You call this a dlc? This is not a dlc, it should be an update. What were steel wool studios thinking??? If you're going to make a dlc then put a monty level and a mimic level.
In the Mimic story, Edwin turns Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy mascot costumes into animatronics while working for Fazbear, so he was involved with the production of these characters in some way. We'll probably see the old Fazbear mascot suits and maybe even unfinished/prototype animatronics in the factory.
The only problem with that for the games, is that thanks to the lore of FNAF 2.. Fazbears didn't exist until at least 1983. Before that it was only Fredbears Family Diner, owned by a completely different owner. Seriously, check the Night 5 phone call for FNAF 2.
I think the zipper could also be for a voice box of some kind, like the plushies that have buttons in the hands that activate voice lines or something like that.
You call this a dlc? This is not a dlc, it should be an update. What were steel wool studios thinking??? If you're going to make a dlc then put a monty level and a mimic level.
I also noticed that the blue van looks like the van from the loading dock ending in security breach, that could support the theory of Vanessa and Gregory driving MXES to the pizzaplex to attempt to seal away the mimic for good.
One detail I'm surprised you didn't notice is that the Tiger Rock plushie is a dead ringer for Vanny's costume. The eyes, pupils, the color pallete, the toe and finger beans, the whiskers, even the spaced-out expression. It seems like the Vanny suit was inspired by both Glitchtrap and the Tiger Rock doll.
@@AngelTheory-M Cassidy is still tormenting William Afton in hell, and Cassidy has absolutely zero reason to return, because she already has William Afton in her clutches and has zero reason to care about some random robots.
@AngelTheory-M nightmarionne is just a nightmare from the crying child And lefty? Seriously? You missed a huge part of the FNAF 6 lore Cassidy is the fifth child of the 1985 mci
There is also a sun and moon in the glass too. This could confirm the daycare attendant is much older then people first thought. EDIT: wow I did not expect so may likes and comments.
The Sun/Moon window we can see on the building could imply that Daycare Attendant was created WAY before, he has the same teeth as the Mimic, he also seems to be a bit "wooden" in Security Breach, and his own level in Help Wanted 2 with the carousel could mean he's been involved in Fall Fest and Fazbear Entertainment just "upgraded" him for the Daycare in Pizza Plex
see i think the mimic costume is potentially sun too. everyone thinks its a lion but with how destroyed and decayed it is, yeah it could look like a lion especially w the spikey bits on suns head. i think all along it was supposed to be sun but people just ran with the idea of it being a lion. and sun/moon are in charge of the day care, if the mimic was trying to kill people surely itd be more likely to pick suns costume because if theres a lost kid theyre going to think that suns going to help reunite them with their parents rather than brutally murdering them.
The details on the tiger rock plushy looks a CRAZY amount like the details of vanny's costume. The bottoms of the feet are so similar with the shoddily stiched paw pads and overall shape, as well as the big plastic eyes with outward facing slit pupils, and the whiskers also stand out to me. Makes me wonder if whoever made Vanny's costume in-universe also made the Tiger Rock mascot costume.
Also, this connection is not as important, but the same caravan that is depicted on the stained glass window is the same caravan you can see as part of the environment when you play fazer blast with Carnie at fall fest.
The triangles are also referenced in The Storyteller. When Edwin is trapped in the Baobab tree, one of his drawings is described as "a triangle within triangles"
@@KickAssSamuel That’s a fair point, you never know. Another thing to keep in mind is the history of the franchise, stuff isn’t just thrown around and details aren’t put there for fun
One detail i think is interesting, is that the building says "Masks" and we have theorized Sun and Moon are some of the very first mascots, which is also interesting, because in Ruin, there are Comedy and Tragedy masks respectively, both of which look like Sun and Moon, and said Masks have a different design to the other masks in the games, possibly hinting at a different creator, said creator is probably Edwin.
The most fascinating detail is the stained glass mural. Containing Bonnie, Golden Freddy (or Fredbear), with Sun, Moon and Eclipse. The purple gems look like ties. Also just the factory itself looking like it comes straight from Fall Fest!
It could be just that since Fazbear bought out Edwin's company they still own it, so there might be some remnants left of it on the building Also important to note is that the logo is a series of triangles within triangles, which match the symbols found around Edwin after his death in The Storyteller and the wall code in SB
a lil detail not alot of people have talked about is on the stained glass art there's also a Sun and Moon? maybe we'll get like a shiny new versions of sun and moon in the game? :o
I feel like the house thing looks like a haunted house, ya know the type you sometimes see at amusement parks and circus’ ya know- looks like a kind of crooked house. So excited to find out what it really is
My guess: The zipper may hold something/act as a storage device. This is due to the zipper not going all the way down, stopping at the halfway point in the back. Given the apparent hollowness of it too, it's possible. Or hell, it may be a plushie representation of the mimic; a costume with a beast inside.
You call this a dlc? This is not a dlc, it should be an update. What were steel wool studios thinking??? If you're going to make a dlc then put a monty level and a mimic level.
Did anyone notice when we looked at the Bonnie and Freddy in the stained glass window, that there was also a sun and moon? Not sure if that means anything but you never know
Also there are two crystal shapes on Bonnie and Freddy respectively(most likely tying them to Afton and Henry) and a third unconnected one hanging(Most likely Edwin)
In a way, Sun and Moon could be symbolic to Afton and Henry once working together (light and dark, good and bad idk), and what traehignight said, the third unconnected one could be Edwin, which kinda connects back to Eclipse (like being the one linking both Sun and Moon together in order to function, so Edwin working together with Afton and Henry in building up their business). I don’t know, take it with a grain of salt.😅
the parallels with the sun and moon representing the bear and rabbit speaks a lot for both the daycare attendant and william and henry. Eclipse could then maybe be showing us that they had to work together after being at odds to do something >.> hmm idk but im gonna go back and look at sun and moon differently with the context of them being reflections of them from now
Why does the daycare attendant have so much symbolism? He has the duality thing going on which can represent Vanessa and Vanny. He has certain attributes that like the wire that link him to the puppet in some ways. There is light and dark motif which remind me of Golden Freddy and Shadow Freddy as well as remnant and agony. He has teeth that are a similar style to the Mimic which implies he’s older than we think. And now we have this mural which has Bonnie as moon and Freddy as sun which obviously mean William and Henry. (Also here’s wild prediction, we are going to see the eclipse from the BB world mini game in SOTM)
0:48 About zip: Some Comapnies, they put voice boxes inside the plushies, and to make it easier to change the batteries, there is a slider But it is possible that there is simply cotton inside the plushie and to make the work easier for the workers, this slider was added. I think that this is an interesting detail.
This MCM logo looks like a candy, which is fitting for a candy store. But it also reminds me of the SB wall code with triangles. The very one that Mimic and David created in the books, and which Edwin used to draw on papers in "The Storyteller". Coincidence? I think not! Also, is that barcode leading to anything?
