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Halter Breaking a Foal with Scarlet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Joins us while we introduce Scarlet to a halter. Watch as we show you how I go about halter breaking a colt. I will also talk about some of the do's and don'ts that are most important to me during this important time in a foal's handling. There may or may not also be a tangent taken on Positive and Negative Reinforcement.
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I have watched a lot of videos so I could learn what you are showing and there's nothing like the way you do it ,it's nice and gentle thank you for posting it it's really helpful
thats the calmest 6 month old iv ever seen.
And smallest lol
I noticed that too
Thank you so much for this video! I hope to be getting myself a filly or colt soon, and I have found your channel to be amazingly normative and helpful! I was raised with teachings and trainings very similar to how you teach. You can bet your britches that I'll be spreading a great word about this channel!
Thanks for watching and spreading the word. Much appreciated!
I bought myself a colt two weeks ago and i didnt know how to halter handle till now thank you for the video now ill start working my colt like this 👍👍
I learned something I didn’t know. A blurry blob within 18 - 20”. Wow... great video!
Thanks to your video me and my girlfriend have halter broke a 1yr old filly and a 6month old colt. We have never done any training before this summer.
Night Time Stables, for some reason it isn't letting me reply to your comment directly. First of all, there's something to learn from everyone. Even if you learn something not to do. I am sure as an experienced horse person, your Pap has many valuable lessons to share with you. I sure wouldn't want to venture into giving family advice.
As to your foal, the most important thing that I would worry about is simply getting her comfortable around me and enjoying my company. I can't get a horse to open a gate if they won't first stand BY the gate comfortably. So, I wouldn't try to halter her at all until I could already put my hands all over her and scratch her face/neck/poll. Make friends with her and simple acts will get easier. Scare her and force things on her and she will get harder and harder to deal with and will resent people in general. There is absolutely no rush , do take lots of time getting her on the right path.
Good luck and feel free to ask away!
Daniel Dauphin 15:36. When you say you have seen some really nice horses have neck injuries from being tied to stationary objects. What kind of signs do they show from an injury? Is it similar to wobblers? Did they have xrays showing the injury? Where they still rideable horses? Did they ever change from the injury to worse or better as they age? The reason I ask is I have a WB mare who I rescue 6 years ago, was 150 pounds under weight, stayed in a small paddock in a person's backyard for 2 years and she does have an odd way of walking from the beginning especially how she moved her left hind and it would get worse when she put her head down and walked to eat some grass. Its not really noticeable especially to the untrained eye and when I started ground training getting her slowly really for dressage work. At first we thought it was a stifle problem and had xrays and then we had more xrays on her neck at 6 years old. (After I had her for 18 months) It was confirmed she has a compression on her mid-part of her neck. We did a myogram after which she went through the recovery beautifully and they confirmed she had a compression and diagnose her with wobbles grade 2. They con't confirmed if it was genetic or an injury as a foal. She was born on a breeding farm and I heard not so good things from different sources on the breeder when I started to search for her parents to see if there are other known offspring with this issue. Which through DNA I found the parents and so far no issues from other foals including through the stallion as I am in contact with and has a very good reputation. The breeding farm closed up a few years after my mare was born and moved out of the area. So this poor thing started out in a rough patch for the first 4 years of her life between 2 previous owners. It's a misery of what happen to her as a foal but based on what I found out it's possible she might have been injuried by farm hands or from another mare who might have kicked her as I was told this person put all the mares and foals together in a pasture. Right now she is still stable and you can ride her lightly which is fine and she hardly trips but my hopes for her to have a career are dashed at this point. My family loves her and she is one of the favorites at the barn very sweet and loving. Anyway I look forward to your thoughts and if you know of any videos of horses who had neck injuries as foal and their outcome please send them to me. Thank you
Unfortunately, there is no one answer to this question. The extent of the damage would depend on the specific injury and, of course, injury from tying is only one way for them to get hurt. I saw a foal investigating a gate panic and pull back getting his neck caught in the gate when I was a teenager. It took me 20-30 seconds to get him loose. He walked funny for a few days and then was fine as far as I know. The worst foal neck injury that I'm personally aware of was a stallion that was stepped on by his dam. He'd been x-ray'd and was known to have an arthritic neck but we tried to start him anyway. He was very one sided and bucked like hell so he was sent to breed rather than be ridden as he was a very well bred colt. That horse is actually the sire of my filly, Willow, who is featured in quite a few of our videos. Certainly there can be spinal injuries and fractures and so forth that could be career ending as well. Consulting a competent Vet would be the best course of action. Sorry in your particular case that the injury is more permanent. I've certainly seen loads of 2-3 year olds set back without any injury at all. I'm more concerned about them when they are weaker. Once they are yearlings or 18 months or so, the injury risk would seem to be much, much less.
This was a great video and you touch on concepts that are critical to training older horses and not just foals..... The power of rewarding the slightest try (by negative reinforcement) goes a long long way....
