The first landing was super sketchy. To slow on the downwind? That makes no sense. He was in a dive. The elevator flutter is consistent with digital servo flutter from when your right thumb slips off the stick. The guy is a sketchy flier. Too much money not enough time and skill on that plane.
I see it as he was trying to get low, or land, and missed. Been flying for years and NEVER lost a plane from "radio failure". If your flying a plane of that caliber, your not using FRSky, your using the best, so how does it failsafe at 100 feet?? Stop using "equipment failure" as an excuse for bad piloting!!!!!!! He was all over the place on the ground, and in the air.
@@ChainsawFPV FRSKY is one of the best systems in the market now days. I fly Frsky on 3 giant scale planes and have never had a problem, can’t say the same why I was on JR or Spektrum
@@crgonzalez08 Tracer and ELRS are the only Rx systems I trust. FRSky, FlySky and Spectrum are nothing but problems.. There is a constant supply of videos of people having issues on them. Never once have I seen a video on someone losing a plane on ELRS or TBS.
Looked like more throw than flutter. Flutter usually happens so rapidly the control surface is destroyed. Looks possibly like the linkage let go, or control horn failed.
Called a radio lockout. Listen to the "hit" on the throttle servo a second before the elevator pitched down. Easy to see and hear with the eyes and ears!!
Remember this - The difference between a model and "real" is the "real" aircraft is designed to carry people. A model is not. However, that thing would easily haul a cat or small dog :)
Gyro would have likely caused a higher frequency of oscillations but could have been the cause. However if you listen to the sound carefully you can hear a couple changes in RPM which suggest an intermttent failsafe. These rpm changes correspond with the pitch oscillations. Looks like he was flying jeti so it would have logged any radio issues. Hopefully he lets us know the true cause of the accident as im sure many jeti users like myself would be very interested in seeing if it was a radio issue
Aerodynamic loads on the elevator were overpowering the servo. Or a servo failure. It was a slow up and down movement and definitely not elevator flutter.
That was hilarious. The whole horizontal stabilizer looked to flutter until the slow motion showed just both elevators. So that makes me think it was the pilot. Maybe his thumb slipped off the stick or maybe he just messed up.
@@ShockeWulf190 What are you talking about? The flutter was consistent of digital servo flutter when you slip on the sticks. He was going way to fast to recover if he slipped off the right stick. He flew it to the ground. Controlled crash pilot error. Their excuse was too slow on the down wind. At that speed heading toward the ground. If your right thumb slips you are not going to recover. The guy is a sketchy flier. Too much money not enough skill
I agree. He was all over the place on the ground, grabbing radio from eachother like they were nervous little kids. Was trying to fly it like a jet, not a stol plane. Lack of experience and knowledge is the only issue here. !00% pilot error.
The pilot couldn't even taxi in a straight line. I think he exceeded the tail structural limits or servo limits. The engine sounded like it was starving for fuel.
Bank balance seems to exceed setup and flying skills. I've seen it many times over my 50+ years model flying experience. Only yesterday, a loads-a-money newby did a horrible hand launch of their fancy new EDF jet. Boom, into the ground. Undeterred, they will buy another one for next week! Only passed their proficiency test (BMFA A certificate) a couple of weeks ago and already want to go for their B certificate. God save us. I hope I'm wrong and it was a dodgy servo or other electronic equipment failure. It's very rare these days, though. If you don't want keyboard post-mortems, then don't post 😉
@@johnnichol9412 Every field has the crusty old farts sitting up under the clubhouse & who nobody has ever seen fly anything, judging everybody else. Clearly Mr. Hutson is "that guy"
That’s a possibility. If so then he had his failsafe all messed up. Lockouts do tend to happen more often from head on flying if no rx is mounted high or low enough
@@thatairplaneguy it’s 100% lockout. Big problem out there for many many years. They see engine power like it was supposed to. It came back for a second and cut it again.
Looks more like when he got it really cooking the elevator fluttered...could also be if he had a gyro the gains were too high and the speed exposed that so it oscillated. I think he cut the throttle himself. Either way the elevator fluttered for sure, and saying it was 100% anything is a stretch without being there. We're all guessing. Lol.
