🤣 you know it's an entp conversation when people speak for 2 hours without anyone getting offended, and the only thing people apologise for is for speaking too long🤣
Wao!! Couldn't stop listening!! I can see why all ENTPs are so excited about this content!! Such a peaceful & fascinating conversation to follow!! INFJ here, hope you know we very much enjoy your gifts! We are emotional, yes (^^), but we absolutely love to play with our Ti !! With ENTPs, I feel like I can "shut" my Fe (That is otherwise distracting and draining at the same time...) and focus my energy on whatever subject we are on, it takes us deeeeep somewhere & it's a pleasure to follow your mind!! Maybe, our Fe being before our Ti is what allows us not to say the "unforgivable" before it's too late?! Well, most of the time at least! ^^ Interesting that issue with Fi users! A shame you guys are misunderstood on that one! First time I can appreciate not having Fi...^^ ☺️ Well, thanks for sharing this content!! I will not miss another occasion to cross path with an ENTP in the future!! I see you better now
J is so right about saying, "I don't like it." This is the ONLY thing that works with my ISTJ wife sometimes to get her off of my back lol. I'll list my reasons, which is really me setting a boundary and saying that I don't want to do something. Then she will argue against my reasons fiercely which feels like a boundary violation. Then I'll say, "I don't like it." Her: Oooh ok.. .Conversation over lol
Agreed! Also - Boris has an online meet up group for intuitives! He posts the meet up links here if you're curious about it: facebook.com/groups/torontointuitives
before any of them even started talking i could tell they were all entps. theres just this excitement, bubbling, waiting to come to the surface, full of quick sharp energy and wit. i love it!
@Miss reign heyy. Here's the link to the video of Enfps & intjs talking about their perspective on "Fe" 👉 th-cam.com/video/YEkVhGwPIbA/w-d-xo.html, and for the "8 entps" video, you can start watching @ 28:38
I actually came here as an ENFP because of how off-put I am by Ti and wondered at the beginning if everyone felt the same about Fi, and it was SO INTERESTING when the topic just popped up 🤩
Boris made me cry when he talked about the Fi dom communication problem. Like I'm just telling you what I think, it's not personal, I'm not saying I'm the expert, it's just my interpretation of what I've learned so far about it and what do you think? This must be what I'm bumping into with people all the time.
Glad you're being so thorough in your consistency of 'type accuracy' on your channel. Yours is the best I've seen as far as "all types being accurate" (imo)
I appreciate that! Thank you, Ande. :) I try my best to invite correctly typed people on. It's nice that you notice!! What you said is a big compliment and means a lot to me.
I feel at home listening to this and think it was hilarious when everyone stopped to acknowledge how cool each other are and that they'd follow each other.
35:00 I love how they were all badmouthing Fi and then J comes out at says "what are they good at though, what can they do that we cant?" for the longest time I thought that Fi was stupid and useless. However I studied emotions and why they are important recently and it hit me. Emotions help us make decisions. Fi users know what they like, they know what they want, and they have dreams. I have found that knowing what I truly want has been a struggle. This is one of the reasons why it is hard to achieve a lot as an ENTP. if we could just organize our lives and figure out what we truly want and fight for that dream we would dominate the world. we are smarter than ENTJs. If we just had more Te, Si, and Fi then we would take over the world.
If you're an entp and you're in any art related field, in my case the Performing arts, this is _especially_ true. Being in touch with your values is an integral part of finding purpose in your life, its something I wish I knew a long time ago ngl
This is amazing. ENTP, 7w8 here and I would kill to be in one of your focus groups. This type of conversation is riveting. It's intellectually isolating being an ENTP in an S and F driven world. Any community discussions out there I should make sure to join?
If a person spoke for 2 mins and if everyone spoke once, then 2*7=14 mins. That means one person would speaks 1 time every 15 mins. That's like you get to speak 4 times an hour. Now I don't think any extroverted person would speak only 4 times an hour ahhaah. But I loved how understanding everyone was in the panel! Great interview Joyce!
I hear a lot of ENTPs say things like I'm a happy, content person, and it bothers me, because I imediately think they are surpressing their emotions. But that's because I have a hard time imagining what it's like ignoring your Fi I guess.
I’m an ENTP and we don’t actually suppress our emotions a whole lot. I wouldn’t say I’m not emotional because there times I am but it’s harder to embrace. It just doesn’t come natural to us, we feel all other emotions but attachment and depression is harder to feel and understand. We suck at relationships for a reason.
I love this! I am pretty sure I have found my type- after navigating through thinking maybe INFP, ISFP, INTP and now ENTP- ENTP just rings right :) Let's see how I feel in a few days
Relating to the point about saying truths to people, 25:32 timestamp, it can help giving feedback on the action rather than the person. "This and this action was selfish" rather than "you are selfish". And you can also soften up the language: "This and this action could be seen as selfish" (which is true, when we don't know the persons intention, the action could come from a non-selfish place). Just a piece of advice (for myself as well) that noone asked for 😉
@@dystopia-incognito I'm Infj, I see Entp's as a healthy balance of idealism and reality. If your looking for a relationship for Entp's, I don't think one with an infj would be that great. Perhaps Estp.
@@skam5572 INFJ's are lovely, as friends. I'm often too blunt for them so I don't think a relationship would work out. I think I might need an NT or ST-partner, preferrable a J.
Very true when they say everything online paints ENTP's as how they were in junior high. (For me it was highschool, but same difference). Like when I tell people I'm an ENTP I feel like they'll look it up online and think I'm saying I'm one bc I want to look edgier than I am or something.
52:26 This insight was really profound for me and gave me a new perspective. I am a person who always (!) listens to other peoples problems. And I have discovered that it drains me and make me a bit resentful in my friendships. Last week I had my friend coming over to dinner and she was a bit stressed. I am stressed as well, but I tend to forget it and focus on the other. We got into a deep and very personal talk, and I delivered some truths about her (in an ok way I think). Maybe she really needed Fe, but I couldnt give it, because I was completely drained (from handling my own and other peoples problems). And I think she might have gotten upset. Instead, I shouldn't have moved into a deep conversation (I think the thruths hurt her) - I should just have kept it at "surface level" or an intellectual level, since I personally wasn't ready to deal with all the emotional stuff that came up. That would have been much better for me - and probably also for her.... So, for me setting boundaries is really important - as to how much of other peoples stuff I am taking in. So sometimes, when people want something, and you are not able to give it, you have to set the boundary.
