lmao this guy came in for the money and was willing to lie for it and when lawyer started smacking him he realised this is not a game and started choking. what a corrupted clown, sadly he is just one of many in the world...
Take it easy, he's just having to not give to one side or the other without putting his own evaluation upfront. He could say right out yeah the bottle smashed his finger, but he is only able to understand when he treated Johnny for the injury. Plenty of people go to the doctor's for a broken bone or smashed body part and what happens. The patients lie. Oh no, I fell off my dirt bike and the bike came down on my knee. What really happened was you were with your friends and you tried the double back flip and didn't land it. Thats what were seeing here.
Imagine the fact that you're the one who caused the finger of your ex-husband to be cut off and admitting it on tape and then sitting in a court room lying about it. I could never. The thought of lying under this immense pressure and circumstances is just beyond me. Amber doesn't have a soul.
"If he didn't look at the hand, why is he here?" The only question that matters, my guy. Also, let it be noticed that their chief medical witness was someone who has no connection to this case whatsoever. Let it also be noticed that later today they brought in a psychiatrist who *didn't even meet with Depp*. Seems the best medical support Heard's team can get is an educated guess.
Here's the take. The doctor says that its from the door. Depp says its from a bottle thrown by amber. AMBER says its from a non existent wall mounted telephone.
@@abramrexjoaquin7513 the thing is, I think that Johnny is more right, vodka bottles are very hard to break what I think happened was the bottle didn’t break from hitting johnnys hand, it smashed his finger between the thing and that’s what cut it off and broke it then when it hit the ground it shattered. That’s the scenario I have in my head from the details
@@leviuzumaki3903 either it hit the hand with enough force to shatter the finger tip and then shattered on the ground or shattered both on impact ripping away tissue. Either way it’s fkn brutal for sure. The bottle definitely is hard enough to do this damage
I strongly believe determining “the mechanism of injury” is way beyond the scope of a orthopaedic surgeon and disgusting he was allowed to testify as an expert to such. His scope as a surgeon is purely based on diagnosis related to medical records. I don’t get why this was allowed into his testimony.
Hes probably not even a surgeon anymore and was most likely never any good. Now he just uses his degree as a way to lie as an expert witness for easy cash. Dude is a hack and always will be.
Mechanism of injury is extremely important in determining appropriate care. That said, the dude is a clown and he was obviously either lying or just ignorant beyond belief.
Not just a musician, a guitar player. And not just that, it’s his life passion. He said years ago he could live without acting or money, but not without his guitar.
Yeah he plays guitar and has been playing for years and playing a guitar isnt easy, do they really think that a person who has passion for playing guitar would cut his finger off?
holy shit camille is good. she completely invalidated his "expertise" because when he explained why it couldn't be the bottle he described the hand position unlike what was in the testimony and she caught it.
she set it up perfectly and ended it flawlessly...made him look like he came to a rash conclusion without key/crucial testimony regarding the evidence used in the scenario for Johnny's finger..
But that means that any Doctor or anyone with a PhD cannot give an expert opinion on a patient they didn’t treat. He’s going off doctors notes and his own observation. You’re saying that the doctors notes aren’t enough for him to make a reasonable comparison
@@koojoe1178 fair point. But can we truly take him at his word when he wasn't even shown the photographs of the scene in which the incident happened? He was unaware of these pictures, where the finger tip was found and he even mistakenly described Depp's hand as being "flat" on the counter when the bottle hit it... Seems like he didn't have the 'full picture', so to speak. I'm not too sure what to make of his opinion on the matter to be honest
@@AmeliaFDG i think that’s why we can take him at his word. that’s the information he received. his testimony wasn’t wrong just outdated. if anything it just makes ah team look like crap for not briefing him on new evidence and asking for an updated opinion.
There's an audio recording when all this went down in Australia. Heard is hysterical. She says multiple times I'm sorry. She wants to go to the hospital to see depp and Johnny's people are telling her he wants he to leave. His doctor and nurse are there among others. They give her medication to calm her down. AH is saying she can't leave because if she leaves it'll be over. She knew if she didn't stay to make nice he was done with her. They won't allow the audio in evidence as there are people other than JD and AH on it.
@@nicholasadamson2103 yess! I watched his channel 3 years ago! He unraveled many of her lies! Detailed videos, and HOURS of audio not allowed in this trial…
she sits there knowing she cut his finger off. I have injuries my ex caused to this day and she would deny it ever happened or blame it on me because I did something wrong like not follow her rules. This trial has brought up so much emotion in me.
As a fellow physician, this guy is pretty sus. No way he could be so certain as to "rule" out the mechanism of injury. If he had stuck with "I find it unlikely", he'd probably be okay
@@stephendavis6066 Yes, I get that. Thing is, that saying stuff you know not to be true in your capacity as a physician, is unethical. The Dr. can get his bag, but this testimony makes him seem untrustworthy.
I find it hard to believe that he can rule out the mechanism of injury since he admitted that he didn’t reconstruct the events. Reconstructing them would’ve held more weight to the opinion in my eyes.
@@paytonyoder1260 I agree. The idea of "ruling out" an otherwise plausible mechanism of injury based on a disagreement between the "photographed" injury pattern and the "described" mechanism is a pretty gray area. I just can't justify the level of certainty he's expressing over such a nuanced topic. Especially when he *never examined the patient.* I can't stress how important that is. Most doctors I know would never even opine until they saw the patient and examined them. For instance, when you see movie/tv doctors look at the body of someone with a gunshot wound, and they examine the "bullet hole" and immediately come up with "9mm handgun" or something similar....that's Hollywood. It's nowhere near that cut and dry. In fact, pathologists will tell you that even after careful physical examination (which the witness did not do), they are rarely confident enough to get specific based on the wound alone. If they find the bullet, then that's different. That's the giant red flag. He "ruled out" a plausible mechanism based on photos and (second hand) Johnny's inexpert description of the details of how it happened. I'm not buying his testimony AT ALL.
Yes and he deserves it, if your a doctor and decide to lie in oath in order to receive an income, there should be consequences to your action, everyone that is in amber side are biased and deserve to have thr life ruin, these people deserve every single hate they get if they are willing to help a woman who wrongly accused of a man beating her up, let the hate begin, I hope they lose their career 😉
Watching Camille do a cross exam is like watching John Wick kill people because they killed a dog. Satisfying as all hell. At least the doctor took the L like a gentleman 😂😂😂
Don't have what'sapp. I know people are going to think I'm being deceptive, but there are countless recordings I've listened to. All I can say is I'll try to find it... And I'll admit it's a possibility I misheard it. Like I said I'll check.
My brother is taking a law class in high school. The teacher, and quite a few other teachers who teach law at schools connected to that school, showed the cross examination of heard, and said Camille was a perfect example of a great lawyer.
The doctor described a completely different scenario to what Depp had described. Depp said his hand was on the edge with his fingers going over the ledge and that the bottle came at an angle pinching his finger between the edge of the table and the bottle. The doctor is describing situation where the hand is flat on the table and a bottle falls from directly above.
He's going off of injuries he's seen rather than physics. his version of how the wound should look like makes it seem like shards of glass act like very precise knives. Basically, "i've never seen an injury like this in this specific case thats been caused any other way besides what i've seen that should have caused it" type of deal which seems like a very far reach from ambers lawyers. At this point it's like they are trying to prove the bottle didn't sever His finger instead of proving that Amber didn't.
I’m honestly amazed this testimony is even allowed. He wasn’t there, he never saw the injuries first hand, he never treated Johnny, and he clearly gets the facts wrong about what actually happened. It’s crazy this was even allowed to stand. It was just another weak character assassination attempt by Ambers team, that backfired again.
@@pingu3146 expert witnesses make this kind of assessment all the time. It's not always possible to get a doctor present when the injury was being treated.
There's audio of heard admitting she did it. unfortunately the jury can't hear it because it's not admissable. Probably won't help this expert's reputation though, that there's proof out there Depp told the truth.
The cut happened during the product of one of the pirates movie and a musician phase. Why would someone who has work just cut off his own finger all of a sudden when they need their hand to do said work.
Okay as someone who has a degree in forensic science, I do get what he’s saying when he’s saying in regards to the bottle and mannerisms. There are certain characteristics that specific things will cause. The weapon may be a vodka bottle, but the injury that occurred may look like something that happened with a knife, bottle, or a club. But using patterns that knives and clubs leave against the injury that doesn’t match what a bottle leaves specifically is how you would determine what kind of weapon was used such as the club and vodka bottle would leave identical injuries, but one would likely leave glass behind or a pattern on the bottle (like groves in the bottom) may cause additional injury. I don’t know who this guy is, but if he’s a forensics witness he should be knowledgeable enough to know what DIDNT cause the injury and what is MOST LIKELY to have caused the injury. Pinpointing which weapon, specifically, made the injury beyond that could be difficult or challenging depending. He’s using language that is confusing and he’s not explaining it in a way that makes sense.. which tells me he’s either shit at his job or he has no knowledge about forensics and is a joke. Which comes as no surprise since it’s someone obviously skewed towards amber. Edit: apparently he’s a physician. Not forensics expert. Explains why he’s bad at this. Edit 2: watching further on, it’s clear this physician is a whole joke. Knowing there WERE broken bottles.. yeah. My initial point stands.
its very obvious the finger was smashed off, the glass didnt shatter on the hand. go put your hand on something and see if the tip of the middle finger is longer, then imagine a hard object smashing right on the fingers and the tip being slightly below the countertop and the force smashed it into the bar and his fingertip is severed, very probable
@@McSquizz maybe not, all im saying is he is using johnnys testimony about broken glass and ignoring other parts when he should have considered the bottle smashing after and brute force severed it, but its like her other experts they sold out for money
True, you can't say definitively that his hand injury was caused by a knife, the vodka bottle, or a door. But you can look at the totality of the evidence (including the broken glass and blood around the bar area as well as audio recordings at the time) to reasonably conclude the incident happened as Mr. Depp stated.
That would not be an answer from his professional qualifications, that's the whole point of why he is standing ground on his testimony (but also why it's not relevant at all, like this witness is basically useless for this kind of questions and yet AH team is pushing the idea that he is relevant)
a karen? in court this behavior is "good" outside a courtroom she would be a bitchy cunty karen. imagine some woman interrupting you going HEY this is my time to talk. that wasn't my question you will only answer my questions. lol
@@johnnyblaze10 work and life are two different things bro lol you really think she’d waste time on a bum that has to sneak out at night?😂😂 it’s like saying imagine having Meagan fox as a girl friend, YOU WOULDNT😂
This “professional” is dead wrong! I have family member who have severely damaged their fingers, one being severed. His testimony is garbage! In addition, the next witness… I truly believe one of his patients has him locked in the trunk of a car, put his clothes on and posed as a Doctor! This 2nd witness is bat shit crazy!!! Off the wall nuts!
