Today, we'll take a look a knife that's very good, except for the fact that they're slacking in the blade steel department, the CRKT and Ken Onion Slacker.
Seriously. This design is friggin awesome. Them I sae the steel.. Civivi and other budget brands upped their game up in quality and materials and still at a lower price point/quality. They need to cut their manufacturer and move to another factory. This is getting out of hand. 😒
Right? Idk the price on this but the homefront- 60 bucks for nylon washers and 8crapmov steel? Come on. I love CRKTs designs but refuse to pay for garbage quality
Yeah the same exact thing happened to me. Even a good heat treated 8cr would've been way better. The Hvas has the same problem. It's a fantastic design, but the steel is slacking.
Yeah well considering it's now less than $35 on almost every website excluding Amazon and blade ops I went ahead and purchased one anyway since I'm not really a knife snob
People are paying for the R&D costs for the takedown system. Same thing is going on with the deadbolt locking system. They're going to get cheaper and better quality the more the economics of scale kick in. All of that said, D2 for me is a damned good balance point between use and cost. I will say, 8cr13mov is an excellent steel to learn sharpening on. But pick up a Ganzo/Harnds/Various decently made chinese blades. Not because they're the best choice for use. Mainly just for getting better at sharpening skills.
This dude gets the most pocket time out of my 30+ knives. My heaviest user. After messing with it enough, it has perfect action. Drop action is perfect. Love it. Bought my dad one also.
1.4116 can be a pretty decent stainless, but like most kitchen cutlery companies, CRKT has chosen to run it soft. For toughness, or some other bullhockey reason. They should have chosen 14C28N or 154CM and run it at 60 #rockwizzlefoshizzle . They could very easily do it at the current price.
Good review with a very relevant point to make! One suggestion: Unless I missed it, I don't think you covered what the handle was made out of. Found it on Blade HQ, (aluminum), but would have been nice to hear that as part of the review.
Living here in the Portland area, CRKT just seems like the special-needs child in the classroom, everything from the crappy steel regularly chosen to the fact that they're the ONLY local knife company that lacks a local warranty office. I'd LOVE to own some of their designs, but the steel makes them toys. I also get that I'm not their target market...they're looking to the person who just got out of the gas station knife world. They work with designers to make beautiful butter knives.
Dude - you are going to have a heart attack, don't be a hater....but I guess if I lived in the cesspool that is Portland....w/all those fruitloops, I'd be a tad unhappy as well.
I finally subscribed after watching your channel for over a year. I don't know why it took me so long. This was a purchase I would have made, but I'll hold off because of the blade steel. Thank you for your thoughtful review. You made some excellent points.
The backlog is strong with this one. Mentioning this might be redundant but burnt factory edges are a real thing and it takes multiple sharpenings on more abrasive materials than fine rods to take that steel off. Thanks for reminding me of this design :)
I really I think you need to check out the CRKT HVAS. It has the same problematic steel, but has been designed for a much lower price point and may be the epitome of what a field strip knife wants to be. Also has an aggressive hollow grind to help cutting performance.
I really wish that was a full production Home Front. CRKT has amazing designs and so-so materials. It really does keep them from the top of the knife industry. They did the same thing with the deadbolt lock. Didn't harden the pin and used poorly treated Sandvik steel. They could have compared to Cold Steel performance but instead bombed miserably.
Love the video, but I have to disagree with your assessment of it not being “righty tighty”. In reality, it is righty tighty...you are just on the wrong side of the bolt head. If you place the knife front side down, you will have oriented your body correctly to the head side of the bolt instead of the thread side. Since your body is now oriented to the bolt as normal, it will now be a normal righty tighty. Sorry for the nit pick.
I just saw this on BladeHQ for $29.99. I'd never heard of it so i went looking for reviews and, of course you had done a review 2 yrs ago. You're everywhere buddy, and you rock for it. Good on ya and cheers to ya. Now, about this knife, 100% agreed with every word you said, and we see where the price point is currently...enough said. Hell, I'm not sure i wanna pay the 30 bucks for the damned thing really lol. Got some pondering to do i reckon. Thanks again for doing what you do brother, immensely helpful. You, Complex, Beez, the knife center guys, you all make it easy on us beginners. Thanks again man, please keep doing what ya do.
@@DeadEyeRabbit yes PB and Nitrox are readily available in just about any size. Measure and order a few. Don't forget to measure thickness as well as inside and out side diameters.