Just left a comment on the podcasts, 5 Stars all day long, as an ENTP, love anime and love hearing all the ENTP’s talk so openly with no offense being taken. Lol thanks for sharing this!
Quick question, is it normal for the ENTP’s to be natural lie detectors, because sometimes that annoys me about myself. I can’t stand that I can’t let even little lies slide within my inner circle, I’ve always got to call it out. I confront it with the facts of the missing puzzle pieces and they tend to get very angry.
Final comment as I end the specific episodes of this podcast, I took the Enneagram test tonight and I came out as a Type 4/ Type 8 not sure what that means exactly. But as I researched it, it showed who I am as a person. Very much the dominant features of who I am as an ENTP. Any thoughts on this?
@@justinking9426 Melissa Talks is a TH-camr ENTP and she made a poll asking enneagram of her ENTP viewers. And there were as many enneagram 8 as 7. So its normal that you cam be an 8. Me myself am enneagram 8 and ENTP.
ENTPs are so cute. My dad is entp and he gives me advice without me asking for it lol sometimes I feel like I have to hide from him and do my Fi stuff in secret (cos I don’t want to go through ‘logical’ discussion as to why I’m doing it), and fingers crossed he’ll ‘get it’ when he sees the end result - enfp
I wonder what it would be like to have a gameshow like this. You interview 8 people of X type and the same as you're doing now. The twist: There's a RAT among us!! Can you figure out who it is and what their type is?
I’ve actually have been unofficially typed by Shan of OP as MF ENTP CP/B(S), same as Prem who I talk to online. It’s really great to have this understanding of myself and I completely see how I’m this type. I haven’t found any ENTPs that I quite resonate with but that’s okay. I’m just going to develop and grow my own character with the knowledge of my own cognitive conjunctions. I’m grateful to know my functions and to continue on this journey making all my functions come as one. It’s interesting to observer ENTPs to see what I like and don’t like as a means of growth.
Yay we're almost the exact same type!! I'm a self diagnosed (haha) MF Ne/Ti CP/S(B)! I'm so curious to see people who are my exact same type, escpecially because apparently people of the exact same type share a lot of similarities outside of their cognitive type... I've always felt very alone in my personality so I feel like it would be a very valuable experience for me if I could recognize myself in those people... How did you get typed by Shan? Are you taking the OPS courses? Or did you contact her in a different way?
@@Mrinkydink Other than the video typing service is the call service. That’s the one in which you get to have an hour long conversation with one of them. You have to make a 20 minute video talking about what you want to talk about. You can use it to get a typing from them, it’s not considered official because of how done differently but I got a complete 512 type from it that completely fits and that wouldn’t have gotten down to without Shan. I’ve seen a lot of people go through this method. I was a class member but I’m taking some time off of it for now.
As an INTP I relate to almost everything here except for the cookie rule thing I think my lack of experience with people never led me to think about the social game that way
51:00 that point by Jaycee about being baffled by people forgetting all of your Fe when giving on Ti criticism is so true. I find this happens with Fi-doms
J mentioned a good point of Fi-doms idealising ENTPs and I find if I do something 'wrong' in their eyes they will suddenly forget about all the Fe I've done and try to emotionally traumatise me. This is part of our frustration with high Fi users. They're arent grateful for all of the past Fe investment you've painsakingly put in if they feel you have crossed one of their lines, which they don't make clear to you. Often we conclude this person just isn't worth the trouble and cut them out of our lives if we can to save us from pain. Meanwhile they have this social perception of being angels and we are seen as devils.
This was super interesting to see so many ENTPs together! I've been wanting to gain a more in-depth understanding of them. I liked some of these ENTPs better than the one's I know in real life. The one I am closest with does not listen to other people too well and talks over people all the time. I think J REALLY knows his stuff when it comes to personality! What ENTPs don't realize, is that we Fi users know when you are pretending to "share" with us. It comes across pretty fake to me at least. You think you are sly but to me it's pretty obvious that you are not really sharing authentically. ENTPs do seem somewhat reserved to me except for their surface Fe behaviors (which don't really feel like true feelings so, not really a connection made there). And we can easily see right through that Fe placation. Sometimes I think it's pretty funny to watch the placation although I don't let you see my amusement. I know other Fi users can see through that as well. Of course we can because we actually DO know what emotional depth truly looks like. You all really don't so you don't realize how you come off. I think maybe you can fool other Fe users though. I never say anything when an ENTP does this to me but it definitely makes me feel manipulated and I will lose trust and respect for them and will not bond with an ENTP who does that. But they won't know I feel that way. You won't know how an Fi user feels unless we intend for you to know. That's the irony of the situation. ENTP users think they are the ones not sharing but we are actually the ones who are truly holding back and you have no idea.
I'm an ENTP, I am trying to understand your comment. I get the sense that you are sharing information that is valuable, but I am lost. Would you be so kind as to possibly give an example of what you are describing? That would be greatly appreciated. Is 32:14 an example of what you are talking about?
@@fckyafeelingz4064 It's a bit different. What I'm referring to is how ENTPs try to manage people which is a little condescending in my opinion. Like they may placate us or flatter us. But people can feel it and it comes off as fake. Just be real with people and don't try to manage them. But I know ENTPs usually have good intentions so I don't judge them too harshly but I don't like when they try to manage me. I prefer authentic interactions with people.
@@hirsch4155 Yes, I'm an Ni dom (INTJ). And honestly, it could just be the particular ENTP I have in mind is uniquely dysfunctional in that way and maybe he's not typical. It's also more of a clash between our feeling functions. The Ne does not bother me at all. It's one of the 2 main area where we mesh well (sometimes our thinking works well together). I ADORE Ne. I was married to an INFP for 8 years and with another INFP for another 9 years (still friends with both). It's the child Fe, the placation, brown-nosing, and yet treating people with disrespect and condescension (completely dominating conversations, interrupting people, ignoring people, etc.) if he does not need them for something, being overly critical with his 6th spot Te. etc. Many people have said that about him so it's not just a clash in our type.
@@hfortenberry I hear you. I have the same problem with Fe, I’m ESTJ(!) and I always feel that manipulation and inauthenticity in the background with Fe that you touched upon in your comments. It’s very present in my family.
As a Ne user, I want to piggyback off of Nurture's point and say that we should create a framework in life that we stick to, based on our values, and allow our Ne to play around within that framework.