THANK YOU...!! I like your style..!! I am training my first little stud colt....COCO, a little paint.... at the moment and, needless to say, he's not nearly as tranquil as Scarlett but he's only 4 months old and quite the Mama's boy..!! But, we're making progress..!! Again, thanks, you're a good teacher..!! ;D
Well done Scarlet, Well done April, Ok Daniel you get a well done also, but Scarlet was the class of the show!!
you talk to long
@@joeland4297 Twit……that brief enough?
Great video. Thanks for the guidance
Hey, I like your video...... Just curious since you're making these videos to help people learn ❤....& what , I mean, is, you're doing a video....... Most people. They are visual learners. Just. Friendly little reminder. People learn more by watching what you're doing, not from listening. But I do like your videos.
Like try to not lose ur viewers and incorporate more movements in ur reputoir......very well behaved Philly too btw😇
Helpful video....I'm a first time philly owner....
Just found your channel. Nicely done. I like your style. Just subscribed. 😊
Nice job!
we have a foal at our stables called Hugo he is only a yearling and he is so cute he likes to nibble at my ear it's so amazing how they can go from trusting nobody to being an affectionate amazing horse
I certainly would not allow nibbling. That could also develop into dangerous and disrespectful behavior very quickly. Boundaries are very important too.
No its not biting it's like sucking my ear almost he has only like nibbled or bitten by accident or when he's scared he's not a bad horse I trust him to not hurt me :)
he's a good horse and I do trust him I don't care how long everybody's been riding Wether it's been for 2 years or 25 years you have never met my yearling 😫😩
This was very helpful, thank you so much!
Aw she done really good. What a pretty horse and smart.
OK, I'm going to add this and keep in mind that this is not to criticize at all but to offer more detailed information on the subject. And a somewhat different approach to leading.
I believe that leading a horse is the single most important foundation thing any horse person new or experienced, needs to learn. NOT teaching the horse to lead; they already how to be led. They, after all, are herd animals and as such, are natural followers. No, the handler needs to learn how to lead the horse. This is an amazingly simple thing to do that is all too often made complicated by various human issues, not the least of which is anthropomorphizing human behaviors onto a horse. This is also the thing that is most often overlooked in training new people about horses and working with them.
Typically, when leading a foal for the first time, there are a couple of ques that you teach them early on. When I face you, that means STOP, and queue number two is, when I put my hands on you anywhere, that means STAND STILL. Knowing that, why would you give either of those ques to a horse that you are trying to lead someplace? DON’T DO IT! Do not look at the horse; when you look at the horse, you are in effect facing them, which means STOP, look where you are going instead. And NEVER lead with an extended arm. If you do, your arm becomes spring and thus cannot allow the instant release from the tension that is needed to reinforce positive actions.
Standing on the horse's left side with enough slack in the lead to allow freedom of head movement. grasp the lead in your right hand firmly and place that hand on your chest, letting the lead trail over your elbow to the horse. Hold the remainder of the lead in the left hand and if need be, lock that hand on your hip. Then face in the desired direction of movement and apply just a very little tension on the lead basically take up the slack and wait for the horse to respond. They will eventually move toward the tension in an effort to get release. Once you get that first little positive response, wash lather rinse, and repeat until the horse realizes that all they need to do to get release is move in the direction of the tension.
The simplest explanation of leading a horse, ANY horse, is slight, very slight, maintained tension on the lead in the direction of preference, and ALLOW the horse to come toward that tension to get their release on their own, NEVER GIVE THEM THE RELEASE. Let them come to you, thus giving the release to themselves. The release is the reward; but when they realize that they gave themselves that release instead of you GIVING it to them, nothing more is needed. No vocal accolades food treats, or physical contact is necessary. They do not offer anything other than self-affirmation for the one doing the leading.
I have used this technique for over 45 years of my career as a professional horseman and it has never failed me with any horse of any bred sex or age. And I use it to load horses that have never seen trailers and it has never failed me. Even when I have been called in, to load horses that are so agitated from failed attempts that they are almost unmanageable.
Now keep in mind this is not my invention. I can claim no authorship of this technique. This was taught to me by a Bedouin horse master and it was thought to him by another horse master and so on for generations past. The Bedouins approach human-horse interaction differently than most of us do. They see it as a human horse full partnership, not an "I'm the boss and you are the subject one".
They do not use pain, coercion, or rewards of any kind. They simply speak the basic language that horses understand, tension/release. It is just that simple, and this is the foundation for everything else you will ever do with your horse.
Once a horse understands they you speak their language they will go with you anywhere.
I hope this is helpful and when time, health, and energy are available to me, I will periodically share more of this kind of information for any that are interested.
Great video. She's such a little cutie!
Well done
Have a foal thouroghbred just like her . I do the same. Had her follow me on command first and from whistle before ever haltering her.
Loved it. Well done..
I really like that filly!!
I would buy any horse this man deems fit for sale.
What type of hobbles do you recommend?
If you haven’t halter broken her yet, are you just driving her from pen to pen, or how do you move her? And I would also like to request a video on how you halter break an older horse by ponying them from your good horse.
