@@Enrese27He meant it's virtually impossible for the batter to not hit the catcher, because of where the catcher was set up. He wasn't talking about the batter hitting the pitch.
@@JimYeatshe is speaking to the fact certain pitchers are hard too catch for. The closer to the plate the shorter the distance. The shorter the distance the less amount the ball call break drop or curve. Thus making less catching errors (dropped, missed balls)
@@beauli1928 he had his head busted open on a backswing. When does he tell the idiot coaches to shut up. he and his brother are really good at what they do behind the plate, it's their bat that needs help.
@@dalethelander3781 gee let me read my comment again, blah blah blah blah nope, learn to read. Didn't say that at all. What I said he doesn't need any help with his defense that IF the coaches want to help to do it with his hitting. Never said he can't but he is not as good of a hitter than he is as a fielder so IF he could use help it's with his bat. He is to inconsistent in that area while his fielding has always been good and steadily betting better. He goes on hot streaks and the cold streaks last longer than the hot ones.
Uh... because it LOOKS like a backswing? Obviously they're not talking about it literally being called a backswing, because that's a golf term and the way he swings the bat looks like the way a golfer would swing.
They want to catch the ball before it breaks so much that it's too difficult to frame. It gives better control of the strike zone if they catch it as close as possible. Not that I agree with it though.
What the heck are they saying "backswing" for? It was the middle of the swing! Contreras was so far up he hit Contreras' arm so far ahead of the pitch the bat wasn't even angled at the ball yet!
The coaches told him to move closer. They tried to re teach him the position. It’s on them, and cardinals fans have been saying forever it’s time for new management
I broke my left arm twice. Bad memories and pain. In 1st grade i shattered my elbow in pieces, i remember staying up all night on drugs and it felt like a week. It was a living nightmare. Then again in 7th grade i broke my wrist and it was almost sticking out of the skin. When the dr grabbed my arm and pulled the bone back into place it was horrible....😢 👦
It would ALWAYS be catcher's interference. There is no other possible call that could ever be made. The batter can do anything he wants with his bat to go for a ball.
@Voidepicgamer exactly. And the coaching in STL is abysmal. They have managed to take some of the best ball players in the league and ruin them. Nolan Arenado is the prime example. No wonder Yadi won't show his face anywhere near this team now
You'd think. But there's this little thing the Cards want him to get better at called "framing." Trying to fool the umpire into calling a ball a strike.
@@dalethelander3781 Imagine if umps called balls or strikes based on where the ball travels and not on what the catcher is doing with his glove. I get that framing currently works, but it shouldn't.
@@joetoth5465 People often recommend Romans after John. Proverbs is good too. If you aren't saved you should watch a video called the Bible way to Heaven.
MLB catcher routinely get a little too close to the action. You get a large batter with long arms and a long bat and a long swing and you gotta give him some extra space.
Yeah that's terrible he obviously had his arm too far into the path of the batter's swing with the batter also probably moved back in the box as an adjustment mid at bat and the catcher didn't notice.
There have been WAYYYY too many instances of catcher’s interference this year. What are guys being taught?! You can frame very well catching it deeper, too
Coaches are telling catchers to move up in the box because it's easier to frame pitches and take away the view from the home plate umpire. Can't blame the hitter on that one.. Hopefully it will be a wake up call for organizations to have their Catchers in the proper position from now on.
Everybody rightly pointing out Contreras reached too far with his glove. Doubtful he did that intentionally, tho. Just bizarre. Dude's probably caught 100,000 pitches if not more.
When you have Catchers moving CLOSER to the Plate to FRAME a " BALL to look like a STRIKE " Prepare to see more of this. He Broke his arm when hit by the bat and when he heals up is going to keep doing this. SO HE SAY'S to try and help his team win.... WTF See a NEW RULE coming soon to all ball parks near you MLB.