@@ModelAV8RChannel that’s my home flying field. I’ve got people who were there and problems with Jeti lately. I will bet on it being a lock out. You can hear and see it. No way he pulled throttle and back on that quickly. Trust me when I say radio lock outs are a daily issue there. All pretty much on the right side of the field (where it locked out). That was not flutter that was glitching.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Interesting it would only affect the elevator then? I wouldn't think the elevator on that plane would react that fast. Sure did look like flutter but maybe not. Did he have telemetry? Anyway, lock out or whatever it was it sucks regardless...nice plane. I feel for him.
I would say 100% radio issue, cutting in and out. The oscillations along with engine cutting in and out are like the link going in and out of failsafe.
The pilot flew the plane beyond the limits of the electronics. Elevator servo drew too much power and starved power from the other servos - hence why the engine was intermittently glitching out. I don't think it's the radio or elevator's fault. Pilot flew too fast on a plane meant to be flown slowly.
Any large scale radio install should have power distribution systems capable of producing more than any modern servo would normally draw and they also isolate each servo so any short will only effect that individual channel. They also run off of multiple batteries and receivers that can be isolated/ignored when a fault is detected. This is common practice now, with some radio manufacturers even offering power distribution and redundant features in their flagship receiver packages. My largest sailplane uses not only two main radio batteries and four independent signal sources/receivers, but I also run all non-critical servo functions through a completely separate power distribution system running on it's own power source. If a retract servo or brake servo locks up and completely drains the secondary power source, my flight controls aren't effected in the least. If you are flying something this big without multiple redundancies in your radio set up, you are not only a fool, but are endangering all those around you when your large scale model is powered up and/or flying.
Wow! .....the ground just came up and got that thing! .....i suspect massive servo power loading on that RX power buss. On my large models i use a UBEC in parallel with ESC RX power, i beef up the RX power rails and i got a 10,000uf 25V capacitor across the RX power rail.
@poochies0316 One way i've used is to carefully run solder across all the positive (center pins) and also the negative pins, thus creating two rails that can handle greater current. I use heavier gauge wire to connect these to a UBEC or a dedicated RX LiFe battery. I may also use a 10000uf 25V capacitor at this point. Long servo lead runs like aileron and elevator I do with heavy duty servo extensions. I may also use a heavy duty "Y" lead out at those servos and plug 4700uf or 10000uf caps out at those points to buffer current demand at those servos to mitigate voltage drops at those points during moments of high current demands. I have this presently on my Bergen Gasser and Turbine helicopters, my 120mm EDF Ultra Viper jet and my new T-28 Trojan.
Obviously the elevator fluttered. But I don't think he was going fast enough for an aerodynamic flutter. You could also hear the engine surge. I think radio problem caused elevator to flutter and engine to surge and hence crash.
Did you watch the video? Or at least go back to see that it clearly isn't a Spektrum box? You been eating your crayons again haven't you Rob. Spektrum, Spektrum 🤣
Been flying spektrum since they came out with the 2.4ghz. Never lost a plane die to my radio gear. Spektrum is great equipment. Just because you can only afford open TX and and it hurts your feelings. 😂
To me it looked like signal loss with the simultaneous engine surge and pitch oscillation just before the carnage. If I've learned one thing, whether it's a $5 or a $10,000 aircraft, they all seem to have an expiration date!
Everyone in here opining about the cause of the crash and I’m over here just hoping the camera person gets some treatment for the epilepsy they appear to be suffering from.
Sorry for your loss. Please don’t take it as an offense but it looks like you should not be flying this kind of model. People can get hurt real bad. If it wasn’t for the radio/servo loss you would have crashed it sooner or later. Your flying does not look very coordinated. Don’t be tempted to buy the biggest plane you can get, buy the best one for your skillset.
Here’s my two cents looks like classic elevator flutter. Check your servos and linkages,I think you’ll find stripped gears. When flying giant scale airplanes you’re only as good as your weakest link and it’s good advice to fly it like a scale airplane.
Went into failsafe. You can hear the motor go to reduced throttle and the elevator centers. He was pulling up and then you hear the motor cut and the elevator goes to neutral again. It did it twice in those 1-2 seconds before the impact. Ugh.... sickening feeling.
