I didn’t know folks were viewing that as an L for him. This man got in unnoticed and his only objective was to save Cobra. And wasn’t hit once until the one revelation startled him and he got pierced. Yet he still wanted to save Cobra but he was told to go pass on a message instead.
A logia can control individual parts of their body & change it to their elemental property. Also lets not be foolish here, the 5 Elders definitely have haki especially this late game into the story. It's like saying King, Queen, Jack didn't have any haki. Just because Oda doesn't show it doesn't mean the character doesn't have it. I'm sure that Sabo also doesn't have future sight though.
Bro it doesn’t matter wtf they can control being in direct physical contact with a heat source will burn you it’s literally called conduction. There’s no point where sabo could’ve been far enough from cobra for the residual heat not to affect him and dodge the attack. And plus like they said the attack would’ve hit cobra harder if sabo phased thru it
@@final2k565What are you watching. Sabo has literally used hi ability while carrying others, and or carried characters using his ability, with just turning his lower half, and jetting. Stop giving excuses that don't actually exist for Sabo. For the reason he was owned was him simply being weaker.
@@prophetgproductions But the indication, is literally hinted at. If you really understood how Haki solidifies Logia's, as shown plenty of times within the series. That in general stronger haki beats, weaker haki. And both are the only ways of of 3, that actually harm Logia's. It's safe to point that matter out as a cause, of why Sabo failed so hard.
@@peltycrikts6990 that's true, but it wasn't hinted at. Those 3 you mentioned are shown to use haki. But again, you cant assume a character has it just because they're in a top position, if its not indicated at all. Buggy is the emporer of the sea with tons of pirates following him, but he is not shown to use haki. Crocodile was a warlord and he doesn't use haki. Shirahoshi also doesnt use haki, and she's one of the 3 powers. There's more strong characters in high ranks that don't use haki, so you cant assume they have it just because they're in a high place of authority
Who tf is saying he’s weak?! The guy’s been impressive every panel he’s ever been on… Guy stormed Mary Geoise, fought admirals, saved** Cobra from a room occupied by Imu and the Gorosei and still managed to escape with a ridiculous amount of intel. He’s never looked weak the guy’s a beast’
This has been Sabos character, he is another man that just always seems to escape death. But in this situation the people he escaped from should not be taken lightly, even if he’s running away I’d say at this point Sabo is at least Yonko level in one aspect. All the Yonko have been some tanky fucks, powerful and fast. Even under the circumstances where they wouldn’t even consider Sabo a threat therefore he could easily get inside there the fact he made it out is insane. These guys are supposed to be some of the strongest people in the OP world
Saying that Sabo took that bullet to the chest knowingly is either power scaling his abilities or undermining the Government, Ace had the same fruit and had used it more longer and effectively and yet he died the same way with a fist to the chest, but what killed him wasn’t the fist but the magma from Akainu, I don’t think Sabo saw the bullet coming, I understand he didn’t have his flames up to not burn cobra but what we don’t know is how that dark power affects logia users, Ace was defeated while having his flames on his chest. What I don’t understand is how an injured almost crippled Sabo, escapes from the supposed “six of the strongest” characters in one piece. That part doesn’t make any sense especially when Sabo was right in front of them!! Like they were able to snipe this man’s through the chest while he was running at top speed with Cobra, and now that he’s on the floor crippled seething in pain they all of a sudden can’t catch him??
Idk how the flame flame physics work but when ace got freed at marineford,he was holding Luffy while his power was active sooo the logic that sabo’s power wasn’t active doesn’t make sense
I think the gorosei just use a broken devil fruit abilities and some basic haki, they can't even sense that there's someone else's presence in that room with observation.
Sabo really looks like Shanks, he's basically the same his scar, hairstyle and background story coming from the celestial dragons and being brought up by pirates.