The photo of the building in the puzzle looks like an earlier photo took before it got sold off to Fazbear entertainment (there is no stained glass in puzzle version and 3d building lacks some of the paint that the building had in its photo) so back when that puzzle was made it was probably just Edwin making puzzles around things in his company. Don’t know if anyone has noticed this already?
When you talked about that tiger rock plush looks like a mascot, I think about it and maybe in the end mimic will be in the tiger rock costume, this will be something like that final bossfight.
MCM from what I’ve looked up stands for “Man Crash Monday” I have a feeling that this is a nod to David’s death when a van ran him over. And it’s possible that William himself ran over David, on Monday! But idk
@@Cross_Corp64 oh….then I need to tell you that “man crush Monday” is not and has never been a fnaf reference… “man crush Monday” is a social media trend from like 10 years ago where you post a photo of the guy you’re currently crushing on, on Monday. Then you hashtag the photo “man crush Monday”.
Spring Bonnie is said to be Afton’s creation in the novels, sp he’s definitely Henry’s partner by 1979 going off the Fredbear posters in the demo. They probably met at Fallfest years earlier, hence all the references throughout the newer games despite the fact SOTM doesn’t even take place there.
i think that this game will take place during the change from fredbears to freddys, this explains why its normal blur bonnie and freddy in the window instead of the yellow rabbit and fredbear as they are trying to cover them up bc of the bite.
Things I think. 1. Seeing how Glitchtrap is now Supposedly gone I think Tiger-Rock is now gone be the new Modern Mimic Threat, I also think Tiger-Rock is gonna team up with Vanny (Now in Cassie’s Mimd). 2. I think the Van could either be the Van that killed David in the Story or Henry and/or Edwin taking the Mxes console to the fnaf 6 location. 3. I personally believe that Jackie herself isn’t the Mimic but I do think 1 of 2 things, 1: the Mimic somehow takes Jackie’s Animatronic Suit/Shell and puts it on to keep itself hidden and drive us. 2: Jackie is a part of the Mimic Branch and is being Controlled by the Programming itself. 4. I think theirs a 50/50% chance that rather than actually going back to 1979 we’re gonna play as someone in the modern era that’s gonna be Exploring and Investigating places Connected to what happened in 1979 and come across things such as VHS’s - Film Reels and Animatronics. 5. In the Tales Book it’s said that Fazbear Entertainment once had an entire line of Mimic Endoskeletons but they were all decommissioned due to Mimicking humans in ways they weren’t suppose to, it might be possible that during Secret of the Mimic we will see more than 1 Mimic Endoskeleton.
I'm glad you finally saw the stained glass, I find it very bizarre there's a blue Bonnie and Fredbear on there. I have no idea why that would be, especially if this is 1979
I think the driver in the van who took away the MXES machine was Gregory, because in one of the endings from security breach, he was driving a van with Freddy, also he knocked Roxy by driving a go-kart. So maybe he took away the MXES machine and installed it in the pizzaplex to keep the Mimic hidden and so there was a bag pack of Gregory down near the Mimic's confinement in ruin and there were tools inside the bag pack.
@@Sourayan_Roy yeah i kind of agree but we need more lore to fully come firm that Gregory is a robot your mith might be true we just need to wait and see
the zip on the back reminds me of those Build-a-Bear toys, where you could unzip them and put a little plush star inside (or just to put the stuffing inside in the first place pft) ALSO the circular window with the other circle inside, reminds me of an eye. i picture it moving around to look at people passing by like a guard house jhbdfg
One detail I noticed is that by now even with the doubt of it still not being bought out since the symbol for MCM is still on the factory and the puzzle, if you look at the stained glass window in the puzzle it is completely different than the one shown outside of it, so it 100% is already owned by Fazbear 12:10
I just watched the video and the first two things that come to mind after seeing "MCM" are "Murray's Creations and Manufactory" and "Murray's Costumes and Mascots". Also, everything in the update is pretty interesting, it's making me really excited for Secret of the Mimic!
Theory: I think Edwin was like a merch manufucturer for William and Henry. So Henry and William were running Fredbear's (and also already thinking about another restaurant, Freddy's) and Edwin was manufacturing toys and stuff for them. There’s also one thing I just can't unsee. That is the connection between Henry and Edwin. The available description (though coming from The Silver Eyes trilogy) describes Henry to have built animatronics and toys. Thats very similar to how they describe Edwin. So im guessing that Henry and Edwin could be the same person (David being a metaphore for Charlie maybe?) or they are just two similar people.
MCM could be short for Murry Custom Machines. Also fun fact even though a place or establishment can be bought out by a company a lot of the time the company will allow that place or company to keep its name especially if it has unique or different supplies or attractions in it compared to what other places or companies owned by the same parent company.
1:45 a lot of people think that the tiger rock plush that we see in the update is actually a full length suit from SOTM that’s been put into Help Wanted 2 and shrunk down to make it look like a plush.
I’m personally holding out on a theory that the games have a fusion of Henry and Edwin. I always found it a bit strange to include two characters who are “prodigies in robotics” so until secret of the mimic comes out I’m going with the theory that Murray is Henry Murray. Or something like that. Edwin being the character Henry in the games. Because we never did hear his name in game.
Tbh it doesn't really make sense, mainly because names have stayed pretty consistent throughout all timelines, it's not like William Afton in the film is named Billy Anderson or smth
@fhm-dl I suppose but we never get the name Henry or Charlotte in the games either last I checked, but we assume it's them anyways because it's consistent with the story we know. Henry retroactively also being Edwin messes with a good chunk of the plot because frankly, it implies if your an engineer and also a bad father in some way, you have to either be Henry or William, which is just not true at all.
OK but then what about the son David? Is that Sammy? How come he's just meantioned now only to be revealed to be killer off,why is his name Henry in fnaf 6 if his name is Edwin? It dose confuse things if they are the same person
@@thevioletskull8158 I agree, it's most likely that Edwin and Henry are different people, they just happen to both be engineers who are bad fathers, which is also William's traits funnily enough.
6:40 "and william comes later on" Matpat predicting it 6-7 years ago that william bought fazbear entertainment because henry couldnt get the money to continue the business.
What if Edwin is a fasard for Henry Emily, like their stories are so alike, specially in the books. So charlie, henry's daughter died probably in the midnight motorist and in the books, Henry made a robot, who once was good but then he made him kill himself, a killer endoskeleton, basicly what the mimic is, and this makes more sense cause Henry is the first ever engineer that we hear about in FNaF, the one who made Freddy fazbear's pizza
The best MCM meaning I can think of is Murray Circuitry Manufacturing. But if Murray’s name isn’t in the name it could be Mobile Circus Movies (something like that).