@@mam362 The pair showed multiple amateurish things - from the power up whilst he held the rudder, the flying, the take off, motor tuning. Impossible to tell what went wrong without more info. ? Had it been flown before? Has CG been checked (looked very twitchy /pitching during flight. Was a gyro used - if yes, was it on during whole flight?
Yes we do. I just pilled a 104” plane and I laughed. I also had a servo fail and crash my 12ft telemaster earlier this year. I also laughed. The best advise I was ever given was if you know you’re going to crash then just sit back and enjoy it because everyone else will.
@@thatairplaneguythat’s good advice. I’m coming from quads where a crash usually does nothing, maybe shortens the life of the electronics. Planes are so much more fragile, I think the only thing to do is laugh about it and then enjoy building a new one (and learn from mistakes to try not to make the same one twice).
Oh sorry! I think the CG was too forward, so during the dive the elevator couldn't bring it up whilst the engine power was low. Aerodynamic loading on elevator
You know what they say, the rules at Markham Park are the one's you make up!!! he will be at RC shop tomorrow buying another one... $3500+ in the hole, its another long list of crashes at Markham were you have more money than sense.
Pilot had no idea how to fly a Carbon Cub or too weak hardware was installed. Full throttle should only be applied on uplines, all other flying should be at half or less throttle. Plenty of throttle and speed before the crash, either flutter, linkage, servo or pilot failure/error.
German: "! Stööööööööruuuung !" ..... splash.... (idk the english shout out for it. Could be something like "disturbance", when the remote control starts to have issues) No pilot error. You can clearly hear and see, that the receiver has issues interpreting the controls. All axis including engine are starting to flip. What a pitty...
@@johnnichol9412 and how do you know which radio system was being used? Did I touch a nerve? Oh dear cry me a river ducky, and oh no, strike me down because autocorrect changed the spelling. Awe I hope you’re coping ok, that must be so difficult for you…
@@testpilotian3188 The radio is visible in a number of shots, not a Spektrum. It looks like I am the one that touched a nerve, you are criticising Spektrum yet you can't spell the name. Autocorrect is not correcting Spektrum to spectrum. Cry me a river.
Why TF does a cub that size have 200 CC in it? That's overpowered even for a 3D plane. Then you take this clearly incorrect plane and do a full ,power drive towards the ground. This was 100% user error.
VNE = 3 knots less than that. Play it back in 0.25 speed and you can watch that tail flutter, violently. I believe rapid pitch oscillations were causing the engine issues.
If you think it was too slow on a downwind then you need help
😂 true that!
Flutter, servo failure or pushrod failure. My side hurts from laughing! sorry.
100% pilot error.
I thought the same thing 😂
yes, exactly my thoughts 😅👍
elevator flutter or maybe just elevator control/limnage failure in my opinion
The first landing was super sketchy. To slow on the downwind? That makes no sense. He was in a dive. The elevator flutter is consistent with digital servo flutter from when your right thumb slips off the stick. The guy is a sketchy flier. Too much money not enough time and skill on that plane.
And Camera Crew needs to switch to decaf 👍
Exactly. This was a perfect example of more money then skill.
The sound of the engine skidding down the runway cracked me up.
I see it as he was trying to get low, or land, and missed. Been flying for years and NEVER lost a plane from "radio failure". If your flying a plane of that caliber, your not using FRSky, your using the best, so how does it failsafe at 100 feet?? Stop using "equipment failure" as an excuse for bad piloting!!!!!!! He was all over the place on the ground, and in the air.
@@ChainsawFPV FRSKY is one of the best systems in the market now days. I fly Frsky on 3 giant scale planes and have never had a problem, can’t say the same why I was on JR or Spektrum
@@crgonzalez08 Tracer and ELRS are the only Rx systems I trust. FRSky, FlySky and Spectrum are nothing but problems.. There is a constant supply of videos of people having issues on them. Never once have I seen a video on someone losing a plane on ELRS or TBS.
Looks like flutter on the elevator
Looked like more throw than flutter. Flutter usually happens so rapidly the control surface is destroyed. Looks possibly like the linkage let go, or control horn failed.
Flutter is a rapid vibration of the surface, that was an up and down movement repeated three times.
Called a radio lockout. Listen to the "hit" on the throttle servo a second before the elevator pitched down. Easy to see and hear with the eyes and ears!!