Bro I read somewhere sabo mid cause he nearly got packed up at mariejois. Like mans didn’t come face to face with potentially the end game villain and her 5 strongest bodyguards. The fact he survived just proves he’s the goat
Ace didn’t burn luffy with his flames in marineford when they freed ace. Also logia users if they are good enough with the fruit can activate it in specific areas to dodge attacks
He was protecting cobra why would he dodge that specific area. Your just like people saying Ace cant have haki or great observation when Akainu was able to hit him while he was protecting Luffy. If he dodged it would just go straight to Luffy and it would him blocking the way is useless.
people take strong characters getting defeated as that character being weak when it’s meant to showcase how strong the character that beat them is, this is especially the case with shanks and kid
Yeah if u think current sabo was beating the 5 elders and imu your out your mind lmao 🤣 sabo needs major upgrade awakening possibly and a haki boost like learning advanced like luffy
@@davidmccain4126never really seen him go all out and we can't root out his haki, he's had haki for a very long time and we've seen him become 2nd in command before he devil fruit. He just doesn't get much showins, as in proper fights
Some One Piece fans tend to forget Kaido's famous quote: "You weren't weak, they were stronger." Like bro, most of the endgame characters can dogwalk 6 80% of their verse, just some at the top, are stronger than others at the top. Mihawk can still clap half any decent paradise crew. Midd could still tank a big mom attack.
Sabo is strong, the fact that he is the no. 2 of the revolutionary army should say enough but no, instead of realising how madly strong the 5 wise men have to be in order to toy Sabo around like this we really start a discussion that Sabo must be weak and isn't all that. How ridiculous!
Does being second in command matter though we have had many fake 🤡. Is katakuri able to solo big mom now because he’s second in command. Or is buggy able to solo admirals because he’s a yonko. Is crocodile marineford) as strong as mihawk because he’s a warlord to? No that means nothing I want to see real feats in strength not just ranks . If we really wanna say that Kong soloes every yonko right 🤡
Never thought about it that way. But nonetheless he’s up against 6 top tier final villains what more needs to be said ? Power scaling is fun and all but mfs get so toxic that head canon is reality 😂
Let be frank, sabo would mess up dudes like cracker or jack. He is by no means weak. His injuries and need of s recovery period was how strong the elders were. I would be surprised if the gorsei had god knights training before taking up thier post
he would demolish katakuri mid diff lol u comapre trash wci luffy to sabo lol luffy not even close when sabo know armament luffy didnot even know what haki was lol u understand that cracker did way better vs luffy then trash katakur the pridefull trash commander
@@CapGodSamasounds like headcannon , we never even seen him fight anybody to see how serious he had to get to combat sabo even of he wasn't trying to win he still had to defend himself
@justagemini9593 then what do u make of dressrosa luffy vs fujitora? Its simple he was suppressed and was heavily holding back its not my headcannon bro
So Sabo gets attacked by the god king of the world and people are surprised Imu has haki? Sabo just Leeroy Jankins the final boss is all. Him getting out alive is the best he could've hoped for.
@@rutsg8449 yeah but some of them were just casually having a drink and reading newspapers if I remember correctly I don't think they were on edge but if it was 1 on 1 then maybe but they had Themselves (the Gorosei) Imu The Holy Knights and that Figarland guy (I don't remember if they're all on same island) they had nothing to worry about and with the latest chapters it makes sense why I don't think Shanks alone stands a chance against all of them
@@FireCaT- yes true I’m not sure where I saw it but they said that making kaido angry was a mistake and they also feared an enraged kaido or shanks hopefully some one piece knowledge wizard can help us out in this thread im sure I read that somewhere. But gorosei are crazy strong my boy sabo messing around with end game bosses and making it out alive 😭😂
@@rutsg8449 Well yeah I think an angered Kaido (or Shanks) would be a tough fight for anyone in the verse especially when he's not having to carry everyone plus he's an absolute tank and yeah fair play to Sabo for escaping the final bosses
If you hit a logia user while they sleep (no haki) your fist would be caught in w.e the element is. It should’ve hit sabo entirely. There’s more to back this up like luffy vs croc
What if the elders are just manifestations of Imus devil fruit which could be the upgraded form of Morias devil fruit, instead of the shadow fruit that steals shadows he is the manifestation of shadows? Shadow logia instead of darkness logia like BB. Who knows
Sabo is a logia he is always fire he can’t turn it off we learn that from ace and oars jr when ace was making a hat for him he burned a few by accident
@@d-space1935re you implying that Akainu doesn't have armament haki that Ace HAVE to turn off his DF to protect Luffy? Ace just didn't dodge like Katakuri when he was protecting Luffy but he doesn't need to have annon and off switch for his DF. I think in sabo's case it's more of gorosei have haki and sabo was protecting cobra so he didn't dodge the way katakuri did because he wants to reduce the damage to cobra not because he doesn't want to burn cobra
Sabo has used his ablility carrying people at the same time, carried others using his ability. As Logia can control which body parts, turn into fire, he can also control the temp. Sabo lost because he was weak, there's literally no excuse in that scene, to be used for Sabo. Fuji never batted an eye, and was unbothered, with Sabo who litearlly used all his fire against him. That's his level, failing against a Admiral. So Sabo was never weak because he was beaten, he was just aleeady weaker than anyone stronger.
