video
It's in the last minute of the videi
@@platinumorange1034 That would be HiFight. He is known for clipping tons of cool, funny, intense, entertaining or otherwise significant highlights during game sets, as well as fighting game-related content, and putting them on twitter. A lot of them are from tourney streams, but a lot of them are also from off-stream sets or online replays. They're great to look at on their own, but he's also great at contextualizing the importance of them for those who might not understand/appreciate the clip on their own.
@@yusefpittman529 yeah but does he have a TH-cam channel
It's even master class that he name drops "FADC combo" but deliberately doesn't explain it is pretty masterful.
This collab of breakdown fgs and then sajam analysis is gonna help and bring in thousands of new players. Love to see it
I sent this to friends I wanted to understand how fighting games work.
Ghandi 100% knows what hes doing.
You dont get 24000 battle points with any character without knowing why
Hes not a technical player but he didnt need to be
He was aware what the fuck he was doing to absolutely rip his opponent apart
He had fundamentals, and fundamentals were enough to win.
I’ve been playing fighting games for two years now and this video finally explained the plus on block minus on block in a way that I got. There was a key point I was missing and now it was clarified.
For the longest time I did not know what oki was, I tried looking it up and couldn’t really get it, but after watching his video, I finally got it 👌🌝👍
The way Core-A travels through a lecture is like he's telling a story of learning
What's funny is that Noctis (pl) is actually Noctum
Thanks high school Latin class.
Thanks. I got a good laugh out of "Both Noctie"
Actually it would be "Noctium" if the name is genitiv of the latin word "nox". But names are nominative and therefore the plural would most likely be "noctes"
Sorry to be THAT asshole...
I don't think that's correct
2 years later of watching this pov and the of, and the top-secret wake-up Shoryuken always gets me.
Core A Gaming got me into fighting game and when I watched this video, none of the terms stuck with me until a few months later.
Sajam, glad you also loved the video. Because of the Core A I started looking into frame data. My game has improved so much after watching it.
l0l that mix up clip was AMAAAAAAAAAAAZING.
Whats better then watch your favorite videos? Some one talking about how great they are!
Right he's so great. I love core-a-gaming I'm happy to see someone talk bout him. This video is great too
Sajam... I needed this video. Way more than you know. Thank you... I appreciate alot of your content, pretty much all of it, but when these kinds of in depth looks, and conversations take place for talent like me. It fills in, little by little, the void that blocks the motivation, inspiration, and all the things you need to get better as a player, and person.
It's weird to not see an Italian Beef in Sajam's hands.
Core-A: "Tekken let's you hit people on the ground, or hit while down, but you still have to get up eventually"
Lei Wulong and Bears: are we jokes to you?
Lmao wut. I get it that it's a joke, but it's a terrible one. What makes you think the bears and lei don't need to get up?
@@countdookie6987 "I get that it's a joke, but here's me saying something that admits I dont get that it's a joke"
Really???
@@Phurzt wtf? Are you high? Does that really mean I don't get it? Do I have to repeat it? I get the damn joke since the bears and lei have moves while lying down aside from the spring kicks, toe kicks and sweeps that the rest of the cast doesn't have. It's a very terrible joke or at the very least, wrong use of the meme. And you're wondering why your original comment doesn't have many likes. Now go ahead, make multiple accounts to increase it
@@countdookie6987 it's a God damn joke, my dude.
@@Phurzt Well I just stated my opinion how that joke is brass shit my dude.
We need more people playing fighters so the genre can continue. Esports is helping but we need to move units too. Thanks Sajam.
Randomly clicking on this Core-A Gaming video got me started wanting to learn fighting games! What a great discussion!
over the last year i made ir a goal of mine to get good at fighting games. ive always enjoyed playing them but pretty much was your average 1 minute memorization of the combo screen and then playing a match a couple times and then your done type player. over the last year i ended up getting an arcade stick, finding out what felt right for me, picked a handful of games and have spent the last year playing new games against new people and having fun losing lots and learning how to play. the biggest times i've made strides in understanding how to be good at fighting games and play with intention almost always fall in line in some way with the release of new videos from core A. hahah i've been doing this just out of need to challenge myself after ng+7'ing every dark souls and finding that the games i used to play weren't filling that same need for challenge like dark souls was. fighting games filled that big time, honestly couldn't agree with you enough when talking about gerald and his videos. the dudes videos have not only made me a better player but they make me excited to play these games which i'll admit as a filthy casual i had my moments where playing against anyone that's not a pc had to be a party situation where they probably suck as much as i did.