The main cause is flying it like a 1970's piped .60 pattern plane. Cub's don't make high speed passes.
thats right
The more expensive and bigger they get the more checks you do... the whole thing is approaching the full size protocol.
Remember this - The difference between a model and "real" is the "real" aircraft is designed to carry people. A model is not. However, that thing would easily haul a cat or small dog :)
Radio failure. Engine was intermittently failsafeing right before impact
If there was a gyro inside, there ist the reason.
to much gain brings flutter on higher speeds. Just easy as this
Bull…. That was pilot error all day!
Gyro would have likely caused a higher frequency of oscillations but could have been the cause. However if you listen to the sound carefully you can hear a couple changes in RPM which suggest an intermttent failsafe. These rpm changes correspond with the pitch oscillations. Looks like he was flying jeti so it would have logged any radio issues. Hopefully he lets us know the true cause of the accident as im sure many jeti users like myself would be very interested in seeing if it was a radio issue
Aerodynamic loads on the elevator were overpowering the servo. Or a servo failure. It was a slow up and down movement and definitely not elevator flutter.
I agree, you can see elevator control, not flutter. Weight & load on servos at that speed and downward angle was more than servos could handle.
I played it back in slow mo and you can see the elevator moving up and down ...i`d say radio !!!!!!
Radio "lockout", "hit", as plain as day!!
That was hilarious.
The whole horizontal stabilizer looked to flutter until the slow motion showed just both elevators. So that makes me think it was the pilot. Maybe his thumb slipped off the stick or maybe he just messed up.
If your thumbs slip it shouldn't take THAT long to recover... had to be a structural failure of some sorts
@@ShockeWulf190 What are you talking about? The flutter was consistent of digital servo flutter when you slip on the sticks. He was going way to fast to recover if he slipped off the right stick. He flew it to the ground. Controlled crash pilot error. Their excuse was too slow on the down wind. At that speed heading toward the ground. If your right thumb slips you are not going to recover. The guy is a sketchy flier. Too much money not enough skill
I agree. He was all over the place on the ground, grabbing radio from eachother like they were nervous little kids. Was trying to fly it like a jet, not a stol plane. Lack of experience and knowledge is the only issue here. !00% pilot error.
The pilot couldn't even taxi in a straight line. I think he exceeded the tail structural limits or servo limits. The engine sounded like it was starving for fuel.
recommended engine 170 in true Markham fashion lets just install a 200c lol
Nope, It's called a radio "lockout". So very, very obvious too!!
Lord I remember a newbie turning on his radio next to me my Chipmunk dived straight in. Looked very familiar.
The nose still wanted to keep going.."what ground?" Dang, sorry to see such a sweet bird de-feathered like that!
looked like a complete glitch for some reason. note the engine slowed down then picked up again in conjuction with the elevator! what a shame!
You should not fly a Piper so fast.
Bank balance seems to exceed setup and flying skills. I've seen it many times over my 50+ years model flying experience. Only yesterday, a loads-a-money newby did a horrible hand launch of their fancy new EDF jet. Boom, into the ground. Undeterred, they will buy another one for next week! Only passed their proficiency test (BMFA A certificate) a couple of weeks ago and already want to go for their B certificate. God save us.
I hope I'm wrong and it was a dodgy servo or other electronic equipment failure. It's very rare these days, though.
If you don't want keyboard post-mortems, then don't post 😉
It's good to hear from someone who has never crashed a plane.
@@johnnichol9412 Every field has the crusty old farts sitting up under the clubhouse & who nobody has ever seen fly anything, judging everybody else. Clearly Mr. Hutson is "that guy"
True Mayhem Park style! Gotta love it!!
Radio lock out. Hear the throttle? Lost signal.
That’s a possibility. If so then he had his failsafe all messed up.
Lockouts do tend to happen more often from head on flying if no rx is mounted high or low enough
@@thatairplaneguy it’s 100% lockout. Big problem out there for many many years. They see engine power like it was supposed to. It came back for a second and cut it again.
Looks more like when he got it really cooking the elevator fluttered...could also be if he had a gyro the gains were too high and the speed exposed that so it oscillated. I think he cut the throttle himself. Either way the elevator fluttered for sure, and saying it was 100% anything is a stretch without being there. We're all guessing. Lol.
