I would actually disagree with this. I am currently using 11 standard, and upgrading to 12 standard is a massive upgrade for just $120! This upgrade adds tons of previous Suite-exclusive features, and more than triples the sound library size compared to 11 standard. I do agree the change from 11 to 12 suite isn’t worth it, but for intro and standard it is definitely worth the dirt-cheap upgrade price.
Regarding "strumming off the grit": the grey vertical line in the middle of the strumming window represents the grit /starting point for the strumming. If you move those dots to the left of the grey middle line of course it´s going to be "before the grit".
Yes I get that. That leaves you with half a window to draw in your strum though, which is trash imo. That free Sculptor tool makes Ableton's strum look like a childs toy
@@FearlessBeatzMusic I've been using Live since version 1, and version 12 really brings Live to a very mature level imo. There are so many nice big and small new features and improvements I can't list them all. But: flexible interface views, arrangement view and mixer in one window, improvements in mixer, sound wave zoom, incredibly better search tools (the match tool is unbelievably good!), quantize improvements (real time quantize!!), latency fix (finally), "A" key for on the fly automations (very cool), MPE improvements, independent zoom for different displays (I use my Macbook monitor when I mix and an external display, so this comes really handy), being able to import return tracks and main channel plugins from other projects (I use this feature a lot!), improvement to return tracks handling (copy, reorder, duplicate etc.). Even the sample rate displayed on the top corner for me is useful, because from time to time I'd have to navigate to setting to check if I was using the desired sample rate. I mean, I didn't even mention all the hundreds of midi editing and creation improvements. I could go on and on about big and small improvements. The only things I really regret not having which I use a lot in Logic is ARA support and clip gain right on the clip. Not having these still is a real bummer. Group freeze and bounce would be great too, but I guess code wise it must be challenging, otherwise they would have done it by now (I think specifically of sends on tracks, how to mange these behind the scene once the group is frozen). I think not even Logic, which has pretty much any mixing feature you can think of, has this.
The cross in the strum tool is a coordinate system. Middle is 0%, meaning current beat, 100% to the right is exactly on the next beat and -100% to the left is on the previous beat. To start the strum at the current beat, you need to set the low point to 0%.
As an Ableton user I definitely think this update was not worth the money, however I wanted some of the features. I definitely think some of the new things they added need to be polished a little. Also with the strum, if you leave the top dot or bottom dot at the middle line they will all stay on the grid, I think, forgive me if I’m wrong.
I've been wondering should i get 12 for awhile and just can't pull the trigger. At this point i think 11 is the best version thus far. I'll stay here and partner it with my MPC One. Tired of cash grabs and new this and new that anyway. Time to just make MUSIC!!
Looks completely worthy for my workflow as a generative audio visual artist. All those new MIDI features are mindblowing. I use Ableton 11 at the moment but I will get Ableton 12 soon, I might change my mind after purchase, hahaha. Thank you for the video.
In Strum your bottom node for the tension bar is too far to the left which is why your notes are starting before the clip. Just move the top node to the right and don't mess with the bottom one.
Expensive upgrade, but the M4L integration into the piano-roll/midi-editor is a game-changer... Love the fact we finally got 'chance group' functions too (although it would be much better if you could assign a note to more then one group at a time). Roar is bad-ass as well.
It works bro just tested it. Right click on "User Library" and click show in finder. And then make a new folder or add sounds and they will pop up after Ableton analyzes them
I feel like every artists out there should make it a law to them selves that Sample library is something you gather over the years and experiences, your sound represents you so do your homework !
One thing to add though, I absolutely despise what they've done with the Browser, I had everything in nice folders separated by Generators and Effects etc. now it's all thrown together into a muddy slop and it really rubs me up the wrong way, I might blame my autism and claim discrimination in hopes they change it. Lmfao.
This is a weird take, 12 is amazing but 12.1 beta 13 is blowing my mind. To each their own I guess but having owned every daw over the years Ableton is on fire right now. They release a new beta version like every week as well. 12.1 beta is a whole new version almost and even on 12 the new Max features and similarity search are worth the upgrade.
Dude fearless, some thoughts. Interesting and good, video. A bit untimely though? It's been out for some time. Better late... You make a tremendous point, dude. Trying to wrap my head around the features. They do seem completely random or many do not part of some thematic "whole upgrade." Unrelated to eatch other as you say. Also, you're fair - I do care about tunings, you don't, so to each his/her own. Alas, I'm not yet sold on it, either.