The was a rookie or old veteran mistake by placing the arm way forward of the plate...trying to collect on that permanent disability payment Either way, it worked
😯Unfortunate accident but the catcher, as some other fellows have mentioned here, got way too close to the home plate. Now he is going to be out the game for at lest six weeks. 🤕
Well that's on the catchers." Pitch framing" technically isn't a real thing. Back in the day an umpire would toss you out of the game if you tried showing him up.
Wonder what he was thinking just sticking his arm over the plate like that. I dont follow baseball but i am assuming this guy is a pro thats been playing baseball his whole life. So what was he thinking?
His coaches ordered him to do this to increase the chance of using "framing" to fool the home plate umpire into calling an outside pitch a strike instead of a ball.
Why hasn’t there been a line put in place that the catcher can’t cross. Contreras didn’t used to do this but his pitch framing stats were really bad. Every catcher is scooting up to steal strikes because if they don’t they will fall behind the other catchers that do. JUST DRAW A LINE!!!
He is literally trying to snatch the ball out of the air before the batter gets a chance to hit it. Guess he won’t be pulling that BS anymore. He should just set up in front of the batter, halfway to the pitcher’s mound.
Does it really take a PHD to see that if you put your hand over the plate it'll get hit, and probably end your career? Or maybe sitting closer to the plate you'll get hit on the backswing? 🤔🤔🤔 Athletics turning out "GENIUSES " by the boatloads.
@@your.uber.driverr if you watched the broadcast the announcers pointed out that catchers interference is way up this year as they are setting up closer to the plate AND reaching over it to...."Try to steal a strike". That really doesnt seem particularly smart. Just sayin
“On the big backswing” I like how the announcer just made that up
Jesus christ his freaking glove is literally over the middle of the plate. How the hell do you NOT hit that?
How about you face a pitcher that has 4 different pitches all at different speeds
@@Enrese27 I’m not sure what relevance your comment has.
@@Enrese27He meant it's virtually impossible for the batter to not hit the catcher, because of where the catcher was set up. He wasn't talking about the batter hitting the pitch.
@@JimYeatshe is speaking to the fact certain pitchers are hard too catch for. The closer to the plate the shorter the distance. The shorter the distance the less amount the ball call break drop or curve. Thus making less catching errors (dropped, missed balls)
@@zackjay71 “facing” a pitcher wouldn’t be used to describe a catcher catching for the pitcher, but either way, can’t be that close to the plate.
The fact that you can actually see his arm bend when the bat hits it is nuts.
Ya that close up slow motion was nutz
Beautiful
That’s on him, wow during a career year start.
Cardinals coaches told him to move up in the box. Don’t know what the hell they were thinking and should definitely be fired.
@@beauli1928 he had his head busted open on a backswing. When does he tell the idiot coaches to shut up. he and his brother are really good at what they do behind the plate, it's their bat that needs help.
@@Crash88You saying Contreras can't hit?
@@dalethelander3781 gee let me read my comment again, blah blah blah blah nope, learn to read. Didn't say that at all. What I said he doesn't need any help with his defense that IF the coaches want to help to do it with his hitting. Never said he can't but he is not as good of a hitter than he is as a fielder so IF he could use help it's with his bat. He is to inconsistent in that area while his fielding has always been good and steadily betting better. He goes on hot streaks and the cold streaks last longer than the hot ones.
@@Crash88 That's what I meant. As far as his BA, it's up there with Bob Uecker.
JUUUUUUUUUUUUST a bit outside.
I’m sorry announcers, are we watching baseball? What are we talking about “backswing?” That was THE SWING
Uh... because it LOOKS like a backswing? Obviously they're not talking about it literally being called a backswing, because that's a golf term and the way he swings the bat looks like the way a golfer would swing.
Yeah they are probably golf fans but it does paint the picture for listeners. It looks like getting hit during a backswing.
He still caught the ball is what's amazing
Temporarily lol
@@00M6TAto be fair, he dropped the glove before he dropped the ball
Too close to the plate.
Hmmm didn't know people would.
I don't know
Good guess bro. 😂😂😂
No shit
That exactly I said catcher way too close home plate
Yeah ok, but which player ? Because I am confused 😕
Why would an experienced catcher put his arm so deep into the batter’s box?