Yes! Fingers are delicate. It doesn't take much to sever them if you are working with heavy machinery, or even just heavy inventory. I have two family members who almost severed their fingers in stupid knife accidents. My father trying to cut down a candlestick base, and an aunt showing off her new sharpener. And neither if those has any extra mass or momentum behind them.
I'm a former triage nurse in a lvl 1 trauma center, I agree. JDs injuries are absolutely possible and I've seen it happen. Also, Dr. Doofenshmirtz is just scary.
Admittedly I had never watched a court case before this (and wasn't in one myself) aside from movies, but I always expected an actual lawyer to be like Camille. It's weird to read she's actually awesome and not common ground (congrats to her though in this case)
It’s amazing how all these expert witnesses never had to see, meet, or analyze JD to give their “expert opinions.” I feel like it’s a court room filled with clowns 🤡
It’s like all her expert witnesses took the job while they giddily sat in their office chairs thinking “I’m going to meet Johnny Depp! I’m goin to meet Johnny Depp!” Lol
And now think of every situation where „experts“ , who get thousands dollars an hour testifying for WHO, CDC, NatO, Eu commissions … that is the scary part …
The swamp is being drained. these people coming out like this and destroying their careers is good for everyone. No one would have to suffer because of these fools at least anymore
@@frostmagemarii She’s been practicing Law for about 10 years now so she’s in that sweet spot where this trial is the perfect way to show her talent to the world 🙂
I mean the case is pretty much a slam dunk, I wouldn’t say she’s really doing by better than any of the other lawyers on the team. They all have great evidence to work with and are all doing a pretty evenly good job, I think a lot of people are giving her the most praise because she’s been the primary one cross examining.
This doctor is right the finger wasn't sliced off it was crushed off. What he has established is that Amber threw that bottle at such great force that it pinched the tip of Johnny's finger off not cutting it off then the bottle still had enough energy after ricocheting off of Jonny's finger and counter to then be broken by the next hard object it impacted against. This all happened within milliseconds so Johnny's hand may have been in motion as he flinched seeing the bottle flying at him so his hand may not have been exactly in the position he said it was in. It takes a little bit of time for the pain receptors to read message that the nervous systems sends them, so the sound of breaking glass and the feeling of pain are nearly instantaneous tricking the mind into thinking the finger was sliced off instead of crushed off. Whether the finger was crushed off or sliced off is irrelevant. Johnny and Amber where in a room together where she threw a bottle at him that caused him to lose the tip of his finger.
@@nicolaihelberg2994 She must be secretly a quarter bacl from hell, ive had my fingers and mainly my thumb smashed between a semi axle and a stud and didnt lose the tip of my thumb, and my fingers were mildly crushed by a rear drive axle gear assembly falling into place and still ha e my fingers intact. It had to have been sliced off because unless she threw that bottle harder and faster than some of the fastest baseball pitchers, its almost guaranteed that it wasnt simply just a crush lol
@@xenogengas9693 I get what you're saying, but a crush injury manifests in many different ways. As I stated in my previous comment, I was thinking it was a crush injury, based on the fact that the image of the finger (I have only seen one, which might not be definitive) because it looked to me like the tip had split, rather than been cut off. I'm not suggesting the tip flew off on account of blunt force, but that it was crushed so hard the finger "split" open, leaving the nail intact.
@@nicolaihelberg2994 I saw the xrays, and shit dude, ive had finger smashes from hell suffered loss of a fingernail at worst. She threw the hardest vodka bottle in the world lmao, it busted after it came into contact with the bar after it smashed the tip of his finger. It has been more thoroughly explained and i see whats happened with both the doctors explanation and my own experiences. Shits crazy.
@@xenogengas9693 I agree that this shit is crazy, and again, it was my first thought considering the doctor testifying. If there are Xrays, and aswell yourself as a more learned person in the manner of these kinds of injuries, I wil not contest. At all :) My point, and hope is simply that JD gets out of this shit, and keeps on producing amazing content as and actor, and that the populace finally opens their eyes as to the fact that there might be a lot more to a claim than meets the eye! This is not fact checking, but do you have any links as to images considering the injury? Xrays or not :)
If this guy had just said "well yeah *technically* I can't rule out the possibility of a bottle damaging his finger" it would've seen like Depp's lawyer was too focused on the possibility and not the likelihood of what happened But he was so keen on either phrasing it differently or just not admit that he couldn't rule it out that he ended up making it sound like he wanted to hide it lol
The end of his finger caught between a stone bar and a hard bottle flung with force would cause a "crush" injury. This guy is being paid specifically to dispute the cause given by Depp. His job is to deny it, regardless of what evidence is available to show where and how it occured. His job is to cast doubt on Depp's explanation. Hopefully the jury is wise enough to see through this.
I've seen guys get amputations from crushing pressure (hammers, pinch points, hatches closing on peoples hands). This definitely isn't a crushing pressure. It definitely looks like it was cut.
@@toddydog3 I've been in the ER. I've seen plenty of crush type injuries. I've seen amputations, I've seen the shock and internal injuries from large crush (pinning the body), I've seen smaller crush injuries as well. A crush injury covers a wide range of injuries. It comes from a force "crushing" a body part or entire body between 2 objects. That's all. The tip of Depp's finger was amputated, the distal bone fragmented. What you see now is a scarred fingertip from surgical reattachment. Side note, one of the most interesting crush injuries that came in, involved the index finger, the skin and much of the muscle had been completely "shucked" but was still attached and hanging from the base of the finger. No broken bones in the finger or hand, and he was still able to move the boney part. It was pretty cool, from a medical standpoint. Really tough guy, he thought it was cool too. Excellent orthopedic surgeon performed a great job, he kept the finger and eventually recovered fully; with a gnarly scar. -When the finger was pinned between 2 extremely heavy pieces of equipment, he jerked his hand away, this causing this type injury.
THIS STATEMENT SAYS IT ALL!!!! THAT IS WHY THIS TRIAL IS HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE TRUEST STATEMENT amber TURD EVER SPOKE. LOVE JOHNNY AND HIS TEAM AND SUPERWOMEN CAMILLE. EVERY ABUSED PERSON NEEDS HER IN THEIR CORNER. Susan
“Well. I told them. They cheer when I leave this courthouse, they leap for joy when my lawyer questions things, and they wait with baited breath, hoping that the jury unanimously sided with me. They believe, I guess.”
@@samakiraroyjanssen6326 after 4 years of torment and the equivalent of a public execution, no thanks to the metoo culture letting Amber have free reign over every words she has spoken.
These 'professional experts' honestly don't seem like they should be used in court. Every expert they've had on is incredibly biased towards the party that hired him or her. This is making it very clear why money can win in even some of the most obvious law suits. This is all a massively corrupt waste of money and I hate our legal system now.
I HOPE THEY ALL GET JAILED ON PERJURY CHARGES. I hit a bowl on the counter edge by accident, and the bowl BOUNCED , broke and it sliced half of my hand almost off. The surgeon couldn't believe it. But it was absolutely TRUE.
thats the thing with round objects they are not easy to predict so to say that it would be unlikely is ridicules. its based on physics quite belivable that a drunk person that had as stated by the british bloke around 1-2 wine bottles a day throws something in a weird manner and the fact that the bottle most likely was not empty impacts the trajectory alot and the fact its round makes it fucking bounce easier and then glass shatters diffrently all the fucking time only the same way if you pre heat certain areas and make sure it shatters were you want it to will it shatter the same way. then a wittness that was most likely high and drunk not remebering exaktly how he moved his hand when his wife throws a bottle at him is also not a fucking stretch what i do find unlikely is that a creative and passionate guy that paints, plays guitar and acts would damage his own finger. if he wanted to make something worse that would be belivable he could have gone for like anyother body part that was less important to him and his passions...
Do they realize that once again Amber's own witness contradicts her statements? She said that Johnny's fingertip got cut off from smashing the phone. Strange how nobody asked about the possibility of that version of events.
Damn! I absolutely love Camille. She's on fire and one of the best lawyers I've ever witnessed. She destroyed *Peter Griffin* guy and he'll be thinking about this for a long time to come.
yep thats what happens when you pay someone to tell your opinion they just come out of it looking like a fool, how long till we have a family guy sketch where peter is this expertwitness
“Mr. Depp’s finger” being repeated in relation to where it was found is kinda damaging. The jury has to imagine a finger just laying around a house somewhere. Lol
This is what “conventional intelligence” looks like- it can be so dangerous so that these kinds of people get away with so much injustices due to their “already given reputation.” Good on JD’s team to call him out on his baseless/ biased analysis. 🥂🍾🍾
My grandma had cancer and one doctor said it was stage 4 lung cancer. He was basically telling her to get ready to die and all that stuff. She went to a different doctor and he said it was like between stage 1 and 2 so wtf
@@Crimsonwhocares Oh, dear. I had no idea that I had gotten this reply. I would like to say that I am indeed high; however, I would also re-read the comment if I were you as it bluntly states that their "already gotten reputation" is the need to re-think conventional intelligence altogether.
@@existenceisrelative Oh, I hope I have not upset you actually. If it makes you feel better, I am a doctor, and one thing I have learned sticks with me until this day- immigrants can be frowned upon, and when my dad came to America to work, he was insulted often; however, one doctor was the very reason to why I choose to remain humble. No, my dad does not have the standardized degree; however, he was able to still get so much done. This doctor saw an opportunity to take me down (as he was known to being competitive), so he talked down to my father because of his accent, but my father was able to teach him a lesson -intellectually, of course- and now even, we are good friends now. I hope this clears a lot.
Camille is the type of woman I think about when people say someone is a strong woman. Professional yet savage. Good looking and vicious. She'll be a judge in no time if that's the route she wants to take.
@@damjanmladic9327 Depends on your aspirations in life. Not everybody feels the need to infinitely grow their wealth. I don't know about her, but lawyers aspiring to become judges is not unheard of.