I disagree with J on the Fi reasoning. If I don't want to do something, I can certainly give you an explanation. Perhaps it might take longer or be less clear to a Ti user, but I have my reason and I am happy to give it.That being said, I think his advice could apply to some Fi users. It was a good debate between J and Wendy discussing this.
@@cherishtheday2223 Are all of your decisions based on logic? I highly doubt it. Or even if they are, how sound is your logic? You are like anyone else on this Earth, operating within a paradigm of YOUR choosing with LIMITED knowledge of what is going on. I am the same, only as an Fi user. We are both equally culpable of making poor decisions based on what we know. To accuse any dominant or auxiliary Fi/Fe user (i.e., any "F' in MBTi) of being less likely to reason well because of how they process information and make decisions is proposterous, as if saying feeling is not as equally valid in the realm of human experience. You know this, I know this, and everyone else knows this, too-even if you don't necessarily realize it.
Wait this was 2days ago? I thought it was 2 years ago. This channel is active. I just found the channel sorry if that seemed rude I was just surprised.
Jim Carrey is not an ENTP himself, but a lot of character's he plays in movies are ENTPs. the mask is ENTP, the grinch is arguably ENTP, Fletcher in Liar Liar, Count Olaf in series of unfortunate events, Carl Allen in Yes Man. He always plays an ENXP Ne dom.
This is great for me! I really like everyone who talks! No matter what they say. This is very rare for me. I'm an ENFP but I'm finding out I'm actually 49% T
01:07:00 I feel like it help me so much to see the strengths in being a polymath. All my youth, I felt forced by common sense-ers to “focus” on one career but now older and more mature, I understand that it’s possible to have multiple on going projects and interests and be masterful at each... but the trade off is a finished product takes a lot more time bc you’re bouncing between on going projects.
And I can see when I am managing my multiple-on-going projects, and bouncing between them, it look “flighty” from the outside, especially if someone is involved in one of the projects.
9?lol. That was 8 entps, then Farrah (I think) left and they were 7. The host is an INFJ buddy 😉 and one of the nicest and most deep infj you tubers I ve known, absolutely love her! -entp listener 😁
I actually really enjoyed watching this as an infp 🤣. I feel like I admire some entps. It’s just sad that we have ti/fi clash.. several Xntps I’ve spoken to really got annoyed with fi.
1:50:22 Thank you Joyce! My Ti was squirming as they were talking about Enneagram and MBTI and I was like, "BUT THERE'S DEEPER TRUTH THAT LIES BEHIND BOTH! They are not yet the purest expression of the real truth!" And maybe it's your Ni as well, but you came in and explained it perfectly. Also, is J consume last? Or blast first or something? Lol, serious Ty Lopez vibes, haha. He seems kinda Oi? Like frequently in conversation he just wants things to be already part of the known information; he is not especially amenable to receiving new revelation from others. If he is ENTP, I might guess he is double activated on a masculine Si. I'm not knowledgeable enough about OP and the animals. Is that a possible configuration? I'm throwing things out, but I don't really know what I'm talking about. This was a very interesting video for me to watch. I'm still trying to figure out my type, and I actually got into type through Enneagram, but I am still not sure which type fits me at the deepest level. One thing interestingly dogmatic across the board in typing systems is that people don't change type. I'm not so sure, but either way my biggest consideration lately is simply depression. I'm not sure whether I've changed type, but my depression certainly has changed my apparent personality greatly. It's very hard to pull apart all the problems in my life and see what is happening because of me and what is happening because of my environment. Maybe I should look for youtube videos on that topic... Thank you, Joyce, for another great type talk!
"BUT THERE'S DEEPER TRUTH THAT LIES BEHIND BOTH! They are not yet the purest expression of the real truth!" I feel you there!!! :) Nice to know someone gets it! You're speaking my language. With J, I do think he is ENTP. In my view, he's very open to new information. I interpreted his actions as him Ne bouncing ideas off of people - staying with an opinion to see what would happen. It was experimental in a sense. Which strikes me as him being Ne and a perceiver. Of course, just my opinion. 🙂 I understand your struggle with depression, it's a life long battle for me! Also, if you're still trying to figure out your type, I have a typing service. If you're interested, you can reach out to me at joycemeng22@gmail.com
You cab search information about each dominant function as kids, and ask people near you how were you when a kid. Also trying to remember that years of your life. When you know what was your dominant function as kid, then it's easy because only have two type options. Maybe 4 if you doubt between 2 dominant functions.
Has anyone heard what type Henry Darger is? I don’t think he’s an ENTP but since you guys seem to know a lot of artists and their types............ He is one fascinating hombre. So is Leonardo.
ENTPs rambled about Fi for a very long time in this video which did no go that well. Fi can also come up with Fe style like camaraderie and all getting along but values authenticity of personal, moral values. That’s it.
Fi is the hardest for us to understand because we have PoLR AKA blind spot Fi. You would think Se the function in our 8th spot would be our biggest weakness. We do have bad Se... but Fi the function in the 7th spot is the hardest for us to use and understand. it's weird how the blind spot works that way. My first girlfriend was ENFP, and it was the Ti Fi clash that separated us. She told me that I was too logical and left me for it. since my best romantic experiences have been with INFJs and ENFJs. They understand me more. As long as they are not mistyped...I think that INFJs and ENFJs are GREAT with ENTPs.
i struggle with Enneagram because i cant figure out what I am. I know im ENTP but in Enneagram ive tested very high in 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, and 3. i think something is off in the system if i can relate and identify with 66% of the types.
I actually disagree with the rules of relationships that ENTP Nurture put out: You shouldn't give without expecting something back (at least not in a close relationship) and you shouldn't only consider what people need and give that - you have to consider what you have to give as well. It's a balance.
1:06:18 I have some difficulties separating what you say here Joyce (about Ne/Se users being able to transfer their skills from one subject field to another) from how Ni users use Ni. Because Ni identify the underlying pattern of things and can then recognize the same patterns in other things. Wouldn't that be the corresponding idea to what you are saying? Can you gives some examples on the concept of transferring skills? (I think my underlying assumption is that mental skills within a field gives an ability to pattern recognize and vice versa to some extent).
Good question! Here's my rationale: To gather transferable skills you need to have a variety of different experiences. What Se and Ne are good at is gathering new. Whether it is new skills, new thoughts, new ideas or new anything. This naturally gives them many quirky skills from different disciplines. Ni and Si are more committed to a path and thus generally don't gather as many cross-disciplinary skills as lead Pe (Se & Ne) people would. Of course there are exceptions, but I find this to be true a majority of the time.