They want to catch the ball before it breaks so much that it's too difficult to frame. It gives better control of the strike zone if they catch it as close as possible. Not that I agree with it though.
Maybe trying to frame pitches to get the umpire to call them strikes when they were questionable.
The cardinal way
Cards are coaching him to be further up b/c of how bad he is at framing
To get the favorable call before it breaks and is obvious ball
What the heck are they saying "backswing" for? It was the middle of the swing! Contreras was so far up he hit Contreras' arm so far ahead of the pitch the bat wasn't even angled at the ball yet!
Chill out. They corrected themselves once they saw the footage. Not that serious.
They thought it was the backswing initially but after seeing the replay they noticed that it wasn't
Lol they literally made it up and called it a “big backswing” nonetheless and then said it AGAIN during the replay 😂
Homer announcers faulting the other team. This never happens. 😉 @@connorgillispie7128
They still haven't chilled out..@@oaktree1626
Dummy was too close to the plate. Gotta give the batter room to swing.
The coaches told him to move closer. They tried to re teach him the position. It’s on them, and cardinals fans have been saying forever it’s time for new management
@@thecat627 He’s caught for many years. He’s just dumb. Believe me, I know. As a Cubs fan, I watched him play
He had a similar injury when the bat hit him in the back of the head,on the end of a swing 🤔
@@norqosh Yeah, Ian Happ hit him on his back swing last season, I believe. Then Miles Mikolas hit a Cubs hitter and got ejected. Good times.
Definitely catcher interference
If you're going to be stupid you better be strong.
More and more catchers are moving closer to the plate. That's what you get
He was basically under the batter
Hard to watch the replay. Hope he makes a full recovery, but going forward he’s gotta keep his arm outta harms way.
Damn that was brutal
Waiting for the Jomboy to cover this bad boy
@@grantpowell4135Sometimes, you think Jomboy's gonna break something down, and he doesn't.
@dalethelander3781 maybe it was to dark or something idk but maybe they covered it in the weekly video
I broke my left arm twice. Bad memories and pain. In 1st grade i shattered my elbow in pieces, i remember staying up all night on drugs and it felt like a week. It was a living nightmare. Then again in 7th grade i broke my wrist and it was almost sticking out of the skin. When the dr grabbed my arm and pulled the bone back into place it was horrible....😢 👦
That sucks that hurt me
He is a good 3 step too close to the plate😂😂😂 damn that's gotta hurt
It was catcher's interference. Correct call. He was way too far into the box. STL fan btw.
It would ALWAYS be catcher's interference. There is no other possible call that could ever be made. The batter can do anything he wants with his bat to go for a ball.
@@cjr1881 not true.
@@cjr1881Not ALWAYS.
So Jomboy showed that he used to be further back in the box on the cubs and never got hit so St. Louis must be teaching him to do it
@Voidepicgamer exactly. And the coaching in STL is abysmal. They have managed to take some of the best ball players in the league and ruin them. Nolan Arenado is the prime example. No wonder Yadi won't show his face anywhere near this team now
I thought you let the Ball come to you, no need to go get it !
You'd think.
But there's this little thing the Cards want him to get better at called "framing." Trying to fool the umpire into calling a ball a strike.
@@dalethelander3781 Imagine if umps called balls or strikes based on where the ball travels and not on what the catcher is doing with his glove. I get that framing currently works, but it shouldn't.
Get well, Wilson
I am a Cubs fan. Contreras was one of our guys for a long time. He's a good man. Its hard to watch him like that. I hope he's at least pain free ATM.
Hey, get saved.
Read the Gospel of John.
Pray.
@@joetoth5465 People often recommend Romans after John.
Proverbs is good too.
If you aren't saved you should watch a video called the Bible way to Heaven.
@@joetoth5465I would say bible contradictions so you can see the 1000s of examples of the Bible contradicting itself.
@@joetoth5465 check out Austin 3:16, it says I just whooped your ass
@@joetoth5465Can you talk about baseball instead?