@@ModelAV8RChannel that’s my home flying field. I’ve got people who were there and problems with Jeti lately. I will bet on it being a lock out. You can hear and see it. No way he pulled throttle and back on that quickly. Trust me when I say radio lock outs are a daily issue there. All pretty much on the right side of the field (where it locked out). That was not flutter that was glitching.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Interesting it would only affect the elevator then? I wouldn't think the elevator on that plane would react that fast. Sure did look like flutter but maybe not. Did he have telemetry? Anyway, lock out or whatever it was it sucks regardless...nice plane. I feel for him.
Definitely felt that, ouch, I'm sorry that happened..
Cheap servos on the elevators?
Nope!
@@scotabot7826 what servos were they?
Obviously his wallet is much bigger than his bag of flying skills 😂 anyone recommend a trainer before this guy decided to destroy this $5000 airplane?
I would say 100% radio issue, cutting in and out. The oscillations along with engine cutting in and out are like the link going in and out of failsafe.
Radio…. Throttle and elevator glitching. Sorry to see that happen .
He might have manually reduced the throttle to stop the elevator flutter
Exactly!! So simple, yet you have people on here writting thesis papers as to what happened. Man. it's so funny. These people kill me!!
Looks like elevator flutter to me
That elevator shouldn’t be fluttering up and down like that on final. You can see it clearly on the slow motion.
I think some horiz stab flutter is inherent to all cubs
Seems to be the failsafe kicked in at the last moment... Sorry for the loss...
I feel for you man. I think that elevator locked up.
The pilot flew the plane beyond the limits of the electronics. Elevator servo drew too much power and starved power from the other servos - hence why the engine was intermittently glitching out. I don't think it's the radio or elevator's fault. Pilot flew too fast on a plane meant to be flown slowly.
Any large scale radio install should have power distribution systems capable of producing more than any modern servo would normally draw and they also isolate each servo so any short will only effect that individual channel. They also run off of multiple batteries and receivers that can be isolated/ignored when a fault is detected. This is common practice now, with some radio manufacturers even offering power distribution and redundant features in their flagship receiver packages.
My largest sailplane uses not only two main radio batteries and four independent signal sources/receivers, but I also run all non-critical servo functions through a completely separate power distribution system running on it's own power source. If a retract servo or brake servo locks up and completely drains the secondary power source, my flight controls aren't effected in the least.
If you are flying something this big without multiple redundancies in your radio set up, you are not only a fool, but are endangering all those around you when your large scale model is powered up and/or flying.
Nope Sorry. Don't try and make something that's so easily obvious, in to something difficult!!
Wow! .....the ground just came up and got that thing! .....i suspect massive servo power loading on that RX power buss. On my large models i use a UBEC in parallel with ESC RX power, i beef up the RX power rails and i got a 10,000uf 25V capacitor across the RX power rail.
how do you beef up rx power rails ?
@poochies0316 One way i've used is to carefully run solder across all the positive (center pins) and also the negative pins, thus creating two rails that can handle greater current. I use heavier gauge wire to connect these to a UBEC or a dedicated RX LiFe battery. I may also use a 10000uf 25V capacitor at this point. Long servo lead runs like aileron and elevator I do with heavy duty servo extensions. I may also use a heavy duty "Y" lead out at those servos and plug 4700uf or 10000uf caps out at those points to buffer current demand at those servos to mitigate voltage drops at those points during moments of high current demands. I have this presently on my Bergen Gasser and Turbine helicopters, my 120mm EDF Ultra Viper jet and my new T-28 Trojan.
@@cletusberkeley9441 interesting thx I always wondered how much can those little pins and sockets on plug ends handle current wise thx for the tip
Had something similar when the spark plug cap came loose and did the same thing but luckily it was on the ground
Looks like it went off the air (failsafe). Notice the engine change note too.
the thing i noticed was he wasn't flying it scale he was flying it way too fast and yanking it around
Obviously the elevator fluttered. But I don't think he was going fast enough for an aerodynamic flutter. You could also hear the engine surge. I think radio problem caused elevator to flutter and engine to surge and hence crash.
Elevator failure if he was changing throttle. Seems too close for signal loss. Possible low voltage to rx.
Radio glitch.... you can hear the engine stumble and at the same exact time you see the elevator flutter. Sucks, was it a Spektrum radio?