@@ChiiBomb Male lawyers who look unkempt or nervous are taken less seriously, maintaining a professional appearance, being attractive as a man or woman, has an impact that can be acknowledged
@@deepblack2193 can't use that as evidence because it was an audio recorded by someone who has died, and can't confirm the validity of the audio. Or maybe you mean another audio?
Amber has zero shame. I would be eaten alive with guilt and shame if I lied under oath. She just really doesn’t care at all and that’s scary. So many things are against her and she just keeps playing victim. People like her are exactly why I have trust issues.
My opinion is that the hand was gripping the edge with a natural grasp where some fingers not touching the surface, meaning raised fingers. This would make it such that, if the bottle came from an off angle, clipping the one fingertip. The bottle followed through with it's momentum and then hit a surface and shatter like an "explosion". I think the expert took the "explosion" a little too seriously and assumed it would create secondary injuries...what if the bottle exploded away from the hand? We know if the bottle hit the hand at the angle described first it would be deflected and then hit a surface hard enough to shatter the glass. It's not like JD's fingertip made the bottle explode on initial impact, otherwise we'd have a much different and shorter case about JD basically having explosive touch superpowers.
This should basically tell you how much power money has. These doctors that Amber found basically will say anything for her/make up lies/testify to things that they have no understanding or actual experience with because she pays them a ton of money. This guy didn't even examine JD's finger and can make up a conclusion on his medical situation.
This "expert" witness had no connection to anything regarding Johnny's injury. He didn't even watch Johnny's visual illustration properly 🤦 his bias was clearly evident. But thank you Team Turd, keep burning your last hours with futility. It is SO SATISFYING!
Hi Asmon ☺️ sorry I don't have WhatsApp! Sorry also if I sounded offensive, I'm just so invested in this witch burn-- I mean trial. PLEASE DON'T BAN ME ❤️
Wtf, any police officer or EMT could recognize that a knife slice is clean, a car door is crush injury and that what happened to Johnny has unique aspects. It is pure speculation that it is a folding door or that they even fought in an accordion door. Who would put their fingers in the hinges instead of using the center pulls?
When the witnesses are really sure of themselves they all look at the jury to explain their answer but when Camille and wade got to these witnesses they no longer were confident in their answers they would not look at the jury and I hope they see that also. JUSTICE FOR JOHHNY DEPP
Well her team is dragging these "experts" in court who don't know JD, so to me everything they say is biased and subject to being ripped apart by Camille!
I LOVE THIS WOMAN! She is a fantastic lawyer. Ambers lawyers suck! This "expert witness" doesn't make a bit of sense. Just because he went to school doesn't mean he is a good Dr. Wouldn't the huge heavy bottle hitting his finger on the bar be two opposing surfaces like he is talking about. I don't think this guy wants to admit he was wrong originally.
@@dorsia6938 I agree Ambers lawyers are good at what they do, but the facts go against them every single time. They are so desperately clutching at straws now.
The argument is not if a bottle can cause a crush injury. The argument is that a bottle causing a crush injury would damage the nail bed as well. If the finger was sideways on the bar, then the nail wouldn't be between the bar and the bottle, but the testimony states the palm was faceing down, which puts the nail between the bottle and the bar. That's the problem with the situation, and why the doctor doesn't believe the stated cause of injury.
The way she gets through lies and gets to the truth. Camille would be the nightmare mom of any Teenager. "I swear mom, I was back home at 11pm." "Alright, let's go through the logs."
There was far more to the finger getting cut off than was covered. Johnny did not immediately cover the finger and rush to the hospital. He reportedly became very agitated after the injury and could have caused additional damage thus masking the ability to forensically determine what caused the initial injury.
This Doctor really made me mad. He lied in court. He kept saying the bottle couldn't have done that and during the examination for Heard he kept saying it couldn't have happened the way Johnny described. He said it was a pinch injury and not a bottle, but the whole time he never considered the trajectory of the bottle. He kept saying it came from the top and that was impossible. A large glass bottle flying fast and hitting his finger between the wooden bar and the large bottle is a crush injury. So, this doctor absolutely lied in court.
The tape clearly has amber admitting she did this. Threw the bottle and injured her new husband by maiming him. They made this doctor background more impressive than it actually is. The doctor is still being paid to be here. He’s bias. My ex husband was medical director of a large hospital in Washington state . This surgeon stated in his description that his decision based on “what is expected.” There are always freak accidents. My ex also ran a residency program prior to being a medical director . I’m not in the medical field . However, I do know most doctors doing this kind of work (which is to make money from testimony) are beholden to the person paying them . Also, many types of surgeons do a lot of hand surgery in training . Such as Plastic surgeons. Although he’s well trained it doesn’t mean he’s a good medical forensic surgeon. I don’t believe him .
camille is like the character in a show or movie that shows up whenever the main characters need her the most, she comes in, and absolutely destroys anybody on the stand edit: like this comment if you think that Camille is the best DPS
They keep bringing these "professionals" who aren't involved in the incident and purely forming their own opinion on picked evidence and not every evidence. They didn't even see JD or his injuries in personal lmao
The main point they’re trying to make is “johnny cut his on finger, and it wasn’t because amber throw a bottle at him” but even the expert said himself “it’s impossible for me to know what cut it his finger”
@@deusvult725 That is the literal definition of an expert witness. They are the only sort of witness who are permitted to give an 'opinion' rather than a factual testimony. Whether you agree with the value of expert witnesses or not, they are an integral part of the American legal system and have been for a very long time. That said, because they are allowed to give an opinion, they are obligated to give an honest opinion. If they get caught out giving a less than honest opinion they face criminal charges and are permanently barred from working in their expert field.
@@aptom203 But they're not reviewing every evidence that's related to the incident. This guy didn't even bothered reading the deposition of the people who was present in the said incident.
If in the hypothetical scenario that JD was lying, that would make Amber's lies all the more weird. She told the court that he smashed his finger off with a phone, but the acting coach in her deposition said Amber told her he smashed it off with a bottle. So if JD was in fact lying, why would Amber also lie? Doesn't make any sense. She can be heard in audio recording's apologising, there was Ben King's testimony about Amber saying "do you ever just completely lose it at someone". There is also Whitney's testimony in Jennifer Howell's declaration that Amber told Whitney she cut off JD's finger. All the evidence suggests she cut off his finger. This one expert witness's account is not really credible because: 1) He wasn't there. 2) His opinion is based purely on how JD described, which, because JD is not a doctor, may have described it in a way that is not completely how it happened. The doctor testifies his hand was flat and that JD said the glass shattered and smashed his finger, whereas it is known that his fingers were over the bench, and the impact of the bottle is likely to have caused the crush, not the glass shattering itself. Also not to mention it was found in the bar, there were broken bottles, and there was blood everywhere. Doesn't add up. Came for an easy paycheck.
I was wondering how his finger got cut off but after hearing this doctor trying to deny the vodka bottle it makes perfect sense. His finger was hanging over the edge of the bar and she threw a bottle hard at his hand trying to destroy his ability to play guitar and only got one finger instead. She is evil.
I'm not convinced she was trying to injure his guitar hand. That's a hard throw and she really wanted to hurt him, but she's a bad aim. She would have been as happy, or happier if she had hit his head or face that hard. She really is a crazy bitch. Johnny was weak and not responsive enough because alcoholics, deep down, feel helpless and somehow deserving of abuse when it comes flying at them. He was conditioned by his brutal mother and his traumatic childhood. Johnny, you're crazy talented and a good man. Love yourself and go have the peaceful life you deserve. It's time to stop punishing yourself. Be as good to yourself as you are to your beautiful children.
I doubt that was her aim, she probably just wanted to hurt him. I imagine it smashed on contact or hit next to his hand then sliced. Evil fucker nonetheless, reminds me of my stepmum. The abuse, lying, all of it lol.
Get real rofl there's no way she was intentionally trying to destroy his hand. She was having a fit and lobbing bottles in his general direction and striked gold.
I always had a negative impression of prosecutors because the media always portrays them as being against antagonistic towards victims but now I see that they are necessary in order to weed out the liars and make sure actual justice is achieved.
Prosecutors are also typically the government paid attorney against suspects of crime. They aren’t usually getting paid the massive bucko bucks their counterparts, the private defense attorneys, make.
@@mattcrawford9633 No, they are prosecutors. The plaintiff is the person who sues the other. Johnny Depp is the plaintiff. Amber Heard is the defendant and her team is the Defense.
@@Dragon_Lair prosecutors work for the government prosecuting crimes. In civil court there are no prosecutors, there are plaintiffs and plantiff's attorneys and the defense. If you don't believe me, its fine. Serves me right for commenting on the internet.
Having no medical recordings (no evidence for an abuse) but paying a doctor (who has nothing to do with johnny) to lie in court....yep, that makes sense to me 😂😂
you dont get it... everyone is lying about amber, its all this master plot by the paitriarchy to bring this innocent woman down! like have her ex partner accuse her of DV before she meets her husband and then have her accuse him of DV and for him to ¨set the record straight¨ its a plot all his witnesses lie, the medical journals forged, smear campaings online against her and so on... couldnt be that the only liar is amber who lied to her friends as well... nah not that
I love how EVERYONE on Turd's team refuses to just answer Camille's questions as stated. They keep trying to give detail that wasn't asked for and getting angry when they're cut off or stricken from the record lmfao.
It’s almost painfully unfair how much better Depp’s lawyers are 🤣… it starting to legit feel like an NFL caliber talent vs some amateur “after work and for fun” league 🤣… then comes Rottenborn to mess it up extra lol
AH's lawyers are less skilled, to be sure, but they were also fed incorrect and incomplete information, and needed to remain zealous advocates in spite of not having a case. It's easy to extract an internally consistent picture when you start with truth. It's much more difficult to remain internally consistent when you start with lies.
Tbf I also think it's just hard to make a play with Amber's case because of how crap she is. Another commentator I watch speculates that some of the dumber line of questioning they do is due to amber demanding it of them.
@@Slann_ted didn't she have a different team of attorneys before this trial too? That dropped the case and she had to hire new ones?swear I heard that earlier in the trial
@@Deathstar0wannabe … yeah it’s true. Their reason for dropping it was the distance to travel to Virginia out of LA was a problem but I’m sure they just knew it was a hot mess from the start 🤣
This Entire Defense hinges on sowing distrust on a man, who was drunk at the time, not remembering his exact hand placement a moment before serious trauma.