We were just driving her around, though she was typically with older horses and only moved in and out during feeding, so she was pretty easy to deal with. If you go to my website, we have several videos using an older horse in the roundpen to teach a colt to pony and lead by their feet. I will keep that in mind and probably put an abbreviated version of it on TH-cam. Thanks.
Here's my problem -- my 3 month old foal is easy to handle, in fact I put a halter on her while she was lying down -- no problem at all, and she lets me handle her all over. But she will react strongly at the slightest pressure on the halter, even a sideways tug. She does not like to be restrained in the least. Now I haven't put a rope on the halter yet (just been tugging with my hand) and maybe I should, that way I could apply gentle pressure and then release when she reacts to a a front or even side pressure.
In short, although she lets me handle her easily, she is never as calm as Scarlet. What do you think?
joselepepe2 I’d definitely put a rope on there and give her some space. She may freak out at first so be really intentional about the releases of pressure. Likely, she’ll be past that in 5 minutes.
@@DanielDauphin Thanks ... I'm beginning to think it is more that she is just petulant and doesn't like restraint than that she is afraid. I'll put a long strap on her so she can have more room and still be under my control
joselepepe2 then even better to deal with that now than when she’s 1200lbs.
such a pretty girl, would love to see each training session you do with her.
This video is pretty much exactly what i was searching for! I have a completely sound arabian mare who just had a little filly to a quarter horse stallion. She is almost two weeks old now. I want her to be as well trained as her mother (in my profile picture as you can see) but she seems a little more high strung than her. which is totally fine! But i need someone elses help besides my pap. He is your old timer "breaker" for horse training. "Oh just pin her in the run in barn and lasso her and take her to the ground and shove that halter on her." um, no thanks pap!!! i want her to like me thank you very much! I am only 16 17 this july, and the only trainers around my area are ones like my pap. and our horses never end up like my snow baby in the end and they are always jumpy. I started doing a training schedule with her. can i catch her? will she take a rope? and will she pick up her feet. (my pap is a farrier) and she is doing WONDERFUL with her feet. but recently it is getting harder to catch her unless she is in the barn with snow. but once i finally catch her she takes a rope around her neck and hindquarters. she will have NOOOOO part of the halter, and i try not to force it. but i know my pap probably does force it because lately i cant catch her unless in a smaller space. Can you PLEEAAASSSEEEEEE leave some feed back. or even message me about what i should do with her? Him and my aunt are the only horse people in my entire family. and no matter what reading i do or what videos i watch on here. Nothing really seems to work well. I desperately need some help or tips with her. I want her to be like here momma (training wise) but at this rate, she will never be there.... PLEEAASSEEEEE can you help meee :) thank you soooo much!
Hey, have you heard of Clinton Anderson? If not you should definitely check him out. It sounds like you would love the method he uses.
I'm actually passed the foal play now. My baby has enough training to be ridden and she is only a year od
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+NightTime Stables that's awesome. :) glad to hear that.
I can't quite hear what you say around the bit where you say that she threatened to kick you, what did you do to nip that in the bud? I'm just interested to hear how you react to that sort of thing! Cheers!
I get big. I "spook" or jump. I may swat them on the butt if I can reach them. I chase them off abruptly. The important part is that you scare them and interrupt the pattern of" aggression" so that they don't want to do that again. They aren't really being aggressive or dominant at that young age, but they are testing boundaries and seeing what differing behaviors get them. Don't let behaviors that you don't want get them anything good.
I have a new filly and I've been handling her and there is no way you are doing that with her after she has never been handled. Show us what it is really like with a new filly
I explain all about her and her experience with people within the first two minutes. I don’t generally accept homework assignments from people who start out calling me a liar, so have a nice day.
110 percent. Assume.
When she kicked at you, what did you do? With an older horse I would have ran her around until she was tired.
ShinkleGunDog As this was a couple of years ago, I can only tell you what I would do. I've no memory of exactly how that played out. I would handle it exactly like a more dominant horse would. I would have chased her, abruptly, out of my space and would have whacked her on the butt with a rope or something had it been handy. After that, nothing. There's no need to be prolonged or too drastic when correcting a baby like this or for a "first offense" on any horse.
Daniel Dauphin thanks!
how old is this colt? Is it a weanling or is it still on moms side?
She was a weanling.
@@DanielDauphin do you like to do most of the work when there weaned. I have a three month old going on 4 months and she is haltered but still with mom. How much should I expect of her?
@@rebeccastobaugh9592 If you can get her accepting the halter and leading a little around the mother and maybe a little bit away from the dam, then I'd be perfectly happy. When you wean her, I'd give her a few days at least to calm down and settle in, as weaning is pretty stressful and then start working her again. I generally don't tie or do too much with the babies. I want to be able to handle them, trim feet, de-worm, etc. but not much more. I don't lunge circles or anything like that.
@@DanielDauphin She leads a little bit and backs. Allows you to touch legs right now but will not let you pick them up yet. She takes wormer. Just worried I am not doing enough. Then I remind my self she is shy of 4 months old.
My name is scarlet
her croup is so much higher than her withers.