This is all very fascinating and makes me excited to see the playthroughs when they come out. But there were a few details I noticed, or things I wanna share my pov on. 1. The Tiger Rock plushie/costume you mentioned, I know why you may think it's a costume but I have had atleast one plush in the past that had a zipper on the backside, as it was a pocket. It was on an old Lalaloopsy doll I had, of Mittens or something, the girl with the blue pigtails in the winter environment- I don't know how common zippers are on plush's, but it is something I've seen before, then again, it could actually just be the costume render shrunk down like you said- 2. The stained glass, if you look at the spot between the Bonnie and Bear head, you can see a blue crescent moon on the left and a sun on the right, aswell as those on the cart below and a sun at the bottom of the glass. Could be a connection to the Daycare Attendants, or something that was common to see with a travelling circus back then. 3. The symbol ontop of the house that looks to be the same as the jigsaw puzzle. I could be wrong, but doesn't it look a bit like the one found in Michael's Living Room within Security Breach? I think it was in there, as it's one of the locations only Gregory can apparently get in, from what Matpat said in an old video. Could be overthinking it, but thought this could be helpful, just incase-
I bet the plushie was handmade (most likely by Edwin Murray for his son) could explain why it has so many patches and have a zipper (probably hade a battery voicebox in it).
This could be me looking way to much into this but hey that’s the fun of FNAF. I wanna say that William was around during the start. Due to one of the most famous dialogues in the series, “Don’t keep the devil waiting *old friend*” it’s not just FRIEND it’s OLD friend which should imply knowing for them for YEARS on end. Again just a fun shout ❤
I'm curious to see if anyone has noticed this as well, but the triangular symbol atop the building's flagpole/the puzzle logo with 'MCM' sure remind me of the symbols used in the SL room wall code from Security Breach. Thanks to "The Storyteller" from Tales; we know for a fact that Edwin was around the Pizzaplex very early on. He also knew how to draw these specific triangular symbols to communicate (presumably to the Mimic1 program). Perhaps we now know who wrote those symbols on the wall?
That tiger rock plush really reminds me of glitchtrap.. we might see a glitchtrap-like mascot costume in sotm and we might even see the original glitchtrap costume in sotm
Plushies having zippers at the back makes sense because you can add/remove fluff when the plush is damaged and needs repairs. It's easier to unstuff the plushie, make the repair then stuff it back through the zipper back.
Blue bunny with a blue moon and a yellow bear with a yellow Sun. You have what looks like an inverted carousel roof. And then the carnival wagon. Definitely points to carnival/travelling shows, etc.
Another interesting thing I saw people talking about on John Fuhnaffs vr stream last night is the the code used to unlock MXES (4625) could be the release date of SOTM the date being 4-6-25 which matches up with the 2025 release date
That’s what I was thinking! I find it interesting if it is the release date that this is the first time I can think of that the release date is an in game code we use, and not a past in game date. Also it would make sense the other code used is 1979 the date/setting used for SOTM.
The zipper is made for the suffing. Zippers are commonly seen on the backs of old teddy bears so when the suffing is squished or worn down, you can replace it.
5:58 I like to think Edwin was the third founder of fazbears I mean he had a successful robotics company so he likely helped William and Henry start their business
Stained glass has 2 moons and 2 suns, the suns are next to the Freddy and in the Wagon, the moons are next to Bonnie and outside the wagon, just thought that was interesting
10:57 Murray Candy Makers since the symbol is shaped like a candy wrapper? Edit: Just got this idea from a comment. Since there is a sun and a moon on the glass, could they be the ones who made the Sundrop and Moondrop candies? I know I could be very wrong but just an idea in the air.
My little theory about the mcm could be that mcm is fazbear entertainment before it got rebranded as fazbear entertainment, the common logo and name for fazbear entertainment revolves around Freddy fazbear but if he didn’t exist back then then what was fazbear entertainment know as, maybe mcm? That’s just my theory
Edwin's introduction to the story is like that TikTok with the girl doing 2+2 but saying it equals 6 because there's another 2 the government doesn't want you to know about. No guys, there was definitely always THREE animatronic engineers! It's always been William, Henry, and Edwin!
Ok i can see how the zipper is weird but that's what most of my plushies ended up having in sewing class it would just be easy to zip up after stuffing or in case you needed to add more in future
"MCM" might stand for "Murray (or however you spell Edwin's last name) Costumes and Mascots". A lot of places and businesses leave the word "and" out of their acronyms. Yes, he sold his "vacuum" company to fazbear, but what if it's more like fazbear absorbed his company in some sort of business arrangement? Like what if William, Henry, and Edwin got together and created the fazbear brand as a whole? Maybe William and Henry already had their fred bear's family diner thing going on and they had saved enough money up from it to buy Edwin's factory as a place to mass make animatronics for the freddy's restaurants. And maybe "vacuum" is a stand in for costumes and mascots since we know things in the books tend to be parallels or comparisons of what happens in the game. Hear me out: William and Henry are doing great with their business, and they noticed that the mascot costumes/plush outfits they initially used have some wear and tear on them. They either go to the person who made them originally or find someone new all together to make new ones- Edwin. The three team up working together as a unit with separate companies until Edwin dies (mysteriously, I might add.) Either Edwin left the factory to Henry and william, or, knowing William's case for lying, claims that Edwin left it to them and pushed Henry toward a bigger and brighter future: Fazbear. Henry is sentimental about Edwin though- perhaps he liked him better than afton - and makes sure there's bits and pieces of edwin's old business scattered around - like the wind catcher atop the entrance. (I'd also like to note that the logo looks very much like a bowtie). Eventually, Henry and William open a new business, a new company- Fazbear's in 1983.
You call this a dlc? This is not a dlc, it should be an update. What were steel wool studios thinking??? If you're going to make a dlc then put a monty level and a mimic level.
It's looking like the story might be gearing up to parallel the history of chuck e cheese and showbiz pizza. For those not aware, chuck e cheese used to have a rival company called showbiz pizza that had it's own animatronic band. After a while CEC ended up going bankrupt and was bought by showbiz. Showbiz didn't really want to deal with the IPs being separate so they decided to consolidate everything under the chuck e cheese name in a process that was known as "concept unification" which you can still find the old instructional tapes for online. When news of the merge reached the guy who designed the showbiz animatronics, he was pretty mad. Mad enough to cut ties with the company entirely and he ended up just being a grumpy old dude, stuck repairing the few remaining bands that kept the original branding. So fit how it might parallel the Edwin situation into your own theories as you will, my brain is tired enough from typing this out.