While i do believe that the Mera Mera no mi can make flames that dont burn or arent hot I don't think Sabo has that mastery of the fruit yet like Ace did
The Gorosei are The Five Elder Planets, “Warrior Gods” serving under Imu. Not to call Marco King or Katakuri weak by any means, but it’d be a bit of a reach to say that they can take on the Gorosei.
@@BreakingBernz They aren't weak, but the other dudes are that strong. We already know that Admirals are expected to be able to handle two Yonko commanders at once. Greenbull made that clear when he took out King and Queen together...that if he lost, they'd laugh him out of the Admirals. So even if Sabo couldn't take them, they would be five commander level fighters at once...
even if he did have his power active. if the arrow had haki it woulda fucked him up. & i think those arrows move deceptively fast if theyre just clocking him no problem
@@vaughnjackson6297 Nope, they can pick and choose how they do it. For example, Aokiji in Marineford intentionally made a hole through his torso with his intangibility in order to get around getting stabbed by Whitebeard who was using haki.
@@vaughnjackson6297 i cant remember when but iirc someone was attacked from behind and it connected.... my statement is refering to the idea that imu was indeed using haki though
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Yeah if u think current sabo was beating the 5 elders and imu your out your mind lmao 🤣 sabo needs major upgrade awakening possibly and a haki boost like learning advanced like luffy
nah im ngl oda made sabo look mid, him and cobra look like they have relative levels of endurance lmao. But yea sabo definitely aint weak, imu is just cracked most likely
I'm telling you man Alabasta Kingdom is just built different. Cobra faced the king of the world on a wheelchair and survives. A butler got their boat bomb and survived. A bird was holding a nuke point blank range and walked it off like it's just a minor inconvenience
Sabo isn’t weak the gorsei are just incredibly strong they’re literally the force of the world government right under imu meaning besides imu they’re the strongest fighters in the entire world government and they’re the only ones who imu trusted with the truth meaning they’re exceptionally powerful sabo is strong but they’re on a whole other level we saw imu swallow sabos fire they may have corrupted devil fruits too so we can’t really say how strong they are but the gorsei and imu may even be the final villains because imu is said to be the strongest in the show right now and the gorsei having shown their power aren’t far behind on that list
Who running around tryna power scale Sabo give it a rest bro 1v1 (lost but put up a decent fight) with a admiral and I would get into the manga feats but come on we all know Sabo is top 25 in the verse at least
I think you read to far into man. We are talking about a man who Fuji played with, and Sabo was visibly upsetting despite Fuji not going all out. Sabo also never truly had the down time the straw hats or other crews had. This man is fighting in covert missions, idk how strong he is but maybe he realized he cant be a sissy to do these missions lol.
Sabo had no reason to go all out. His mission was to expose, and destroy the weapons smuggling port Doffy was using to ship out weapons to continue wars and then get out. Not defeat an admiral. Clearly Sabo is not to be messed with considering he was made the number 2 in the Revolutionary Army BEFORE even getting his devil fruit.
@@itsprecept He has to be strong, I agree but to be that upset over just a random fight? If he had a mission and finished it or was covering for other, why get mad. Fuji was not attacking civilians, or messing up the straw hats too bad. Sabo legit was getting toyed with at this point in time.