Some of these features seemed pretty cool at first, but after using them for awhile they didnt seem that useful for my flow. Everyones workflow is different though
The audio quantize algorithm that was their signature feature still can’t quantize an old disco record without a half hour of work, while most DJ software can do it seamlessly. Will all this focus on all these other additions it would’ve been nice if they could’ve perfected what it is they where none for.
Making dozens of videos hyping up features and then dumping on them makes it obvious that you wanted to appeal to people who use Ableton, and now you're dumping on it for the sake of appealing to the other demographic, the people who aren't sold on it. Pretty much makes you come off as unreliable AF. Pandering.
Ah yes... I upgraded, because I was on the beta and I am a spreadsheet nerd, so Live gang and Bitwig gang here. Ableton though - not listening to beta testers, since 8. LOL Would have been nice to get more choices in Collections. My Live is crashing much less than in 11. I love the Scale stuff, in Live 12.
@@FearlessBeatzMusic I have a spreadsheet for all the damn places I have to update plugins and there has probably been a good 100+ recent updates throughout them... most likely more. Again - spreadsheet nerd here. haha
me personally, i dont have use for majority of the features. i like that you can use session and arrangement at the same time but im not gonna spend 200 for that feature only lol
The modernization process has been slow for them. They know what people want, but seem hesitant to add the features that people have been asking for. It’s weird to see them struggling with things that have been around for a decade.
I can make it short: This pile of shit is crashing hard on a regular basis ... like daily. This is not professional. Fun to work with but if you loose all returns and master bus every time ... then ... Logic conclusions must follow.
This is to funny to me, I switched to Ableton 12 a month ago after 5 years of using FL. I won't ever go back to me it's suia superior DAW I many aspects
I would actually disagree with this. I am currently using 11 standard, and upgrading to 12 standard is a massive upgrade for just $120! This upgrade adds tons of previous Suite-exclusive features, and more than triples the sound library size compared to 11 standard. I do agree the change from 11 to 12 suite isn’t worth it, but for intro and standard it is definitely worth the dirt-cheap upgrade price.
Nice thats a good price! With the new updates in 12.1, I 100% agree with you th-cam.com/video/Al_tDRfPPsU/w-d-xo.html
Regarding "strumming off the grit": the grey vertical line in the middle of the strumming window represents the grit /starting point for the strumming. If you move those dots to the left of the grey middle line of course it´s going to be "before the grit".
Yes I get that. That leaves you with half a window to draw in your strum though, which is trash imo. That free Sculptor tool makes Ableton's strum look like a childs toy
@@FearlessBeatzMusic Yeah, Sculptor is strumming on steroids for sure!
Ableton Live 12 is amazing
Too late already bought it last week 🙄
lol Same here brotha 😂
@@LowKeyProductionz it's a stupid suggestion anyway
@@foljs5858 But to, He has a video saying "Ableton 12 HUGE upgrade, Ableton listened to us.
So its kinda ???
Absolutely love it! Excellent update imo.
Favorite feature(s)?
@@FearlessBeatzMusic I've been using Live since version 1, and version 12 really brings Live to a very mature level imo. There are so many nice big and small new features and improvements I can't list them all. But: flexible interface views, arrangement view and mixer in one window, improvements in mixer, sound wave zoom, incredibly better search tools (the match tool is unbelievably good!), quantize improvements (real time quantize!!), latency fix (finally), "A" key for on the fly automations (very cool), MPE improvements, independent zoom for different displays (I use my Macbook monitor when I mix and an external display, so this comes really handy), being able to import return tracks and main channel plugins from other projects (I use this feature a lot!), improvement to return tracks handling (copy, reorder, duplicate etc.). Even the sample rate displayed on the top corner for me is useful, because from time to time I'd have to navigate to setting to check if I was using the desired sample rate. I mean, I didn't even mention all the hundreds of midi editing and creation improvements. I could go on and on about big and small improvements. The only things I really regret not having which I use a lot in Logic is ARA support and clip gain right on the clip. Not having these still is a real bummer. Group freeze and bounce would be great too, but I guess code wise it must be challenging, otherwise they would have done it by now (I think specifically of sends on tracks, how to mange these behind the scene once the group is frozen). I think not even Logic, which has pretty much any mixing feature you can think of, has this.
