The REASON Why PREMIUM is SO EXPENSIVE in ALBION ONLINE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2023
- UPDATE: With today's flash gold sale we confirmed that when players exchange their gold to the market for silver, the price of gold decreases along with the price of premium and vice versa. The most recent spike in gold prices which made premium worth 35M for brief period of time was caused by what SBI is calling an "anomaly" which prompted the flash gold sale.
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In this video, BMU breaks down why he thinks the PREMIUM price has gone up in the past couple of weeks and what we can possibly do to reverse the prices. Hopefully SBI figures out how to solve this because it is getting ridiculous out there for new players.
Disclaimer: These are just our opinions based on our personal knowledge. Please feel free to discuss in the comments why you think the premium has gone up to a staggering 21.6M SILVER per month. Be civilized or your comment will be deleted.
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Inverse almost everything this guy said and you've hit the nail on the head
You beat me to it
idk what that man is cooking, he just gaslighting people to hate the rich. literally only swiper/p2w can dump the gold market, if they swipe hard enough.
lol literally. I was laughing so hard.
Yea this guy is an idot or a shill for the company lol
This should be work in the opposite way. A swiper buys gold from the SBI, then sells that gold for silver in game. This is the only way how fresh gold is introduced into the economy. (Except the one piece you got in the tutorial.) Gold can leave the game via Premium fee and skin buying. When you buy Premium directly with irl money, there is no gold involved. If lots of gold are sold by the swipers the gold price should drop. Rising gold price means people buy more gold with in game silver, and there are not enough swipes to balance it out. It means the silver lose its value to the gold. Hence you have to pay more silver for one gold, as we see.
Untold riches on account of a few are practically silver removed from the economy, a silver sink. That should make the silver more valuable.
I think that a lot of gold were brought in by player now on the East server. The remaining, established player of the West server have relatively enough silvers to pay for Premium and the gears. ( I do not have the data, ofc) Release of Diablo 4 do not help either, I guess.
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You’re correct, the guy talking is wrong. The game is just giving more silver in new content.
this is the correct explanation. i don't know why the guy talking say that it's due to swipers. lol swipers will actually make the silver price of premium down.
Exactly...the premium prices began rising exponentialy after the lands awakened update with the increased silver drops
hmm, yeah i thought this too. there isn't some confusing economy principle i don't understand at play, is there? i assume the person talking is just wrong.
It's the opposite, not enough people are swiping
A premium is worth 3000 gold , but since sooooo many people are buying it with silver . The price of gold on silver it very high
If more people swiped, more gold available , gold becomes less expansive and so does premium
It's actually opposite to what he's saying. There's too much silver chasing less and less gold as time goes on causing inflation
you got it backwards man. if we buy gold with silver then the demand for gold would increase meaning the price of gold would go up. and when you swipe, buying gold with cash means you buying gold directly and wouldn't affect the price until you sell the gold for silver. when you provide the market with more gold to sell then the price of gold would drop. you can see it clearly on the last gold discount event that the price of gold dropped by quite a lot (I refer to the east server) and in effect making premium price cheaper.
so in conclusion card swiper isn't the problem here, but the bot and swarm of alt accounts is. lots of them would need to buy premium to make them worth it. if you buy premium with silver, it means you buying gold with that silver to be in turn be used to buy the premium.
theres def more people that dont pay for gold that there are people that do and dont get me started on rmt
If what this guy is saying is true. This has all been directly caused by SBI. Nerfing loot in pretty much all content across the board.
"Increasing silver sinks in the game" which was their justification when they doubled the market tax from what it used to be.
Introducing 8.4. which is 4-5 times more expensive than 8.3 for people to buy.
And let's not forget that they jumped premium gold cost up by what was it? 750 gold?
Looks like their plan worked. They're making more money, and premium is becoming less viable for the fiscally less fortunate players.
Increasing silver sinks should, all other things equal, reduce the silver cost of premium. As an extreme example, if everyone has 1 million silver, they may be willing to pay 200k for premium. If silver sinks are stronger and everyone has 10,000 silver, people may be willing to pay 2000 for something. Inflation of silver prices means more silver is entering the game than is being drained out, on average. In a similar fashion, if loot is nerfed across the board then prices would fall as the average player would be less rich.
The only thing in that list that increased premium price is the 750 gold increase from December. You don't list the global discount here, but that's also an SBI tool meant to push the exchange rate to 5000 silver per gold - anything over that is just supply and demand at work. Until our population of credit card warriors increases or the drain of gold for premium decreases, the price will continue to rise.
what he says is not accurate
I think this is incorrect.
