Atelier Ryza Combat 101: Battle Fundamentals | Guides | Backlog Battle
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- For folks who want to learn about Atelier Ryza’s new battle system, or just need a little bit of help to know what to look for during battle, I’ve created this massively in-depth video in the hopes that it’ll help players feel comfortable with the real time action gameplay. Be warned: it’s a pretty long video!
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I think I've gotten 21 hours of playtime in the first 3 chapters... The Alchemy and combat is TOO GOOD! Thank you for ironing out the mechanics for us~!
You’re welcome! Glad to help!
great video so games make me feel like i need to take a college course to master it lmao
dametreusp ppp it’s why it’s a 101 course 😉
@@BacklogBattle lol true
Just got back to my 22hr save after 3 years of inactivity and completely forgot the combat system. So I am very thankful for this video.
Dude I can’t thank you enough for this and the alchemy video. They helped a TON and I’m finally starting to wrap my head around this game. This is my first Atelier, so I was quite overwhelmed, but I’m getting the hang of it now, and having a blast !
Glad to be of help! I somehow knew these tutorials need to be made! Here's hoping I don't need to make another one for the sequel!
@@BacklogBattle we're about to find out! it drops in a few days
Oh my god THANK YOU! this helped me so much! I realize I’m super late but when I saw Ryza 3 come out I decided to start the series so I could eventually get to the third one and fully enjoy it. I got the synthesis down but the combat was a little iffy for me in the beginning. This helped so much!
Glad I could help!
This is the first Atelier game that I have not rage quit after an hour and it is thanks to you.
Since I havent seen anyone mention it so I might as well:
10 is not the maximum Core Charge you can have. As of right now I have 15 as my max. After clearing certain quests you’ll get a rewards called “Hint for --“. This in turn unlocks a treasure map that can be viewed in the Atelier. There are 5 total in the game and 3 (or 2, cant remember) of them have items that raise Max Core Charge. The 5th Treasure has a recipe book for ingots and cloth necessary to make the best weapons and armor in the game
Much appreciated! I've had this game for a couple of years now but it kinda started collecting dust. Since an anime came out, I decided to dive back in but was lost with the battle system. Thank you!
Thanks man....I'm a kind of guy who don't like to read....so just listen to u really help me a lot!!
Came across your channel while checking for reviews regarding ryza. And your review sold the game for me.
Your review is concise about discussing game mechanics. Thank you
Thank you so much! Hope you enjoy playing Atelier Ryza!
Thank you for this guide, I was super excited to play this game but I got a little stumped when the battle tutorials rolled around. This was a big help!
You’re very welcome! Glad to be of help!
wow thanks mate I didn't even know tht you can escape from battle... most of the time I just got whipped miserably
Glad to be of help! 😁
Same😅
Thank you!!!! I know I’m late but I just started this series in hopes that I can fully appreciate 2 and the new 3rd one coming out. I can’t believe I slept on this series, it’s everything I want in a game. I’m really excited to learn as much as I can and enjoy the game to its fullest so instead of another playthrough I can move on to Ryza 2 (the struggles of being a completionist and a perfectionist lol). Thank you! These video tutorials were very thorough!
Never too late! I’m glad this helped!
Really helpful and detailed video, I'm struggling a bit with the Combat this game and this has taught me a few much needed things. Thank you!
Glad to hear! I know that the prospect of real time combat can be overwhelming for some, but when I cracked the code, I thought that others might want to know how I approached the whole thing. Once you find that approach, I'd say the battles become relatively easy over time, save for a new really tough bosses in the world!
Game is coming tomorrow & I’ve never been this hyped in a long time! You’ve sold this for me 👌🏾
Ryza hype!
Fantastic video, just what I was looking for. Thank you!
Great tutorial! You break down the core processes to make them easily understandable - thanks you
You’re welcome! I have one for crafting too, if you need help with that!
Great video! Very informative. I didn't know anything about the action order up until now. Thanks!