The cross in the strum tool is a coordinate system. Middle is 0%, meaning current beat, 100% to the right is exactly on the next beat and -100% to the left is on the previous beat. To start the strum at the current beat, you need to set the low point to 0%.
Strum is good you just use it wrong… Just don’t move the botes behind the start point??
They fixed the latency issue. Huge upgrade for that alone. Thanks for the sculpting tool rec. Hope I can find it...
I got you: th-cam.com/video/CYm7hgEve_w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wUQzPT5MADE-kcJ_
the workflow and mixer features alone are worth their weight in gold - not to mention Roar
Do you ever get keys to hand out? I’ve been stuck with lite for the past year and can’t justify paying for suite yet 😂
As an Ableton user I definitely think this update was not worth the money, however I wanted some of the features. I definitely think some of the new things they added need to be polished a little. Also with the strum, if you leave the top dot or bottom dot at the middle line they will all stay on the grid, I think, forgive me if I’m wrong.
You´re right regarding the strumming. It´ll stay on the grit that way.
I've been wondering should i get 12 for awhile and just can't pull the trigger. At this point i think 11 is the best version thus far. I'll stay here and partner it with my MPC One. Tired of cash grabs and new this and new that anyway. Time to just make MUSIC!!
keep making great vids my guy!
Thanks g
Looks completely worthy for my workflow as a generative audio visual artist. All those new MIDI features are mindblowing. I use Ableton 11 at the moment but I will get Ableton 12 soon, I might change my mind after purchase, hahaha. Thank you for the video.
In Strum your bottom node for the tension bar is too far to the left which is why your notes are starting before the clip. Just move the top node to the right and don't mess with the bottom one.
That just leave you with half a window to define your strum curve. Not well thought out. Check out that Sculptor tool
Scale mode is a useful function, but it would have been better if Live could detect the key of audio clips and scale them too
ableton live 12 is not compatible with 3rd gen CPU while i had no problem on ableton live 11
Expensive upgrade, but the M4L integration into the piano-roll/midi-editor is a game-changer... Love the fact we finally got 'chance group' functions too (although it would be much better if you could assign a note to more then one group at a time). Roar is bad-ass as well.
The fact that sandboxing isn't there is a fucking crime.
I wonder if there is a m4l solution?
Can i please have the license for ableton live 12 suite if anyone has an extra laying around
I found out that you can't update your user browser where you store your own personal sounds in ableton live 12
If you scroll down to the bottom of "places" there should be a button that says "add folder" that you can use to populate it.
Even if you find that folder on your computer and add stuff to it, it still wont work?
It works bro just tested it. Right click on "User Library" and click show in finder. And then make a new folder or add sounds and they will pop up after Ableton analyzes them
@@FearlessBeatzMusic exactly, I have my own folder where I stored my sound but still won't update my new sounds
@@FearlessBeatzMusicCan you send me a video on how to fix the browser folder update?, bro
I am def not upgrading. Ill wait until 13 when they actually improve the software.
Ableton user here 🔊🚶🏾♂️
I feel like every artists out there should make it a law to them selves that Sample library is something you gather over the years and experiences, your sound represents you so do your homework !
Jokes on you, I waited until it was announced and upgraded to 11 and got the upgrade to 12 for free, so I mean, technically I didn't buy it
One thing to add though, I absolutely despise what they've done with the Browser, I had everything in nice folders separated by Generators and Effects etc. now it's all thrown together into a muddy slop and it really rubs me up the wrong way, I might blame my autism and claim discrimination in hopes they change it. Lmfao.
Nice! I'm glad they gave everyone that free upgrade
Hey Fearless where can I get that free Strumming tool since I don’t plan on upgrading to 12??
Here is the video I made a few months ago th-cam.com/video/CYm7hgEve_w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wUQzPT5MADE-kcJ_
VSTZTORRENTZ has everything you need.
This is a weird take, 12 is amazing but 12.1 beta 13 is blowing my mind. To each their own I guess but having owned every daw over the years Ableton is on fire right now. They release a new beta version like every week as well. 12.1 beta is a whole new version almost and even on 12 the new Max features and similarity search are worth the upgrade.
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Big ups man, I got it free with 11 tho
Dude fearless, some thoughts.
Interesting and good, video. A bit untimely though? It's been out for some time. Better late...