From my observation, the freebies are the ones f**king the price up.
Each person creates 10 characters to make millions each day without effort with Focus Crafting/Refining, yet there is no silversink in the game.
If each person buys 10 Premiums then obviously it's gonna get expensive now, isn't it?
Learning/Focus Points should not be passive, or at least Focus Points.
They should be rewarded through the daily challenge.
On top of that, they should annihilate the bot plague by introducing in-game CAPTCHA every 3 hours or so.
I played an MMO a decade ago called World of Kung Fu which had this mechanic for the same exact reason.
Freebies and bots are the ones f**king up the economy and Premium prices.
I might be wrong. You guys are welcome to help me understand this.
So the growing number of players with 10-300+ alts buying premium with silver is not having an effect on the costs?
the solution is actually very simple, remove all restrictions on buying and selling gold for all players
this would break the economy. I know several "old players" sitting at several million gold each. Imagine they could acces that. 1mio gold => 6b Silver
that would be the biggeest aniti silver sink
The game the speaker is mentioning around 14:40 was in fact Ultima Online. There's a short (7.5 min) video where Richard Garriott explains this balanced ecology system the UO developers tried to create for the first/alpha launch of the game...and how UO players desire to murder absolutely everything that moved made the system untenable.
I watched the video and it was both hilarious and sad. The devs had a great idea but failed to consider the murderous nature of players in game. 😅
20:00 if you can pay for your gear with real money (convert gold to silver and purchase tomes+gear), does not it make albion pure p2w?
You can always pay for gears but you still need to learn how to create the build and how to use the skills of the build
ah, of course, the monumental first words of all great plans "we need to find an e-girl"
It is also important to remember that SBI can do whatever they like to the gold market, making it nearly useless to analyze it.
But, assuming that they didn't touch the gold market and the market running close to efficient, the best explanation for the gold inflation is surge of new player coming to Albion which will increase the demand for gold. Without enough supply of gold, the price of gold will always rise. And the only way to increase the supply of gold is to buy gold from SBI with real money.
Simply put, when there are not enough people swiping to balance the surge of new player, the price of gold will only ever go up. Because demand will outgrow the supply
I don't know where the guy on the video learned his economics. But he didn't gave any solid argument.
It was like 17m+ a week ago... Holy shit!
problem with black market is that for lot of thing it is not worth it to sell it there
Every non artifact and rune item is 100% guaranteed profit
When I am active I live out of red zone. 9 times out of 10 selling on the black market is better than the regular market man. Idfk where you got that idea.
I agree with the 2 comments, most of the non-artifact items are worth selling to the black market. A lot of non-meta artifact items are worth selling there too. There's really only a handful of items you don't want to see to the BM because of the price.
chest chance? what he means? around 2:40
this guy makes 0 sense.
gold prices go up because people are buying gold with silver, or buying premium with silver
if people swipe, gold prices go down
it's simple supply and demand
I don't know why he has it completely backwards
how would buying 140000 gold increase the price of gold/silver? The only thing you can do with the gold is sell for silver, which lowers the price.
Not only this, but if everyone fed the black market and loot drops were increased, it would increase the gold price as there is more LIQUID SILVER SUPPLY in the game, as such people have MORE MONEY to spend on buying premium
SWIPING for premium, SWIPING for gold, HOARDING SILVER, are the ONLY THINGS that lower gold prices
every single F2P player who joins the game and never spends a cent, INCREASES THE PRICE OF GOLD
every player buying premium with silver INCREASES THE PRICE OF GOLD
So this pints out a fundamental assumption that seems (to me) to be poorly documented by Albion online (onlinw). And it is a very reasonable assumption (and how I have always thought it worked) that buying premium with real world currency would be a deflationary activity. That basically, when you purchase premium for RWC, the game “creates” new gold then purchases premium with the gold behind the scenes. Thereby adding gold into the system and reducing the overall value of gold.
But I’m not sure that is really how it works.
Some people seem to believe that when a player purchases premium, SBI essentially buys gold on the market (using their current RWC to gold purchasing values, say), then purchases premium with it. This would mean that swiping for premium was an inflationary activity as it would raise demand for gold . That seems a bit silly, but does seem to explain the current inflationary wave.
The big question I have is how does purchasing premium for RWC impact the gold market? Is it adding gold, removing gold, or something else?