Your commentary has brought be suck pleasure. I am new to your channel and loving it. Your funny and logical. Thank you for doing this and bring a smile to my face daily!!!! Thanks Jenn
I worked in the medical field for over 15 years and have an associate degree in pre-med + a bachelor’s degree worth of courses studied at various times while raising 4 children. I can tell you that an orthopedic surgeon is for the reconstruction of injured joints. Not trauma to tissue around a joint. He is NOT a plastic surgeon. This doctor would have had no knowledge of what the severed area of the tissue looked like after the injury and can only testify to the condition of the joint via X-rays. This to me is a bunch of money bagging BS!
Ha! This Camille is my jam. She straight up slapped this man. Johnny's case is evidence, ambers is hearsay. Not even saying Johnny is a good or great dude, just that he didn't beat her.
anyone else notice literally every one of AH witnesses that are on the stand immediately go on the offensive when JD’s team has them go “off script” or as their team calls it, testimony?
Just wait until the next witness comes up! The only thing he's contributed is wasting AH's team's precious time. 4 hours and he's still going. This guy thinks that talking more means smarter.
i literally broke my leg by falling over while stationary. people thought i was lying because of how bad the break was. it’s wild what small things can do and
I broke my foot when getting out of bed. I didn't fall, I just put my food down weird and it twisted to the side. I didn't even know it was broken, it just hurt for a while but I thought I just sprained it since I could still walk and move the foot normally. Next day it started swelling and after going to the doctor they put it in the cast. Also broke my arm right above the elbow while arm wrestling about two years ago. I had a really long operation because the bone literally shattered into dozens of smaller pieces and they had to take all of them out through the shoulder, a cast for a 2 weeks, and then when they took it out the arm muscles were literally frozen solid and my arm was perpetually locked into a 90 degree angle. It would literally just hang in that position without any support at all, as if something invisible was holding it. So yeah... I was extremely freaked out when the doctor told me he never saw something this bad happen after just 2 weeks in a cast and had no idea how much this can be rehabilitated. But, fortunately after a year of extensive rehabilitation every single day, my arm is like brand new and the only thing I can no longer do is wash my back with my right arm, just doesn't bend that far anymore. In the words of the physician who helped rehabilitate me "I got lucky I can use it for anything more than measuring 90 degree angles". So yeah, it's scary how easy it is to break your body by doing seemingly innocent things.
Moore was ready to Cry. And Speigal headed str8 to the restroom after Ethics came up. I'd love to be in the jury here! But wouldn't want to miss your faces we seem to make together 😂
Amber’s and her lawyer’s head swing as the look back and forth between the witness and Mr. Rottenborn, is hilarious. Like two crows or owls in synch. Haha 😂 23:39
So let me get this straight, they are getting experts out to explain to us how Depp's finger couldn't have been destroyed by the bottle? Please can we see an expert come in on behalf of Depp and talk about how being battered around the face for hours by someone that wears chunky rings couldn't leave you with... just one cheekbone bruise?
They could find some idiot off the street that could tell them that. When I saw Heard’s injuries and later heard her testimony I was just perplexed. How that amount of attacks by Depp just barely did damage. There wasn’t even inflammation. Anyone would get inflammation after that amount of abuse, and it would show the next day. Look at Chris Brown attack on Rihanna. She didn’t look as pretty as Amber did and her face had a lot of inflammation because of the punches by Brown.
We know that glass bottles don't break that easy. We also know that if a glass bottle was smashed against someone that the likelihood of causing moderate to severe lacerations is high. If a *handle* of vodka, especially if it had any fluid in it, was thrown and smacked johnny directly on his finger and then shattered, would that not cause both blunt damage and have a high probability to sever such a thin appendage? How does that *not* line up with the method of injury at all?
@@queenieqt2033 As Camille, would say, that's not the question. If all these unknowns affect whether it could be a vodka bottle, then with the knowledge we do currently have, it could be a vodka bottle. That's what it means for it to be consistent. If it were inconsistent, that would mean that current known factors could rule it out. But they can't. If we say "this was caused by a vodka bottle", doing so creates no inconsistencies.
1 the injury initiated from the side of the palm of his hand as seen by the damaged tissue. 2 the shattered bone was exactly on the point where the cut was, which is physically impossible in the scenario you're describing. 3 not mentioned by the doctor, but most of the energy from a bottle fracturing goes into the impact and fractures. It is already unlikely that a shard from a fractured, hand-thrown bottle has enough remaining energy to cut through the bone of a finger.
Dude, them saying he cut his finger off is like saying oh she fell down the stairs. NEVER would they speak this way about a woman's injury if abu$e was involved.
As an ER nurse, there is no way i could rule out things he says he ruled out by sight.. That's why we ask patients what happened when they come in. We ask people they were with. If we don't believe it's true by the look of the wound, counsil and tests are made.. But you can't just look at a wound and say "oh by the look, this is what happened".. That is bs..
lmao this guy came in for the money and was willing to lie for it and when lawyer started smacking him he realised this is not a game and started choking. what a corrupted clown, sadly he is just one of many in the world...
Even looks like what a clown would look like in person form 😆 straight rat.
🤡carb up dr 🐷
Next amber witness must be nervous when Camille ask a question..
Yep willing to ruin someone’s life for a paycheck. Don’t feel sorry for him at all.
Take it easy, he's just having to not give to one side or the other without putting his own evaluation upfront. He could say right out yeah the bottle smashed his finger, but he is only able to understand when he treated Johnny for the injury. Plenty of people go to the doctor's for a broken bone or smashed body part and what happens. The patients lie. Oh no, I fell off my dirt bike and the bike came down on my knee. What really happened was you were with your friends and you tried the double back flip and didn't land it. Thats what were seeing here.
Imagine the fact that you're the one who caused the finger of your ex-husband to be cut off and admitting it on tape and then sitting in a court room lying about it. I could never. The thought of lying under this immense pressure and circumstances is just beyond me. Amber doesn't have a soul.
I just wish the jury could hear the audio. To make decisions based off half truths and lies is no justice.
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That's the problem with narcissists. They really believe they can get over on anyone, and get away with anything! At least they'll try to
They don’t seem to use the bible anymore. Just as well it would have gone on fire with all these people who are Lying under oath
People like Amber have no empathy. They only live by the rule me, me, me and I.
They went from trying to prove abuse towards Amber to just trying to disprove all allegations made against her.
That's how you know they've lost
You mean disprove all allegations FROM her 😉
Literally
@@SolDizZo Hey, shes right on one of those! Her own lawyers are incompetent xD
Thats all they have left after removing all the hearsay
"If he didn't look at the hand, why is he here?" The only question that matters, my guy. Also, let it be noticed that their chief medical witness was someone who has no connection to this case whatsoever. Let it also be noticed that later today they brought in a psychiatrist who *didn't even meet with Depp*. Seems the best medical support Heard's team can get is an educated guess.
Here's the take. The doctor says that its from the door. Depp says its from a bottle thrown by amber. AMBER says its from a non existent wall mounted telephone.
@@abramrexjoaquin7513 the thing is, I think that Johnny is more right, vodka bottles are very hard to break what I think happened was the bottle didn’t break from hitting johnnys hand, it smashed his finger between the thing and that’s what cut it off and broke it then when it hit the ground it shattered. That’s the scenario I have in my head from the details
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@@leviuzumaki3903 Levi Uz you are spot on
@@leviuzumaki3903 either it hit the hand with enough force to shatter the finger tip and then shattered on the ground or shattered both on impact ripping away tissue. Either way it’s fkn brutal for sure. The bottle definitely is hard enough to do this damage
I strongly believe determining “the mechanism of injury” is way beyond the scope of a orthopaedic surgeon and disgusting he was allowed to testify as an expert to such. His scope as a surgeon is purely based on diagnosis related to medical records. I don’t get why this was allowed into his testimony.
because he didn't have all the information and towards the end Camille clarifies exactly what happened.
Exactly!
Hes probably not even a surgeon anymore and was most likely never any good. Now he just uses his degree as a way to lie as an expert witness for easy cash. Dude is a hack and always will be.
Mechanism of injury is extremely important in determining appropriate care. That said, the dude is a clown and he was obviously either lying or just ignorant beyond belief.
Depp is a musician. A musician cutting his finger just for fun, to me, seems so ridicolous.
you don't really have to be a musician for that to be ridiculous lol
@@spongebobswindow7472 lmao true. Literally any sane person doing so would be ridiculous
A musician absolutely NEEDS their fingers
Not just a musician, a guitar player. And not just that, it’s his life passion. He said years ago he could live without acting or money, but not without his guitar.
Yeah he plays guitar and has been playing for years and playing a guitar isnt easy, do they really think that a person who has passion for playing guitar would cut his finger off?
holy shit camille is good. she completely invalidated his "expertise" because when he explained why it couldn't be the bottle he described the hand position unlike what was in the testimony and she caught it.
she set it up perfectly and ended it flawlessly...made him look like he came to a rash conclusion without key/crucial testimony regarding the evidence used in the scenario for Johnny's finger..
She also set up grounds that make the jury believe he has a reason to lie to the court (ie money)
It doesn't matter how many bloody qualifications this DR has,no matter how many surgeries he's performed he did NOT examine or operate on JD hand
But that means that any Doctor or anyone with a PhD cannot give an expert opinion on a patient they didn’t treat. He’s going off doctors notes and his own observation. You’re saying that the doctors notes aren’t enough for him to make a reasonable comparison
@@koojoe1178 agreed. There is definitely an issue (read: deceit), but the fact he is not the operating doctor is not it.
@@koojoe1178 fair point. But can we truly take him at his word when he wasn't even shown the photographs of the scene in which the incident happened? He was unaware of these pictures, where the finger tip was found and he even mistakenly described Depp's hand as being "flat" on the counter when the bottle hit it... Seems like he didn't have the 'full picture', so to speak.
I'm not too sure what to make of his opinion on the matter to be honest
@@AmeliaFDG i think that’s why we can take him at his word. that’s the information he received. his testimony wasn’t wrong just outdated. if anything it just makes ah team look like crap for not briefing him on new evidence and asking for an updated opinion.
@@pedrino321 why would they ask for an updated opinion if it’s possible that the new information would turn against them
There's an audio recording when all this went down in Australia. Heard is hysterical. She says multiple times I'm sorry. She wants to go to the hospital to see depp and Johnny's people are telling her he wants he to leave.
His doctor and nurse are there among others. They give her medication to calm her down. AH is saying she can't leave because if she leaves it'll be over. She knew if she didn't stay to make nice he was done with her.
