Selfish father blocks photo line during Conway Scenic 50th Anniversary Charter (read desc.)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2024
- Allow me to give the full story of this as there’s a decent amount of moving parts. So basically, this guy, his kid and his wife went to the Conway Scenic for their 50th Anniversary celebration on August 3rd. They attended the photo charter that was put on by the Conway Scenic and the 470 Club, with a bus that would follow the mock freight train to several film locations where photographers and railfans would get off and film/take pictures of the train passing by. During one of the stops, the dads’ shot was apparently blocked by someone. Several of my friends and I asked everyone on the charter if they had blocked his shot and all of them said no, and even if they did, they weren’t made aware of it. So, this guy decides that he is going to stand in the shots of literally the entire charter. After being asked nicely to move just out of frame, he didn’t budge. Even the charter director himself couldn’t get him to move and as a result, several of our shots were affected by his selfish behavior. After the charter director asked him to move, he walked back to the photo line defeated. We all applauded him for doing his best. That was when mama bear stepped in, saying “You all just made a mistake because I’m gonna stand right here!” “Here” being the edge of the platform and practically right next to the rail. The charter director walked back and asked her to kindly get back on the bus, which I believe she did. The charter tried for a second attempt at a runby but junior and his asshole father stood right in the same spot, now almost fully blocking our shots. It’s a real shame, the mother seemed to be quite nice beforehand. She was very polite and even when a friend of mine accidentally took her seat on the bus, she made no big deal about it and simply moved to a different seat. Apart from this little moment, the rest of my trip went very well! I hope that everyone can learn a lesson from this video and I wish nothing but the best to everyone ELSE on the charter and the Conway Scenic Railroad as a whole. I want to especially thank the director of this photo charter for being an amazing guy. I hope, wherever he is, he is doing well and, apart from this little hurdle, had smooth running on the charters. Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed laughing at this buffoon and I hope you all will tune back in for the full video from that day.
Keep ‘em rolling!
-Ben
Theres always ONE jerk who wants to spoil everyones fun, one to flex their "power, entitlement, etc" "Karens / Kens " everwhere ;(
Saw this same dude in bartlett.. same thing happened, asked very kindly if he could move a few steps to the side, refused so we had to move our entire photoline and squish together settling for a less than average shot well this guy wears a smug look on his face, was tempted to stand directly in front of him.
North country hospitality at its finest.
"If I don't get my shot, no one gets their shot." Very juvenile, elementary-school behavior. Maybe even pre-school level.
Irony, by staying where he is, the shot loses the framing of the depot and the curve that will show more of the train.
The obvious intent to anger/frustrate others is obvious when the request of the organizer is blown off as well.
I went yesterday and chased the freight, the bus wasn't even full. Nothing like this happened, hopefully, if i did my job right, I stayed out of everyone's shots.
No grafitti on the cars ! Such a beautiful sight.
Vomit
Cause this was a photo freight train at a railroad museum
People like them are why I don't really railfan anymore.
I was also on that bus. Been bullied that family to move. His content here is twisted to his favor because he got mad he could control someone. Grow up all of you.
@@MWilliston you’re a guy with a wife and kid, and are accusing a LITERAL 14 YEAR OLD for aggrivated assault for asking you to move out of the shot….
You got a much better shot after you moved. With the building overhang framing the locomotive that was a great still photo.
There is always a twit. This is when they need to be reminded they are on railroad property and may be asked to leave at anytime. That's why it's good to have a LEO on the photoline.
@@maestromecanico597 Yeah. It’s unfortunate that this charter was understaffed and I feel bad for the lone charter organizer
The charter was great. This TH-camr was the bully. Notice he didn’t show the beginning part of him bullying them. He spun it to Ben liking and NOT the real truth.
@@MWilliston What?
@@MWillistonfirst off, the man started this, he was being an ass and blocking everyone’s shot intentionally, what you don’t see in the video, atleast visually is the man’s wife threatening to stand on the tracks, this man also proceeded to start taking photos of us while we where waiting for the train, so no, we where not the “Bullies”
@@MWilliston as someone who was present at this charter, we kindly asked the people blocking our shots to move out of the way. we repeatedly kindly asked for them to move and they did not. we asked the charter director to help since we did not want to engage any further and have more authority take care of it, so we could have a smooth rest of the ride back to Conway. this is where this youtuber started filming as to show what interaction would come of it. photo charter etiquette says that everyone should make sure that no shots are obstructed and everyone gets a fair shot of the train. this train was marketed as a "photographer/railfan" special. not to say these folks aren't railfans or photographers by any means, but if they are, they should at least learn proper etiquette before returning to another charter. it is lucky this was not a professional charter by folks such as Mass Bay RRE, or the 470 Club, as the organizers there are much more strict on this type of situation.