MLB catcher routinely get a little too close to the action. You get a large batter with long arms and a long bat and a long swing and you gotta give him some extra space.
He almost snatched that ball before the swing..good try sir......
Yeah that's terrible he obviously had his arm too far into the path of the batter's swing with the batter also probably moved back in the box as an adjustment mid at bat and the catcher didn't notice.
If he stood two feet further behind a plate and gave the hitter room to swing & not stuck his arm out he would not have gotten hit
2 feet 🤣 no. Why comment if youve never been a catcher 😂
He just reached too far thats all
There have been WAYYYY too many instances of catcher’s interference this year. What are guys being taught?! You can frame very well catching it deeper, too
actually being taught to be closer to plate to trick umpires
@@Maxtor-ve5nu Yes, that's what I alluded to, and it's ridiculous - you can do a fantastic job still without this
He's a tad too close by time the batter swings. Lawd you can hear the crack on that swing through.....yikes!! 🤢🤐
Tad too close? Any closer, he would've been on the plate.
Bad coaching through and through. I hope he recovers with no issues
That’s metrics changing the game stealing strikes being closer to the plate. He wasn’t that close to the plate ever as a cub
@@coleneal128I'm a catcher. I know exactly how far back I'm supposed to be. He does as well.
@@farpointgamingdirectCoaches told him to squat up that far.
You know that had to hurt badly. Man he smacked that hand hard with that bat.
I saw this and then another video about a catcher getting hit in the back of the head, when did catchers stop thinking about that bat being swung?
the umpires reaction says it all
god i hope hes okay but he was too close
I EVEN FELT THAT!!!
How many times has this piñata been hit?
Just kidding aside, I wish him a speedy recovery and back to his spot with a big shield 🛡️
I hate to see any player hurt, even on teams I hate
Bone is not poking out, not that bad!
Thats what she said
Now That's a Strike!!
That's a painful way to be reminded not to stick your arm in the batters box. Ouch.
I feel bad that he got hurt but get out of the batters ass and you wont get the shaft
That's what SHE said.
Coaches are telling catchers to move up in the box because it's easier to frame pitches and take away the view from the home plate umpire. Can't blame the hitter on that one.. Hopefully it will be a wake up call for organizations to have their Catchers in the proper position from now on.
Gosh almighty, that’s a different kind of pain
You can literally see his arm get "LONGER" as the bone separates.. That's just brutal... Don't watch it at 0.25x speed....
You KNOW I'll have to do that now.
That's his own fault
I had catcher's interference quite a few times when I played. Never was hit anywhere but my glove though. Take your base. OUCH! That looked bad.
why does contreras always get hurt when mikolas is pitching against the cubs???
This happened to my teammate, but he’s fine because kids in 11u don’t swing that hard
You can hear his wrist snapping.
Everybody rightly pointing out Contreras reached too far with his glove. Doubtful he did that intentionally, tho. Just bizarre. Dude's probably caught 100,000 pitches if not more.
Until the slo-mo, I thought the ball hit his arm.
I remember watching this live and seeing Contreras react the way he did, I knew it was gonna be bad. I hate to see that. Catchers beware.
Lord Have Mercy
0:18 that's the opposite of numb
His glove is at the batters leg
I broke my hand in high school basketball and those injuries suck. Lower arm and wrist are painful.
There seems to be a lot of catcher’s interference recently, at least a lot more than I ever remember since I started watching baseball.
Backswing? That was the actual swing.
William has the same last name as me
*Wilson
@@dalethelander3781 oh thanks for noticing
His brother William would take great care of him
out for the yr?
Supposedly 6-8 weeks if not setbacks/problems
not for a broken arm, no. he will be out probably 2-3 months as long as there is no further damage and as long as he has no setbacks.
When you have Catchers moving CLOSER to the Plate to FRAME a " BALL to look like a STRIKE " Prepare to see more of this. He Broke his arm when hit by the bat and when he heals up is going to keep doing this. SO HE SAY'S to try and help his team win.... WTF See a NEW RULE coming soon to all ball parks near you MLB.