@@JoyceMeng22 Okay thanks 😊 When you are talking skills, do you mean specific skills, like make a good serve in volleyball or being good at cooking, or do you mean broader skills like eye-hand coordination or the ability to indetify a language? And do you have an example of a skill transfer? I am sorry if I seem inquisitorial - it is purely out of curiosity, since I am trying to pin down the differences between things. And, of course, only if you have the time. 🙂
@@aniokay I'm ENTP and for me mixing skills is to use what I know about physics and about tailoring to fix the glass of a lamp (I did it really one week ago). Also to type a person mixing my knowledge about MBTI, enneagram, antisocial disorders and amount of empathy, kinds of attachment, temperament... And mixing all of this in mind when typing, and I was studying this for only one year. Also when I use maths and my personal knowledge about people to guess the percentage of population with some characteristic (and I've never studied social sciences). My INTJ mother says that me and my ESTP father do this all time, that's why we are survivors in every new situation. Sorry my English, I'm Spanish.
@@pornlove99 What exactly is a "classic ENTP"? What does one look like; I mean, how would you describe this archetype, what signs indicate to you that someone is an ENTP or not?
@*insert type* Oh yeah, I was joking about it, but it sure is nice to be able to speak with absolutely no filter, and at the same time triggering no one.
I have to say I absolutely love the dynamic here of these people together. I think I need to find myself some ENTP friends. 1:24:23 Okay, that's just baffling. I used to be super into Astrology when I was younger. Turns out, and I just checked if I remembered correctly, that my Uranus is in Sagittarius conjunct my Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Saturn. That's one hell of a co-inky-dink, ha!
Hmm, I think some entps like to push their beliefs onto others, I tend to like intjs as they narrow it, sometimes, entps talk the same thing in a different way on ne..they narrow it and say yr talking the same theory .. Entps are hamsters in the wheel
As an entp, I read the title of this video and thought "DEAR.GOD."
lol!! 😂😂
my thoughts as well! And then I am not mistaken by how it turned out.
same
Same!! 😆🤷♀️
🤣 you know it's an entp conversation when people speak for 2 hours without anyone getting offended, and the only thing people apologise for is for speaking too long🤣
Accurate
@@no_special_person uP
Tru
„Fi and Ti get along until the Ti offends the Fi“ that’s so true it’s always like that with my enfp friend -entp
J is very mature. I enjoyed his transparency.
Wao!! Couldn't stop listening!! I can see why all ENTPs are so excited about this content!! Such a peaceful & fascinating conversation to follow!!
INFJ here, hope you know we very much enjoy your gifts! We are emotional, yes (^^), but we absolutely love to play with our Ti !!
With ENTPs, I feel like I can "shut" my Fe (That is otherwise distracting and draining at the same time...) and focus my energy on whatever subject we are on, it takes us deeeeep somewhere & it's a pleasure to follow your mind!!
Maybe, our Fe being before our Ti is what allows us not to say the "unforgivable" before it's too late?! Well, most of the time at least! ^^
Interesting that issue with Fi users! A shame you guys are misunderstood on that one! First time I can appreciate not having Fi...^^ ☺️
Well, thanks for sharing this content!! I will not miss another occasion to cross path with an ENTP in the future!!
I see you better now
J is so right about saying, "I don't like it." This is the ONLY thing that works with my ISTJ wife sometimes to get her off of my back lol. I'll list my reasons, which is really me setting a boundary and saying that I don't want to do something. Then she will argue against my reasons fiercely which feels like a boundary violation. Then I'll say, "I don't like it." Her: Oooh ok..
.Conversation over lol
lmao!! What a life hack :)
Ooo, what is your type? ENTP?
Haha! Very good, thank you. I'm pretty sure my daughter naturally learned this as well
(Me as her mother being the
EN[50% F/T]P )
@@biboba604 INFJ
Every time Boris spoke, I could feel so much ebullient energy. He gave me Robin Williams vibes.
He also does look like Robin Williams lol
@@j4zz152 Frr
Boris' enthusiasm is extremely attractive to me. Signed, a fellow ENTP. Allegedly.
Agreed! Also - Boris has an online meet up group for intuitives! He posts the meet up links here if you're curious about it: facebook.com/groups/torontointuitives
@@JoyceMeng22 I'm nowhere near Toronto, but maybe they do something similar in my country. I'll have to take a look. Thanks.
before any of them even started talking i could tell they were all entps. theres just this excitement, bubbling, waiting to come to the surface, full of quick sharp energy and wit. i love it!
Great powers of observation, Patricia!! :)
I like entps! They're lowkey very kind. I'm an ENFJ and I see some parallels in our diplomatic capacities
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@@speakersr-lyefaudio6830 😂😂😂👍👍👍
So funny how in the enfp & intj video they expressed their discomfort about "Fe" and here too they also expressed their discomfort about "Fi"
Fe/Fi war continues haha
@@JoyceMeng22 🤣
@Miss reign heyy. Here's the link to the video of Enfps & intjs talking about their perspective on "Fe" 👉 th-cam.com/video/YEkVhGwPIbA/w-d-xo.html, and for the "8 entps" video, you can start watching @ 28:38
I actually came here as an ENFP because of how off-put I am by Ti and wondered at the beginning if everyone felt the same about Fi, and it was SO INTERESTING when the topic just popped up 🤩
Boris made me cry when he talked about the Fi dom communication problem. Like I'm just telling you what I think, it's not personal, I'm not saying I'm the expert, it's just my interpretation of what I've learned so far about it and what do you think? This must be what I'm bumping into with people all the time.
who knew a bunch of ENTPs talking about typology with logic and disagreements was so energizing
- an INTP
Glad you're being so thorough in your consistency of 'type accuracy' on your channel. Yours is the best I've seen as far as
"all types being accurate" (imo)
I appreciate that! Thank you, Ande. :) I try my best to invite correctly typed people on. It's nice that you notice!! What you said is a big compliment and means a lot to me.
Only ENTP can fill up 2 hours and make it interesting
I listened to the whole video at 2x I really enjoyed thank you- entp
Awesome, thank you! Happy you liked it, Dawn. :)
same😭😭
I feel at home listening to this and think it was hilarious when everyone stopped to acknowledge how cool each other are and that they'd follow each other.