You’re welcome!
still helping people in 2023. Thanks for the great explanation. Wonderful guide and design. Love the recap
Thanks, Extra orders had me stumped as I thought any order was an extra order, now I know you have to wait for a special request
No doubt the best game play guide I have ever seen. And my first game was Pong way back when. So I have seen a lot of walkthroughs. Thanks for the time and effort you and your team put into making these tutorials. I will admit I need to go back and re watch the synthesis section.
Thanks! But there is no team! 😅
Very well articulated and well spoken. Thanks for the great video!
You're welcome! Glad I could help!
Great video! The whole battle screen became so much clearer haha. Thanks a heap
Martin Lijauco you’re welcome! Glad to be of help!
I just started the game and was felling a little lost. This and the alchemy video helped me a lot!
Ah, thank you very much for this! I was confused by how Normal Orders worked, as I have yet to see one come out. I wish the game would specify those potential conditions!
Still, really appreciate your coverage on this game. I have been LOVING it.
Great to hear! I’m eagerly awaiting the Atelier Dusk releases! I heard it’s one of the best series
Again who would dislike this video? It's great. Thanks~
Great video, really motivated me to pick this game up down the line own time. After finishing my backlog.
Good luck! Some of our backlogs are thousands of games deep! 😁
I thank you so, so much for these videos. You've earned a new subscriber!
I just got into this game and its my first atelier game and im only 3 or so hours in and felt so overwhelmed and confused. This helped me sooooo much omg. Thank you so much.
Now off to watching the synthesis video next
You’re very welcome!
Thank you man , I just got this game today and this really helped me.
You're very welcome! Glad to have helped!
Thanks for the tutorials (this one and the alchemy one), I've just begun and I didn't know what the hell I was doing for the first few hours, lol.
I haven't played the game for that long yet, but this did give me some proper tips that I can use during combat. Thanks a bunch ^_^
You’re welcome! Glad to have helped!
Just picked this up from the ps4 Summer Sale been on my radar for awhile excited to jump in people seem to really love it!
Awesome! I hope you enjoy the game! It’s one of my favorites from last year!
OMG thank you so much. I bought this game but the combat really confused me and turn me down after 4 hours. You really hook me back and help me see the sense of combat.
Glad to be of help! I have a guide on crafting too if you need help!
Lowkey I was waiting for you to release this before I started actually playing this game
Sorry if it took so long!
Just finished the mysterious series bought ryza and ryza 2 they're downloading can't wait
Thank you so much for all your help.
You’re welcome!
your voice is amazing, it sounds like a commercial or announcer voice
You explained everything so clearly! Thank you so much! :)
This video was so helpful!
My man this is gold, thank you so much.
Glad to be of help!
Thank you for the guide! I started the game a bit ago but was having trouble understanding the combat but it makes a lot more sense now
You're welcome!
I have a feeling I’m still going to be button mashing…. 😣 Hopeless hahaha
@@auntieapple7465 hopefully you got it! I’d say for regular battles attack regularly until tactic lvls 2-3 and for bosses 3-5.
Only use special abilities when your teammates ask for a move or you have a lot of points
And get the right party setup so you do those moves easily
I love this game series yet keep swapping between this and other games. Thanks for posting the tutorial!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the guide, as I already finished the game long before watching the video the only new thing I learned was how to escape from battle, as I somehow missed that tutorial.
I think everyone missed that Escape tutorial! Glad to help, either way!
Few questions: 1) What's up with the attack/defend icons for each party member? 2) when would you ever not use 'negative mode' for a party member? 3) what is the yellow bar below the HP meter? Thanks for a great and easy to follow tutorial!
Thanks for watching the video! To answer your questions:
1) The attack/defend icons for each party member indicate the "row" that they're in. Later in the game, you'll be able to set formations, and these icons will come to play. The attack icons are for front row while the defend icons are for the back row!
2) I don't know? I've never had to change modes while playing the game, so I can't really answer this question :D! I felt like if I really needed someone to use a Skill or an Item, I'd just change to them and do it myself!
3) The yellow bar below the HP meter is Stun. Basically, if this meter drops too quick, you might have to check to see if you've equipped good armor on that character. The enemies have a similar bar below their health meter!