It's in the video, looks to be jeti
Did you watch the video? Or at least go back to see that it clearly isn't a Spektrum box? You been eating your crayons again haven't you Rob. Spektrum, Spektrum 🤣
@ConservativeUSA67 no its Spekjunk Spekjunk there I fixed it
Been flying spektrum since they came out with the 2.4ghz. Never lost a plane die to my radio gear. Spektrum is great equipment. Just because you can only afford open TX and and it hurts your feelings. 😂
@@Mikeylikesit1968That's what your mother said about you. 😂
if you feel it....go PICK IT UP
Ah damn! So sorry to see such beautiful model destroyed. Seems like elevator failed somehow.
Nope!
@@scotabot7826 You said No, the care to provide what was the cause then?
That was a nice looking plane......WAS.......DARN !
To me it looked like signal loss with the simultaneous engine surge and pitch oscillation just before the carnage. If I've learned one thing, whether it's a $5 or a $10,000 aircraft, they all seem to have an expiration date!
Everyone in here opining about the cause of the crash and I’m over here just hoping the camera person gets some treatment for the epilepsy they appear to be suffering from.
😂- "Elevator Flutter"?
How about the flutter from all the LSD the camera person took before "filming"
5:18 it's just like when the dogs go through the trash. omg i can't stop laughing
Elevators dont flutter that slowly.
Sorry for your loss. Please don’t take it as an offense but it looks like you should not be flying this kind of model. People can get hurt real bad. If it wasn’t for the radio/servo loss you would have crashed it sooner or later. Your flying does not look very coordinated. Don’t be tempted to buy the biggest plane you can get, buy the best one for your skillset.
Elevator fluttering like a leaf 😅
Normally I say ' that will fir into a paper bag' ....not this time.
maybe a shopping trolley !!!!!
It was flying great until it wasn`t.
Maybe dude is a TailHeavy Productions fan. Someone tell him Zack doesn't actually want him to, "Bounce one on" for him. 👍
Only $2K to replace, keep the old one for spare parts. could have been much worse. Sorry that happened to you.
outch, sorryfor your loss, looks to be a locked elevator servo
I said once and I will say it again: flying at Markham Park, better you wear a helmet!
Mayhem Park
You look like a bunch of rookies haha
There's no way the little pilot survived that.
that'll buff right out man
That was NOT too slow. That was either an elevator malfunction OR a pilot thumb Glitch!!! My call would be a thumb glitch!
Servo or linkage failure along with poor mechanical setup, prone to fail.
No feel, no chase on that one!
Yup, flew it right into the ground!!
gonna need a whole ROLL of trash bags for these matchsticks
Here’s my two cents looks like classic elevator flutter. Check your servos and linkages,I think you’ll find stripped gears. When flying giant scale airplanes you’re only as good as your weakest link and it’s good advice to fly it like a scale airplane.
Sorry to see that bro, real sorry for you!!! But it can happen.
Elevator flutter watch it
Looking at the elevator, it could have been mechanical failure or radio failure.
Total elevator flutter due to lack of tork or servo horn, that's not radio issue at all.
That was a $5000 mistake!! Elevator flutter!!! Radio problem!!! Had plenty of airspeed. I have that airplane..solid as a Rock.
I blame the pink shorts.
😂
yeah the elevator looked like it was stuck
Why does a RC Cub need seven people to get it airborne and a real Cub only take one person? I’ve flown the real ones just wondering.
A shame, it was a treat to watch. almost surely elevator failure. May need a bit more stiffening around horn area.
Went into failsafe. You can hear the motor go to reduced throttle and the elevator centers. He was pulling up and then you hear the motor cut and the elevator goes to neutral again. It did it twice in those 1-2 seconds before the impact. Ugh.... sickening feeling.
Ouch that was painful.. Elevator let go.
Such a competent pilot
Not.
says the guy flying from behind his keyboard
@@mam362 The pair showed multiple amateurish things - from the power up whilst he held the rudder, the flying, the take off, motor tuning.
Impossible to tell what went wrong without more info. ? Had it been flown before? Has CG been checked (looked very twitchy /pitching during flight. Was a gyro used - if yes, was it on during whole flight?