35:00 I love how they were all badmouthing Fi and then J comes out at says "what are they good at though, what can they do that we cant?" for the longest time I thought that Fi was stupid and useless. However I studied emotions and why they are important recently and it hit me. Emotions help us make decisions. Fi users know what they like, they know what they want, and they have dreams. I have found that knowing what I truly want has been a struggle. This is one of the reasons why it is hard to achieve a lot as an ENTP. if we could just organize our lives and figure out what we truly want and fight for that dream we would dominate the world. we are smarter than ENTJs. If we just had more Te, Si, and Fi then we would take over the world.
You can't live successfully in this world with other human beings without emotional intelligence.
If you're an entp and you're in any art related field, in my case the Performing arts, this is _especially_ true. Being in touch with your values is an integral part of finding purpose in your life, its something I wish I knew a long time ago ngl
MBTI gives you a framework to make educated guesses about people - very true, Boris!
Joyce Meng wow you’re a great mediator!
I appreciate you saying that - Thank you. :) I try!
This is amazing. ENTP, 7w8 here and I would kill to be in one of your focus groups. This type of conversation is riveting. It's intellectually isolating being an ENTP in an S and F driven world. Any community discussions out there I should make sure to join?
If a person spoke for 2 mins and if everyone spoke once, then 2*7=14 mins. That means one person would speaks 1 time every 15 mins. That's like you get to speak 4 times an hour. Now I don't think any extroverted person would speak only 4 times an hour ahhaah.
But I loved how understanding everyone was in the panel! Great interview Joyce!
I like how you think 😉
Entps are the least extroverted of the Exxx types. There are Ixxx types who are more extroverted than entps
@@yeetyeetyeet1967 uP
We want to hear more from farrah!
Felt this 100%!
"Some people will just get offended if you say something vaguely true" -Hostak , lol ain't that the truth lol
“If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth.”
― Carl Sagan
I hear a lot of ENTPs say things like I'm a happy, content person, and it bothers me, because I imediately think they are surpressing their emotions. But that's because I have a hard time imagining what it's like ignoring your Fi I guess.
imagine ENTPs as a person without a mirror.
I’m an ENTP and we don’t actually suppress our emotions a whole lot. I wouldn’t say I’m not emotional because there times I am but it’s harder to embrace. It just doesn’t come natural to us, we feel all other emotions but attachment and depression is harder to feel and understand. We suck at relationships for a reason.
Funny, Fi is actually the PoLR function of ENTPs (ILE) on Socionics
Clearly, J has been influenced by Fi users :)
I love this! I am pretty sure I have found my type- after navigating through thinking maybe INFP, ISFP, INTP and now ENTP- ENTP just rings right :) Let's see how I feel in a few days
J's is like the ENTP i know in real life. he got that vibes
8 wing for sure. He seems almost J at times.
@@luckyswine That comes from him working on his SI inferior which make you a strategist.
@@luckyswine 9w8?
I really like this guy lol..
@@the-doubting-thomas628w7 i guess
Relating to the point about saying truths to people, 25:32 timestamp, it can help giving feedback on the action rather than the person.
"This and this action was selfish" rather than "you are selfish". And you can also soften up the language:
"This and this action could be seen as selfish" (which is true, when we don't know the persons intention, the action could come from a non-selfish place).
Just a piece of advice (for myself as well) that noone asked for 😉
Jesus Christ Farrah looks Monica Belluci
Yeah, she does. She's a lucky woman.
I can listen to ENTP's for hours.
Sounds like the life! A true Ne paradise.
@@JoyceMeng22 I find their creative view so fascinating and interesting. I'm truly intrigued by their perspective.
@@skam5572 What type are you? Asking for a friend.
@@dystopia-incognito I'm Infj, I see Entp's as a healthy balance of idealism and reality. If your looking for a relationship for Entp's, I don't think one with an infj would be that great. Perhaps Estp.
@@skam5572 INFJ's are lovely, as friends. I'm often too blunt for them so I don't think a relationship would work out. I think I might need an NT or ST-partner, preferrable a J.
Very cool podcast!
Would have liked a few of the quiet folks (shocker as ENTP! 😂) to talk more
Very true when they say everything online paints ENTP's as how they were in junior high. (For me it was highschool, but same difference). Like when I tell people I'm an ENTP I feel like they'll look it up online and think I'm saying I'm one bc I want to look edgier than I am or something.
Entps are fascinating.
I can hear everybody’s brain just going thousand miles per hour analyzing everyone.
52:26 This insight was really profound for me and gave me a new perspective. I am a person who always (!) listens to other peoples problems. And I have discovered that it drains me and make me a bit resentful in my friendships.
Last week I had my friend coming over to dinner and she was a bit stressed. I am stressed as well, but I tend to forget it and focus on the other. We got into a deep and very personal talk, and I delivered some truths about her (in an ok way I think). Maybe she really needed Fe, but I couldnt give it, because I was completely drained (from handling my own and other peoples problems). And I think she might have gotten upset.
Instead, I shouldn't have moved into a deep conversation (I think the thruths hurt her) - I should just have kept it at "surface level" or an intellectual level, since I personally wasn't ready to deal with all the emotional stuff that came up.
That would have been much better for me - and probably also for her....
So, for me setting boundaries is really important - as to how much of other peoples stuff I am taking in.
So sometimes, when people want something, and you are not able to give it, you have to set the boundary.
Boundary setting is sooo important!! "boundary setting is expectation setting" they say.
@@JoyceMeng22 Yes - I am in the proces of figuring this out. It is very hard to set boundaries. 🙃
Just left a comment on the podcasts, 5 Stars all day long, as an ENTP, love anime and love hearing all the ENTP’s talk so openly with no offense being taken. Lol thanks for sharing this!
Quick question, is it normal for the ENTP’s to be natural lie detectors, because sometimes that annoys me about myself. I can’t stand that I can’t let even little lies slide within my inner circle, I’ve always got to call it out. I confront it with the facts of the missing puzzle pieces and they tend to get very angry.
Final comment as I end the specific episodes of this podcast, I took the Enneagram test tonight and I came out as a Type 4/ Type 8 not sure what that means exactly. But as I researched it, it showed who I am as a person. Very much the dominant features of who I am as an ENTP. Any thoughts on this?
@@justinking9426 Melissa Talks is a TH-camr ENTP and she made a poll asking enneagram of her ENTP viewers. And there were as many enneagram 8 as 7. So its normal that you cam be an 8. Me myself am enneagram 8 and ENTP.