I really like the blade and handle shape. Its showing on amazon for $65 so the price point is not too bad. With that said with the steel issues and teflon washers it should be in the $45 range not 65. If they bumped it up to the Aus 8 range with a good hardness and put in phosphor bronze washers. $65 to $75 all day long and I would definitely buy one. As always thank you for the great review and your honest thoughts and opinions on the knife. seems like they "slacked" on this knife.... sorry I couldn't resist.
I’ve never bought a CRKT and really wanted to get this one cuz it’s neat until I heard the steel and price. Might as well add a plastic blade and sell it to playskool. Guess I will still have to wait for a CRKT I’d buy.
Just came to nick from Outpost76 who tested 9cr18 from civivi and WOW had a working edge in 200 ft range. The only excuse for price steel is if there is a substantial patent charge for the field stripping technology.and that’s not really an excuse.
I picked this knife up for $50 so I guess I don't have to feel as bad about the lesser steel. At the lower price point your still getting all the great ergo and field strip capability. Would have liked it at $40 though. I think that's the sweet spot for this knife being fairly priced.
I feel like CRKT has stopped innovating and it makes me sad because when they release a new knife I almost know right off the bat it will be underwhelming regardless of the design
Is it possible that the steel choice is an experimental thing? That they might want to see how consumer response is before they field it on other knives?
I have an m390 Dividend that I paid ~$80 for, if this came with a halfway decent steel - D2, 154CM, etc I would be buying one right now. Unfortunately in reviewing CRKT's website it doesnt look like they use anything better than AUS-8. It's 2020 guys, S30V is everywhere, step it up.
1.4116 is a common steel here in Europe for kitchen and hunting knifes. It's a good steel choice when you need a very high corrosion resistance + easy to be sharpened. 1.4116 is dishwasher proof and resists the "liquids" that sees the world when hunting. It has a tendency to roll the edge instead of chipping, which is good for food prep. e.g. when a bone is touched hardly with the edge. It is then very easy to re-sharpen or to be kept sharp by stropping. It's used for user-knifes from low to mid price ranges. Of course it might be the wrong steel choice for the average online buyer to cut down piles of cardboard each week. Knife makers in Europe have a lot of experience with this steel and the heat treat. I wouldn't skip a knife just because of this steel.
I feel like the knife industry is leaving CRKT behind with regards to materials to price point. Hopefully a decision maker at CRKT will see this vid, read the comments and put some fire into the company to catch up with the rest of the industry.
I don’t get what this innovation truly offers that an open /pillar construction knife doesn’t already offer. Seems like the classic solution in search of a problem
I don't come across many CRKT folders that really catch my eye. I love the way the Homefront looks, and I really like this design as well. I would own them both if not for the blade steel. Im not a steel snob whatsoever, but I have experience with these Krupp steels, and they really are lacking when compared to any other steel being offered on budget knives these days. If this was in 8cr, or better yet AUS8, I would buy it in a heartbeat. This is an ongoing issue across the CRKT line, and I am really sick of seeing these beautiful designs go to waste, because they are being outfitted with inferior steels, and cheap synthetic pivots. I dont get it. Wouldnt it be cheaper to use a chinese steel instead of a german one? Give us a break CRKT
Remember when Kershaw used to sell USA made, 14c28n Ken Onion designs with phosphor bronze washers for 1/2 this price? Times sure have changed. What's that? They still do? Wow CRKT, that's pretty embarrassing.
At this point I am reminded that the 25th anniversary homefront is the high end crkt that shouldn’t have been a limited run but was amd as such we will never get thr crkt with field strip technology that we all really want. And if they do it again it will be a limited production run again and snatched up by collectors / scalpers ruining it for 95% of people
I own this same knife. I’ve had it for about 2 months now, the flipper action rarely ever fully deployed without a snap of the wrist. I do not love this knife, however the blade is awesome and cuts great.the things I don’t like... well there is wiggle action of the blade, the detent is super hard and hurts your finger.... and the flipper cuts into your hand, i took the blade off and sanded down the flippers edges because it was so uncomfortable, it made it better but finger still hurts. I was looking forward to an awesome action but... was really disappointed. The action show in this video looks amazing but not so in real life
I agree 100% nice once you reach $80 people are starting to "Expect" a few things and rightfully so especially in today's knife industry. Shit $50 or $60 dollars gets a person a lot of knife elsewhere that may not have the fildstrip technology but your gonna get better Build Quality and a much better steel for less money.