@@The2010DC And what's your point? We already know that an Admiral is expected to be able to take two Yonko commanders at once. This is a thing Greenbull pointed out...that if he lost they would laugh him out of the Admirals... meaning that minimum you have to be as strong as Wano Marco who could struggle against two at once and Greenbull said that if he was Marco strong...people would laugh.
@@LupineShadowOmega idk about 2 admirals. My point was this guy is a bit goofy going off saying Sabo was on this mission because he thought he could handle anything they through at him. This dude really thought Sabo was admiral level. His main expertise at this point was essentially infiltration. Possibly strong enough to escape but not just duke it out and win. This man was talking like he was expected to be almost at the Gorosei level.
He literally survived a fight against 6 of the strongest people in the entire series, all at the same time while trying to protect a King. You’re out of your mind to think that Sabo and Sanji are equal. Catch up on story or learn how to follow narrative.
@@xTHEELYSIANx you’re GAWKING the Strawhats heavy buddy. Zoro and Sanji are complete trash once you pit them in the same scenario Sabo was in. While evading 6 END OF STORY attackers, sabo still got himself out of there. You really know nothing about narrative. Learn to read, take in a writers narrative, and take Odas meat out your mouth
I would've to disagree it's not turning his power off or on it's the Strength of the haki user would over power that like law said in the fight against big mom he couldn't use room on her
people take strong characters getting defeated as that character being weak when it’s meant to showcase how strong the character that beat them is, this is especially the case with shanks and kid
The fact he was able to escape alive with all that information is enough proof. Was everyone expecting him to fight all gorosei at the same time?😂
Exactly
All the while wapol watching him get mopped😂
@@trenttaylor6723lol
I didn’t know folks were viewing that as an L for him. This man got in unnoticed and his only objective was to save Cobra. And wasn’t hit once until the one revelation startled him and he got pierced. Yet he still wanted to save Cobra but he was told to go pass on a message instead.
@@lthughes Finally someone who understands
A logia can control individual parts of their body & change it to their elemental property. Also lets not be foolish here, the 5 Elders definitely have haki especially this late game into the story. It's like saying King, Queen, Jack didn't have any haki. Just because Oda doesn't show it doesn't mean the character doesn't have it. I'm sure that Sabo also doesn't have future sight though.
Bro it doesn’t matter wtf they can control being in direct physical contact with a heat source will burn you it’s literally called conduction. There’s no point where sabo could’ve been far enough from cobra for the residual heat not to affect him and dodge the attack. And plus like they said the attack would’ve hit cobra harder if sabo phased thru it
@@final2k565What are you watching. Sabo has literally used hi ability while carrying others, and or carried characters using his ability, with just turning his lower half, and jetting.
Stop giving excuses that don't actually exist for Sabo. For the reason he was owned was him simply being weaker.
That's exactly what that means actually. You cant assume something in a story if there's no indication of it to exist
@@prophetgproductions But the indication, is literally hinted at. If you really understood how Haki solidifies Logia's, as shown plenty of times within the series. That in general stronger haki beats, weaker haki. And both are the only ways of of 3, that actually harm Logia's.
It's safe to point that matter out as a cause, of why Sabo failed so hard.