Liked and subbed. If being nice doesn't work, my threat is always 'move or you will be mercilessly mocked on TH-cam'. 😁
@@FastFlyingVirginian Thanks for the sub and like! Yeah, my thought throughout this whole thing was “Fine. If you won’t move, I’ll spread you across the internet. And then we’ll see who’s the smug one!”
Sucks it happened on a paid charter, I can't imagine they'll be allowed back anytime soon. I've been fortunate to either be on trips that had a very tight rein on squaring up photo lines before the subject train made its pass, or trips where some polite prodding had the desired result. Seems to me like folks who actively try to ruin others' shots on trips like that find themselves railfanning in unintended solitude real fast.
I'm the kinda guy to not really mind who's in my shot. If I can't get the person out of the foreground, I just wing it. But if the guy is being a jerk about it(luckily I haven't had to deal with anything like that) then I would probably just have to give in. Worst I've ever had was a few druggies walk into my shot while filming in Nashua, but it happens. Props to the Charter Director for being calm, and props to you guys for not beating the dad up. Dick move on his part
New sub btw, like the videos!
@@thenhrailfan7470 I’m usually the same way on my own but with friends that could change. Thanks for watching and the sub!
This is really sad in so many ways. A few seconds of stepping a side and a great photo shoot.
Perfect reason I don't even get close to sausage fests like this and pretty much gave up photographing trains. Too much petty whining from BOTH sides anymore and seems to be getting worse. Railroading is just a job to me anymore and can't wait until retirement.
LOL@sausage fest.
People are so weird these days. I feel like there’s room for everyone here.
Eh. North country critters.
@@mattydred72 Some of us don’t like to have to practically fight over the same shot with a hundred other people. I travel thousands of miles photographing trains but you’ll never catch me at foam fests like this
But you’ll gladly fight with simple, smaller railfans who are just out trying to have fun. You’re everything that’s wrong with this hobby. You think that the power you hold gives you all the right to bully people who don’t want to do everything the same as you. Hell, even if they did, you’d still have a problem with that
@@BMMEC6000 that’s not what I’m saying at all, I was explaining to the original commenter that not all Rail fans are photo charter people. People enjoy what they enjoy.
@@NorthCountryTrains That’s not what you’re saying here, yes. But you’ve said it before elsewhere. I get what you’re saying and I’d agree with you if it wasn’t for that self important flair that you add to everything you say
Incredible… this is why you’ll virtually never catch me going to these events. I just don’t understand spending money to fight for the same photo with a hundred other people.
I got something similar I got yelled at for purposely blocking a shot when i didint see someone there they called me a creep & a weirdo and cursed me out & stuff & I did it back
I remember that guy, he was at Bartlett doing the same thing to the photo line. Total douche behavior (pardon my French). There's really no need for people to be so petty. I miss shots a lot, but I don't go and ruin it for everyone else.
A very funny scene and interaction though, very well delt with by ya'll 😂
@@TROOJW851 He was saying something about how someone blocked him before or in Bartlett. Overall, good bonding with the charter guys
@@BMMEC6000@BMMEC6000 it might've been in Bartlett because I have a very short accidental video of her in the foreground arguing with the charter director
They’re more than likely banned from attending another Charter held by the 470 Club or the CSRX. Rest assured, it’s unlikely they’ll even be trackside with their son in the near future. Frankly, their actions violate the private charters purpose at its very core, so I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if other charters and photography clubs would be warned about them by the 470 club.
@@TezcatlipocaMountyRailfan I should hope so. While everyone on this charter didn’t pay too much for it and were pretty chill throughout the whole thing, I know other charters are not as laid back. They should just be happy that they weren’t running with the pros on a several hundred dollar charter
WHAT ? HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S HAPPENING ? !!!!!!!! ??????????????????
Read the the full disruption Ricky Redneck. It's not that hard.
That was probably the funniest part of the whole trip
Wasn't it aggravating though? I mean, since i'm not a professional, I wouldn't have minded him standing where he was, but some of you guys probably were a little pissed.
Wow, teaching the kid how to act like an entitled jerk early on… think father of the year title will be forever out of reach for this guy! I can’t wait till kiddo gets to be 16 or so, and is totally out of control. Daddy will learn why you need to practice, and teach, manners to the kiddos while they are young enough to possibly listen…
I witness the whole thing. Ben is passing incorrect information. He was the bully. I’m reaching out to North Conway Railroad and reporting this. This TH-cam is posting lies.
Ignore the other guy. He’s the father
This is why I don't bother to railfan anymore.
Here before this vid goes nuts
@@bbtrainproductions1225 I’m afraid you’re a little late, my friend
Excellent video my friends 😊awesome 😮Like 👍🏻 and Greeting 🙋 from Argentina 🇦🇷
this is the funniest thing ive seen all year
Yo that’s crazy luckily I wasn’t there that day 😅
Get that guy outta the way
Another Karen??