This video is so conprehensive and clear, it teaches so many concepts, it the greates begginer guide i have ever seen for fighting games.
It's so great and refreshing to show love and put the spotlight on creators ♥ let's make this more of a common thing
Such a great video man. NO ONE has ever explained frame traps that well to me. It’s just math. I get it now.
Core-A-Gaming is so good I enjoy watching this video analyzing their videos.
I've already shown two people Core-A Gaming's video to get them to understand how fighting games work and I'm sure I'll continue do so in the future.
That's some beatiful fanboying at the end, I love it
best collaboration Sajam and Core
I've been watching Gerald for a while now and his content is perfect but who's the other content creator you mentioned? High fight?
Hi Fight. His videos break downs the frame datas in pro matches. Quite interesting cause it shows you the choices the pros does in slow motion.
I only noticed now, Core-A says "Ungamentals" instead of fundamentals, damn that cracked me up.
Who's the other content creator he is talking about at the end of the video? The one that he says is as important as Core-A-Gaming?
This guy
th-cam.com/video/7LNmRAD_evk/w-d-xo.html
@@invertbrid Thanks, I didn't get a notification.
the comment replying to you disappeared and I really wanted to know too damnnnnnn
14:10 I love my Ungamentals
Did Sajam put up a video that is the entirety of another video??? Lmao(both videos are amazing for different reasons, lols)
I play Tekken 7 it's my first and honestly only fighting game. I've been playing over a year now. Trying to get into other fighters. But 2D just doesn't seem to catch me as much as Tekken. I think UNIST is a amazing game though I can't play it well and it's not exactly my cup of tea doesn't mean it's bad. I try SFV and nothing catches me except nostalgia from my childhood characters. I feel so bored playing 2D at times to and watching it sometimes I feel like a solid 20 seconds is devoted to one person holding down back. When I play 2D I get bored very quickly. I really want to branch out but nothing seems as interesting as Tekken to me.
Moses Owens How about Soul Calibur?
@@Gint._ I really enjoy that game just lack of local community is the only negative. Very underrated fighter imo
Moses Owens Oh I gotcha, I’m not really into 3D fighting games, I was just recommending, thought I should have though you knew about Soul Calibur already lol
@@Gint._ All good you were trying to help. Honestly old 2D ones interest me I guess nostalgia
Moses Owens Yeah I understand that
meanwhile my dumb ass didn't like the vid because I felt like "wtf he baited me with this title and proceeded to explain a bunch of stuff I already know."
I was wondering what meaty meant (I don't play a lot of SF) this core-a's vid helped me understand
Me too. I still don't why it's called meaty though.
Sajam still got the S-tier segue skills
Did anyone else say "bless you" IRL at 8:04 or just me?
It is a bit irony when people say fighting games suck because you just mash buttons to play or win, while for me fighting games are the reason I no longer button mashes when playing games even on non fighting games.
2:45 i really cannot believe the fact that someone made a fucking walking dead fighting game
that is tekken
Yes man I was thinking that while watching his video!
14:10 uNGAMENTALS
Whos HiFight?
Core A is a blessing
Where is Hi Fi's channel? I couldn't find it.
here's his channel, but he is probably more known for his twitter th-cam.com/channels/0ur6YKLy23KAumI0bwJRBg.html which is @HiFightTH
Same
@@emi_fisher thanks dude
GIVE GERALD'S VIDEO A LIKE, YOU MONSTER! Great video though.
oh that was so meaty
I love core a gaming
2:59 Pretty sure necks aren't supposed to twist like that
You had an idea didn't you.
Who was the other content creator? HiFi? or High Five? Wanna check his channel out too
As Gerald would have said..
Fighting game glossaries are assam.
is sajam saying high fight or hype fight? I want to check out that channel
George F hifight!