ENTPs are so cute. My dad is entp and he gives me advice without me asking for it lol sometimes I feel like I have to hide from him and do my Fi stuff in secret (cos I don’t want to go through ‘logical’ discussion as to why I’m doing it), and fingers crossed he’ll ‘get it’ when he sees the end result - enfp
I wonder what it would be like to have a gameshow like this.
You interview 8 people of X type and the same as you're doing now.
The twist: There's a RAT among us!!
Can you figure out who it is and what their type is?
That's quite hilarious. I'll think about covering this topic. 🙂
This is phenomenal
Pls more entp content
I’ve actually have been unofficially typed by Shan of OP as MF ENTP CP/B(S), same as Prem who I talk to online. It’s really great to have this understanding of myself and I completely see how I’m this type. I haven’t found any ENTPs that I quite resonate with but that’s okay. I’m just going to develop and grow my own character with the knowledge of my own cognitive conjunctions. I’m grateful to know my functions and to continue on this journey making all my functions come as one. It’s interesting to observer ENTPs to see what I like and don’t like as a means of growth.
You are AMAZING!
Unofficial is the new official 😁
@@arwuh XD
Yay we're almost the exact same type!! I'm a self diagnosed (haha) MF Ne/Ti CP/S(B)! I'm so curious to see people who are my exact same type, escpecially because apparently people of the exact same type share a lot of similarities outside of their cognitive type... I've always felt very alone in my personality so I feel like it would be a very valuable experience for me if I could recognize myself in those people...
How did you get typed by Shan? Are you taking the OPS courses? Or did you contact her in a different way?
@@Mrinkydink Other than the video typing service is the call service. That’s the one in which you get to have an hour long conversation with one of them. You have to make a 20 minute video talking about what you want to talk about. You can use it to get a typing from them, it’s not considered official because of how done differently but I got a complete 512 type from it that completely fits and that wouldn’t have gotten down to without Shan. I’ve seen a lot of people go through this method. I was a class member but I’m taking some time off of it for now.
Why are ENTPs so humorous and upbeat? :)) As an INTJ 7w8, I want to have an ENTP friend :))
Def a good match. Two good friends of mine are INTJ and it fits perfectly on the personal level.
"Child Fe", I can feel its presence! =D
As an INTP I relate to almost everything here except for the cookie rule thing
I think my lack of experience with people never led me to think about the social game that way
51:00 that point by Jaycee about being baffled by people forgetting all of your Fe when giving on Ti criticism is so true. I find this happens with Fi-doms
J is saying all the right things 👏
J mentioned a good point of Fi-doms idealising ENTPs and I find if I do something 'wrong' in their eyes they will suddenly forget about all the Fe I've done and try to emotionally traumatise me. This is part of our frustration with high Fi users. They're arent grateful for all of the past Fe investment you've painsakingly put in if they feel you have crossed one of their lines, which they don't make clear to you. Often we conclude this person just isn't worth the trouble and cut them out of our lives if we can to save us from pain. Meanwhile they have this social perception of being angels and we are seen as devils.
they're all so attractive
Yes Tyrion agreed not only the best ENTP, but the best character in that for real!!!
This was super interesting to see so many ENTPs together! I've been wanting to gain a more in-depth understanding of them. I liked some of these ENTPs better than the one's I know in real life. The one I am closest with does not listen to other people too well and talks over people all the time. I think J REALLY knows his stuff when it comes to personality! What ENTPs don't realize, is that we Fi users know when you are pretending to "share" with us. It comes across pretty fake to me at least. You think you are sly but to me it's pretty obvious that you are not really sharing authentically. ENTPs do seem somewhat reserved to me except for their surface Fe behaviors (which don't really feel like true feelings so, not really a connection made there). And we can easily see right through that Fe placation. Sometimes I think it's pretty funny to watch the placation although I don't let you see my amusement. I know other Fi users can see through that as well. Of course we can because we actually DO know what emotional depth truly looks like.
You all really don't so you don't realize how you come off. I think maybe you can fool other Fe users though. I never say anything when an ENTP does this to me but it definitely makes me feel manipulated and I will lose trust and respect for them and will not bond with an ENTP who does that. But they won't know I feel that way. You won't know how an Fi user feels unless we intend for you to know. That's the irony of the situation. ENTP users think they are the ones not sharing but we are actually the ones who are truly holding back and you have no idea.
I'm an ENTP, I am trying to understand your comment. I get the sense that you are sharing information that is valuable, but I am lost. Would you be so kind as to possibly give an example of what you are describing? That would be greatly appreciated.
Is 32:14 an example of what you are talking about?
@@fckyafeelingz4064 It's a bit different. What I'm referring to is how ENTPs try to manage people which is a little condescending in my opinion. Like they may placate us or flatter us. But people can feel it and it comes off as fake. Just be real with people and don't try to manage them. But I know ENTPs usually have good intentions so I don't judge them too harshly but I don't like when they try to manage me. I prefer authentic interactions with people.
@@hfortenberry Can I ask what is your type? I’m thinking maybe you have Ni not Ne, that’s why it’s annoying?
@@hirsch4155 Yes, I'm an Ni dom (INTJ). And honestly, it could just be the particular ENTP I have in mind is uniquely dysfunctional in that way and maybe he's not typical. It's also more of a clash between our feeling functions. The Ne does not bother me at all. It's one of the 2 main area where we mesh well (sometimes our thinking works well together). I ADORE Ne. I was married to an INFP for 8 years and with another INFP for another 9 years (still friends with both). It's the child Fe, the placation, brown-nosing, and yet treating people with disrespect and condescension (completely dominating conversations, interrupting people, ignoring people, etc.) if he does not need them for something, being overly critical with his 6th spot Te. etc. Many people have said that about him so it's not just a clash in our type.
@@hfortenberry I hear you. I have the same problem with Fe, I’m ESTJ(!) and I always feel that manipulation and inauthenticity in the background with Fe that you touched upon in your comments. It’s very present in my family.
As a Ne user, I want to piggyback off of Nurture's point and say that we should create a framework in life that we stick to, based on our values, and allow our Ne to play around within that framework.
Agreed!!!
I really like the emotion enfp bring to the table, they irrationally like us and that bring life to the relationships -ENTP
I disagree with J on the Fi reasoning. If I don't want to do something, I can certainly give you an explanation. Perhaps it might take longer or be less clear to a Ti user, but I have my reason and I am happy to give it.That being said, I think his advice could apply to some Fi users. It was a good debate between J and Wendy discussing this.