@@wayneogle1792It is also important to remember that SBI can do whatever they like to the gold market, making it nearly useless to analyze it.
But, assuming that they didn't touch the gold market and the market running close to efficient, the best explanation for the gold inflation is surge of new player coming to Albion which will increase the demand for gold. Without enough supply of gold, the price of gold will always rise. And the only way to increase the supply of gold is to buy gold from SBI with real money.
When there are not enough people swiping to balance the surge of new player, the price of gold will only ever go up.
I don't know where the guy on the video learned his economics. But he didn't gave any solid argument.
15:17 did he find that video that he was talking about ?
This is exacly the opposite, if you dont spend silver and you acctually holding silver this should increase the purshese power of silver not the otherwise
what if they rise the price of gold ?
Brilliant idea #1 /// SBI scares the player base by making them think that the game is going to be offline.
Or there's just massive raw silver inflation and demand for premium for focus alts
Non sense, black market is not being fed, but is not buying that much as it should buy anyways.
Also if you buy that much gold then gold price should drop because of high offer, but it increases instead (?.
And seems like swiping is only increasing premium prices but not in game items. Is it a kind of a selective inflation or what.
I'm confused why did the premium on east just shoot up too since the economy on east and west are different, if its just swiping on west, it's only gonna go up on west right?
They swiping in east
it's because the guy is wrong. silver inflation is the cause and demand of prem via silver is high. RMT people on the east leads to less swipers then leads to less gold, making it more expensive. And the mania of increasing gold price make other people to buy gold more in hopes that it'll go up further.
I am so Lucky I Got my Premium early and not now
Hyper Farmed everything in this game from achieving
Maxed Out Fishing And Fishing Specs
Tier 6 in all Gathering Tools / Gear
One PvE set Tier 8 and
Both Island Almost Maxed
My Spec in Farming is Useless Now but at least Labourers can Pick up the Slack
Ah yes my favourite game Albion Onlinw
Would there be a reason other than cooking to go to Caerleon if there was another black market?
None. Most solo and duo PvP players (except mist) run their content from Caerleon because of the proximity to the red zones but also because they can sell loot faster and for more silver in the Black Market and Caerleon Market.
@@BernStoneTVGaming
now i understand, thanks
@swolebenji 31:45 u have been summoned
Its very easy, higher price = more money to Albion online devs (company) and thats only reson why is price so high. And in 99% online games premium 1 year is aprox 100$ (100€)
Well already bought an hce xbow set with all my money.. atleast I'm making good silver now fk premuim
The last part of the vid really make my daily laugh meter to full XD
LOL. Same. BMU just had to include him in the conversation, it's important. 😂
@@BernStoneTVGaming agreed lol. But it was a good idea to ask him make a video making profit from Bm, cus most new and innocent player must have watching his vid before playing the game and he's kinda famous in east server about his silver and fame making but nothing worked LOL 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
The last line legit made me laugh. He famous for his silver method but nothing worked. 😂😂
He can definitely create a clickbait video about it. I don't know how effective it's going to be though.
@@BernStoneTVGaming Lol that true tbh i've seen people on different bank in royal cities talk about his fail methodXD idk his method legit or not cus i never tried 1 of them lol and from my pov his vid just he showing off his acc and his spec lol and lastly the most funny thing is when he showing off that he gone to blackzone with high end gear but it was in test server XD idk which vid but it was when he explain demolition hammer XD
He is definitely the ultimate troll. I legit feel sorry for his loyal followers who are getting misled by his "guides". He loves the attention though so it's still a win for him.
I'm playing for 9 days albion online it's very rough after the 3day premium the silver very low, solo dungeon loot sucks now I'm thinking to quit because I hate pay to win MMORPG i thought Albion not need to spend so much money like In my country philippines have low minimum wage I can't afford to buy a premium worth ₱6500 pero and the minimum wage in my region it's php573 a day that very impossible to me to continue to play not progressing much I might quit if this never change btw i'm searching in Yt how to fast farm silver in game but i'll always see the a year ago vids speed run 1m but if I try it now it doesn't work I'm very frustrated now I know what is happening now I might quit now
Join a guild pre. Hindi masyado kailangan ng premium agad agad para maenjoy yung game. Eventually makakahanap ka din ng money making para easy nalang ang premium
@@BernStoneTVGaming that's one of the other problem hahahah wala gustong mag sali ng newbee sa guild nila almost every day nag hahanap ako ng guild alaws parin guild until now hahahaha RIP EAST ASIA SERVER HAHAHA
PLEAAAAAASE SBI SHOULD ADD A BLACK MARKET TO BRESEL
Because bying premium for silver you try to exchange game money to real money... That's why
So how the more expensive premium is (in silver) the more ppl buy it with $$$. And the more we buy it with real money the more expensive it gets...