2:41 kinda looks like the lining of a puppet to me! despite looking kinda fleshy i can tell by the way it was textured that it's still meant to be fabric. im wondering if the zipper is so it can be both a plushie and an optional handpuppet, probably for the mimic to use while playing with david
This whole thing has me wondering if Henry in the games is actually Henry Murray. In the books, we see Henry making plenty of robotic stuff for Charlie to entertain her while he works. He could've designed the mimic for her. So maybe Charlie in the games is actually David Afton. Which would also line up with the "I didn't take Sammy, I took you" thing from the books. Edit: I wrote this immediately after waking up and I forgot the fact that Henry directly mentions his daughter in his Pizza Sim monologue. So Charlie definitely does still exist, but Dave could've been her brother/twin. Kinda like what we see in the Silver Eyes, just with Dave getting snatched instead of Charlie. Again, this is just one of the ideas floating around my head. Could be wrong, could be right, it's just my brain taking in info and spitting things out
If Edwin's name gets mentioned in the games, then that blows this idea out the window lmao. This is purely me coming up with ideas in case the Tales story isn't fully canon to the games
@@witherd5733 from what we’ve seen from FLaF and Edwin’s factory likely being in the background of the DoubleVision puzzle, it’s more than likely that Edwin is a real person that existed
Henry isn't even a good parallel to Edwin. Edwin at bare minimum slightly parallels book Henry, which is barely similar to his game counter part. Book Henry, he created Fazbear Entertainment and his daughter is kidnapped and murdered by Afton, he ends up creating 4 different animatronic replacements for his daughter and then takes his own life shortly after. Edwin works *for* Fazbear Entertainment after almost going bankrupt, he creates the Mimic to be a friend for his son. His son dies on complete accident after running into the street and getting reamed by a Van. Edwin breaks the Mimic and Fazbear Entertainment takes it away. Edwin lives all the way into his 60s and dies by his superior locking him inside the Storyteller tree. The only thing actually similar between Henry and Edwin is that they both have dead children and are animatronic inventors, which makes as similar to Henry as it makes him similar to William.
I have a feeling that Edwin made the fnaf 1 animatronics with the mascot costumes, which is why they're the only set that are soft and furry. All the other animatronics made are plastic/metal casings. Phone guy mentioning that he was happy that the fnaf gang were updated with their original looks further adds to this idea.
they better explain this very coherently, because i have been following this story very loyaly since day one, and i am starting to lose my concept of fnaf's story, and that is very upsetting to me
Right now the game confirms that the mimic origin is based on the books weather it’s slightly tweaked version of it that fits in the lore timeline or tales is canon and hopefully not frights. praying the first options right
Frights is confirmed non canon to the games. There's been no confirmation on Tales, but I personally don't think it's canon because of some pretty extreme timeline and lore errors that contradict some of the games. In my opinion it's a close parallel, but the books also had multiple description and illustration mistakes and Scott had barely any role in making them, so I wouldn't be surprised at this point if they WERE aiming to make Tales canon and were written by people who (like in some of the past books meant to tell lore) had little understanding of FNAF and made so many timeline, description and book cover mistakes. It's sad if they are canon, because the books clearly have so little effort put into them, as opposed to the interactive ones which Scott had a heavy part in making and fits better with no game contradictions.
@@alexq.5527 Frights was never confirmed to be non canon. The opposite actually: "some stories are directly connected to the games" (Stitchwraith Stingers) and "look at these books to fill up blanks from the past!" The first Tales story is about Eleanor's pendant, and the series was advertised as the sequel to Fazbear Frights Tales is confirmed canon by GGY, this Tiger, the Mimic just existing and fitting with the Tales epilogues and so on.
Well since there is a body in TigerRock, maybe if was considered for a costume but either they scrapped the idea or it never made it to an animatronic. With the factory it could show how the Mimic came about and Jackie was a prototype of sorts. Thanks Lewis ❤
That building is like the book definition of a "costume store". Kinda looks like where all the mascot costumes would be in the 'Secret of the Mimic' Demo.
so i also noticed that the puzzle doesn't have the stained glass window and also that there's a picture of a sun and moon too, so maybe it has something to do with the daycare attendants? ngl i wasn't that excited for sotm, but this has changed my mind quite a lot :)
The plush could have a zipper for those plushy’s, that have smelling scent bags and the Tiger rock plush could have that smelling bag as a poison to poison people. It also might be a voodoo doll for the real tiger rock.
"please read the book, or listen to the song"
THERE IS A CAAARRRR
"texture of rain on the window"
MurrayCo in Midnight Motorist.
"He went to THAT PLACE again"
MIMICMM ON TOP
Definitely The Book, It’s More Detailed and Exiting
What story?
AND I THINK ITS GOING TO HIT ME-AHHHHHHH
You call this a dlc? This is not a dlc, it should be an update. What were steel wool studios thinking??? If you're going to make a dlc then put a monty level and a mimic level.
In the Mimic story, Edwin turns Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy mascot costumes into animatronics while working for Fazbear, so he was involved with the production of these characters in some way. We'll probably see the old Fazbear mascot suits and maybe even unfinished/prototype animatronics in the factory.
YIPPEE
How can you see M X E S without your mask
The only problem with that for the games, is that thanks to the lore of FNAF 2..
Fazbears didn't exist until at least 1983. Before that it was only Fredbears Family Diner, owned by a completely different owner.
Seriously, check the Night 5 phone call for FNAF 2.
@@electrobob992 no, the owner talked about in fnaf 2 was Henry, fazbear's has existed since th 70's
so how old edwin
I think the zipper could also be for a voice box of some kind, like the plushies that have buttons in the hands that activate voice lines or something like that.
Legitimately, first thought regarding it. In fact, we already have another plush which had a radio put inside it "Psychic friend Fredbear".
@@OmegaXYT "he's here, he's there, he's everywhere. Who you gonna call?"
@@XxstardropzdreammxX. “Psychic friend Fredbear!!”
You call this a dlc? This is not a dlc, it should be an update. What were steel wool studios thinking??? If you're going to make a dlc then put a monty level and a mimic level.
with the neon colours of the eyes, maybe has a power box to light them up
I also noticed that the blue van looks like the van from the loading dock ending in security breach, that could support the theory of Vanessa and Gregory driving MXES to the pizzaplex to attempt to seal away the mimic for good.
And also the van from freddy and friends on tour. not an exact match either time, but surprisingly close
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One detail I'm surprised you didn't notice is that the Tiger Rock plushie is a dead ringer for Vanny's costume. The eyes, pupils, the color pallete, the toe and finger beans, the whiskers, even the spaced-out expression. It seems like the Vanny suit was inspired by both Glitchtrap and the Tiger Rock doll.
Also to add to this, the stitch work too is a lot like glitchtraps and vanny suits
@@AngelTheory-M Cassidy is long dead and was inside Golden Freddy
@@AngelTheory-M Brother what are you yapping about.
@@AngelTheory-M Cassidy is still tormenting William Afton in hell, and Cassidy has absolutely zero reason to return, because she already has William Afton in her clutches and has zero reason to care about some random robots.
@AngelTheory-M nightmarionne is just a nightmare from the crying child
And lefty?
Seriously?
You missed a huge part of the FNAF 6 lore
Cassidy is the fifth child of the 1985 mci
There is also a sun and moon in the glass too. This could confirm the daycare attendant is much older then people first thought.
EDIT: wow I did not expect so may likes and comments.
I'm pretty sure it was commonly agreed that Sun has been around since Fallfest
some sans is ness type of logic there
2 of each technically. On the top part with Freddy and Bonnie and another set down below inside the carriage's glow and the night sky.