Every readily available crkt field strip knife has an awful bladesteel and that disappoints me so much. The only way to get one that doesn't is that 25th homefront(limited, eww. scalpers, eww.) I want to own a knife with the tech so much but I refuse to buy a bad tool for a cool toy.
If they listened to the knife community and made a few small changes I think models like this one would be extremely popular. Great design and features but the billboarding, steel, teflon, and price make it a no go for me. They did slack on the slacker
If you think. Thats a bad steel then throw away your swiss army knife. Your paying for the ken onion name and the field strip, the steel is just fine for edc
good review mate. dont forget not everyone in the world uses imperial units, so I suggest you may mention grams and mm :) also, being a 420 equivalent steel doesnt justify the price.
The thing is that I fall into both groups of people that would like this knife I rarely use my knife and I love sharpening so I have it and I love it BUT if you aren’t either of those DO NOT GET THIS KNIFE
If crkt would get a better basic steel i would consider them an actual knife company. As is its just 70% off at cabela's discount crap that you feel ripped off even at 70%.
CRKT managed to find a way to sell a thickly-ground Victorinox blade for $80. A human being signed off on that idea. This is why democracy is a mistake.
My experience with CRKT is that, when they (or actually, their contract makers...because CRKT actually does not make anything) try for a harder steel...they end up botching the heat treat. I've had several such issues - the edges are too brittle and develop microchips very easily. This has soured me on the brand. Message to CRKT : STOP cutting corners....and watch the QC of your contract makers more closely. Otherwise (and until I see that happen)... the answer is... NOPE.
@@SamPeabody No idea. Various Chinese contract manufacturers, as I understand it. I don't think they publish that info, though. For me, that doesn't matter. All that matters is that the products (knives) are properly made and perform well. I really have no major complaints about how they make them...just the performance.
I'm surprised the pivot thing just works sans any adjustment. Seems like it would be easy for them to get that not quite right on any given unit and then the owner would have no way to tweak in the way we always do to fine tune the action.
CRKT has some great designs etc but really what they sell is an outsourced product that was made as cheaply as possible. I made the mistake of buying one. Won't be buying another.
Funny part is, I like that steel for its budget rust resistance factor, like a budget h1 or lc200n, but Not for 80 bucks. Keep the steel, fix the price! Or damn it yes do a second run with better steel at this high price and drop the price on the 4116 model... I love my Hvas, and can wave it, so I don't Need the slacker, especially at that price. Too bad though, I kinda dig it!
I totally agree. I wanted this knife (and many other CRKT designs that are great), but they are too expensive for the shit steels they use. I would really get at least 5 CRKT knives if they were more balanced (steel / price).
1.4116 is used for most German kitchen knives. It's OK for savages who put their knives in the dishwasher, but overall it's a very outdated stainless steel. I have an 8€ Cold steel eland in this steel, but I definitely would not buy a 80$ CRKT in 1.4116.
@Skamperlin It's weird kitchen knives don't use the good steel usu. used in pocket knives. Took me a while to find an S35VN santoku knife (North Arm!).
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Typical CRKT, amazing design, but they cut enough corners to make a circle
Amen. People have been telling them this since I started in the knife world about 4 years ago.
Well, that explains why I like their Eat'N Tool. Cut enough corners you make a damn fine spork.
Seriously. This design is friggin awesome. Them I sae the steel..
Civivi and other budget brands upped their game up in quality and materials and still at a lower price point/quality. They need to cut their manufacturer and move to another factory. This is getting out of hand. 😒
Right? Idk the price on this but the homefront- 60 bucks for nylon washers and 8crapmov steel? Come on. I love CRKTs designs but refuse to pay for garbage quality
That is... the best analogy I’ve ever heard!
CRKT needs to listen to what Nick's saying. I was ready to leave this video and make the purchase untill I heard the steel type and the price.
👌👌👌 that's why okc is the best. Everyone asked for an r2 d2 and they listened
Felt the exact same way after finishing this review. As a big CRKT fan this is pretty disappointing.
Yeah the same exact thing happened to me. Even a good heat treated 8cr would've been way better. The Hvas has the same problem. It's a fantastic design, but the steel is slacking.