They won't allow the audio in evidence as there are people other than JD and
AH on it.
ThatUmbrellaGuy has all of the audio recordings on his channel, including the one you’re talking about in case anyone wants to listen to them.
I watched a really good version on a channel called "incredibly average". He has many great videos from years ago. He was way ahead of the curve.
@@nicholasadamson2103 yess! I watched his channel 3 years ago! He unraveled many of her lies! Detailed videos, and HOURS of audio not allowed in this trial…
she sits there knowing she cut his finger off. I have injuries my ex caused to this day and she would deny it ever happened or blame it on me because I did something wrong like not follow her rules. This trial has brought up so much emotion in me.
Sorry that happened 🖤
As a fellow physician, this guy is pretty sus. No way he could be so certain as to "rule" out the mechanism of injury. If he had stuck with "I find it unlikely", he'd probably be okay
But he needed to say that to pick up his check.....don't confuse him with onsite information....
@@stephendavis6066 Yes, I get that. Thing is, that saying stuff you know not to be true in your capacity as a physician, is unethical.
The Dr. can get his bag, but this testimony makes him seem untrustworthy.
I find it hard to believe that he can rule out the mechanism of injury since he admitted that he didn’t reconstruct the events. Reconstructing them would’ve held more weight to the opinion in my eyes.
@@paytonyoder1260 I agree. The idea of "ruling out" an otherwise plausible mechanism of injury based on a disagreement between the "photographed" injury pattern and the "described" mechanism is a pretty gray area. I just can't justify the level of certainty he's expressing over such a nuanced topic. Especially when he *never examined the patient.* I can't stress how important that is. Most doctors I know would never even opine until they saw the patient and examined them.
For instance, when you see movie/tv doctors look at the body of someone with a gunshot wound, and they examine the "bullet hole" and immediately come up with "9mm handgun" or something similar....that's Hollywood. It's nowhere near that cut and dry. In fact, pathologists will tell you that even after careful physical examination (which the witness did not do), they are rarely confident enough to get specific based on the wound alone. If they find the bullet, then that's different.
That's the giant red flag. He "ruled out" a plausible mechanism based on photos and (second hand) Johnny's inexpert description of the details of how it happened. I'm not buying his testimony AT ALL.
@@bandit6272 Thank you!!! I knew there was something more to consider here!!
She’s making this doctor look so incompetent! This could hurt his career! I bet he is nervous!
Something tells me its Amber who used her persuasion to get him on the stand.
Loves to poop hates to wipe.
@@powerhouse884 The evidence amber team had is giving buffs after buffs to her, shes pretty op now kek
He saw $$ signs...He made $5,000 a day just to show up and testify...wow...I am in the wrong profession....lol
Yes and he deserves it, if your a doctor and decide to lie in oath in order to receive an income, there should be consequences to your action, everyone that is in amber side are biased and deserve to have thr life ruin, these people deserve every single hate they get if they are willing to help a woman who wrongly accused of a man beating her up, let the hate begin, I hope they lose their career 😉
Amber's lawyers, every. damn. video:
*OBJECTION YOUR HONOR, the witness is almost telling the truth.*
Objection your honor there calling out our inconsistency
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Yes it's so obvious what is happening. But thats with more things these days. You just need to check in on the actual information thats all XD
Objection, this is devastating to my case!
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Watching Camille do a cross exam is like watching John Wick kill people because they killed a dog. Satisfying as all hell. At least the doctor took the L like a gentleman 😂😂😂
For such a smart guy, he was stupid enough to let his entire character and credibility get thoroughly impeached. All he had to do was tell the truth…
There's a recording of JD telling AH, "You cut off my finger". She never denied it. Just too much evidence to prove JD's side of the story.
Why didn’t this lawyer bring up the audio with this dr? She showed him the scene photos only
Don't have what'sapp. I know people are going to think I'm being deceptive, but there are countless recordings I've listened to. All I can say is I'll try to find it... And I'll admit it's a possibility I misheard it. Like I said I'll check.
Camille is a godsend for Johnny’s case. I don’t think he could’ve made a better choice
My brother is taking a law class in high school. The teacher, and quite a few other teachers who teach law at schools connected to that school, showed the cross examination of heard, and said Camille was a perfect example of a great lawyer.
She is an extension of himself on this case. He chose someone that would represent him the way he wishes he could. And it's beautiful.
@@powerhouse884 bro you literally just need to get out more
@@powerhouse884 and this guys is what happens when you don't touch grass
All his lawyer team is amazing.
The doctor described a completely different scenario to what Depp had described. Depp said his hand was on the edge with his fingers going over the ledge and that the bottle came at an angle pinching his finger between the edge of the table and the bottle. The doctor is describing situation where the hand is flat on the table and a bottle falls from directly above.
He's going off of injuries he's seen rather than physics. his version of how the wound should look like makes it seem like shards of glass act like very precise knives. Basically, "i've never seen an injury like this in this specific case thats been caused any other way besides what i've seen that should have caused it" type of deal which seems like a very far reach from ambers lawyers. At this point it's like they are trying to prove the bottle didn't sever His finger instead of proving that Amber didn't.
I’m honestly amazed this testimony is even allowed. He wasn’t there, he never saw the injuries first hand, he never treated Johnny, and he clearly gets the facts wrong about what actually happened. It’s crazy this was even allowed to stand. It was just another weak character assassination attempt by Ambers team, that backfired again.
@@pingu3146 expert witnesses make this kind of assessment all the time. It's not always possible to get a doctor present when the injury was being treated.
There's audio of heard admitting she did it. unfortunately the jury can't hear it because it's not admissable. Probably won't help this expert's reputation though, that there's proof out there Depp told the truth.
The cut happened during the product of one of the pirates movie and a musician phase. Why would someone who has work just cut off his own finger all of a sudden when they need their hand to do said work.
Okay as someone who has a degree in forensic science, I do get what he’s saying when he’s saying in regards to the bottle and mannerisms. There are certain characteristics that specific things will cause. The weapon may be a vodka bottle, but the injury that occurred may look like something that happened with a knife, bottle, or a club. But using patterns that knives and clubs leave against the injury that doesn’t match what a bottle leaves specifically is how you would determine what kind of weapon was used such as the club and vodka bottle would leave identical injuries, but one would likely leave glass behind or a pattern on the bottle (like groves in the bottom) may cause additional injury.
I don’t know who this guy is, but if he’s a forensics witness he should be knowledgeable enough to know what DIDNT cause the injury and what is MOST LIKELY to have caused the injury. Pinpointing which weapon, specifically, made the injury beyond that could be difficult or challenging depending.
He’s using language that is confusing and he’s not explaining it in a way that makes sense.. which tells me he’s either shit at his job or he has no knowledge about forensics and is a joke. Which comes as no surprise since it’s someone obviously skewed towards amber.
Edit: apparently he’s a physician. Not forensics expert. Explains why he’s bad at this.
Edit 2: watching further on, it’s clear this physician is a whole joke. Knowing there WERE broken bottles.. yeah. My initial point stands.
Homeboy is here to collect a paycheck, not to tell it how it is. Dr. Less is an embarrassment to medical professionals.
its very obvious the finger was smashed off, the glass didnt shatter on the hand. go put your hand on something and see if the tip of the middle finger is longer, then imagine a hard object smashing right on the fingers and the tip being slightly below the countertop and the force smashed it into the bar and his fingertip is severed, very probable
@@IsaacMSingleton1 uh yeah don’t think you read my comment correct.
@@McSquizz maybe not, all im saying is he is using johnnys testimony about broken glass and ignoring other parts when he should have considered the bottle smashing after and brute force severed it, but its like her other experts they sold out for money
True, you can't say definitively that his hand injury was caused by a knife, the vodka bottle, or a door. But you can look at the totality of the evidence (including the broken glass and blood around the bar area as well as audio recordings at the time) to reasonably conclude the incident happened as Mr. Depp stated.
That would not be an answer from his professional qualifications, that's the whole point of why he is standing ground on his testimony (but also why it's not relevant at all, like this witness is basically useless for this kind of questions and yet AH team is pushing the idea that he is relevant)
camille is the woman every girl should want to be. This lawyer is a goddamn nightmare
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a karen? in court this behavior is "good" outside a courtroom she would be a bitchy cunty karen. imagine some woman interrupting you going HEY this is my time to talk. that wasn't my question you will only answer my questions. lol
@@johnnyblaze10 work and life are two different things bro lol you really think she’d waste time on a bum that has to sneak out at night?😂😂 it’s like saying imagine having Meagan fox as a girl friend, YOU WOULDNT😂
@@orozoos if I had a woman like her I wouldn't want to go out with the bois anyway lol
Imagine if her husband lie's to her
This “professional” is dead wrong! I have family member who have severely damaged their fingers, one being severed. His testimony is garbage! In addition, the next witness… I truly believe one of his patients has him locked in the trunk of a car, put his clothes on and posed as a Doctor! This 2nd witness is bat shit crazy!!! Off the wall nuts!
Yes! Fingers are delicate. It doesn't take much to sever them if you are working with heavy machinery, or even just heavy inventory.
I have two family members who almost severed their fingers in stupid knife accidents. My father trying to cut down a candlestick base, and an aunt showing off her new sharpener. And neither if those has any extra mass or momentum behind them.
I'm a former triage nurse in a lvl 1 trauma center, I agree. JDs injuries are absolutely possible and I've seen it happen.
Also, Dr. Doofenshmirtz is just scary.
@@HellenaHanbasquet woah! I bet you have some crazy stories about "yeah this weird thing happened and..."
I have a feeling we will be seeing Johnny's legal team on more high profile cases in the future. They have been absolutely incredible.
@The Stranger I wouldn't say being a lawyer Kosovo is something to brag about, as much as I like Ben, it's no England..
I just love every little grin and head turn from Johnny! I could watch him for hours even with his head down most of the time
Admittedly I had never watched a court case before this (and wasn't in one myself) aside from movies, but I always expected an actual lawyer to be like Camille. It's weird to read she's actually awesome and not common ground (congrats to her though in this case)
It’s amazing how all these expert witnesses never had to see, meet, or analyze JD to give their “expert opinions.” I feel like it’s a court room filled with clowns 🤡
It’s like all her expert witnesses took the job while they giddily sat in their office chairs thinking “I’m going to meet Johnny Depp! I’m goin to meet Johnny Depp!” Lol
And now think of every situation where „experts“ , who get thousands dollars an hour testifying for WHO, CDC, NatO, Eu commissions … that is the scary part …
It's Heard's legal team scrambling for any scraps of something that benefits her case but it's failing spectacularly
The swamp is being drained. these people coming out like this and destroying their careers is good for everyone. No one would have to suffer because of these fools at least anymore
I love camille. This woman deserves all the money, and especially the praise, shes getting from this trial.