@@traehignightIt’s been a popular theory since SB and especially Ruin, but this seems like full on confirmation
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The Sun/Moon window we can see on the building could imply that Daycare Attendant was created WAY before, he has the same teeth as the Mimic, he also seems to be a bit "wooden" in Security Breach, and his own level in Help Wanted 2 with the carousel could mean he's been involved in Fall Fest and Fazbear Entertainment just "upgraded" him for the Daycare in Pizza Plex
see i think the mimic costume is potentially sun too. everyone thinks its a lion but with how destroyed and decayed it is, yeah it could look like a lion especially w the spikey bits on suns head. i think all along it was supposed to be sun but people just ran with the idea of it being a lion. and sun/moon are in charge of the day care, if the mimic was trying to kill people surely itd be more likely to pick suns costume because if theres a lost kid theyre going to think that suns going to help reunite them with their parents rather than brutally murdering them.
The details on the tiger rock plushy looks a CRAZY amount like the details of vanny's costume. The bottoms of the feet are so similar with the shoddily stiched paw pads and overall shape, as well as the big plastic eyes with outward facing slit pupils, and the whiskers also stand out to me. Makes me wonder if whoever made Vanny's costume in-universe also made the Tiger Rock mascot costume.
Also, this connection is not as important, but the same caravan that is depicted on the stained glass window is the same caravan you can see as part of the environment when you play fazer blast with Carnie at fall fest.
I definitely think there is a connection between the tiger costume and the Vanny costume
Also how the factory clearly puts a big emphasis on the masks sign, and Vanny has a mask? Maybe I'm completely wrong lol
plushies sometimes have zippers if it either has some sort of internal mechanism, or as a storage pocket (or a voice box)
True, I remember in the late 80s a bear that you could put pj's inside, loads of reasons it could have a zip
It feels like Secret of the Mimic will give us some actual straight up answers
I haven't felt this feeling in a while
I'm worried those answers are going to make things worst but we will see
The triangles are also referenced in The Storyteller. When Edwin is trapped in the Baobab tree, one of his drawings is described as "a triangle within triangles"
Some plushies have battery packs in them and the zipper helps access them, 0:48
Also for stuffing
The thing is though that battery backs are more commonly Velcro, not a zipper
@@Dig3talPupp3t_ True, but I believe they used zippers around the time the games are set.🤔
@@KickAssSamuel That’s a fair point, you never know. Another thing to keep in mind is the history of the franchise, stuff isn’t just thrown around and details aren’t put there for fun
Just saying i had a spider-man plushie with a zipper about 8-9 years ago and i belive that in the 1970s that both where used same amount
One detail i think is interesting, is that the building says "Masks" and we have theorized Sun and Moon are some of the very first mascots, which is also interesting, because in Ruin, there are Comedy and Tragedy masks respectively, both of which look like Sun and Moon, and said Masks have a different design to the other masks in the games, possibly hinting at a different creator, said creator is probably Edwin.
The most fascinating detail is the stained glass mural. Containing Bonnie, Golden Freddy (or Fredbear), with Sun, Moon and Eclipse. The purple gems look like ties. Also just the factory itself looking like it comes straight from Fall Fest!
It could be just that since Fazbear bought out Edwin's company they still own it, so there might be some remnants left of it on the building
Also important to note is that the logo is a series of triangles within triangles, which match the symbols found around Edwin after his death in The Storyteller and the wall code in SB
My thoughts on the zipper:
The eyes on the Tigerrock plushie clearly glow, so the zipper (to me) would probably be to switch out batteries.
a lil detail not alot of people have talked about is on the stained glass art there's also a Sun and Moon? maybe we'll get like a shiny new versions of sun and moon in the game? :o
Plushies can have zippers in order to stuff them, I saw such design choice once very long ago, but the theory that it's a shrunk costume is very valid
I feel like the house thing looks like a haunted house, ya know the type you sometimes see at amusement parks and circus’ ya know- looks like a kind of crooked house. So excited to find out what it really is
My guess:
The zipper may hold something/act as a storage device. This is due to the zipper not going all the way down, stopping at the halfway point in the back.
Given the apparent hollowness of it too, it's possible. Or hell, it may be a plushie representation of the mimic; a costume with a beast inside.
You call this a dlc? This is not a dlc, it should be an update. What were steel wool studios thinking??? If you're going to make a dlc then put a monty level and a mimic level.
Sort of like a matryoshka doll then?
I think Edwin is Henry's cousin.
Starts out as a humble family business, then william comes along and makes things more corporate.
Than we be going waaaaay back to when fans thought Charlie had a cousin
I love that idea!
Chat I can't spell with my phone, but usually I can
Did anyone notice when we looked at the Bonnie and Freddy in the stained glass window, that there was also a sun and moon? Not sure if that means anything but you never know
Also there are two crystal shapes on Bonnie and Freddy respectively(most likely tying them to Afton and Henry) and a third unconnected one hanging(Most likely Edwin)
@ ooooh I didn’t notice the unconnected one! That’s a good theory!
I think it means the sun and moon animatronic may of originated from here
In a way, Sun and Moon could be symbolic to Afton and Henry once working together (light and dark, good and bad idk), and what traehignight said, the third unconnected one could be Edwin, which kinda connects back to Eclipse (like being the one linking both Sun and Moon together in order to function, so Edwin working together with Afton and Henry in building up their business).
I don’t know, take it with a grain of salt.😅
@ ooooo very very true!!
the parallels with the sun and moon representing the bear and rabbit speaks a lot for both the daycare attendant and william and henry. Eclipse could then maybe be showing us that they had to work together after being at odds to do something >.> hmm idk but im gonna go back and look at sun and moon differently with the context of them being reflections of them from now
Why does the daycare attendant have so much symbolism?
He has the duality thing going on which can represent Vanessa and Vanny. He has certain attributes that like the wire that link him to the puppet in some ways. There is light and dark motif which remind me of Golden Freddy and Shadow Freddy as well as remnant and agony. He has teeth that are a similar style to the Mimic which implies he’s older than we think. And now we have this mural which has Bonnie as moon and Freddy as sun which obviously mean William and Henry. (Also here’s wild prediction, we are going to see the eclipse from the BB world mini game in SOTM)
Or that Micheal afton, who could be interpreted as the “new moon” worked with Henry which we know kinda happens in FFPS
On the stain glass there is repeated Sun and Moon.
We saw Eclipse in this DLC alot.
Points to seeing more of them.
@@SplitSpiderthe wires were still working. Its how Moon flew around in the main game
0:48
About zip:
Some Comapnies, they put voice boxes inside the plushies, and to make it easier to change the batteries, there is a slider But it is possible that there is simply cotton inside the plushie and to make the work easier for the workers, this slider was added. I think that this is an interesting detail.
3:00 MY NAME IS DAVID 🗣
This MCM logo looks like a candy, which is fitting for a candy store. But it also reminds me of the SB wall code with triangles. The very one that Mimic and David created in the books, and which Edwin used to draw on papers in "The Storyteller". Coincidence? I think not!
Also, is that barcode leading to anything?
The photo of the building in the puzzle looks like an earlier photo took before it got sold off to Fazbear entertainment (there is no stained glass in puzzle version and 3d building lacks some of the paint that the building had in its photo) so back when that puzzle was made it was probably just Edwin making puzzles around things in his company.
Don’t know if anyone has noticed this already?