Yeah well considering it's now less than $35 on almost every website excluding Amazon and blade ops I went ahead and purchased one anyway since I'm not really a knife snob
I just wish CRKT would stop putting so much billboarding on the blade.
I know right! SOG is guilty of that Bs too
With that wall of text there might even be a small print "warranty void if dissassembled" hidden somewhere in the midst =)
I wonder if running the blade on sand paper on that portion would remove the billboarding even though thats probably more effort than its worth
@@speckledjim_ SOG has really turned around. CRKT should take lessons.
@@The4cp have they stopped it with their new gear, I hadn't noticed to be honest, I'll look out for it
Teflon washers and cheap steel for 80 bucks?? Has anyone at crkt even looked at what knives you can buy at that price point?
People are paying for the R&D costs for the takedown system. Same thing is going on with the deadbolt locking system. They're going to get cheaper and better quality the more the economics of scale kick in.
All of that said, D2 for me is a damned good balance point between use and cost. I will say, 8cr13mov is an excellent steel to learn sharpening on. But pick up a Ganzo/Harnds/Various decently made chinese blades. Not because they're the best choice for use. Mainly just for getting better at sharpening skills.
"Onions have layers" would've loved Nick to make that reference
This dude gets the most pocket time out of my 30+ knives. My heaviest user. After messing with it enough, it has perfect action. Drop action is perfect. Love it. Bought my dad one also.
1.4116 can be a pretty decent stainless, but like most kitchen cutlery companies, CRKT has chosen to run it soft. For toughness, or some other bullhockey reason. They should have chosen 14C28N or 154CM and run it at 60 #rockwizzlefoshizzle . They could very easily do it at the current price.
I LOVE 154cm.
Good review with a very relevant point to make!
One suggestion: Unless I missed it, I don't think you covered what the handle was made out of. Found it on Blade HQ, (aluminum), but would have been nice to hear that as part of the review.
Living here in the Portland area, CRKT just seems like the special-needs child in the classroom, everything from the crappy steel regularly chosen to the fact that they're the ONLY local knife company that lacks a local warranty office. I'd LOVE to own some of their designs, but the steel makes them toys. I also get that I'm not their target market...they're looking to the person who just got out of the gas station knife world. They work with designers to make beautiful butter knives.
Dude - you are going to have a heart attack, don't be a hater....but I guess if I lived in the cesspool that is Portland....w/all those fruitloops, I'd be a tad unhappy as well.
He's not being a hater, he's protesting!
One made of titanium with an s35vn blade i would buy in a second.
$280 I betcha
Yeah,probably.
That's what they did EXACTLY with the Home Front. Nick showed $250 i believe. For $150 to $175 as a full production they could be killing it.
I agree.
@@The4cp nicks always a bit low on prices. Except ZT.
Right now the ti home front is 295
I finally subscribed after watching your channel for over a year. I don't know why it took me so long. This was a purchase I would have made, but I'll hold off because of the blade steel. Thank you for your thoughtful review. You made some excellent points.
I like how easy the disasembley is with this knife. Great review 👏
The name lives up to the knife. Crkt was slacking when they made it
The backlog is strong with this one.
Mentioning this might be redundant but burnt factory edges are a real thing and it takes multiple sharpenings on more abrasive materials than fine rods to take that steel off. Thanks for reminding me of this design :)
I really I think you need to check out the CRKT HVAS. It has the same problematic steel, but has been designed for a much lower price point and may be the epitome of what a field strip knife wants to be. Also has an aggressive hollow grind to help cutting performance.
The HVAS slices very well.
Love this knife. Sometimes the front lever jumps and the knife is half opened. An upgraded steel version would be great.
I was looking at that, the lever should not stick out so much.
Yes, big issue for me.
I really wish that was a full production Home Front. CRKT has amazing designs and so-so materials. It really does keep them from the top of the knife industry. They did the same thing with the deadbolt lock. Didn't harden the pin and used poorly treated Sandvik steel. They could have compared to Cold Steel performance but instead bombed miserably.
Wow, the steel snobs are all out today ! I love those clowns
Love the video, but I have to disagree with your assessment of it not being “righty tighty”. In reality, it is righty tighty...you are just on the wrong side of the bolt head. If you place the knife front side down, you will have oriented your body correctly to the head side of the bolt instead of the thread side. Since your body is now oriented to the bolt as normal, it will now be a normal righty tighty. Sorry for the nit pick.