@@peltycrikts6990 that's true, but it wasn't hinted at. Those 3 you mentioned are shown to use haki. But again, you cant assume a character has it just because they're in a top position, if its not indicated at all. Buggy is the emporer of the sea with tons of pirates following him, but he is not shown to use haki. Crocodile was a warlord and he doesn't use haki. Shirahoshi also doesnt use haki, and she's one of the 3 powers. There's more strong characters in high ranks that don't use haki, so you cant assume they have it just because they're in a high place of authority
Who tf is saying he’s weak?! The guy’s been impressive every panel he’s ever been on… Guy stormed Mary Geoise, fought admirals, saved** Cobra from a room occupied by Imu and the Gorosei and still managed to escape with a ridiculous amount of intel. He’s never looked weak the guy’s a beast’
This has been Sabos character, he is another man that just always seems to escape death. But in this situation the people he escaped from should not be taken lightly, even if he’s running away I’d say at this point Sabo is at least Yonko level in one aspect. All the Yonko have been some tanky fucks, powerful and fast. Even under the circumstances where they wouldn’t even consider Sabo a threat therefore he could easily get inside there the fact he made it out is insane. These guys are supposed to be some of the strongest people in the OP world
Sabo is an escape artist idk why nobody’s catching the reference lowkey
The question of the Day, is sabo stronger than luffy without gear five
Saying that Sabo took that bullet to the chest knowingly is either power scaling his abilities or undermining the Government, Ace had the same fruit and had used it more longer and effectively and yet he died the same way with a fist to the chest, but what killed him wasn’t the fist but the magma from Akainu, I don’t think Sabo saw the bullet coming, I understand he didn’t have his flames up to not burn cobra but what we don’t know is how that dark power affects logia users, Ace was defeated while having his flames on his chest. What I don’t understand is how an injured almost crippled Sabo, escapes from the supposed “six of the strongest” characters in one piece. That part doesn’t make any sense especially when Sabo was right in front of them!! Like they were able to snipe this man’s through the chest while he was running at top speed with Cobra, and now that he’s on the floor crippled seething in pain they all of a sudden can’t catch him??
Ofc his flame isn’t up, he only just acquired the fruit he hasn’t trained to make it react on instinct like crocodile etc.
Idk how the flame flame physics work but when ace got freed at marineford,he was holding Luffy while his power was active sooo the logic that sabo’s power wasn’t active doesn’t make sense
I think the gorosei just use a broken devil fruit abilities and some basic haki, they can't even sense that there's someone else's presence in that room with observation.
Sabo really looks like Shanks, he's basically the same his scar, hairstyle and background story coming from the celestial dragons and being brought up by pirates.
yoo hold up a sec
Bro I read somewhere sabo mid cause he nearly got packed up at mariejois. Like mans didn’t come face to face with potentially the end game villain and her 5 strongest bodyguards. The fact he survived just proves he’s the goat
That man went to the end game and came back alive yet people want to say he is weak lol
Ace didn’t burn luffy with his flames in marineford when they freed ace. Also logia users if they are good enough with the fruit can activate it in specific areas to dodge attacks
He was protecting cobra why would he dodge that specific area. Your just like people saying Ace cant have haki or great observation when Akainu was able to hit him while he was protecting Luffy. If he dodged it would just go straight to Luffy and it would him blocking the way is useless.
people take strong characters getting defeated as that character being weak when it’s meant to showcase how strong the character that beat them is, this is especially the case with shanks and kid
Hey guys i really like this channel i found you recently and these are some great One Piece talks. Sabo is a beast i agree he is not weak.
Sabo is that guy
what makes sabo considered weak? not many people live after seeing imu 😅
Son to date only two people that aren’t Gorosei have 😭😭 thats a feat in itself
sabo is literally trying to escape against the endgame boss he's insanely strong
Yeah if u think current sabo was beating the 5 elders and imu your out your mind lmao 🤣 sabo needs major upgrade awakening possibly and a haki boost like learning advanced like luffy
@@davidmccain4126never really seen him go all out and we can't root out his haki, he's had haki for a very long time and we've seen him become 2nd in command before he devil fruit. He just doesn't get much showins, as in proper fights
what people forget that sabo has been a revolutionary for 10+ harden to the battlefield. so staying calm under pressure shouldn't be an issue.
You make a good point.
Some One Piece fans tend to forget Kaido's famous quote: "You weren't weak, they were stronger." Like bro, most of the endgame characters can dogwalk 6
80% of their verse, just some at the top, are stronger than others at the top. Mihawk can still clap half any decent paradise crew. Midd could still tank a big mom attack.
Kidd niggah pit some respect on his grave😂
Sabo is strong, the fact that he is the no. 2 of the revolutionary army should say enough but no, instead of realising how madly strong the 5 wise men have to be in order to toy Sabo around like this we really start a discussion that Sabo must be weak and isn't all that. How ridiculous!