12:03 The puzzle looks to be the factory before it was redecorated with Fazbear branding, no stained glass window or colourful paint.
When you talked about that tiger rock plush looks like a mascot, I think about it and maybe in the end mimic will be in the tiger rock costume, this will be something like that final bossfight.
10:46 Murray Circus Mascots, maybe?
Murray co manafacturing?
MCM from what I’ve looked up stands for “Man Crash Monday”
I have a feeling that this is a nod to David’s death when a van ran him over. And it’s possible that William himself ran over David, on Monday!
But idk
@@Cross_Corp64 can’t tell if this is satire or not lol
@@LoveBunniDevil This isn’t satire
@@Cross_Corp64 oh….then I need to tell you that “man crush Monday” is not and has never been a fnaf reference… “man crush Monday” is a social media trend from like 10 years ago where you post a photo of the guy you’re currently crushing on, on Monday. Then you hashtag the photo “man crush Monday”.
7:54 a lot of sun and moon imagery. The window could even be an eclipse, the moon infront of the sun
MCM = 1900 in roman numerals
It is crazy to think that the lore of fnaf has gone from a chuck e cheese restaurant to a carnival. Just like the clown skin character from fnaf AR
I actually have a lot of stuffed animals when I was younger with zippers. It is an interesting detail but not one I would rely on that much.
Spring Bonnie is said to be Afton’s creation in the novels, sp he’s definitely Henry’s partner by 1979 going off the Fredbear posters in the demo. They probably met at Fallfest years earlier, hence all the references throughout the newer games despite the fact SOTM doesn’t even take place there.
I painted my nails black today because I saw you do this in one of the recent videos. Looks cool, thank you for inspiring me to try something new
i think that this game will take place during the change from fredbears to freddys, this explains why its normal blur bonnie and freddy in the window instead of the yellow rabbit and fredbear as they are trying to cover them up bc of the bite.
If this game takes place in 1979 then the bite wouldn't happen for the next 4 years.
11:25 spoiler alert: they are not gonna tie this together, that willl be the theorists job...
Things I think.
1. Seeing how Glitchtrap is now Supposedly gone I think Tiger-Rock is now gone be the new Modern Mimic Threat, I also think Tiger-Rock is gonna team up with Vanny (Now in Cassie’s Mimd).
2. I think the Van could either be the Van that killed David in the Story or Henry and/or Edwin taking the Mxes console to the fnaf 6 location.
3. I personally believe that Jackie herself isn’t the Mimic but I do think 1 of 2 things, 1: the Mimic somehow takes Jackie’s Animatronic Suit/Shell and puts it on to keep itself hidden and drive us. 2: Jackie is a part of the Mimic Branch and is being Controlled by the Programming itself.
4. I think theirs a 50/50% chance that rather than actually going back to 1979 we’re gonna play as someone in the modern era that’s gonna be Exploring and Investigating places Connected to what happened in 1979 and come across things such as VHS’s - Film Reels and Animatronics.
5. In the Tales Book it’s said that Fazbear Entertainment once had an entire line of Mimic Endoskeletons but they were all decommissioned due to Mimicking humans in ways they weren’t suppose to, it might be possible that during Secret of the Mimic we will see more than 1 Mimic Endoskeleton.
5:21 the bonnie could also be symbolizing for M.X.E.S, judging he is a major part of the story then we originally thought.
I'm glad you finally saw the stained glass, I find it very bizarre there's a blue Bonnie and Fredbear on there. I have no idea why that would be, especially if this is 1979
I think the driver in the van who took away the MXES machine was Gregory, because in one of the endings from security breach, he was driving a van with Freddy, also he knocked Roxy by driving a go-kart. So maybe he took away the MXES machine and installed it in the pizzaplex to keep the Mimic hidden and so there was a bag pack of Gregory down near the Mimic's confinement in ruin and there were tools inside the bag pack.
i agree because every one said that Gregory was a robot so your theroy might be right
@@beanplush101 yes, but still thinking of Gregory as a robot, feels kinda weird to me
@@Sourayan_Roy yeah i kind of agree but we need more lore to fully come firm that Gregory is a robot your mith might be true we just need to wait and see
the zip on the back reminds me of those Build-a-Bear toys, where you could unzip them and put a little plush star inside (or just to put the stuffing inside in the first place pft)
ALSO the circular window with the other circle inside, reminds me of an eye. i picture it moving around to look at people passing by like a guard house jhbdfg
Also the eyes look looks like vanny's eyes
@@Wowzers-t8l yes !! i also noticed this, that wall-eyed stare was so familiar
5:08 it’s blue and yellow to represent the night and day
Exactly! 💯
My name is Edwin, I made the Mimic. It was difficult.. to put- the pieces- together.
The thing about tiger rock being a mascot costume, they all had 5 fingers. Even springlock suits
One detail I noticed is that by now even with the doubt of it still not being bought out since the symbol for MCM is still on the factory and the puzzle, if you look at the stained glass window in the puzzle it is completely different than the one shown outside of it, so it 100% is already owned by Fazbear 12:10
6:56 Bold of you to assume any story and lore will be communicated coherently or clearly.
It’s very common for stuffed animals to have zippers on their backs… I can’t remember the reason why though. You’ll have to ask google.
To replace stuffing... you couldn’t think that one up?
I just watched the video and the first two things that come to mind after seeing "MCM" are "Murray's Creations and Manufactory" and "Murray's Costumes and Mascots". Also, everything in the update is pretty interesting, it's making me really excited for Secret of the Mimic!
Theory: I think Edwin was like a merch manufucturer for William and Henry.
So Henry and William were running Fredbear's (and also already thinking about another restaurant, Freddy's) and Edwin was manufacturing toys and stuff for them.
There’s also one thing I just can't unsee. That is the connection between Henry and Edwin. The available description (though coming from The Silver Eyes trilogy) describes Henry to have built animatronics and toys. Thats very similar to how they describe Edwin. So im guessing that Henry and Edwin could be the same person (David being a metaphore for Charlie maybe?) or they are just two similar people.
MCM could be short for Murry Custom Machines. Also fun fact even though a place or establishment can be bought out by a company a lot of the time the company will allow that place or company to keep its name especially if it has unique or different supplies or attractions in it compared to what other places or companies owned by the same parent company.
1:45 a lot of people think that the tiger rock plush that we see in the update is actually a full length suit from SOTM that’s been put into Help Wanted 2 and shrunk down to make it look like a plush.
I'm confused, is that not exactly what he says?
@ Yeah I typed this before he said it 😅
I’m personally holding out on a theory that the games have a fusion of Henry and Edwin. I always found it a bit strange to include two characters who are “prodigies in robotics” so until secret of the mimic comes out I’m going with the theory that Murray is Henry Murray. Or something like that. Edwin being the character Henry in the games. Because we never did hear his name in game.
Tbh it doesn't really make sense, mainly because names have stayed pretty consistent throughout all timelines, it's not like William Afton in the film is named Billy Anderson or smth
@shabillalma4907 but we've never gotten Henry's name in the game at all. In the silver eyes novels yeah, but not in game.