MWilliston was probably the dad that was in the way, so ignore him.
@@coasternamegenerator5611 you need to get your facts straight before you run your mouth. I’m not that family that Ben assaulted. WOW you’re just a bunch of incompetent children.
@@MWilliston no I know how yall act. You definitely are
@@MWillistonalso fyi, I’m 20 and sticking up for a railfan you’re pulling Karen shit on because you don’t wanna move
@@coasternamegenerator5611 I like how he deleted his comment 😆
@@SOU6900 shockingly he didn’t. I can still see his comments
And a trespassing
Bro dads be like
Btw you going to cape cod railfan day? If so you can tag along with me and my friends, if you have other friends they can tag along to.
@@NewEnglandRail Yeah, I’m going with a few friends. I want to chase at least one train but I’m not sure
@@BMMEC6000 I’m chasing the train in the morning and then spending the day at the yard
@@NewEnglandRail That’s probably what I’ll do
@@BMMEC6000 I’m probably going from Hyannis west Barnstable sandwich and then Bourne and back
you made a big mistake...
Now i’m gonna stand here
I understand what you’re saying, but he has as much of a right to be there as you do.
@@JasonWoods-d1v Yeah. That’s the frustrating thing. If he wasn’t on the charter, we could’ve easily kicked him out. But since he was on the charter, there was nothing more we could do than ask him to leave
As much of a right to be there, subject to the rules of the charter (if there are any that is). Many trips I've been on with photo freights had very clear rules about photo line etiquette and the repercussions if that etiquette was broken.
@@FastFlyingVirginianWhen the BigBoy 4014 came through Pacific Mo we had the same problems. It very frustrating but not a whole lot you can do about it.
@@JasonWoods-d1vyeah, I had a great video of her at Kirkwood MO that day and then some dude just popped right in front of my camera as she was coming around the curve. Iconic moment ruined…..
Comedy GOLD!!
I'm not taking sides here. I don't care. I just wonder what in the world is the big deal with all this? Why are people taking photos or videos of the train? Is this some kind of new thing?!
@@bachfan7537 Railfanning, or as some people call it, trainspotting has been around for over a century. It sometimes crosses into photography and cinematography. It’s just a bunch of people who like trains and enjoy taking pictures and or videos of them. This specific train was one that was specially assembled to celebrate a railroads 50th anniversary. It was a big hit for railfans. So to answer your question. We do it because we love it. And for some of us, it’s our careers
Just foamers being foamers is all
@@AbelG8781 you said it
@@BMMEC6000Amen
lmfao
Never heard of Photoshop?
@@phillipkalaveras1725 never heard of the golden rule of railfanning?
@@BMMEC6000 Thank you!
If you know of a software product that can remove unwanted objects from a moving image, let's hear it.
@@BMMEC6000 enlighten me Ben. What’s the golden rule of railfanning? Not sure rule exists. I have been railfnning and an engineer for years.
@@MWilliston You can stop calling me Ben. I don’t even know who you are. There are several “golden rules” in railfanning. One of the more widely known ones being the 180 degrees rule. That rule is that if you are railfanning with a group of people. You should make sure that you are not within a 180 degree radius from everyone’s cameras. If you don’t, you’ll be in their shot(s). Considering that almost everything you have said was a lie, I’m not sure if I believe that you’ve been an engineer. If you were one, what railroad did you work for? What locomotives did you operate?
Whats the big deal they are off to the side, you had a clear view down the track. Your entitlement lets you think you control what everyone does.
@@kennethmorgan7949 You clearly didn’t read the description or are a railfan so let me explain it for you. This was a private photo charter that this railroad put together. Basically, a bus follows the train to certain destinations where all the people get off the bus and take photos or videos of the train passing. The rule of these charters is to stay out of everyone’s way. At this location, everyone got off and formed a photo line at the end of the station. This is usually what everyone does at this location so the one or two people who didn’t join immediately eventually filed in. This guy refused to leave his spot after being told several time by both photographers and staff. For some people, this is their job. They take stuff like this very seriously and get upset when someone like this guy goes up and tries to ruin their shot. What should also be noted is that this guy intentionally blocked our shots. Apparently, he had his shot blocked at a different location and felt that he now had the right to block everyone’s shots. Please actually do your research before making bold accusations like that.
@@kennethmorgan7949 this kid is just an immature child that is throwing tantrum because he didn’t get his way and feels that he need to bully a family just out enjoys trains with his son.
Who is the real one throwing the tantrum here? Because you’re going through all these comments, replying and saying that I am “twisting the situation to my advantage”
@@MWillistonyou literally blocked everyone’s shot and stubbornly refused to move. Multiple people have called you out for it
@@MWillistonreal mature to go through every comment just to take a little stab that literally doesn’t mean jack to anything, nothing has changed and nothing will, please leave my friend alone and move on with your life.