Efffing exactly, cannlt fathom this stupidity
Like kiddie powerscalers always saying goku f's up everybody
Thats not even funny anymore
Does being second in command matter though we have had many fake 🤡. Is katakuri able to solo big mom now because he’s second in command. Or is buggy able to solo admirals because he’s a yonko. Is crocodile marineford) as strong as mihawk because he’s a warlord to? No that means nothing I want to see real feats in strength not just ranks . If we really wanna say that Kong soloes every yonko right 🤡
Never thought about it that way. But nonetheless he’s up against 6 top tier final villains what more needs to be said ? Power scaling is fun and all but mfs get so toxic that head canon is reality 😂
This actually brings up a strange question: does imu know haki?
Thank you! Sabo earn that Flame Emperor title, but that Mu attack had that boy grounded.
Let be frank, sabo would mess up dudes like cracker or jack. He is by no means weak. His injuries and need of s recovery period was how strong the elders were. I would be surprised if the gorsei had god knights training before taking up thier post
King is easy for sabo.dude was fighting a admiral😂.king and queen got washed by an admiral
@@vaughnjackson6297fujitora was not trying to stomp sabo otherwise he would've king and queens situation is differently from sabos
he would demolish katakuri mid diff lol u comapre trash wci luffy to sabo lol luffy not even close when sabo know armament luffy didnot even know what haki was lol u understand that cracker did way better vs luffy then trash katakur the pridefull trash commander
@@CapGodSamasounds like headcannon , we never even seen him fight anybody to see how serious he had to get to combat sabo even of he wasn't trying to win he still had to defend himself
@justagemini9593 then what do u make of dressrosa luffy vs fujitora? Its simple he was suppressed and was heavily holding back its not my headcannon bro
So Sabo gets attacked by the god king of the world and people are surprised Imu has haki? Sabo just Leeroy Jankins the final boss is all. Him getting out alive is the best he could've hoped for.
The Gorosei werent even sweating when Shanks pulled up i dont expect them to be wary about Sabo
Maybe not sweating but they definitely were on edge they fear shanks and kaido
@@rutsg8449 yeah but some of them were just casually having a drink and reading newspapers if I remember correctly I don't think they were on edge but if it was 1 on 1 then maybe but they had Themselves (the Gorosei) Imu The Holy Knights and that Figarland guy (I don't remember if they're all on same island) they had nothing to worry about and with the latest chapters it makes sense why I don't think Shanks alone stands a chance against all of them
@@FireCaT- yes true I’m not sure where I saw it but they said that making kaido angry was a mistake and they also feared an enraged kaido or shanks hopefully some one piece knowledge wizard can help us out in this thread im sure I read that somewhere. But gorosei are crazy strong my boy sabo messing around with end game bosses and making it out alive 😭😂
@@rutsg8449 Well yeah I think an angered Kaido (or Shanks) would be a tough fight for anyone in the verse especially when he's not having to carry everyone plus he's an absolute tank and yeah fair play to Sabo for escaping the final bosses
That’s because they respect shanks, even more than the fleet admiral, and most likely have ties with shanks.
I think it have been said when Luffy saved Ace that he can control who he the flames burns when he wants
sabo is revolutionary, they change the world without killing like gol d roger , dragon , Benjamin Franklin,
I use to think he was as strong as luffy
If you hit a logia user while they sleep (no haki) your fist would be caught in w.e the element is. It should’ve hit sabo entirely. There’s more to back this up like luffy vs croc
Can you just imagine if they were like zoan gods like you could really think about it fr
People forget he trained by dragon, use haki and was op before the devil fruit but everyone got they opinion though.
Pain and his 6 paths
People are dramatically underestimating the gorosei
Sabo really him 😤
Theory: imu has a fruit like morias and the gorosei are actually just imus creations
I agree with and second this theory. Let’s see how it plays out in the future! 👍
What if the elders are just manifestations of Imus devil fruit which could be the upgraded form of Morias devil fruit, instead of the shadow fruit that steals shadows he is the manifestation of shadows? Shadow logia instead of darkness logia like BB. Who knows
Sabo was was on the ground after 1 attacks whiles cobra took 2 arrows and stood up to protect sabo also remember hes a cripple
that is not how logias work at all, your body is the element itself
All he had to do was use arm haki. That arrow thing would probably bounce off.