I think that the Fi reasoning would lack actual reasoning. It is more emotion-based and less logically sound.
@@cherishtheday2223 Are all of your decisions based on logic? I highly doubt it. Or even if they are, how sound is your logic? You are like anyone else on this Earth, operating within a paradigm of YOUR choosing with LIMITED knowledge of what is going on. I am the same, only as an Fi user. We are both equally culpable of making poor decisions based on what we know. To accuse any dominant or auxiliary Fi/Fe user (i.e., any "F' in MBTi) of being less likely to reason well because of how they process information and make decisions is proposterous, as if saying feeling is not as equally valid in the realm of human experience. You know this, I know this, and everyone else knows this, too-even if you don't necessarily realize it.
I'm an ENTP - J is perfectly hilarious!!
1:40:15 they have it as
1 - Te
2 - Fe
3 - X
4 - Ni
5 - Ti
6 - Fi
7 - Se
8 -Ne
9 - Si
Thank you, Peter!!!
Entps are cool J wow that was some indepth analysis there bro
YEW!"
Wait this was 2days ago? I thought it was 2 years ago. This channel is active. I just found the channel sorry if that seemed rude I was just surprised.
Yes, it was recent :) & no worries! I'm a new TH-camr on the scene. Nice to meet you, Jose.
ENTPs are quick witted, innovative and honest also they are the Jack of all trades .
See their faces make me want to create a fun atmosphere - ESFJ
"We end up saying things that aren't actually true from emotional standpoint" damn so true
I wish this had more structure. For instance, if each person brought 3 songs that they thought represented their type and why or something like that.
I can watch this without getting bored.
Normally if one person talks the whole time even if it is interesting, I am drifting off
Jim Carrey is not an ENTP himself, but a lot of character's he plays in movies are ENTPs. the mask is ENTP, the grinch is arguably ENTP, Fletcher in Liar Liar, Count Olaf in series of unfortunate events, Carl Allen in Yes Man. He always plays an ENXP Ne dom.
What type is he then?
This is great for me! I really like everyone who talks! No matter what they say. This is very rare for me. I'm an ENFP but I'm finding out I'm actually 49% T
You need to learn more about the cognitive function, because that 16 personality thingy isn’t always accurate
31:30 I feel like I understand your frustration J 😂
01:07:00 I feel like it help me so much to see the strengths in being a polymath. All my youth, I felt forced by common sense-ers to “focus” on one career but now older and more mature, I understand that it’s possible to have multiple on going projects and interests and be masterful at each... but the trade off is a finished product takes a lot more time bc you’re bouncing between on going projects.
And I can see when I am managing my multiple-on-going projects, and bouncing between them, it look “flighty” from the outside, especially if someone is involved in one of the projects.
1:14:00 I feel like I so relate to J right now, I’m in the middle the same situation he’s referring to.
2:01:40 Yes!!!
8:48 Talking about people that die a long time ago I think Socrates and Goethe might be ENTP as well.
Socrates was an ENTP and Goethe an ENFJ.
I came for Mbti and they gave me astrology
LOOOL
LMAO
you must be a really cool individual 😉 hahaha
J is a type 8 100%
So annoying...Take up way to much room
Nine ENTPs wrecking their brains trying to listen without interrupting. XD
Lol so true. Some of them doing better than others
@@ihsankamil6279 uP
9?lol. That was 8 entps, then Farrah (I think) left and they were 7. The host is an INFJ buddy 😉 and one of the nicest and most deep infj you tubers I ve known, absolutely love her! -entp listener 😁
@@5MARYANNA5Hey I'm an ENTP, and you're expecting me to sweat the details? 7, 8, 9 it all amounts to too many roosters in one hen house.
I actually really enjoyed watching this as an infp 🤣. I feel like I admire some entps. It’s just sad that we have ti/fi clash.. several
Xntps I’ve spoken to really got annoyed with fi.
, or Javad, Boris may have learned to identify his feelings and deal with them in a way that isn't so reactionary.
1:50:22 Thank you Joyce! My Ti was squirming as they were talking about Enneagram and MBTI and I was like, "BUT THERE'S DEEPER TRUTH THAT LIES BEHIND BOTH! They are not yet the purest expression of the real truth!" And maybe it's your Ni as well, but you came in and explained it perfectly.
Also, is J consume last? Or blast first or something? Lol, serious Ty Lopez vibes, haha. He seems kinda Oi? Like frequently in conversation he just wants things to be already part of the known information; he is not especially amenable to receiving new revelation from others. If he is ENTP, I might guess he is double activated on a masculine Si. I'm not knowledgeable enough about OP and the animals. Is that a possible configuration? I'm throwing things out, but I don't really know what I'm talking about.
This was a very interesting video for me to watch. I'm still trying to figure out my type, and I actually got into type through Enneagram, but I am still not sure which type fits me at the deepest level. One thing interestingly dogmatic across the board in typing systems is that people don't change type. I'm not so sure, but either way my biggest consideration lately is simply depression. I'm not sure whether I've changed type, but my depression certainly has changed my apparent personality greatly. It's very hard to pull apart all the problems in my life and see what is happening because of me and what is happening because of my environment. Maybe I should look for youtube videos on that topic...
Thank you, Joyce, for another great type talk!
"BUT THERE'S DEEPER TRUTH THAT LIES BEHIND BOTH! They are not yet the purest expression of the real truth!"
I feel you there!!! :) Nice to know someone gets it! You're speaking my language.
With J, I do think he is ENTP. In my view, he's very open to new information. I interpreted his actions as him Ne bouncing ideas off of people - staying with an opinion to see what would happen. It was experimental in a sense. Which strikes me as him being Ne and a perceiver. Of course, just my opinion. 🙂
I understand your struggle with depression, it's a life long battle for me! Also, if you're still trying to figure out your type, I have a typing service. If you're interested, you can reach out to me at joycemeng22@gmail.com
You cab search information about each dominant function as kids, and ask people near you how were you when a kid. Also trying to remember that years of your life. When you know what was your dominant function as kid, then it's easy because only have two type options. Maybe 4 if you doubt between 2 dominant functions.
How many entps have wondered if they're a sociopath or something at some point as a child/teen because of your analysis in relationships?
Has anyone heard what type Henry Darger is? I don’t think he’s an ENTP but since you guys seem to know a lot of artists and their types............