Hope this helps!
This is a very good and comprehensive guide!
Thank you so much!
thank you for the great guide !
Thank you this really helps, I just started playing this game recently and was a bit overwhelmed.
You’re welcome! Glad to be of help!
@@BacklogBattle can you make a video about the gathering material if it's possible?
ive never seen such a beautiful tutorial before my god.,
Very helpful! Thank you!
Great guide buddy. Please make more.
Glad you liked the video!
Oh thank god, I was just button-smashing the last like 2 hours, bc I didn't get the fight system x.x thanks a bunch!
You’re welcome!
Very informative, thank you!
I'm starting to love this game. 😊
I want to thank you for this video. I played this game right when it released and stopped near the end because of life stuff. I just decided to pick it up and finish it since I purchased the 2nd game but I got killed in the first 3 fights I attempted lol.
I can see how challenging it is! One of the reasons why I made this video is if anyone goes into a hiatus with the game, they can just watch this and get back into playing! Glad to hear that's exactly what happened with you!
Great tutorial, thanks! I find the combat system overly complicated, hopefully I'll get used to it.
Thanks for the Video. I got used to the battle mechanics and its really fun (22 hours into the game). I didn't know about the core cycler ability tho. Time to get it :P
I ran into the same situation 10 hours in, until I finally finished the quest!
Thank you for the video. It's really useful
You’re welcome!
Thanks for this video! I got far enough into the game that restarting seems like an awful idea but I've been away so long I forget how to play haha
You’re welcome!
very nice video, i myself have been having difficulty getting the "extra order" to trigger to finish the party quests, so I'll go and see if I can do it after watching this.
Definitely let me know if the video helped out! I want to make sure that I’m making these tutorials the right way!
@@BacklogBattle I was able to execute an extra order, so woot! One thing I didn't realize was that if you go into a quick action, it kinda pauses the battle , so you can think about things a little bit and actually see if you can trigger extra orders at the time, and then cancel out of the quick action without spending the points.
I wish you were my math teacher, thanks man!
You're welcome! Enjoy!
Thanks for another great guide.
My pleasure!
This is great! Thank you :)
Again great video, and the alchemy one. Could you do a video on how to find items, starting from when you receive a quest. I struggle to understand what I need, where to go, or how to find items. Many thanks
As far as how to find items goes, a lot of it is just going to be experimentation of what gathering tools to use on certain things on the field. Once you've gathered them once, your Table of Contents should show where you can farm these items! Hope this helps!
Top video man! Good Job!
Appreciate it!
Even knowing all this I know I'll be having a hard time managing it in real time, there's so much stuff going on.
I wish they gave you the option to freeze the system when an action is engaged, like most Square games with ATB do.
I recommend just practicing some of these one at a time. It might seem fast, but when you get into the swing of things, you'll realize that it's actually manageable. I'm a person who prefers turn based combat over real time in RPGs, but I do feel that the system they have here grows on you over time. Reach out if you're still having problems!
Thanks i had no idea how the action orders worked in this game
Glad to be of help!
Thanks your videos have really helped me
You’re very welcome! Hope to see more of your comments in future videos!
Just got this game and I kinda find it pretty confusing between the combat system and the alchemical lab. So thank you very much for your guides, they're helpful.
You're very welcome! I'm glad my guides have helped!
This combat system is very different to other turn based RPGs even some games with ATB systems too. The first struggle I had is how to heal my party members after battle or where to get healing items where I only just found out myself with the core system while items like bombs and ointments through alchemy.
Had my mistake to go aggressive mode but so far only done this in random bosses but that way would be trouble with bosses.
I played trought "naked" legendary(No gear inheritance) and didn't even know "run from combat" was a thing untill basicly the last harsh struggle late midgame(before reliable, high quality armor/weapon crafts). I kinda feel stupid dying so many times trying to snatch materials in zone where monsters overpowered me, sure legendary ain't "hard" but when you don't have the gear enemies tend to kill you off very quickly. My naked run in Ryza 2, have been easy in comparison due to how corecharges works, if needed you can spam healing items without returning to the atelier every 2nd battle.