I thought the pilot did rush. Forgetting to close the door demonstrated the lack of pre flight checks and wanting it in the air as quick as possible.
Just cuz you can buy it
Don't mean you can fly it
😂
Or should ...
I guess that’s the difference between Builders and Buyers….Builders don’t laugh when a plane goes yard-dart….
Agree. When you spend 2-3 years building a plane, that maiden flight is stressful. ARFs have their advantages. 😉
Yes we do. I just pilled a 104” plane and I laughed. I also had a servo fail and crash my 12ft telemaster earlier this year. I also laughed.
The best advise I was ever given was if you know you’re going to crash then just sit back and enjoy it because everyone else will.
You either laugh or cry......I try to laugh myself
@@thatairplaneguythat’s good advice. I’m coming from quads where a crash usually does nothing, maybe shortens the life of the electronics. Planes are so much more fragile, I think the only thing to do is laugh about it and then enjoy building a new one (and learn from mistakes to try not to make the same one twice).
Oh sorry! I think the CG was too forward, so during the dive the elevator couldn't bring it up whilst the engine power was low. Aerodynamic loading on elevator
You know what they say, the rules at Markham Park are the one's you make up!!! he will be at RC shop tomorrow buying another one... $3500+ in the hole, its another long list of crashes at Markham were you have more money than sense.
Is that a spektrum radio?
Clearly not.
Put on some glasses.................
No of course not
Pilot error
Either a good sense of humor or a good coping skill maybe.
ouchy :( much crazy glue required.
Pilot had no idea how to fly a Carbon Cub or too weak hardware was installed. Full throttle should only be applied on uplines, all other flying should be at half or less throttle. Plenty of throttle and speed before the crash, either flutter, linkage, servo or pilot failure/error.
German: "! Stööööööööruuuung !" ..... splash.... (idk the english shout out for it. Could be something like "disturbance", when the remote control starts to have issues)
No pilot error. You can clearly hear and see, that the receiver has issues interpreting the controls. All axis including engine are starting to flip.
What a pitty...
Exceeded the servo limits, I think. Too low torque servos for the task, or control rods being bent or anything.
Nope!
That sucks, let me guess, spectrum radio?
No not *"spectrum" nor a Spektrum radio. If you want to criticise at least know what it is that you are talking about.
@@johnnichol9412 and how do you know which radio system was being used? Did I touch a nerve? Oh dear cry me a river ducky, and oh no, strike me down because autocorrect changed the spelling. Awe I hope you’re coping ok, that must be so difficult for you…
@@testpilotian3188 The radio is visible in a number of shots, not a Spektrum.
It looks like I am the one that touched a nerve, you are criticising Spektrum yet you can't spell the name. Autocorrect is not correcting Spektrum to spectrum. Cry me a river.
@@johnnichol9412 sorry for not being perfect at spelling, I swear I typed it correctly, I’ll hand myself in for 40 lashes.
Doesnt look to me like the pilot did anything wrong. Note the horiz stab fluttered just before the plane nosed down.
TOO SLOW! How about WAY TOO FAST! It'sa cub, not an F-16.
God,that's awful.I hate seeing things like that.I have been an R/C modeler for about 50 years.I hate crashes.
Something wrong with the elevator, can be seen
Radio problem, just hear the throttle when the elevator flutter.
The engine "checked" just before it took a dive. I think it was loss of signal.
Too slow?
I think he just found out what the VNE on that plane was
the tail failed
probably elevator flutter led to the failure of the stabilizer
Why TF does a cub that size have 200 CC in it? That's overpowered even for a 3D plane. Then you take this clearly incorrect plane and do a full ,power drive towards the ground. This was 100% user error.
You really should try to flare more on landing...
Definitely not to slow down wind!
I’d guess a targeted Chinese EMP attack before “too slow on downwind” !
Not much left to do a postmortem on.
VNE = 3 knots less than that. Play it back in 0.25 speed and you can watch that tail flutter, violently. I believe rapid pitch oscillations were causing the engine issues.
Welp, so much for that..
That was all flutter. It's not a sports plane and he went full power. And caused flutter on the elevator you can clearly see it
Not a Fing Spektrum! Looks like elevator flutter or a death servo.
指ノーコン（爆笑）
The elevator should have been built strongerer.
Looks like linkages or thrust