Not sure where she is in her career right now.. but no matter where she is, she's going places after this.
@@frostmagemarii She’s been practicing Law for about 10 years now so she’s in that sweet spot where this trial is the perfect way to show her talent to the world 🙂
She deserves to be made Partner at her firm
If ever she wants a fat British guy to treat her like a queen, then I'm waiting.
I mean the case is pretty much a slam dunk, I wouldn’t say she’s really doing by better than any of the other lawyers on the team. They all have great evidence to work with and are all doing a pretty evenly good job, I think a lot of people are giving her the most praise because she’s been the primary one cross examining.
At this point this is like an entertaining reality show and Asmon makes it enjoyable to watch
It was already entertaining
Asmon is just the cherry on top
Lol exactly, I'm hooked
shoutout to my fellow twitch chatters for all the memes and making this even funnier.
I'm in lunch time and I'm going through this shit
Totally agree lol
This doctor is right the finger wasn't sliced off it was crushed off. What he has established is that Amber threw that bottle at such great force that it pinched the tip of Johnny's finger off not cutting it off then the bottle still had enough energy after ricocheting off of Jonny's finger and counter to then be broken by the next hard object it impacted against.
This all happened within milliseconds so Johnny's hand may have been in motion as he flinched seeing the bottle flying at him so his hand may not have been exactly in the position he said it was in. It takes a little bit of time for the pain receptors to read message that the nervous systems sends them, so the sound of breaking glass and the feeling of pain are nearly instantaneous tricking the mind into thinking the finger was sliced off instead of crushed off.
Whether the finger was crushed off or sliced off is irrelevant. Johnny and Amber where in a room together where she threw a bottle at him that caused him to lose the tip of his finger.
TY! I was thinking the same, but saw no comments about this!
@@nicolaihelberg2994 She must be secretly a quarter bacl from hell, ive had my fingers and mainly my thumb smashed between a semi axle and a stud and didnt lose the tip of my thumb, and my fingers were mildly crushed by a rear drive axle gear assembly falling into place and still ha e my fingers intact. It had to have been sliced off because unless she threw that bottle harder and faster than some of the fastest baseball pitchers, its almost guaranteed that it wasnt simply just a crush lol
@@xenogengas9693 I get what you're saying, but a crush injury manifests in many different ways.
As I stated in my previous comment, I was thinking it was a crush injury, based on the fact that the image of the finger (I have only seen one, which might not be definitive) because it looked to me like the tip had split, rather than been cut off. I'm not suggesting the tip flew off on account of blunt force, but that it was crushed so hard the finger "split" open, leaving the nail intact.
@@nicolaihelberg2994 I saw the xrays, and shit dude, ive had finger smashes from hell suffered loss of a fingernail at worst. She threw the hardest vodka bottle in the world lmao, it busted after it came into contact with the bar after it smashed the tip of his finger. It has been more thoroughly explained and i see whats happened with both the doctors explanation and my own experiences. Shits crazy.
@@xenogengas9693 I agree that this shit is crazy, and again, it was my first thought considering the doctor testifying. If there are Xrays, and aswell yourself as a more learned person in the manner of these kinds of injuries, I wil not contest. At all :)
My point, and hope is simply that JD gets out of this shit, and keeps on producing amazing content as and actor, and that the populace finally opens their eyes as to the fact that there might be a lot more to a claim than meets the eye!
This is not fact checking, but do you have any links as to images considering the injury? Xrays or not :)
If this guy had just said "well yeah *technically* I can't rule out the possibility of a bottle damaging his finger" it would've seen like Depp's lawyer was too focused on the possibility and not the likelihood of what happened
But he was so keen on either phrasing it differently or just not admit that he couldn't rule it out that he ended up making it sound like he wanted to hide it lol
The end of his finger caught between a stone bar and a hard bottle flung with force would cause a "crush" injury. This guy is being paid specifically to dispute the cause given by Depp. His job is to deny it, regardless of what evidence is available to show where and how it occured. His job is to cast doubt on Depp's explanation. Hopefully the jury is wise enough to see through this.
I've seen guys get amputations from crushing pressure (hammers, pinch points, hatches closing on peoples hands). This definitely isn't a crushing pressure. It definitely looks like it was cut.
@@toddydog3 I've been in the ER. I've seen plenty of crush type injuries. I've seen amputations, I've seen the shock and internal injuries from large crush (pinning the body), I've seen smaller crush injuries as well. A crush injury covers a wide range of injuries. It comes from a force "crushing" a body part or entire body between 2 objects. That's all. The tip of Depp's finger was amputated, the distal bone fragmented. What you see now is a scarred fingertip from surgical reattachment.
Side note, one of the most interesting crush injuries that came in, involved the index finger, the skin and much of the muscle had been completely "shucked" but was still attached and hanging from the base of the finger. No broken bones in the finger or hand, and he was still able to move the boney part. It was pretty cool, from a medical standpoint. Really tough guy, he thought it was cool too. Excellent orthopedic surgeon performed a great job, he kept the finger and eventually recovered fully; with a gnarly scar.
-When the finger was pinned between 2 extremely heavy pieces of equipment, he jerked his hand away, this causing this type injury.
"Tell the world, Johnny, tell them, 'Johnny Depp, I, a man, I'm a victim too of domestic violence'. And see how many people believe or side with you"
That backfired on her pretty bad...and I LOVE IT.
@@__-fi6xg I know. I am so happy he did!!
THIS STATEMENT SAYS IT ALL!!!! THAT IS WHY THIS TRIAL IS HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE TRUEST STATEMENT amber TURD EVER SPOKE. LOVE JOHNNY AND HIS TEAM AND SUPERWOMEN CAMILLE. EVERY ABUSED PERSON NEEDS HER IN THEIR CORNER. Susan
“Well. I told them. They cheer when I leave this courthouse, they leap for joy when my lawyer questions things, and they wait with baited breath, hoping that the jury unanimously sided with me. They believe, I guess.”
@@samakiraroyjanssen6326 after 4 years of torment and the equivalent of a public execution, no thanks to the metoo culture letting Amber have free reign over every words she has spoken.
The build up to the final display of evidence from Depp’s team was masterful. Completely invalidated his crushed finger theory, I’m really impressed
Camille with another home run
These 'professional experts' honestly don't seem like they should be used in court. Every expert they've had on is incredibly biased towards the party that hired him or her. This is making it very clear why money can win in even some of the most obvious law suits. This is all a massively corrupt waste of money and I hate our legal system now.
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Look at Johnny’s face when he was describing how he got injured 😂😂😂
I HOPE THEY ALL GET JAILED ON PERJURY CHARGES.
I hit a bowl on the counter edge by accident, and the bowl BOUNCED , broke and it sliced half of my hand almost off. The surgeon couldn't believe it. But it was absolutely TRUE.
thats the thing with round objects they are not easy to predict so to say that it would be unlikely is ridicules. its based on physics quite belivable that a drunk person that had as stated by the british bloke around 1-2 wine bottles a day throws something in a weird manner and the fact that the bottle most likely was not empty impacts the trajectory alot and the fact its round makes it fucking bounce easier and then glass shatters diffrently all the fucking time only the same way if you pre heat certain areas and make sure it shatters were you want it to will it shatter the same way. then a wittness that was most likely high and drunk not remebering exaktly how he moved his hand when his wife throws a bottle at him is also not a fucking stretch what i do find unlikely is that a creative and passionate guy that paints, plays guitar and acts would damage his own finger. if he wanted to make something worse that would be belivable he could have gone for like anyother body part that was less important to him and his passions...
Jesus hope you’re alright
Nobody will have anything happen. Wake up.
Do they realize that once again Amber's own witness contradicts her statements? She said that Johnny's fingertip got cut off from smashing the phone. Strange how nobody asked about the possibility of that version of events.
Damn! I absolutely love Camille. She's on fire and one of the best lawyers I've ever witnessed. She destroyed *Peter Griffin* guy and he'll be thinking about this for a long time to come.
Peter Griffin...!? 🤣🤣🤣
yep thats what happens when you pay someone to tell your opinion they just come out of it looking like a fool, how long till we have a family guy sketch where peter is this expertwitness
@@EHH848 Yeah I was laughing too.. ha ha. Dr Peter Griffin
@@zouminlandau6753 Do you think he's Amber Heard? *About the bird*
*Teehee* “Peter Griffin”
“Mr. Depp’s finger” being repeated in relation to where it was found is kinda damaging. The jury has to imagine a finger just laying around a house somewhere. Lol
Imagine having performed thousands of hand surgeries and being so wrong thinking that someone didn't get their finger cut off they way it actually did
This is what “conventional intelligence” looks like- it can be so dangerous so that these kinds of people get away with so much injustices due to their “already given reputation.” Good on JD’s team to call him out on his baseless/ biased analysis. 🥂🍾🍾
My grandma had cancer and one doctor said it was stage 4 lung cancer. He was basically telling her to get ready to die and all that stuff. She went to a different doctor and he said it was like between stage 1 and 2 so wtf
Are you high? What conventional intelligence did the doctor use?
@@Crimsonwhocares to me it sounds like alice got bad grades once and has been saying "book learning isn't everything" ever since.
@@Crimsonwhocares Oh, dear. I had no idea that I had gotten this reply. I would like to say that I am indeed high; however, I would also re-read the comment if I were you as it bluntly states that their "already gotten reputation" is the need to re-think conventional intelligence altogether.
@@existenceisrelative Oh, I hope I have not upset you actually. If it makes you feel better, I am a doctor, and one thing I have learned sticks with me until this day- immigrants can be frowned upon, and when my dad came to America to work, he was insulted often; however, one doctor was the very reason to why I choose to remain humble. No, my dad does not have the standardized degree; however, he was able to still get so much done. This doctor saw an opportunity to take me down (as he was known to being competitive), so he talked down to my father because of his accent, but my father was able to teach him a lesson -intellectually, of course- and now even, we are good friends now. I hope this clears a lot.