@fhm-dl I suppose but we never get the name Henry or Charlotte in the games either last I checked, but we assume it's them anyways because it's consistent with the story we know.
Henry retroactively also being Edwin messes with a good chunk of the plot because frankly, it implies if your an engineer and also a bad father in some way, you have to either be Henry or William, which is just not true at all.
OK but then what about the son David? Is that Sammy? How come he's just meantioned now only to be revealed to be killer off,why is his name Henry in fnaf 6 if his name is Edwin? It dose confuse things if they are the same person
@@thevioletskull8158 I agree, it's most likely that Edwin and Henry are different people, they just happen to both be engineers who are bad fathers, which is also William's traits funnily enough.
6:40 "and william comes later on" Matpat predicting it 6-7 years ago that william bought fazbear entertainment because henry couldnt get the money to continue the business.
What if Edwin is a fasard for Henry Emily, like their stories are so alike, specially in the books. So charlie, henry's daughter died probably in the midnight motorist and in the books, Henry made a robot, who once was good but then he made him kill himself, a killer endoskeleton, basicly what the mimic is, and this makes more sense cause Henry is the first ever engineer that we hear about in FNaF, the one who made Freddy fazbear's pizza
The best MCM meaning I can think of is Murray Circuitry Manufacturing. But if Murray’s name isn’t in the name it could be Mobile Circus Movies (something like that).
This is all very fascinating and makes me excited to see the playthroughs when they come out. But there were a few details I noticed, or things I wanna share my pov on.
1. The Tiger Rock plushie/costume you mentioned, I know why you may think it's a costume but I have had atleast one plush in the past that had a zipper on the backside, as it was a pocket. It was on an old Lalaloopsy doll I had, of Mittens or something, the girl with the blue pigtails in the winter environment- I don't know how common zippers are on plush's, but it is something I've seen before, then again, it could actually just be the costume render shrunk down like you said-
2. The stained glass, if you look at the spot between the Bonnie and Bear head, you can see a blue crescent moon on the left and a sun on the right, aswell as those on the cart below and a sun at the bottom of the glass. Could be a connection to the Daycare Attendants, or something that was common to see with a travelling circus back then.
3. The symbol ontop of the house that looks to be the same as the jigsaw puzzle. I could be wrong, but doesn't it look a bit like the one found in Michael's Living Room within Security Breach? I think it was in there, as it's one of the locations only Gregory can apparently get in, from what Matpat said in an old video.
Could be overthinking it, but thought this could be helpful, just incase-
I bet the plushie was handmade (most likely by Edwin Murray for his son) could explain why it has so many patches and have a zipper (probably hade a battery voicebox in it).
This could be me looking way to much into this but hey that’s the fun of FNAF.
I wanna say that William was around during the start. Due to one of the most famous dialogues in the series, “Don’t keep the devil waiting *old friend*” it’s not just FRIEND it’s OLD friend which should imply knowing for them for YEARS on end.
Again just a fun shout ❤
9:30 They’ve got a vacuum?? Like Edwin’s vacuum COMPANY?!?! ITS ALL COMING TOGETHER
I'm curious to see if anyone has noticed this as well, but the triangular symbol atop the building's flagpole/the puzzle logo with 'MCM' sure remind me of the symbols used in the SL room wall code from Security Breach.
Thanks to "The Storyteller" from Tales; we know for a fact that Edwin was around the Pizzaplex very early on. He also knew how to draw these specific triangular symbols to communicate (presumably to the Mimic1 program). Perhaps we now know who wrote those symbols on the wall?
Dawko I NEEED you to summarize the books. I can not read them on my own! We all would love more fazbear frights like videos. Those are so amazing.
That tiger rock plush really reminds me of glitchtrap.. we might see a glitchtrap-like mascot costume in sotm and we might even see the original glitchtrap costume in sotm
Love your humility. It makes your work even more impressive.
Plushies having zippers at the back makes sense because you can add/remove fluff when the plush is damaged and needs repairs. It's easier to unstuff the plushie, make the repair then stuff it back through the zipper back.
Blue bunny with a blue moon and a yellow bear with a yellow Sun. You have what looks like an inverted carousel roof. And then the carnival wagon. Definitely points to carnival/travelling shows, etc.
Another interesting thing I saw people talking about on John Fuhnaffs vr stream last night is the the code used to unlock MXES (4625) could be the release date of SOTM the date being 4-6-25 which matches up with the 2025 release date
That’s what I was thinking! I find it interesting if it is the release date that this is the first time I can think of that the release date is an in game code we use, and not a past in game date. Also it would make sense the other code used is 1979 the date/setting used for SOTM.
The zipper is made for the suffing.
Zippers are commonly seen on the backs of old teddy bears so when the suffing is squished or worn down, you can replace it.
Just imagine Steel Wool when they released this with that animation they went: "Who forget to delete the rain animation and window fog??!"
The factory is old and RAIN....I really think we'll have a massive problems with animatronics and stuff...
5:58 I like to think Edwin was the third founder of fazbears I mean he had a successful robotics company so he likely helped William and Henry start their business
you know how the mimic at first has no legs maybe the mimic is in jakie and later it ruin he builds himself new legs that is why jakie has no legs
Hope we see an actual glitchtrap costume in secret of the mimic to show how the mimic1 program gained that form.
Stained glass has 2 moons and 2 suns, the suns are next to the Freddy and in the Wagon, the moons are next to Bonnie and outside the wagon, just thought that was interesting
10:57 Murray Candy Makers since the symbol is shaped like a candy wrapper?
Edit: Just got this idea from a comment. Since there is a sun and a moon on the glass, could they be the ones who made the Sundrop and Moondrop candies? I know I could be very wrong but just an idea in the air.
But they make robots
My little theory about the mcm could be that mcm is fazbear entertainment before it got rebranded as fazbear entertainment, the common logo and name for fazbear entertainment revolves around Freddy fazbear but if he didn’t exist back then then what was fazbear entertainment know as, maybe mcm? That’s just my theory
Edwin's introduction to the story is like that TikTok with the girl doing 2+2 but saying it equals 6 because there's another 2 the government doesn't want you to know about.
No guys, there was definitely always THREE animatronic engineers! It's always been William, Henry, and Edwin!
Ok i can see how the zipper is weird but that's what most of my plushies ended up having in sewing class it would just be easy to zip up after stuffing or in case you needed to add more in future
However in fnaf yes a mascot suit makes sense
2:50 I hope that the top and not the bottom of Tiger Rock
I also noticed that there's like a lot of connections between Edwin and William. The secret definitely has something to do with Fredbears.