I just saw this on BladeHQ for $29.99. I'd never heard of it so i went looking for reviews and, of course you had done a review 2 yrs ago. You're everywhere buddy, and you rock for it. Good on ya and cheers to ya. Now, about this knife, 100% agreed with every word you said, and we see where the price point is currently...enough said. Hell, I'm not sure i wanna pay the 30 bucks for the damned thing really lol. Got some pondering to do i reckon. Thanks again for doing what you do brother, immensely helpful. You, Complex, Beez, the knife center guys, you all make it easy on us beginners. Thanks again man, please keep doing what ya do.
Unintentional pun: "If you lose a washer, you're screwed"
I would absolutely love if some of the crkt knives were done in lanax steel, would buy instantly bc I would take them on the bwca trips
I like the look of those ergonomics. I have a Ken Onion Eros as a gentleman's carry. Not a fan of Teflon, but that's easily replaced.
What are your feelings on the clip?
Replaced with something other than Teflon?
@@DeadEyeRabbit yes PB and Nitrox are readily available in just about any size. Measure and order a few. Don't forget to measure thickness as well as inside and out side diameters.
The Ontario rat 2 is starting to get a complex because Nick keeps calling it everything except an Ontario rat 2
Really liked the model. Totally agree with you on the bad steel. Great vid as always.
Love it too... its my goto knife for food on the go, because I'm a bit of a dirt-phobe, at least on stuff I put in my mouth.
This is exactly what CRKT does. They completely wreck their knives by unbelievably cutting costs and still charge as if they had not cut costs.
Mine has a ton of blade play. Like more than a z hunter
I really like the blade and handle shape. Its showing on amazon for $65 so the price point is not too bad. With that said with the steel issues and teflon washers it should be in the $45 range not 65. If they bumped it up to the Aus 8 range with a good hardness and put in phosphor bronze washers. $65 to $75 all day long and I would definitely buy one. As always thank you for the great review and your honest thoughts and opinions on the knife. seems like they "slacked" on this knife.... sorry I couldn't resist.
44 minutes up and already 3 thumbs down. You rub some people the wrong way! Or they just dont like ken onion ?
I’ve never bought a CRKT and really wanted to get this one cuz it’s neat until I heard the steel and price. Might as well add a plastic blade and sell it to playskool. Guess I will still have to wait for a CRKT I’d buy.
Just came to nick from Outpost76 who tested 9cr18 from civivi and WOW had a working edge in 200 ft range. The only excuse for price steel is if there is a substantial patent charge for the field stripping technology.and that’s not really an excuse.
Year after after it's the same thing with CRKT. Maybe there will be a limited run Blade HQ exclusive if we all cry enough.
I picked this knife up for $50 so I guess I don't have to feel as bad about the lesser steel. At the lower price point your still getting all the great ergo and field strip capability. Would have liked it at $40 though. I think that's the sweet spot for this knife being fairly priced.
The CRKT Font Explosion featuring the Dull Edge All-Stars
I feel like CRKT has stopped innovating and it makes me sad because when they release a new knife I almost know right off the bat it will be underwhelming regardless of the design
Is it possible that the steel choice is an experimental thing? That they might want to see how consumer response is before they field it on other knives?
No CRKT has been doing this for the last 4 or 5 years. Excellent designs poor materials. It's basically what they do.
I still love CRKT for the best neck knife design ever bar none -- minimalist wharnie. Shame about the putty steel but they stand out for designs
I have an m390 Dividend that I paid ~$80 for, if this came with a halfway decent steel - D2, 154CM, etc I would be buying one right now. Unfortunately in reviewing CRKT's website it doesnt look like they use anything better than AUS-8. It's 2020 guys, S30V is everywhere, step it up.
1.4116 is a common steel here in Europe for kitchen and hunting knifes. It's a good steel choice when you need a very high corrosion resistance + easy to be sharpened. 1.4116 is dishwasher proof and resists the "liquids" that sees the world when hunting. It has a tendency to roll the edge instead of chipping, which is good for food prep. e.g. when a bone is touched hardly with the edge. It is then very easy to re-sharpen or to be kept sharp by stropping. It's used for user-knifes from low to mid price ranges. Of course it might be the wrong steel choice for the average online buyer to cut down piles of cardboard each week.
Knife makers in Europe have a lot of experience with this steel and the heat treat. I wouldn't skip a knife just because of this steel.