I’m seeing the Gorosei fitting to make an example of Sabo. Ace died 1st War maybe Sabo next
Sabo is a logia he is always fire he can’t turn it off we learn that from ace and oars jr when ace was making a hat for him he burned a few by accident
He should be able to turn it off. Thats the whole reason why Ace got a hole in him protecting Luffy
@@d-space1935re you implying that Akainu doesn't have armament haki that Ace HAVE to turn off his DF to protect Luffy? Ace just didn't dodge like Katakuri when he was protecting Luffy but he doesn't need to have annon and off switch for his DF. I think in sabo's case it's more of gorosei have haki and sabo was protecting cobra so he didn't dodge the way katakuri did because he wants to reduce the damage to cobra not because he doesn't want to burn cobra
Sabo has used his ablility carrying people at the same time, carried others using his ability. As Logia can control which body parts, turn into fire, he can also control the temp.
Sabo lost because he was weak, there's literally no excuse in that scene, to be used for Sabo.
Fuji never batted an eye, and was unbothered, with Sabo who litearlly used all his fire against him. That's his level, failing against a Admiral.
So Sabo was never weak because he was beaten, he was just aleeady weaker than anyone stronger.
bruh no shot we're having this conversation lol
What happened this channel doesn’t upload anymore
The 5 elders definately all have haki
While i do believe that the Mera Mera no mi can make flames that dont burn or arent hot I don't think Sabo has that mastery of the fruit yet like Ace did
Bravo Fellas
I believe Imu is Yonko level while the Gorosei are 1st commander level ranking in between the likes of Marco, King And Katakuri.
The Gorosei are The Five Elder Planets, “Warrior Gods” serving under Imu. Not to call Marco King or Katakuri weak by any means, but it’d be a bit of a reach to say that they can take on the Gorosei.
@@BreakingBernz They aren't weak, but the other dudes are that strong. We already know that Admirals are expected to be able to handle two Yonko commanders at once. Greenbull made that clear when he took out King and Queen together...that if he lost, they'd laugh him out of the Admirals.
So even if Sabo couldn't take them, they would be five commander level fighters at once...
What about imu davil fruit can transform their people around him?
even if he did have his power active. if the arrow had haki it woulda fucked him up.
& i think those arrows move deceptively fast if theyre just clocking him no problem
Isnt logia intangiblility automatic,i dont think its a thing they activate
@@vaughnjackson6297 Nope, they can pick and choose how they do it. For example, Aokiji in Marineford intentionally made a hole through his torso with his intangibility in order to get around getting stabbed by Whitebeard who was using haki.
@@vaughnjackson6297 i cant remember when but iirc someone was attacked from behind and it connected....
my statement is refering to the idea that imu was indeed using haki though
Still time for him to grow
Are the gorosei warrior gods?
I wanna watch y’all but I go to your channel and can’t find nothing like these shorts y’all post 🤷🏾♂️ I’m not finna sift through a 3 hour stream hire a editor pls
straight up thought that was andrew tate
Yeah if u think current sabo was beating the 5 elders and imu your out your mind lmao 🤣 sabo needs major upgrade awakening possibly and a haki boost like learning advanced like luffy
Wait. My dumbass thought those were shadow monsters attacking sabo. Those are the gorosei?
nah im ngl oda made sabo look mid, him and cobra look like they have relative levels of endurance lmao. But yea sabo definitely aint weak, imu is just cracked most likely
I'm telling you man Alabasta Kingdom is just built different. Cobra faced the king of the world on a wheelchair and survives. A butler got their boat bomb and survived. A bird was holding a nuke point blank range and walked it off like it's just a minor inconvenience
How is that? Because in marineford Ace didn’t burn Luffy when he used his powers
Same thing with ace and luffy ace would have been Gucci but then luffy would have died
Sabo weak?!!
