The 3 primordial girls are fan favorites because they are proper weebs doing their reading, unlike someone (no hard feelings, you SHOULD read the novels)
I agree with the placement of most of your rankings except one. I would switch Fount of Wisdom and Wielder of Magic because while Wielder of Magic is powerful, I don’t think it has staying power as it is an orange meta, of which there’s only been 3 or 4 in the entire game’s history, and fount of wisdom has so much more usage outside of its meta since the support units have powerful buffs that are not too specific. I would like to get albis as I still need an ex pierce giving unit and I couldn’t get aqua and kazuma, as I regret since they are still useful and might never come again, unless they have a collab redux banner during the idol master collab next month, but who knows. Wielder of magic hasn’t been here that long and uses an orb that doesnt get much usage, so I would honestly swap it with FoW meta in the rankings. Other than that I agree with your placements in the rankings, and it’s nice to see that it’s not just the stacking metas at the top, we’ve got a good blend of unusual teams, which is how the game should be. Now to see how the invincibility mechanic in the collab will shake things up, as it’s likely a green meta now.
Joker I remember that first Anni list and how at the beginning I was like yup water 2.0 100%.. the power creep is real! My one ranking which I don’t even really disagree with but just makes me disappointed is the Goddess of Destiny units, because I don’t have Treyni and only have Dark Millim from Koban I use them as my general Valor Cup team.. but being generally good doesn’t really mean much when the rest of the list hits how it does so it is what it is.. Water 2.0.. to Vengeance.. I look forward to this list next year!!
Mr. Joker sir, I will in fact argue against vengeance being the best team in the game. "Best team" implies that the group as a whole is amazing and works wonders together. this isn't true. vengeance is absolutely the most overpowered stacking damage system in the game, but as far as full teams go it's synergy isn't there. I would say that individually, vengeance is the best without question. Youm, Raphael, and Velzard work wonders. I have vengeance Veldora (I needed to burn koban tickets) and I never use him on the team cause he's doing nothing for it. If we're talking the FULL META team, everything included than I'd say most stacking teams here have vengeance beat out in terms of team synergy. In conclusion, I believe that vengeance Youm, Raphael and Velzard are the best standalone units, as their full meta as a whole fell off the moment Shuna released. Those three are by far the best, but not when considering a meta as a whole. but that's just what I think
So which team would you take over vengeance? None, and that's the point. The video is about ranking the viability of meta teams not about ranking full team synergy.
@@spike3021 ""Best team" implies that the group as a whole is amazing and works wonders together." I'm saying that the vengeance team overall sucks compared to more synergized teams like 1.5 or 2nd anni. Vengeance is still by far the most powerful, and I never denied that. Raph, Youm and Vel are god tier units, without a doubt. But the overall viability of the team as a whole is worse in comparison to other metas. there's no viability in a meta team when half the team isn't viable by comparison
@@jayplasma3374 So you're not actually arguing against the ranking given the criteria stated in the video. You're trying to push a different definition of best team and viability. Ok agree to disagree on the definitions then.
@@spike3021 My definition of best team was what I said before. the full team, and how well it works as one. if it's not the full meta making the best team, then it's not really the best team, but rather the best unit/units. That's what I'm saying. Also I wrote that original comment at like 1 or 2 am after I watched the full video, when I was super tired and getting ready for bed so idr wtf he said the criteria was for best team lol. Remembering something from half an hour ago at the time was just impossible for me
I would argue that Fhrey's team can go a lot higher. Fhrey, Hero2.0, Hero and shizu have been doing wonders for me in valor cup. Using it as a burst team I reliably made it into the top 50 with other teams struggeling due to the shitty starting hands recently (I don't have a triple orb stealer). On top she's the only ex prot of her kind, while diablo, light3.0,lumi,megmuru,velzard are pretty much the same kind. + : stacking shizus attack/skill points on a stage with no planned out nuke can be fun.
What would you recommend me pull on? Should I just wait for a meta since it's a niche idol collab atm? I also missed out on the 1st banner for 2nd anniversary as well. Smh 🤦
Great vid as usual! I was wondering, as someone who returned to the game but kinda late for anni, I missed my chance to farm for gems on the Luminous, Violet, and Rimuru banner, who would you recommend to use as Protection character in the team? I did not get Rimuru (Or Luminous anda can't get them before it ends) but I do have Blanc, Jaune and both Violets. Trying out this team since I won't be able to pull more for a while and only have very old units. (EDIT: Of the newer ones I got that are not release units are Light Shuna, Dark Veldora, Towa, the event Satoru and that's about it, but if there's one I can choose with the protection tickets, I'd appreciate it) Thanks!!
If you have the Light Shuna protector, shes generic enough to run this team. You just need to add the Light Raphael to the team for the stun and pierce buffs instead of the old violet.
@@IcecoldjokerX20A Thank you. Yes, that's kinda what I've been running but didn't know if it was good. Still getting used to all the new stuff. Keep up the good work, man! And thanks again
Well vengeance team is something that most people will underestimate the meta since (no offense) some people prefer brute force instead of strategically using skills and hit them on turn 4 with the vengeance stacks
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HELL YEAH Vengeance top tier LETS GOO! 😎😎
Technically Kazuma not having typically awesome main character powers is the game being lore faithful 😂
The 3 primordial girls are fan favorites because they are proper weebs doing their reading, unlike someone (no hard feelings, you SHOULD read the novels)
I agree with the placement of most of your rankings except one. I would switch Fount of Wisdom and Wielder of Magic because while Wielder of Magic is powerful, I don’t think it has staying power as it is an orange meta, of which there’s only been 3 or 4 in the entire game’s history, and fount of wisdom has so much more usage outside of its meta since the support units have powerful buffs that are not too specific.