Shouldn't SBI build some good silver sinks? Raise taxes or something
Yeah but the black market won't set good prices so no one is gonna sell nothing's
I would add to this that part of the problem, in my opinion, why it is harder for new players, why for example the gathering is less profitable are bots.. BOTS, BOTS, BOTS. They are EVERYWHERE!!! in blue or yellow zones. I encounter them every few minutes, report them or kill them but they are still there. SBI seems to doesn't give a s*it about it.
In my opinion bots ruin low tier materials economy. They make gathring it far less profitable, so many new players won't be willing to to this. Imagine, bots gathering for 24/7 not only make prices in the market drop, but they clean most of the nodes on maps, so it also makes gathering not very efficient for real players.
I agree bots are really a huge problem. I believe SBI has done some efforts to combat this but they are still everywhere on the east server.
The issue is their banning the bots but at the end of the day it's a free game can just have multiple characters super easy
That's true as well. We shall see how SBI fixes this issue.
@@BernStoneTVGaming pretty sure I saw a CM say they had something their working on to deal with it so will def see how it goes
@@gavhd2611 just IP ban the bot users. Maybe the 3rd time they got reported for using bots, they will get their IP perma banned.
just place black market in brecillian
Gold in albion is the new bitcoin
I think blaming the swipers is just an excuse. Because there'll be not many swipers if the SBI didn't raise the price of premium. In my position, I bought a premium with real money cause I couldn't get enough silver to pay premium.
Vou desfrutar bem da minha última Premium haha não comprarei mais
No, this is backwards logic.. if it's supply and demand then introducing more gold into the market (through people paying for gold) will increase the supply and hence decrease the price..
The real reason that the price of gold is increasing is because people are waking up and realizing that they can pay 20m silver for 1 month premium and use the FOCUS points to make themselves well over 50m.. oh, and then create two more characters and you're paying 60m silver to "earn" 150m silver each month through 2 minutes of crafting.
Focus points are the ultimate end game currency, and people are buying/selling them for 100 silver each. If you get 10,000 points a day, then that's 30m a month. Once everyone realizes this, they wont have to pay for premium ever again. So now more people are doing it, and the price goes up
theres def more people that dont pay for gold that there are people that do and dont get me started on rmt
Sbi gets money mostly from skins
I like that perfect british accent))
this is stupid. it literally jumped up from 17.8 mil to 21+ in a month, when there's no discernable reason for gold to jump that much. this is just copium. Sbi wants it high so more people feel forced to pay. It doesnt take a 30 minute video to figure that out.
If they could get everyone to pay for premium using silver (and thus gold), they would, as they make more money per subscription that way. You don't get premium for free with silver, you just get another player to pay for it.
This is just supply and demand - we don't have the credit card warrior (gold supply) population to balance out our free to play population (gold demand), so premium will get comparatively harder and harder to purchase until enough F2P players quit or start purchasing premium directly, at which point the price would stabilize.
@@ARCrusader sounds like bullshit to me. I have no qualms with sbi if I am not the target audience and they only want paying players, but I have issues with people suggesting it's not just sbi hiking the prices manually.
it's borderline retarded
East server 13m to 16m only 1 month
@@paihoojok1536 looks like sbi is cashing in and trying to go the wow model. xD
Inverse everything he says and then it will be 100% correct.
increase loot drop in solo dungeons
Not happening brotha they hate solo players
Solo dungeons is not worth
The only way I can imagine to achievieng premium fast is just spamming t8 group dungeons in safe hideout ava road
You mean blue chests on Avalon? How much per hour if you dont get ganked?
He means group map dungeons, IS actually very effective and my opinión, if u have an ho in a safe ava road, spam t8 (or equivalent) group dungeons with 3 more plp all day long u can make premium even in a day.
I do it and make weekly around 30 to 50mill or even more if i'm lucky enough.
@@Ukanione Yea, thats what I meant, there is a lost of guilds that do it and they are quite easy to find
Ty for sharing as a solo player im only doing statics rn. I think i need try to find a group then
And albiononline devs find how to earn more money. And if you dont have premium you cant play like other players who have premium.