He is one fascinating hombre. So is Leonardo.
ENTPs rambled about Fi for a very long time in this video which did no go that well. Fi can also come up with Fe style like camaraderie and all getting along but values authenticity of personal, moral values. That’s it.
Fi is the hardest for us to understand because we have PoLR AKA blind spot Fi. You would think Se the function in our 8th spot would be our biggest weakness. We do have bad Se... but Fi the function in the 7th spot is the hardest for us to use and understand. it's weird how the blind spot works that way. My first girlfriend was ENFP, and it was the Ti Fi clash that separated us. She told me that I was too logical and left me for it. since my best romantic experiences have been with INFJs and ENFJs. They understand me more. As long as they are not mistyped...I think that INFJs and ENFJs are GREAT with ENTPs.
Nts talking about fi is like someone who is blind that's arguing about colours. Lol
Everyone still has all the functions.
man this is so much fun, i wanna join this chat too
Spiral Dynamics is very good indeed!
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YAESESES!
Conflict, they prefer to escape conflict.
i struggle with Enneagram because i cant figure out what I am. I know im ENTP but in Enneagram ive tested very high in 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, and 3. i think something is off in the system if i can relate and identify with 66% of the types.
Me during this whole video: girl same
When I saw the title as an INTJ I immediately thought "This should be fun"
I actually disagree with the rules of relationships that ENTP Nurture put out: You shouldn't give without expecting something back (at least not in a close relationship) and you shouldn't only consider what people need and give that - you have to consider what you have to give as well. It's a balance.
Enter the ENTPverse
1:06:18 I have some difficulties separating what you say here Joyce (about Ne/Se users being able to transfer their skills from one subject field to another) from how Ni users use Ni.
Because Ni identify the underlying pattern of things and can then recognize the same patterns in other things. Wouldn't that be the corresponding idea to what you are saying? Can you gives some examples on the concept of transferring skills?
(I think my underlying assumption is that mental skills within a field gives an ability to pattern recognize and vice versa to some extent).
Good question! Here's my rationale: To gather transferable skills you need to have a variety of different experiences. What Se and Ne are good at is gathering new. Whether it is new skills, new thoughts, new ideas or new anything. This naturally gives them many quirky skills from different disciplines.
Ni and Si are more committed to a path and thus generally don't gather as many cross-disciplinary skills as lead Pe (Se & Ne) people would. Of course there are exceptions, but I find this to be true a majority of the time.
@@JoyceMeng22 Okay thanks 😊 When you are talking skills, do you mean specific skills, like make a good serve in volleyball or being good at cooking, or do you mean broader skills like eye-hand coordination or the ability to indetify a language? And do you have an example of a skill transfer?
I am sorry if I seem inquisitorial - it is purely out of curiosity, since I am trying to pin down the differences between things.
And, of course, only if you have the time. 🙂
@@aniokay I'm ENTP and for me mixing skills is to use what I know about physics and about tailoring to fix the glass of a lamp (I did it really one week ago).
Also to type a person mixing my knowledge about MBTI, enneagram, antisocial disorders and amount of empathy, kinds of attachment, temperament... And mixing all of this in mind when typing, and I was studying this for only one year.
Also when I use maths and my personal knowledge about people to guess the percentage of population with some characteristic (and I've never studied social sciences).
My INTJ mother says that me and my ESTP father do this all time, that's why we are survivors in every new situation.
Sorry my English, I'm Spanish.
@@Lizzzi86 Thank you so much. Very exciting points you make - it makes so much sense :)
No worries with the english - I am danish myself 😁
I’m surprised chase isn’t here too lol
Haha if y'all want him on so badly, I could ask. :P
@@JoyceMeng22 CSJ is a classic ENTP
@@pornlove99 agreed. I didn't see it at first because I saw him INTJ shadow... i.e. my own shadow!
@@pornlove99
What exactly is a "classic ENTP"?
What does one look like; I mean, how would you describe this archetype, what signs indicate to you that someone is an ENTP or not?
I think entps are a better as a short story writer than a novel writer, like junji ito if that makes sense
Definitely too many ENTP's at this podcast.
Define "too many", because for me, with just one of us, is too much.
Wait until Joyce rounds up eight ESTJs!
@*insert type* What do you mean by being ourselves? I am an ENTP and I do not think I am familiar with that concept.
@*insert type* Oh yeah, I was joking about it, but it sure is nice to be able to speak with absolutely no filter, and at the same time triggering no one.
@@farrex0 Yes, like being able to breathe again!
I'm an entp, enneagram type 4 and I am interested in your website you mentioned in this video but I couldn't find any information on that.
Hi Karen! Websites coming up in a few months. 🙂 Co-vid threw off the launch date, but it'll be up.
Farrah is so beautiful .. does she has social media anymore ? (her twitter was deactivated)
Thank u 🥺💟 social media identity crisis mode moment lolol but my Instagram is @zaragaf !!!!
@@farrahzaraga , as an ENTP myself i feel you in so many levels.. sending you only good vibes. ✨💙
@@farrahzaraga i just sent you a follow request. Fellow ENTP also in social media identity crisis... or just identity crisis in general 🙃😄
How to make an entp happy?
Don't be butt-hurt, laugh when they throw jokes, stimulate them with topic of discussion 👍
Who shuts microphones? Based on what?
Alan Watts @5:20, yeah man!
I have to say I absolutely love the dynamic here of these people together. I think I need to find myself some ENTP friends. 1:24:23 Okay, that's just baffling. I used to be super into Astrology when I was younger. Turns out, and I just checked if I remembered correctly, that my Uranus is in Sagittarius conjunct my Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Saturn. That's one hell of a co-inky-dink, ha!
ENTP pals are awesome! Good choice. 🙂 What a coincidence indeed!! Farrah could be onto something
So entps can look pissed off/serious too...
Dont Tell Me What To Do. 🕺
Hmm, I think some entps like to push their beliefs onto others, I tend to like intjs as they narrow it, sometimes, entps talk the same thing in a different way on ne..they narrow it and say yr talking the same theory ..
Entps are hamsters in the wheel
That is right. They push what they think is right even if it lacks evidence.
@@janiholar2000 exactly, but tho it lacks credibility, they more often or not are spot on..I often find, once a person thinks about it.
I do that nowdays strategically to force people to talk/exchange ideas when I don't know something because most people take personally.
21:45 ahhh so im not the only one who gets bad Ti Fe clash?