I would like to get albis as I still need an ex pierce giving unit and I couldn’t get aqua and kazuma, as I regret since they are still useful and might never come again, unless they have a collab redux banner during the idol master collab next month, but who knows.
Wielder of magic hasn’t been here that long and uses an orb that doesnt get much usage, so I would honestly swap it with FoW meta in the rankings.
Other than that I agree with your placements in the rankings, and it’s nice to see that it’s not just the stacking metas at the top, we’ve got a good blend of unusual teams, which is how the game should be. Now to see how the invincibility mechanic in the collab will shake things up, as it’s likely a green meta now.
that feeling when you have the entire konosuba team but you haven't dropped the rimuru
Joker I remember that first Anni list and how at the beginning I was like yup water 2.0 100%.. the power creep is real! My one ranking which I don’t even really disagree with but just makes me disappointed is the Goddess of Destiny units, because I don’t have Treyni and only have Dark Millim from Koban I use them as my general Valor Cup team.. but being generally good doesn’t really mean much when the rest of the list hits how it does so it is what it is..
Water 2.0.. to Vengeance.. I look forward to this list next year!!
Mr. Joker sir, I will in fact argue against vengeance being the best team in the game. "Best team" implies that the group as a whole is amazing and works wonders together. this isn't true. vengeance is absolutely the most overpowered stacking damage system in the game, but as far as full teams go it's synergy isn't there. I would say that individually, vengeance is the best without question. Youm, Raphael, and Velzard work wonders. I have vengeance Veldora (I needed to burn koban tickets) and I never use him on the team cause he's doing nothing for it. If we're talking the FULL META team, everything included than I'd say most stacking teams here have vengeance beat out in terms of team synergy. In conclusion, I believe that vengeance Youm, Raphael and Velzard are the best standalone units, as their full meta as a whole fell off the moment Shuna released. Those three are by far the best, but not when considering a meta as a whole. but that's just what I think
So which team would you take over vengeance? None, and that's the point. The video is about ranking the viability of meta teams not about ranking full team synergy.
@@spike3021 ""Best team" implies that the group as a whole is amazing and works wonders together."
I'm saying that the vengeance team overall sucks compared to more synergized teams like 1.5 or 2nd anni. Vengeance is still by far the most powerful, and I never denied that. Raph, Youm and Vel are god tier units, without a doubt. But the overall viability of the team as a whole is worse in comparison to other metas. there's no viability in a meta team when half the team isn't viable by comparison
@@jayplasma3374 So you're not actually arguing against the ranking given the criteria stated in the video. You're trying to push a different definition of best team and viability. Ok agree to disagree on the definitions then.
@@spike3021 My definition of best team was what I said before. the full team, and how well it works as one. if it's not the full meta making the best team, then it's not really the best team, but rather the best unit/units. That's what I'm saying.
Also I wrote that original comment at like 1 or 2 am after I watched the full video, when I was super tired and getting ready for bed so idr wtf he said the criteria was for best team lol. Remembering something from half an hour ago at the time was just impossible for me
I would argue that Fhrey's team can go a lot higher. Fhrey, Hero2.0, Hero and shizu have been doing wonders for me in valor cup. Using it as a burst team I reliably made it into the top 50 with other teams struggeling due to the shitty starting hands recently (I don't have a triple orb stealer). On top she's the only ex prot of her kind, while diablo, light3.0,lumi,megmuru,velzard are pretty much the same kind. + : stacking shizus attack/skill points on a stage with no planned out nuke can be fun.
frey should be under treyni just for that personality
Fount of Wisdom luminous and masked heroes is good addition to team though for the fount of wisdom charater unit
Keep stay in primordial meta👍😭👍. Thanks joker
I use Frey a lot in tower challenge runs, so imo she should be higher
What would you recommend me pull on? Should I just wait for a meta since it's a niche idol collab atm? I also missed out on the 1st banner for 2nd anniversary as well. Smh 🤦
If you can wait 23 days for the next meta, do that.
@IcecoldjokerX20A alright that's probably what I'll do then. Feels like I joined up at the wrong time. Hopefully the next meta is a good one.
Great vid as usual! I was wondering, as someone who returned to the game but kinda late for anni, I missed my chance to farm for gems on the Luminous, Violet, and Rimuru banner, who would you recommend to use as Protection character in the team? I did not get Rimuru (Or Luminous anda can't get them before it ends) but I do have Blanc, Jaune and both Violets. Trying out this team since I won't be able to pull more for a while and only have very old units. (EDIT: Of the newer ones I got that are not release units are Light Shuna, Dark Veldora, Towa, the event Satoru and that's about it, but if there's one I can choose with the protection tickets, I'd appreciate it)
Thanks!!
If you have the Light Shuna protector, shes generic enough to run this team. You just need to add the Light Raphael to the team for the stun and pierce buffs instead of the old violet.
@@IcecoldjokerX20A Thank you. Yes, that's kinda what I've been running but didn't know if it was good. Still getting used to all the new stuff. Keep up the good work, man! And thanks again
Vengeance is the best😊👍
I’m missing Jaune and Rimuru from the current meta; which should I go for?
none if thats an option, they arent needed, just cool to have
I have wierd situation. I have 470 k ep and cant win battle with 348 k do you have Idea what Im doing wrong?
Difficult to figure out when I cant see whats going on. If you join the discord, ive got a lot of people willing to help you out.
@@IcecoldjokerX20Aok
Well vengeance team is something that most people will underestimate the meta since (no offense) some people prefer brute force instead of strategically using skills and hit them on turn 4 with the vengeance stacks