When Dawko mentions the vacum factory my mind went to Mr. Hugs
"MCM" might stand for "Murray (or however you spell Edwin's last name) Costumes and Mascots". A lot of places and businesses leave the word "and" out of their acronyms. Yes, he sold his "vacuum" company to fazbear, but what if it's more like fazbear absorbed his company in some sort of business arrangement? Like what if William, Henry, and Edwin got together and created the fazbear brand as a whole? Maybe William and Henry already had their fred bear's family diner thing going on and they had saved enough money up from it to buy Edwin's factory as a place to mass make animatronics for the freddy's restaurants. And maybe "vacuum" is a stand in for costumes and mascots since we know things in the books tend to be parallels or comparisons of what happens in the game. Hear me out: William and Henry are doing great with their business, and they noticed that the mascot costumes/plush outfits they initially used have some wear and tear on them. They either go to the person who made them originally or find someone new all together to make new ones- Edwin. The three team up working together as a unit with separate companies until Edwin dies (mysteriously, I might add.) Either Edwin left the factory to Henry and william, or, knowing William's case for lying, claims that Edwin left it to them and pushed Henry toward a bigger and brighter future: Fazbear. Henry is sentimental about Edwin though- perhaps he liked him better than afton - and makes sure there's bits and pieces of edwin's old business scattered around - like the wind catcher atop the entrance. (I'd also like to note that the logo looks very much like a bowtie). Eventually, Henry and William open a new business, a new company- Fazbear's in 1983.
You call this a dlc? This is not a dlc, it should be an update. What were steel wool studios thinking??? If you're going to make a dlc then put a monty level and a mimic level.
10:39 wait a second... my last name is murray......... i need to create the mimic to fulfill the prophecy
2:31, i think like also with the fredbear plush from fnaf 4, that there is gonna by a walkie talkie inside of the plushie.
I think that MCM - Murray Corporation Mascots
I just can't wait for Secret of the Mimic ! This game got me so hyped
2:40 :d, whoever made that plushie is very lonely.
Whatchu mean by that???
A zipper on any plush immediately makes me think voice box. Could be something there
It's looking like the story might be gearing up to parallel the history of chuck e cheese and showbiz pizza.
For those not aware, chuck e cheese used to have a rival company called showbiz pizza that had it's own animatronic band. After a while CEC ended up going bankrupt and was bought by showbiz. Showbiz didn't really want to deal with the IPs being separate so they decided to consolidate everything under the chuck e cheese name in a process that was known as "concept unification" which you can still find the old instructional tapes for online. When news of the merge reached the guy who designed the showbiz animatronics, he was pretty mad. Mad enough to cut ties with the company entirely and he ended up just being a grumpy old dude, stuck repairing the few remaining bands that kept the original branding.
So fit how it might parallel the Edwin situation into your own theories as you will, my brain is tired enough from typing this out.
I've had a lot of plushies as a kid that had zippers on the back, your mattress probably has one that accesses the inner fluff too
2:41 kinda looks like the lining of a puppet to me! despite looking kinda fleshy i can tell by the way it was textured that it's still meant to be fabric. im wondering if the zipper is so it can be both a plushie and an optional handpuppet, probably for the mimic to use while playing with david
This whole thing has me wondering if Henry in the games is actually Henry Murray. In the books, we see Henry making plenty of robotic stuff for Charlie to entertain her while he works. He could've designed the mimic for her. So maybe Charlie in the games is actually David Afton. Which would also line up with the "I didn't take Sammy, I took you" thing from the books.
Edit: I wrote this immediately after waking up and I forgot the fact that Henry directly mentions his daughter in his Pizza Sim monologue. So Charlie definitely does still exist, but Dave could've been her brother/twin. Kinda like what we see in the Silver Eyes, just with Dave getting snatched instead of Charlie. Again, this is just one of the ideas floating around my head. Could be wrong, could be right, it's just my brain taking in info and spitting things out
If Edwin's name gets mentioned in the games, then that blows this idea out the window lmao. This is purely me coming up with ideas in case the Tales story isn't fully canon to the games
@@witherd5733 from what we’ve seen from FLaF and Edwin’s factory likely being in the background of the DoubleVision puzzle, it’s more than likely that Edwin is a real person that existed
Henry isn't even a good parallel to Edwin. Edwin at bare minimum slightly parallels book Henry, which is barely similar to his game counter part.
Book Henry, he created Fazbear Entertainment and his daughter is kidnapped and murdered by Afton, he ends up creating 4 different animatronic replacements for his daughter and then takes his own life shortly after.
Edwin works *for* Fazbear Entertainment after almost going bankrupt, he creates the Mimic to be a friend for his son. His son dies on complete accident after running into the street and getting reamed by a Van. Edwin breaks the Mimic and Fazbear Entertainment takes it away. Edwin lives all the way into his 60s and dies by his superior locking him inside the Storyteller tree.
The only thing actually similar between Henry and Edwin is that they both have dead children and are animatronic inventors, which makes as similar to Henry as it makes him similar to William.
I have a feeling that Edwin made the fnaf 1 animatronics with the mascot costumes, which is why they're the only set that are soft and furry. All the other animatronics made are plastic/metal casings.
Phone guy mentioning that he was happy that the fnaf gang were updated with their original looks further adds to this idea.
they better explain this very coherently, because i have been following this story very loyaly since day one, and i am starting to lose my concept of fnaf's story, and that is very upsetting to me
Right now the game confirms that the mimic origin is based on the books weather it’s slightly tweaked version of it that fits in the lore timeline or tales is canon and hopefully not frights. praying the first options right
Frights is confirmed non canon to the games. There's been no confirmation on Tales, but I personally don't think it's canon because of some pretty extreme timeline and lore errors that contradict some of the games. In my opinion it's a close parallel, but the books also had multiple description and illustration mistakes and Scott had barely any role in making them, so I wouldn't be surprised at this point if they WERE aiming to make Tales canon and were written by people who (like in some of the past books meant to tell lore) had little understanding of FNAF and made so many timeline, description and book cover mistakes.
It's sad if they are canon, because the books clearly have so little effort put into them, as opposed to the interactive ones which Scott had a heavy part in making and fits better with no game contradictions.
@Frights isn’t absolutely confirmed non-canon because of stitchline
@@alexq.5527 Frights was never confirmed to be non canon. The opposite actually: "some stories are directly connected to the games" (Stitchwraith Stingers) and "look at these books to fill up blanks from the past!"
The first Tales story is about Eleanor's pendant, and the series was advertised as the sequel to Fazbear Frights
Tales is confirmed canon by GGY, this Tiger, the Mimic just existing and fitting with the Tales epilogues and so on.
Well since there is a body in TigerRock, maybe if was considered for a costume but either they scrapped the idea or it never made it to an animatronic. With the factory it could show how the Mimic came about and Jackie was a prototype of sorts. Thanks Lewis ❤
That building is like the book definition of a "costume store". Kinda looks like where all the mascot costumes would be in the 'Secret of the Mimic' Demo.
so i also noticed that the puzzle doesn't have the stained glass window and also that there's a picture of a sun and moon too, so maybe it has something to do with the daycare attendants?
ngl i wasn't that excited for sotm, but this has changed my mind quite a lot :)
The plush could have a zipper for those plushy’s, that have smelling scent bags and the Tiger rock plush could have that smelling bag as a poison to poison people. It also might be a voodoo doll for the real tiger rock.