You make a tremendous point, dude. Trying to wrap my head around the features. They do seem completely random or many do not part of some thematic "whole upgrade." Unrelated to eatch other as you say.
Also, you're fair - I do care about tunings, you don't, so to each his/her own. Alas, I'm not yet sold on it, either.
Crazy cause you hyped it up so much when it dropped 😂😂😂
lmfao fr, I bought it bc of his videos
Some of these features seemed pretty cool at first, but after using them for awhile they didnt seem that useful for my flow. Everyones workflow is different though
The audio quantize algorithm that was their signature feature still can’t quantize an old disco record without a half hour of work, while most DJ software can do it seamlessly. Will all this focus on all these other additions it would’ve been nice if they could’ve perfected what it is they where none for.
Making dozens of videos hyping up features and then dumping on them makes it obvious that you wanted to appeal to people who use Ableton, and now you're dumping on it for the sake of appealing to the other demographic, the people who aren't sold on it. Pretty much makes you come off as unreliable AF. Pandering.
"idon't know if i am going to use this features in the future" but for now there a not worth it 🙂
Ah yes... I upgraded, because I was on the beta and I am a spreadsheet nerd, so Live gang and Bitwig gang here. Ableton though - not listening to beta testers, since 8. LOL Would have been nice to get more choices in Collections. My Live is crashing much less than in 11. I love the Scale stuff, in Live 12.
I keep having projects crash its been annoying!
@@FearlessBeatzMusic check your plugins for any updates. There has been a lot of plugins that have recently released updates.
@@VentureNW yup I had to update my valhalla reverbs
@@FearlessBeatzMusic I have a spreadsheet for all the damn places I have to update plugins and there has probably been a good 100+ recent updates throughout them... most likely more. Again - spreadsheet nerd here. haha
@@VentureNW nerd or not that's super smart! I need to get on that
Ableton is the best DAW but it just lacks features to the point where I have to use logic all the time.
The update ist free from 11-12 😊 idk why people pay i kept 11 and i got 12
Please tell me more...... Ableton website says they're charging for 11>12 upgrades.
@@airfixx_8952 i got my Update for free i owned 11 it's in the Website Log in your Account
@@airfixx_8952 there was a deal for awhile but it’s no longer available. but if you buy 12 you can download downgraded versions.
Can you do a ghost note tutorial for 12😊😊😊
Can you be more specific? Ghost notes are just notes that have low velocity or volume
Just record the midi live and then tidy them up a bit after if necessary.......
me personally, i dont have use for majority of the features. i like that you can use session and arrangement at the same time but im not gonna spend 200 for that feature only lol
Thats what I'm saying
The modernization process has been slow for them. They know what people want, but seem hesitant to add the features that people have been asking for. It’s weird to see them struggling with things that have been around for a decade.
Ya some of those community complaints need to be addressed now especially the project crash stuff. Super annoying! But I still love Ableton
The midi changes alone is worth
Roar Is epic
My comment on another post was shown in this video 😂👍 I left FL and joined the fruity side. I never bought the update, I was tired of ableton.
Thank you. I’m skipping this update
live 11 is fine, live 10 was my fav
LOL Ableton 12 and 12.1 is a superpower bro. Completely disagree
this video is right on the dot
just auto pitch , roar , just for that, worth the upgrade ,
I can make it short:
This pile of shit is crashing hard on a regular basis ... like daily.
This is not professional.
Fun to work with but if you loose all returns and master bus every time ... then ... Logic conclusions must follow.
To be totally honest I got FL last black friday For the simple fact that it costs the same amount as the new update
insanity
@@FearlessBeatzMusic
The stem separation got me
I left for FL too lol I do own live 10 suite and I do use it so there’s that XD
Yah weak update but can’t go back to 11 😊such is life
It’s true not worth the upgrade I did the free trial for 30 days
This is to funny to me, I switched to Ableton 12 a month ago after 5 years of using FL. I won't ever go back to me it's suia superior DAW I many aspects
In so many way! Welcome to the Ableton gang!
Did he say you could open FL as a vst in ableton 😂😂😂
Yes, as a Rewire Plug-in - since decades. Means, you can audition or record your Audio from FL right inside Live.
@@gthcstudios how that doesn't make sense
you saved some cash!
Could be worse... You could be using propellerheads reason... They haven't had a good update in about 7 years...
please no!
You can run it with Mac Intel … so that’s not true !
Facts