I feel like the knife industry is leaving CRKT behind with regards to materials to price point. Hopefully a decision maker at CRKT will see this vid, read the comments and put some fire into the company to catch up with the rest of the industry.
I don’t get what this innovation truly offers that an open /pillar construction knife doesn’t already offer. Seems like the classic solution in search of a problem
Maybe CRKT will start selling an interchangeable blade made of S35VN... But will the knife still be a real Slacker then?
I chuckled out loud when you said there were onions involved in the making of both😁
I don't come across many CRKT folders that really catch my eye. I love the way the Homefront looks, and I really like this design as well. I would own them both if not for the blade steel. Im not a steel snob whatsoever, but I have experience with these Krupp steels, and they really are lacking when compared to any other steel being offered on budget knives these days. If this was in 8cr, or better yet AUS8, I would buy it in a heartbeat. This is an ongoing issue across the CRKT line, and I am really sick of seeing these beautiful designs go to waste, because they are being outfitted with inferior steels, and cheap synthetic pivots. I dont get it. Wouldnt it be cheaper to use a chinese steel instead of a german one? Give us a break CRKT
Remember when Kershaw used to sell USA made, 14c28n Ken Onion designs with phosphor bronze washers for 1/2 this price? Times sure have changed. What's that? They still do? Wow CRKT, that's pretty embarrassing.
At this point I am reminded that the 25th anniversary homefront is the high end crkt that shouldn’t have been a limited run but was amd as such we will never get thr crkt with field strip technology that we all really want.
And if they do it again it will be a limited production run again and snatched up by collectors / scalpers ruining it for 95% of people
That knife looks like a potentially great little version of a bird and trout knife. Slightly better steel or better price and I might pick it up.
Speed safe doesn't open all they way. Maybe 1/4 to 1/2 way Wrist necessary
I have a set of German kitchen knives in that steel, it’s very chippy.
Review the SOG Ultra XR please really interested in that knife and I heard it’s really good since it’s in their new XR line thank you!
Nick is right. $5 more towards the steel and it would be S30V.
I wish you had links in your descriptions.
Can you link to where ever we can buy the things you review? I personally wouldn’t mind a few dollar markup for yourself.
As soon as you said the steel, I bailed out. I can live with everything else for 80$ but a soft steel and a competitive market? No thanks.
Yah, with what you can get for $80 nowadays... smh
meh, its showing $65 on amazon, but it would have to be closer to $45 with that steel and teflon washers for me to buy it.
I love the field stripping and the design. Hopefully an upgrade on the steel and it’ll be a go for me.
I own this same knife. I’ve had it for about 2 months now, the flipper action rarely ever fully deployed without a snap of the wrist. I do not love this knife, however the blade is awesome and cuts great.the things I don’t like... well there is wiggle action of the blade, the detent is super hard and hurts your finger.... and the flipper cuts into your hand, i took the blade off and sanded down the flippers edges because it was so uncomfortable, it made it better but finger still hurts. I was looking forward to an awesome action but... was really disappointed. The action show in this video looks amazing but not so in real life
Wow $80...........
I agree 100% nice once you reach $80 people are starting to "Expect" a few things and rightfully so especially in today's knife industry. Shit $50 or $60 dollars gets a person a lot of knife elsewhere that may not have the fildstrip technology but your gonna get better Build Quality and a much better steel for less money.
Reliable flipper on teflon. Nice.
Cricket makes some amazing knives if they would just AMP UP the materials & a bit on QC , Let’s all think positive!!!
What's cricket ?!?
Did you ever do a review of the crkt rakiri?
great looking knife and love the name 🤣 the field strip is awesome. great video thanks. have a great day sir
Every readily available crkt field strip knife has an awful bladesteel and that disappoints me so much. The only way to get one that doesn't is that 25th homefront(limited, eww. scalpers, eww.) I want to own a knife with the tech so much but I refuse to buy a bad tool for a cool toy.
It's still such a shame CRKT makes great knives, on a budget, but manage to screw them up with horrible steel :(
If they listened to the knife community and made a few small changes I think models like this one would be extremely popular. Great design and features but the billboarding, steel, teflon, and price make it a no go for me. They did slack on the slacker
Nice video Nick
Would it be possible to replace the Teflon washers with bronze ones?