Bro I always watch your vids but never subscribed because I'm a scrub lol but I did now good shit bro. Love your commentary bro
Praise ghandi 🙏 our beautiful scrub savior
Who's the hi fi dude he mentioned in the video
It's at the last minute of the video
HiFight. He is best known for his presence on Twitter: twitter.com/hifightth
I wonder if *this* video will become age restricted
But why you no click notification bell
15:04
*LMAO*
6:42 As a zangief player, don't get me started on dhalsim players. Just... don't...
While you are at it see effects of salt by gerald and do another video like this
I'm beginning to think this Core A video was scripted using a flow chart.
Who is hifi?
Both Nocti
clearly this Core-A gaming guy has never played DBFZ
Kappa...
Dragon ball is the game of mashing and since it was my first fighting game it’s hard not to mash anymore, moving to mk11 was a big switch up since it was my first mk as well, I try not to mash anymore but it’s hard not to and I get whiff punished all the time
Auto combo mechanics stunt ur progress
Get gud
I love the K-brad clip. "Ima block this whack ass mixup......Ahhhh!" LOL I got hit by that shit too as I watched it
We don't deserve Gerald he is too good
My biggest takeaway from this is, even though every single bit of data in a fighting game is 1s and 0s, how you interpret and apply them is decimal as hell.
Which IMO is what makes fighting games compelling. All the frame data in the universe means nothing in a void. The real game is between the two players. The reason we still play Third Strike two decades later is because even though the software never changes, the players do.
Decimals are also one and zeros. I think the word is it's a spectrum?
It's also why there will always be people who don't care about another franchise and stick to theirs. They feel superior in terms of knowledge. So, there's no need to prove anything.
I'm stealing this analogy.
Core-A is the reason I started getting into fighting games, I really appreciate his videos.
Can anybody give the link to the channel of the other guy sajam mentioned?
Core A Gaming made me want to play fighting games. But Sajam made me keep playing fighting games.
Exactly the same for me
The FGC really is full of amazing people. I'm just so happy I got to discover all these games, and then people.
So you're saying this is the truest ultimate form of clickbaiting scrubs into cultured, educated fighting game players.
who is this "high5" or whatever sajam talks at the end?
What is the other channel’s name that Sajam mentioned at the end of the vid? High fight?
If anyone watching his now can tell me who is the second content creator he mentions talking to at EVO Japan, i would greatly appreciate it. At minute 21 more or less, he mentions someone called like "high fy" or something like that"
HiFight
Props for highlighting Core-A Gaming dude, literally my favourite content creator. Pure genius!
Video should've been called Sajam simping over Core-A Gaming
Thanks I actually learned a lot from this video
My personal issue with playing multiple fighting games is that... I'm retarded. No, seriously, it's my utter inability to separate games (even cross-genre!) when it comes to muscle memory and decision making.
So, for example, now, I am messing around with mk11. That required me to basically play like 50 hours in training mode, just in order to stop blocking by down-back all the time, stop whiffing every jump in and stop trying to do link combos. But, that's not all. I played online for a few hours, did way better than expected and I am still blocking with down-back like 20% of the time and all that jazz. The reason I am doing ok online is because I am utilizing fundamentals that are independent from a specific game, as Sajam mentioned, but that's about it. The rest is a major pain in the ass. And that's not the whole story lol. I also mess up buttons (ie think my block is my "heavy kick" etc) and try to whiff punish normals that reach twice the distance I am at. Because I am currently used to sfv, which is stubbier.
I even anti air with b2, because I play Ibuki in sfv. Which, with Kitana, doesn't yield the greatest results:)
Luckily, I play Kitana, which I think is perfect for a newcommer, due to how focused she is on confirming and EXTREMELY basic mixups and she's quite grounded and can rely on footsies much more than, say Scorpion. So, even if a Scorpion player is better than me in many regards, I still stand a chance, which wouldn't be a case if I played Scorpion, for example.