Camille is the type of woman I think about when people say someone is a strong woman. Professional yet savage. Good looking and vicious. She'll be a judge in no time if that's the route she wants to take.
Judges don’t get the lawyer money … she stays where she is because after this she will be flooded with clients …
@@damjanmladic9327 Depends on your aspirations in life. Not everybody feels the need to infinitely grow their wealth. I don't know about her, but lawyers aspiring to become judges is not unheard of.
@@ChiiBomb Male lawyers who look unkempt or nervous are taken less seriously, maintaining a professional appearance, being attractive as a man or woman, has an impact that can be acknowledged
Hopefully she stays away from being a judge, and sticks to doing good.
@@ChiiBomb People are allowed to find women attractive. You can't stop it, and should really quit trying.
She is the master of always getting the truth out of anyone. Nobody can lie in front of Camille, and not face her judgement.
She's a force to be reckoned with and that's a FACT!!!
But she should have mentioned the audio where amber didn’t deny cutting the finger when accused by jd why she only show the scene pics?
Damn Camille is good … I would want her on my side
@@deepblack2193 can't use that as evidence because it was an audio recorded by someone who has died, and can't confirm the validity of the audio. Or maybe you mean another audio?
If she has/ever has kids then god rest their souls, never gonna get away with anything
Amber has zero shame. I would be eaten alive with guilt and shame if I lied under oath. She just really doesn’t care at all and that’s scary. So many things are against her and she just keeps playing victim. People like her are exactly why I have trust issues.
My opinion is that the hand was gripping the edge with a natural grasp where some fingers not touching the surface, meaning raised fingers. This would make it such that, if the bottle came from an off angle, clipping the one fingertip. The bottle followed through with it's momentum and then hit a surface and shatter like an "explosion". I think the expert took the "explosion" a little too seriously and assumed it would create secondary injuries...what if the bottle exploded away from the hand? We know if the bottle hit the hand at the angle described first it would be deflected and then hit a surface hard enough to shatter the glass. It's not like JD's fingertip made the bottle explode on initial impact, otherwise we'd have a much different and shorter case about JD basically having explosive touch superpowers.
This should basically tell you how much power money has. These doctors that Amber found basically will say anything for her/make up lies/testify to things that they have no understanding or actual experience with because she pays them a ton of money. This guy didn't even examine JD's finger and can make up a conclusion on his medical situation.
I hope she actually paid them and not pledged to pay them. She's kinda questionable in that area.
@@faith2xxx she uses "pledge" and "pay" interchangeably.
@@razzamatronic9882 lol thanks for the chuckle!
Yeah, she's pledging part of the 7million JD gave her in the divorce.
Said some layman after watching a fucking TH-cam video...
This "expert" witness had no connection to anything regarding Johnny's injury. He didn't even watch Johnny's visual illustration properly 🤦 his bias was clearly evident. But thank you Team Turd, keep burning your last hours with futility. It is SO SATISFYING!
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What are his credentials?????
@@MaverSta I hope you know that is a bot that messaged you and not asmongold.
@@MaverSta bruh ur kidding right
guys guys guys I know! I'm just polite to everyone/thing, unless it's Amber Turd 😘
If I get sued and find out Camille is their lawyer I might just save time and just say I did it.
Lol true 😂
I said something similar, and then I scrolled down and here you are!🤣 Great minds think alike
Same here 😁
Ah 😂🤣😂🤣😭😭
😂 absolutely 💯
Wtf, any police officer or EMT could recognize that a knife slice is clean, a car door is crush injury and that what happened to Johnny has unique aspects. It is pure speculation that it is a folding door or that they even fought in an accordion door. Who would put their fingers in the hinges instead of using the center pulls?
When the witnesses are really sure of themselves they all look at the jury to explain their answer but when Camille and wade got to these witnesses they no longer were confident in their answers they would not look at the jury and I hope they see that also. JUSTICE FOR JOHHNY DEPP
these witnesses are getting shredded by Johnny Depp’s attorneys 😂
We should nickname her Ace Attorney at this point. She's earned it lol.
Well her team is dragging these "experts" in court who don't know JD, so to me everything they say is biased and subject to being ripped apart by Camille!
I LOVE THIS WOMAN! She is a fantastic lawyer. Ambers lawyers suck! This "expert witness" doesn't make a bit of sense. Just because he went to school doesn't mean he is a good Dr. Wouldn't the huge heavy bottle hitting his finger on the bar be two opposing surfaces like he is talking about. I don't think this guy wants to admit he was wrong originally.
I don't think its the lawyers that suck, its the lack of a case they have. Its like trying to feed a family with crumbs at the bottom of a chip bag
That's a pretty foolish take, Amber's lawyers are undoubtedly very good at their professions.
@@dorsia6938 I agree Ambers lawyers are good at what they do, but the facts go against them every single time. They are so desperately clutching at straws now.
They don’t suck, they have a shit client that lies and give some fake information.
The argument is not if a bottle can cause a crush injury. The argument is that a bottle causing a crush injury would damage the nail bed as well.
If the finger was sideways on the bar, then the nail wouldn't be between the bar and the bottle, but the testimony states the palm was faceing down, which puts the nail between the bottle and the bar.
That's the problem with the situation, and why the doctor doesn't believe the stated cause of injury.
A professional nurse states that the injury would have been a jagged edge bottle that hit is finger at speed ...this guy is full of BS
“Professional nurse” as opposed to what… a “nurse”..?
@@linac5804 maybe Registered Nurse is what they meant, or they could just mean seasoned nurse.
The way she gets through lies and gets to the truth. Camille would be the nightmare mom of any Teenager.
"I swear mom, I was back home at 11pm."
"Alright, let's go through the logs."
There was far more to the finger getting cut off than was covered. Johnny did not immediately cover the finger and rush to the hospital. He reportedly became very agitated after the injury and could have caused additional damage thus masking the ability to forensically determine what caused the initial injury.
Ambers team: Objection!
Judge: on what grounds?
Ambers team: the witness is going off script.
I'm glad they picked this guy apart.
Because the doctor is making up claims that Amber didn't cause the injury with proof saying otherwise.
I CANNOT watch the trial without your commentary , your videos are addictive .❤️
same here can't watch this trial raw like that...its just too much crap...
This Doctor really made me mad. He lied in court. He kept saying the bottle couldn't have done that and during the examination for Heard he kept saying it couldn't have happened the way Johnny described. He said it was a pinch injury and not a bottle, but the whole time he never considered the trajectory of the bottle. He kept saying it came from the top and that was impossible. A large glass bottle flying fast and hitting his finger between the wooden bar and the large bottle is a crush injury. So, this doctor absolutely lied in court.
The tape clearly has amber admitting she did this. Threw the bottle and injured her new husband by maiming him. They made this doctor background more impressive than it actually is. The doctor is still being paid to be here. He’s bias. My ex husband was medical director of a large hospital in Washington state . This surgeon stated in his description that his decision based on “what is expected.” There are always freak accidents.
My ex also ran a residency program prior to being a medical director .
I’m not in the medical field . However, I do know most doctors doing this kind of work (which is to make money from testimony) are beholden to the person paying them . Also, many types of surgeons do a lot of hand surgery in training . Such as Plastic surgeons. Although he’s well trained it doesn’t mean he’s a good medical forensic surgeon. I don’t believe him .
camille is like the character in a show or movie that shows up whenever the main characters need her the most, she comes in, and absolutely destroys anybody on the stand
edit: like this comment if you think that Camille is the best DPS
Like herlock sholmes.
She's the kind of lawyer who makes people want to become lawyers.
Best dps AND cc
I really wish that she would win this case for johnny he deserves justice in every way possible
Camille is the piano in jojo part5
So they brought this expert to prove what? How does this help her case. Still no proof of abuse against her.
They're trying to make him look bad is all. Thankfully nothing will ever top Amber's worst performance ever.
They keep bringing these "professionals" who aren't involved in the incident and purely forming their own opinion on picked evidence and not every evidence. They didn't even see JD or his injuries in personal lmao
The main point they’re trying to make is “johnny cut his on finger, and it wasn’t because amber throw a bottle at him” but even the expert said himself “it’s impossible for me to know what cut it his finger”
@@deusvult725 That is the literal definition of an expert witness. They are the only sort of witness who are permitted to give an 'opinion' rather than a factual testimony. Whether you agree with the value of expert witnesses or not, they are an integral part of the American legal system and have been for a very long time.
That said, because they are allowed to give an opinion, they are obligated to give an honest opinion. If they get caught out giving a less than honest opinion they face criminal charges and are permanently barred from working in their expert field.
@@aptom203 But they're not reviewing every evidence that's related to the incident. This guy didn't even bothered reading the deposition of the people who was present in the said incident.
Camille needs her own show with Dr. Curry: Cruel detectives 🤣😅
If in the hypothetical scenario that JD was lying, that would make Amber's lies all the more weird.
She told the court that he smashed his finger off with a phone, but the acting coach in her deposition said Amber told her he smashed it off with a bottle.
So if JD was in fact lying, why would Amber also lie? Doesn't make any sense.
She can be heard in audio recording's apologising, there was Ben King's testimony about Amber saying "do you ever just completely lose it at someone". There is also Whitney's testimony in Jennifer Howell's declaration that Amber told Whitney she cut off JD's finger.
All the evidence suggests she cut off his finger. This one expert witness's account is not really credible because:
1) He wasn't there.
2) His opinion is based purely on how JD described, which, because JD is not a doctor, may have described it in a way that is not completely how it happened. The doctor testifies his hand was flat and that JD said the glass shattered and smashed his finger, whereas it is known that his fingers were over the bench, and the impact of the bottle is likely to have caused the crush, not the glass shattering itself.
Also not to mention it was found in the bar, there were broken bottles, and there was blood everywhere.
Doesn't add up. Came for an easy paycheck.
Hell yeah... She said "your counsel will have time to rehabilitate you"
I was wondering how his finger got cut off but after hearing this doctor trying to deny the vodka bottle it makes perfect sense. His finger was hanging over the edge of the bar and she threw a bottle hard at his hand trying to destroy his ability to play guitar and only got one finger instead. She is evil.
Yeah it seems pretty obvious to me it was hanging over the edge.