İ think you guys have a problemat minute 10mark
İf every player were to sell every item they have even guys who have 1b sitting in their chests, nothing would have changed because black market simply dont have that much demand like if black market buys 20t8 good quality torches a day, even jf you feed 20000 torches instantly they will just stand there like nothing
Problem is black market nuy buying enough irems
You telling me solo dungeon chests in yellow zone that gives 3k silver almost all of them rune and silver bags with no item accaptable why not just put 1 item there maybe 5.
1? İ dont even run solo dungeons nor i do them in yellow zone but new players do, why you gotta do new players like this. Before the patch you would make decent profit in black zone dungeons too but not even that got nerfed. And i am using solo dg chests as example even group dg chests like dogshit now in lethal zones, Like i see so many chests without items its not even player problem its sbis problem that they have literally fucked black market and its not about feeding it its about how much of the feed items it buys and in which chests it puts those items. Im not even talking about excellent and mastpiece items black market doesnt even touches them. Btw swolebenji rant was funny 🤣
Slight error in title, it says onlinw
Bro, thank you! I didn't realize it. I saw 2 comments saying "Albion Onlinw" and I thought both of them had the same typo.😂😂
I'll push that "Black market" challange on Mog. let's try
He is right about the swipers, but they are not the main reason.
If they buy Premium without the silver-gold conversion, they are not injecting money into the game, only in SBI's Wallet.
Also, we had a boom on new players and all I heard was: "Nah, buy your first premium with money, then you can keep it forever after the first premium" (which is true).
We have too many content giving too many rewards (even if they are just 20k, 50k per chest, imagine how many people actually do it and how many chests are opened at same time), and most contents are not even risky at all.
I really want to see what SBI will do, I hope they don't just reduce the Premium to 3k Gold again and call it a day. The problem is way bigger.
The problem is people are beginning to realize they can spend 20m silver for a month premium and use their focus points to make 50m with 2 minutes of crafting.
This is totally backwards actually. The more people swipe the less silver per gold is. If more people buy gold then the amount of silver it’s worth is less. He’s completely wrong. If the market is flooded with gold then the silver per gold drops. The amount of silver being dropped from new content is higher, that’s the answer.
Right, if more people sell gold for silver, gold price drops. Too much silver/rune/artefact drop
It's actually people realizing they can spend 20m silver for premium and use the focus points to get 50m silver for 2 minutes of crafting.
Honestly I wouldn’t like doing this idea I just had
But…
Make all PvP lethal …
Mist PvP lethal
Arena is Lethal
Corrupted Dungeons is Lethal
Everything that Involves going into PvP lethal Even in Yellow Zones
Other then Open World and Roaming in The Mists unless your in a PvP Circle ⭕️ in Both
Idk about Faction Lethal but Maybe that Too
Also What if everything I just Suggested becomes true
Should the stolen gear be sent to the player that killed them or… you get 75% of the value of items that player lost in Pure Silver
And Those Items Get Sent to the Black Market
Whatever route SBI takes, it's going to be interesting how it will affect the current prices. It's too high for new players right now.
Ign Haroon
game is dying for f2p . time to switch to a better game
About Black Market not being fed, i'm sorry, but if all red zone maps are filled with gankers using bots to know when you are transporting, i'm not gonna transport just to feed all those gankers.
Just got to the SwoleBenji part, it was funny, it could have worked if it wasn't because i think he uploaded a video transporting things to caerleon and got killed 2 or 3 times before he could get his 50k worth of t2 blocks to caerleon LMAO
onlinw
This game taught me economy more than the school does lol 🤣
He's 100% wrong
@@DoublebacknvAlbion Is it? Im newbie tho, so still trying to grasp of the overall economy concept in albion
Shouldn't it be opposite of what he is saying? I think its mostly people buying silver with $ instead from gold.
Cause the more people buy gold and sell it shouldn't its price drop?
right now premium is 21.5m but soon it will be 30m+ and even most veterans can't afford that anymore and i know you can by it with real life money but 80%+ of albion population is from 3rd world countries with average income of maybe 3$ per day so sbi is going to lose all of them and game will eventually die
That's a good theory, not gonna lie.
The end game crafters are spending 20m silver on premium to make over 50m silver through 2 minutes of crafting using focus. Now more people are doing this..
The gold price will continue to increase until the return from using focus points isn't worth as much as the price of premium.
So the problem for normal players is, majority of players are rich in real life 💀
The devs are killing the game
Increase the mammoth drop rate 😂