Now, when I decide to mess with sfv again, this will require the whole resetting and learning process. This is the most fucking unrewarding and tedious thing ever. So, basically, I will have to do the whole 50 hours shtick again in order to be at like 70% of myself in sfv before I started playing mk11 and then grind the next 30% for WEEKS, if not months. And only then will I be able to even think about pushing past my former self. This process will, of course, erase mk11 completely and so on and so on.
This is so frustrating, not only because of the time, but because the feeling of relearning something so basic and having such a hard time with "riding a bike again" is so defeating. It's one thing to practice something from your current plateau, even if you fail for millions of times. I am no stranger to long and repetitive training room sessions in fighting games. But, it's a completely different thing to relearn something and to have such a horrible pace while doing it.
My muscle memory compartmentalization (should we call it that?) is so bad, that this is not only applicable when I try to switch games back and forth, but also when I try to switch characters. It's not even less hours or less work. If I go from Ibuki to Karin, it's the same process, same duration and all. Going back to Ibuki is the same.
I even fired up an FPS game once, during a period I played mostly sfv and, I am not lying, the map loaded and I didn't shoot at people for like two minutes and was just dying all over again, because my brain didn't switch to the notion that bullets don't care about distance between players. So, I instinctively wanted to close the distance and play footsies or whatever my stupid brain was trying to do. It didn't help that the perspective was different, control system was different (mouse/keyboard) etc. The good thing is, it lasted for like two minutes of that and the next half an hour or so of missing buttons and having weird muscle memory takeover flashbacks where I wanted to combo someone or something like that. After that, I played really badly, but luckily, the reason for that was that I got rusty. Not that I was trying to combo into super in fucking Quake or something.
I love to play fighting games, I think I have majority of even mildly "significant" ones that came out on pc. I played them all. And all of them required painful two weeks or so before and painful two weeks or so after in order for me to play them even close to normal.
People usually tell me how playing more games helps with that compartments to settle in, but guys, I have played dozens and dozens of fighting games and these "emptying the glass" periods didn't get a second shorter or anything.
Before I wrote this and when Sajam mentioned multiple games, I deliberately went into sfv and queued for a casual match, I don't know why, just because:) And... I did three raw sweeps in a row because I wanted to block low and then I just let go of controls:) It's actually hilarious.
Wall of text crits you for 9000 damage! This was just a rant into the aether, I am a moron, have a nice day:)
I didn’t read this shit but yeah it’s funny when I parry in SFV and just get hit because I forgot i’m not playing 3rd strike
Core-A is to content what Sajam is to segues
Lmao💀
It strikes me as odd how this "larning multiple games" has become an issue. E-sports seem to have brought a level of specialization that was never there before. Before there were fighting game players, but now it seems there just [game] players.
Fighting game veterans will even recommend you to play multiple games if you really want to get better.
@@2000Doriyas You get better anyway, just not in a major tournament winning level, which most won't reach anyway. Why care so much about tournament results that you would potentially limit your own enjoyment? Well, people now are starting to live off specific games, which is one reason. As to why currently less relevant people do it I would guess is because they want to have the chance of becoming a professional.
I personally do not care, so I still play the games I enjoy regardless of amount.
ok boomer
It's the same as one tricking a character. While branching into other characters and games will make you better, you'll always be the best at the one thing you focus on.
Korea Gaming
11:00 This was only an issue because Tekken has a 1000 moves that grant combos and it has universal moves but don't stress their importance. In a game like Virtua Fighter, every character has a 12F jab (Some have 11) 14 frame elbow/mid (Vanessa 10F mid from Defensive stance) 12F down jab, and throws 10 frames. (Wolf 9F forward Throw) You can win without any character specific moves. Great tutorial and AI to learn, in-game frame data etc. Point is, Tekken makes itself appear flashy and people assume too much about how it should be played while VF encourages fundamentals out the gate.
That's why Tekken never was a better fighter imo
15:03
You're welcome
WHOS HIFI
when i button mash,it works,when i know which buttons to mash..
Core A Gaming is LITERALLY the ONLY channel out of something like 50 channels im subscribed to that I actually have the notification bell turned on for.
Shoulda titled it as "Analysis: Analysis: Why Button Mashing Doesn't Work".
Haha, I liked the video. You should commentate more of Core-A Gaming videos XD