That'll teach him.
The was a rookie or old veteran mistake by placing the arm way forward of the plate...trying to collect on that permanent disability payment
Either way, it worked
He'll be back. And I'm sure his pension is fully vested.
As if things weren’t bad enough for the Cardinals! It just got worse!
Insult to injury.
He caused that all on his own his hand and glove were way out at the front of the plate catcher’s interference was the right call 💯%
Hell yeah move closer to the base. If the batter can not hit the back of the catcher’s head the bat then you are not close enough more closer
🙏🙏🙏
You ok
Hope he learned his lesson.
I’m a cubs fan, sorry to see this. But he has always played too close to the plate.
😯Unfortunate accident but the catcher, as some other fellows have mentioned here, got way too close to the home plate. Now he is going to be out the game for at lest six weeks. 🤕
This is why they need to have the automated strikes on to take stupid stuff like pitch framing out of the game
Well that's on the catchers." Pitch framing" technically isn't a real thing. Back in the day an umpire would toss you out of the game if you tried showing him up.
no
The umpire shouldn't have allowed him to be inside the box like that
Catcher literally are not allowed to be over the plate like that
Maybe it was Angel...
Oof...that's gonna leave a mark.
I was a kid catching a game.umpire told me to move up in the box.and this happened. Fk that umpire.
Announcers don't know what a back swing is . Fire them !
Just missed getting clobbered in the head he got lucky. His glove is almost even with Martinez’s hips when it happened.
New trick in baseball. If you catch it before they can hit it they will never get a hit.
Wonder what he was thinking just sticking his arm over the plate like that. I dont follow baseball but i am assuming this guy is a pro thats been playing baseball his whole life. So what was he thinking?
His coaches ordered him to do this to increase the chance of using "framing" to fool the home plate umpire into calling an outside pitch a strike instead of a ball.
It takes a dedicated person willing to strap on the tool of ignorance.
Tools. Plural.
As the announcer said, “ Catcher interference “…
Why hasn’t there been a line put in place that the catcher can’t cross. Contreras didn’t used to do this but his pitch framing stats were really bad. Every catcher is scooting up to steal strikes because if they don’t they will fall behind the other catchers that do. JUST DRAW A LINE!!!
This guy had catcher interference against the tigers too. He needs to back tf up and I think he will now
Too close to the plate, but at least Contreras didn’t get a double whammy from the pitch.
He should stand in front of the batter.
deserved, hes literally trying to catch the ball before it can be hit
Shit makes me 😭
You’d think you would learn not to do that before making it to the majors.
He should know better than to be that close to the plate
The dude got hit on the head awhile back as well. Might want to back off the plate a little.
I Feel bad for the catcher but.... if your arm is in a spot the bat can demolish it you fucked up.
He was waaaaaay too far forward. 😭
I heard it go CRACK the bone that is, he was in there too much and hitter was Way back too gotta watch for that or this is the result.
He is literally trying to snatch the ball out of the air before the batter gets a chance to hit it. Guess he won’t be pulling that BS anymore. He should just set up in front of the batter, halfway to the pitcher’s mound.
Yikes it looks like he’s going to be out for 10 weeks after surgery
Won’t do that again will he.
Does it really take a PHD to see that if you put your hand over the plate it'll get hit, and probably end your career? Or maybe sitting closer to the plate you'll get hit on the backswing? 🤔🤔🤔 Athletics turning out "GENIUSES " by the boatloads.
it was a mistake geez
@@your.uber.driverr if catchers continue to reach over the plate there will be a lot more mistakes.
@@mikefagan6840 i’m aware, i’m just saying he didn’t do it on purpose and he’s not stupid
@@your.uber.driverr if you watched the broadcast the announcers pointed out that catchers interference is way up this year as they are setting up closer to the plate AND reaching over it to...."Try to steal a strike". That really doesnt seem particularly smart. Just sayin
@@mikefagan6840 why you arguing 😂😭
Interference oooowell
He probably shouldn't have placed his arm in the swing path of the bat. Just sayin...