After that?! Lmao
Sabo isn’t weak the gorsei are just incredibly strong they’re literally the force of the world government right under imu meaning besides imu they’re the strongest fighters in the entire world government and they’re the only ones who imu trusted with the truth meaning they’re exceptionally powerful sabo is strong but they’re on a whole other level we saw imu swallow sabos fire they may have corrupted devil fruits too so we can’t really say how strong they are but the gorsei and imu may even be the final villains because imu is said to be the strongest in the show right now and the gorsei having shown their power aren’t far behind on that list
Idk about the ability being off thing, I just think the Gorosei are that strong. Sabo is in no way weak, I think fhe Gorosei are strong asf.
However I do still think Zoan users
Who running around tryna power scale Sabo give it a rest bro 1v1 (lost but put up a decent fight) with a admiral and I would get into the manga feats but come on we all know Sabo is top 25 in the verse at least
Sabo is comparable Katakuri King and Marco
I think you read to far into man. We are talking about a man who Fuji played with, and Sabo was visibly upsetting despite Fuji not going all out. Sabo also never truly had the down time the straw hats or other crews had. This man is fighting in covert missions, idk how strong he is but maybe he realized he cant be a sissy to do these missions lol.
Sabo wasnt going allout either and he just got the fruit too
Sabo had no reason to go all out. His mission was to expose, and destroy the weapons smuggling port Doffy was using to ship out weapons to continue wars and then get out.
Not defeat an admiral. Clearly Sabo is not to be messed with considering he was made the number 2 in the Revolutionary Army BEFORE even getting his devil fruit.
@@itsprecept He has to be strong, I agree but to be that upset over just a random fight? If he had a mission and finished it or was covering for other, why get mad. Fuji was not attacking civilians, or messing up the straw hats too bad. Sabo legit was getting toyed with at this point in time.
@@The2010DC And what's your point? We already know that an Admiral is expected to be able to take two Yonko commanders at once. This is a thing Greenbull pointed out...that if he lost they would laugh him out of the Admirals... meaning that minimum you have to be as strong as Wano Marco who could struggle against two at once and Greenbull said that if he was Marco strong...people would laugh.
@@LupineShadowOmega idk about 2 admirals. My point was this guy is a bit goofy going off saying Sabo was on this mission because he thought he could handle anything they through at him. This dude really thought Sabo was admiral level. His main expertise at this point was essentially infiltration. Possibly strong enough to escape but not just duke it out and win. This man was talking like he was expected to be almost at the Gorosei level.
The cope I crazy 💀💀💀 like armament haki doesn’t exist or observation haki.
Tops of the world vs Sabo
And survive..
Mu just that strong
Bro he was wounded like a Dog after one attack of them. Sabo isnt as strong as people seems him.
LET HIM COOK
Sabo Can beat kaido
Guys you have some of the WORST takes on this story lmfao
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No sabo is sanji level i don’t understand why y’all think he’s stronger than that
He literally survived a fight against 6 of the strongest people in the entire series, all at the same time while trying to protect a King. You’re out of your mind to think that Sabo and Sanji are equal. Catch up on story or learn how to follow narrative.
@@BreakingBernz Sabo is not strong kid, cry about it, zoro kills sabo high difficulty, sanji kills sabo extreme dif. Stay mad.
@@BreakingBernz Sabo literally got 1 shot. The king had to carry his body away to safety. You clearly have zero clue what your talking about
@otacon412 The same strongest people who couldn't 1 shot Cobra? Either Cobra is Top 15 in verse or they aren't that strong.
@@xTHEELYSIANx you’re GAWKING the Strawhats heavy buddy. Zoro and Sanji are complete trash once you pit them in the same scenario Sabo was in. While evading 6 END OF STORY attackers, sabo still got himself out of there. You really know nothing about narrative. Learn to read, take in a writers narrative, and take Odas meat out your mouth
I would've to disagree it's not turning his power off or on it's the Strength of the haki user would over power that like law said in the fight against big mom he couldn't use room on her
people take strong characters getting defeated as that character being weak when it’s meant to showcase how strong the character that beat them is, this is especially the case with shanks and kid