I think the quick way to say that explanation about the backwards disassembly screw was it's backwards by design. 👊😎
If you think. Thats a bad steel then throw away your swiss army knife. Your paying for the ken onion name and the field strip, the steel is just fine for edc
I have not been getting notified of your new posts for about 2 weeks now
Agree! The steel selection is it's downfall. Great profile and size.
Ken Onion has no left handed friends.
good review mate. dont forget not everyone in the world uses imperial units, so I suggest you may mention grams and mm :) also, being a 420 equivalent steel doesnt justify the price.
Imagine ken onion and crk collab on a fieldstrip sebby?
CRKT and CRK nearly did a collaboration sebenza... Did not end well
That's steel you make aluminum foil from... Not a knife blade.
I think they use aluminum for that...
The thing is that I fall into both groups of people that would like this knife I rarely use my knife and I love sharpening so I have it and I love it BUT if you aren’t either of those DO NOT GET THIS KNIFE
Its a great 30$ knife
If it was aluminum with a 14c28n blade I would definitely pay 80 for it
Seems like a great blade to throw the steel away for and make a utility blade or scalpel blade holder for.
Maybe should be around 50 bucks. Nice review 😀
45 and I would buy one.
I just picked one up for $37.
If crkt would get a better basic steel i would consider them an actual knife company. As is its just 70% off at cabela's discount crap that you feel ripped off even at 70%.
CRKT managed to find a way to sell a thickly-ground Victorinox blade for $80.
A human being signed off on that idea.
This is why democracy is a mistake.
Cold steel did something similar but at least those hold god knows how many Lynn Thompsons in a hang test
Please tell Valiant Thor that I for one welcome our new Venusian overlords...
If people buy it willingly then it wasn’t a bad idea.
This is why democracy needs capitalism.
That’s pretty cool
Damn shazzman I was just about to get the visa out untill you mentioned the steel, what a shame, would've been a great first flipper.
My experience with CRKT is that, when they (or actually, their contract makers...because CRKT actually does not make anything) try for a harder steel...they end up botching the heat treat. I've had several such issues - the edges are too brittle and develop microchips very easily. This has soured me on the brand. Message to CRKT : STOP cutting corners....and watch the QC of your contract makers more closely. Otherwise (and until I see that happen)... the answer is... NOPE.
Who makes their knives, if they don’t? I’ve got a few CRKT knives and I’d be curious to know who made them.
@@SamPeabody No idea. Various Chinese contract manufacturers, as I understand it. I don't think they publish that info, though. For me, that doesn't matter. All that matters is that the products (knives) are properly made and perform well. I really have no major complaints about how they make them...just the performance.
I'm surprised the pivot thing just works sans any adjustment. Seems like it would be easy for them to get that not quite right on any given unit and then the owner would have no way to tweak in the way we always do to fine tune the action.
CRKT has some great designs etc but really what they sell is an outsourced product that was made as cheaply as possible. I made the mistake of buying one. Won't be buying another.
Good review. Helps if you talk a bit slower.
I know its an old knife but plzz do a review on the WE knife NITIDA
Yeah, blade steel sounds like twenty bucks or less!
Crkt has the coolest ideas but does them so badly use real washers and use a real steal and your knives would actually sell
Field strip capability is pretty genius.
Just checked this Review out
Dude Slow down..
Nice design but poorly executed as usual 🙄🙄
Funny part is, I like that steel for its budget rust resistance factor, like a budget h1 or lc200n, but Not for 80 bucks. Keep the steel, fix the price! Or damn it yes do a second run with better steel at this high price and drop the price on the 4116 model... I love my Hvas, and can wave it, so I don't Need the slacker, especially at that price. Too bad though, I kinda dig it!
Imagine 3rd party blade for this platform with great steel and super thin slicy edge for another 30-40 $... and it comes with bronze washers....
I totally agree. I wanted this knife (and many other CRKT designs that are great), but they are too expensive for the shit steels they use.
I would really get at least 5 CRKT knives if they were more balanced (steel / price).
1.4116 is used for most German kitchen knives. It's OK for savages who put their knives in the dishwasher, but overall it's a very outdated stainless steel. I have an 8€ Cold steel eland in this steel, but I definitely would not buy a 80$ CRKT in 1.4116.
@Skamperlin Yes, but the folding knife market seems far more competetive in that regard.
@Skamperlin It's weird kitchen knives don't use the good steel usu. used in pocket knives. Took me a while to find an S35VN santoku knife (North Arm!).
4116 isn't tough either. There's essentially nothing to like about it.