Just got this game after a lot of debate (couldn’t decide to play this first or skip it and play 2 right away) and it took me 10 minutes to figure out what the yellow gauge is for under your health. Lol
Great video, (and the alchemy one too). Despite these videos I feel the mechanics are just a little overcomplicated and not very intuitive. For example, rather than look at what's happening in combat, you seem to actually need to focus on all the numbers and items around the screen rather than what's going on in the middle of it, you know, like the game :) I've been playing the legend of heroes and that has a deep combat system but makes a lot of sense in how to use it without the need for a long tutorial like this. I want to stick at this game though, but I feel overwhelmed by it all at times.
What you described is probably a problem I had with it’s UX design. Everything is pretty and themed, but from a functionality standpoint? It’s all over the place! I’m hoping it’ll get better in the next game!
wow really done well and tank you :)
I love the series but my favorite part was the turn based system. Every time I decide to try Ryza series again, I’ll rewatch this video for motivation. I just can’t get into it yet. Imma try again tomorrow, I’ve let this game sit for too long and I would like to play all 3 eventually.
Keep at it! It's easier than you think! Just focus on triggering those Orders!
Thanks for the info
How do you stun enemies im pretty sure its the yellow bar below the enemy health that has to deplete for them to be stunned but every time i try to get the yellow bar down they die before i can do it. So stuck please help
excellent, video.. subscribed
Thank you!
So i came to ask a question, why does ryza sometimes do 2 attacks but most the time she only hits once with her stick.. i got excited when i saw her do 2 physical attacks thinking i must have leveld up and learned a new ability that makes her swing 2x but then right after she never did it again.
Thank you so much for the video, the battle system is definitely overwhelming but this helps a lot. One question, what does "move" do besides enabling escape?
It allows you to change your formation later on, but early on, it just changes where your character is onscreen. Location does affect what kinds of attacks they might get clipped on, and later, when formation matters, you can literally position someone behind another character to prevent them from getting direct damage!
@@BacklogBattle Oooh, I haven't unlocked formations yet so that explains it! Thanks!
This game looks sick. I like the other Atelier games but the battle system looks like the most fun out of all entries.
It’s fast paced and strategic! Love it!
Can i use any element without item?,like ice damage,my ryza theres no ice skill,But the weapon has ice elements and how to do it?
haha, i never realised until know that you can always flee from battle by moving down. i always just sticked with the battle. xd
Thank you for an extremely helpful breakdown on the games battle mechanics!!!! I'm new to this series and was really struggling to get to grips with the combat. What are your thoughts on this game? especially compared to previous entries???? Maybe you could do a vid on your top 10 favourites Atelier Ryza games, or RPG or JRPG games in general. Have you played Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore???
I’m currently working on my review of each of the games of the Atelier Dusk trilogy, starting with Ayesha, which is coming out next week (I hope!) followed by a review of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore! As far as thoughts on Ryza, I have a review of the game that’s out! That does a really good job of explaining my thoughts about the game! In short: it’s great!
I give up. How do you flee battle on the switch? I have tried left stick and right stick. And left arrow pad. Nothing. Anyone figured it out?
I'm trying to complete the Hit Vulnerabilities Party Quest but can't figure out how to hit an enemy's weakpoint
Can u explain about element at battle system?
I watched your other alchemy guide video and I just watched this. I just needed to leave a like and a comment to commend you on making videos of such sterling quality. These days, the platform is rife of guide makers making meme-filled videos with their incessant need to inject their oh-so-funny personality disguised as guides. I know this video is pretty old as of now, but keep up the good work.
Thank you! I don’t make guides often (the last one I made was for Tales of Arise), but I’m just happy I was able to help you out!
Whats the difference between the negative and aggressive modes?
This is my first Atelier game and I'm loving it, such and underrated series, im gojnf to buy the season pass for this game, the trilogy game collection thing on Nintendo online store and preorder the new game ASAP, You're videos are a great help, so thank you.