I'm not convinced she was trying to injure his guitar hand. That's a hard throw and she really wanted to hurt him, but she's a bad aim. She would have been as happy, or happier if she had hit his head or face that hard. She really is a crazy bitch. Johnny was weak and not responsive enough because alcoholics, deep down, feel helpless and somehow deserving of abuse when it comes flying at them. He was conditioned by his brutal mother and his traumatic childhood. Johnny, you're crazy talented and a good man. Love yourself and go have the peaceful life you deserve. It's time to stop punishing yourself. Be as good to yourself as you are to your beautiful children.
Yes. Yes she is.
I doubt that was her aim, she probably just wanted to hurt him. I imagine it smashed on contact or hit next to his hand then sliced.
Evil fucker nonetheless, reminds me of my stepmum. The abuse, lying, all of it lol.
Get real rofl there's no way she was intentionally trying to destroy his hand. She was having a fit and lobbing bottles in his general direction and striked gold.
I always had a negative impression of prosecutors because the media always portrays them as being against antagonistic towards victims but now I see that they are necessary in order to weed out the liars and make sure actual justice is achieved.
Prosecutors are also typically the government paid attorney against suspects of crime. They aren’t usually getting paid the massive bucko bucks their counterparts, the private defense attorneys, make.
These are not prosecutors, they are plaintiffs. There is a difference.
@@mattcrawford9633 Well I just learned something else
@@mattcrawford9633 No, they are prosecutors.
The plaintiff is the person who sues the other. Johnny Depp is the plaintiff. Amber Heard is the defendant and her team is the Defense.
@@Dragon_Lair prosecutors work for the government prosecuting crimes. In civil court there are no prosecutors, there are plaintiffs and plantiff's attorneys and the defense. If you don't believe me, its fine. Serves me right for commenting on the internet.
Having no medical recordings (no evidence for an abuse) but paying a doctor (who has nothing to do with johnny) to lie in court....yep, that makes sense to me 😂😂
you dont get it... everyone is lying about amber, its all this master plot by the paitriarchy to bring this innocent woman down! like have her ex partner accuse her of DV before she meets her husband and then have her accuse him of DV and for him to ¨set the record straight¨ its a plot all his witnesses lie, the medical journals forged, smear campaings online against her and so on...
couldnt be that the only liar is amber who lied to her friends as well... nah not that
Love that JD looks up and laughs when he said he knows that the injury was not caused by JD’s explanation!!
I love how EVERYONE on Turd's team refuses to just answer Camille's questions as stated. They keep trying to give detail that wasn't asked for and getting angry when they're cut off or stricken from the record lmfao.
It’s almost painfully unfair how much better Depp’s lawyers are 🤣… it starting to legit feel like an NFL caliber talent vs some amateur “after work and for fun” league 🤣… then comes Rottenborn to mess it up extra lol
AH's lawyers are less skilled, to be sure, but they were also fed incorrect and incomplete information, and needed to remain zealous advocates in spite of not having a case. It's easy to extract an internally consistent picture when you start with truth. It's much more difficult to remain internally consistent when you start with lies.
Like old school players that played professionally 30+ years ago playing against the pros now 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tbf I also think it's just hard to make a play with Amber's case because of how crap she is. Another commentator I watch speculates that some of the dumber line of questioning they do is due to amber demanding it of them.
@@Slann_ted didn't she have a different team of attorneys before this trial too? That dropped the case and she had to hire new ones?swear I heard that earlier in the trial
@@Deathstar0wannabe … yeah it’s true. Their reason for dropping it was the distance to travel to Virginia out of LA was a problem but I’m sure they just knew it was a hot mess from the start 🤣
"so your rate is a 1000 an hour or 5000 a day?" well for that i am expert on anything baby
Love the videos Asmon, always make my day better! ❤️
Mine too :-)
Me too
Me poo
Asmond and other commentators are annoying and serves no purpose for constants ignorant coverage replayed.
@@terryregas1748 looking like a karen
This Entire Defense hinges on sowing distrust on a man, who was drunk at the time, not remembering his exact hand placement a moment before serious trauma.
I love watching your videos sm!
Also, the disbelief on Johnny's face, I feel that
Damn she picked apart his paid Testimony. She is my hero!
I really hope all these “professionals” get outted. Cause this is ridiculous.
I like how JD looked right into that man's heart like "GO ahead, try it"
Your commentary has brought be suck pleasure. I am new to your channel and loving it. Your funny and logical. Thank you for doing this and bring a smile to my face daily!!!!
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Board certified = “He’s bored of being certified” 😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️ oh that killed me
Man with no finger vs woman with bruise kit
Who would you believe?
According to the media for the last 6 years amber😂. But according to the truth it’s Johnny
The combination of the bottle striking and JDS reflex to pull away caused exactly this type if horrendous injury...
When he swallowed his own saliva the moment Camille said "That's not my question Mr. Moore" he was like.. "Please get me out of here already" 😂😂😂
Thank you Asmondgold for your great commentary ~ perfectly funny and intelligent ~ just my absolute favorite covering the trial! 👏👏👏
I worked in the medical field for over 15 years and have an associate degree in pre-med + a bachelor’s degree worth of courses studied at various times while raising 4 children. I can tell you that an orthopedic surgeon is for the reconstruction of injured joints. Not trauma to tissue around a joint. He is NOT a plastic surgeon. This doctor would have had no knowledge of what the severed area of the tissue looked like after the injury and can only testify to the condition of the joint via X-rays. This to me is a bunch of money bagging BS!
Let's hope the jury has some knowledge or common sense
Ha! This Camille is my jam. She straight up slapped this man. Johnny's case is evidence, ambers is hearsay. Not even saying Johnny is a good or great dude, just that he didn't beat her.
Be aware ladies and gentlemen, this isn't even her final form
If he can't determine what could have caused the injury, how CAN he determine what didn't cause the injury?
Buddy... I don't like the guy either but your comment is just dumb...
anyone else notice literally every one of AH witnesses that are on the stand immediately go on the offensive when JD’s team has them go “off script” or as their team calls it, testimony?
No one asked if the injury was caused by smashing a phone, which was AHs testimony.
Just wait until the next witness comes up! The only thing he's contributed is wasting AH's team's precious time. 4 hours and he's still going. This guy thinks that talking more means smarter.
He has to earn that 5k.
@@blue_lancer_es he's talking about the next witness
This trial is nearly over Amber Heard must be sweating like Pavarotti’s baw bag 😂
i literally broke my leg by falling over while stationary. people thought i was lying because of how bad the break was. it’s wild what small things can do and
A friend of mine shattered every bone in her hand and wrist just by tripping on a curb.
@@maryr130 do they have the glass bones that scammer from spongebob had on the chocolate episode???
@@maryr130 same thing happened to my sister
I broke my foot when getting out of bed. I didn't fall, I just put my food down weird and it twisted to the side. I didn't even know it was broken, it just hurt for a while but I thought I just sprained it since I could still walk and move the foot normally. Next day it started swelling and after going to the doctor they put it in the cast.
Also broke my arm right above the elbow while arm wrestling about two years ago. I had a really long operation because the bone literally shattered into dozens of smaller pieces and they had to take all of them out through the shoulder, a cast for a 2 weeks, and then when they took it out the arm muscles were literally frozen solid and my arm was perpetually locked into a 90 degree angle. It would literally just hang in that position without any support at all, as if something invisible was holding it. So yeah... I was extremely freaked out when the doctor told me he never saw something this bad happen after just 2 weeks in a cast and had no idea how much this can be rehabilitated. But, fortunately after a year of extensive rehabilitation every single day, my arm is like brand new and the only thing I can no longer do is wash my back with my right arm, just doesn't bend that far anymore. In the words of the physician who helped rehabilitate me "I got lucky I can use it for anything more than measuring 90 degree angles".
So yeah, it's scary how easy it is to break your body by doing seemingly innocent things.
@@RiskOfBaer totally! I got this weird frozen shoulder from a car accident. took forever to be able to move my arm right....
Moore was ready to Cry. And Speigal headed str8 to the restroom after Ethics came up. I'd love to be in the jury here! But wouldn't want to miss your faces we seem to make together 😂
Amber’s and her lawyer’s head swing as the look back and forth between the witness and Mr. Rottenborn, is hilarious. Like two crows or owls in synch. Haha 😂 23:39
So let me get this straight, they are getting experts out to explain to us how Depp's finger couldn't have been destroyed by the bottle?
Please can we see an expert come in on behalf of Depp and talk about how being battered around the face for hours by someone that wears chunky rings couldn't leave you with... just one cheekbone bruise?
They could find some idiot off the street that could tell them that. When I saw Heard’s injuries and later heard her testimony I was just perplexed. How that amount of attacks by Depp just barely did damage. There wasn’t even inflammation. Anyone would get inflammation after that amount of abuse, and it would show the next day.
Look at Chris Brown attack on Rihanna. She didn’t look as pretty as Amber did and her face had a lot of inflammation because of the punches by Brown.
We know that glass bottles don't break that easy. We also know that if a glass bottle was smashed against someone that the likelihood of causing moderate to severe lacerations is high. If a *handle* of vodka, especially if it had any fluid in it, was thrown and smacked johnny directly on his finger and then shattered, would that not cause both blunt damage and have a high probability to sever such a thin appendage? How does that *not* line up with the method of injury at all?
It all depends on force thrown, angles, liquid in the bottle, alot of factors. It isnt cut and dry.
@@queenieqt2033 As Camille, would say, that's not the question.
If all these unknowns affect whether it could be a vodka bottle, then with the knowledge we do currently have, it could be a vodka bottle. That's what it means for it to be consistent. If it were inconsistent, that would mean that current known factors could rule it out. But they can't. If we say "this was caused by a vodka bottle", doing so creates no inconsistencies.
1 the injury initiated from the side of the palm of his hand as seen by the damaged tissue.
2 the shattered bone was exactly on the point where the cut was, which is physically impossible in the scenario you're describing.
3 not mentioned by the doctor, but most of the energy from a bottle fracturing goes into the impact and fractures. It is already unlikely that a shard from a fractured, hand-thrown bottle has enough remaining energy to cut through the bone of a finger.
Dude, them saying he cut his finger off is like saying oh she fell down the stairs. NEVER would they speak this way about a woman's injury if abu$e was involved.
As an ER nurse, there is no way i could rule out things he says he ruled out by sight.. That's why we ask patients what happened when they come in. We ask people they were with. If we don't believe it's true by the look of the wound, counsil and tests are made.. But you can't just look at a wound and say "oh by the look, this is what happened".. That is bs..
The freaky thing is…. Johnny covered that up so that Ms. Heard didn’t face a criminal assault.