Aggressive mode let’s non-controlled party members to spend AP freely. I’ve never had to use this at all in my playthrough. Also, glad you’re enjoying the game and are jumping into the series!
@@BacklogBattle thank you so much for explaining, this is easily my favourite game series,
What a well made guide! Thank you so much for this!
However, at the risk of sounding like a noob, I seem to misunderstand the whole CC system..I am just starting and trying to get all the basics down.
So say in battle my Core indicates 10, and Tao’s got a bomb equipped that says 2 CC. However, after using it once and using no one else’s core items, it becomes unavailable. Shouldn’t I be able to use it 5 times?? 5x2CC = 10 cores.. no?
You’re absolutely right! The only time the item would be unavailable again during battle is if you Convert said item into Core Charges during battle, in which case, it will become available again when you return to the Atelier. To my knowledge, there isn’t an item that prevents you from using it repeatedly until you run out of Core Charges, so this is a strange occurrence!
Great video! This seems like a silly question...but how do you change enemy targets during battle? I see the giant 'Target' sign over one enemy, but have not figured out a way to switch to attack a different one until the first enemy is defeated.
Just press left or right at any time and it should change your target!
Backlog Battle ah, thanks. Not sure how I missed that. I was trying to target while selecting skills/items I guess
@@Justinlmd You know, with the frenetic nature of combat, I definitely can't blame you for missing things. Also, the game randomly gives you tutorials on battle when you're not in battle, so it's not your fault for missing what they throw at you :D
Is there a Training mode/Training dummy in Atelier Ryza? I've seen some videos of a guy with an infinite health weasel or puni but I cant figure it out
That's available as an update, and that enemy is used for a combo challenge than for training!
Telling what actual buttons are used for orders, skills, switching etc would really help. In the video, the turn gauge stops occasionaly. What causes that?
Some animations and attacks stop the timeline from moving. As far as I can tell, Orders do this a lot.
I think there is no way to do it, but I would like to have an option to chose with which character you start battle. Other than that good video and also thanks for the recommendation earlier, I like this game a lot. Will probably play a whole lot this weekend.
Glad to hear that the recommendation is going great! It’s definitely one of my favorites of the year still, and I’m even wanting to replay the game another time on the PS4!
You certainly can choose who is your character upon entering battle. i can't remember the exact way to do it, but where you set your formation someone will have a star icon. that is the person you control when battle starts
shortstacks0 You press start/+ I believe. It’s shown as “make main character”
This video sucks!
I have a question about this game's combat system : In battles with more than one enemy all characters must attack a single enemy or can each one of them fight a different opponent separately ?
You can change the target with the d-pad. Your team will focus whoever is selected.
How do I stun enemies?
Is there a switch controller layout for this somewhere? I keep forgetting how to activate certain things and the don't tell you what buttons to use. This is my main complaint with this game, if the tutorial doesn't communicate what to do (and a bunch of them really don't) you either have to forget it, or trial and error your way through until you figure it out.
I just quickly checked and sadly, there doesn’t seem to be one. What commands are you looking for specifically? I do know that many of the games commands do have visible prompts when they become available. Checked both synthesis and combat and confirmed that they’re both there
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Do you recommend switching characters in the battles or do you always use the same one?
I highly recommend not switching too much during battle. Switching characters resets the available action orders, which means you’ll have to wait for the new ones to appear. This is bad, especially when an enemy decides to try and charge up for a powerful attack and you’ve no action orders to use to either stun or outright defeat them entirely.
I just picked up the game, so question: I now know that items are used by consuming core charges and the items themselves aren’t consumed. So is there any point in keeping a lower quality item once I synthesize a more powerful one, or should I just sell it/keep it for other recipes? For instance, if I have a Grass Bean with Poison Cure that is of the same quality as my currently equipped Grass Bean without, is there any benefit to keeping the Grass Bean without Poison Cure other than having another healing item to use?
In other words, are items in this game more like equippables rather than consumables? And if that’s the case, why would you ever consume the item? And then why are they called consumables in the backpack tab?
You're on the right track. I typically don't save low quality things and sell them for money!