He said hes "done promoting the dumb shit, then said he'll put a hole in your sun holding sunchips" and his entire 4 lines before that were total nonsense also. Lyrical spiritual individual...none of that crap is fooling anyone this is trash
@@DJSkiddMarks as soon as he said Sun Chips we knew exactly what was going on. This is God MC skill level at it's finest my nigga. I don't know what you on about. Even those 4 lines were prolly over your head
@@DJSkiddMarks you talk like you know what you are talking about. the whole beef is about who is the best rapper so flexing lyrically is what he is doing here.
This man said "pain ain't even frequent just evil teasing the body it ain't even inside me it's just weakness leaving the body" my goodness. This is wild. Royce proving he's def one of the best.
Yo this song is hypnotic!! This flow is like being in a trance, he just goes in on it. Smooth af. Royce is on another level that only other wish to be at. I've listened to this track many times and it's a gem.
@@JoeLancaster It depends how you look at it. This was a beef, so the more personal disses win. Royce made it personal without intending to and Lupe went in full force. I think Lupe had the better diss but Royce definitely had the rhyme schemes and written lyrics, not to discredit lupe's writing because he pulled up some good bars too, they just weren't as frequent as Royce's.
@@Tigers9596 it wasn’t a beef at first lupe took the first shot you can tell Royce wanted slaughterhouse type comp not diss tracks and fake beef think about it that’s why he put this shit together to show the levels Mickey n Lupe turned it into some shit that it wasn’t I’m a fan of all 3 but they handled this in the most immature way possible
I believe this best describes it. Mickey went straight for the jugular, and Lupe was trying to hurt him. It seems like Royce's goal here was just to flex his lyrical dexterity. And in my personal opinion, his track has the most reply value of the 3.
Because the entire argument was about lyricism not straight dissing. I was there watching the live. Lupe's original response to Royce was more lyrical, then when he heard Silence of the Lambda he deleted it and made more personal response. Sure, it's entertaining but it's not what their original disagreement was about.
@isyoustupid? what was I supposed to get? They said the absence of masculinity is toxic, is an absence of masculinity femininity? If so, what makes them toxic?
@@tinchairs6384 The absence of masculinity isn't femininity How weird to define feminine characteristics as just a lack of masculine characteristics, with no substance or aspects of it's own
Listening to this while going for a walk, having the sun shine down upon me with tremendous delight, got me over edge of breaking down in tears and smiling simultaniously. My heart poured out pure joy and released its tension. Much love xo
Royce has flawless rhyme schemes, like it never feels like he's just forcing multis when rhyming... btw a suggestion for another song: Rhyme Asylum - "Stark Raving Genius", you don't have to do the whole song but Plazma's verse has some of the best multis I've heard
@@juanclaudio1103I recently stumbled to some old Afu-Ra songs (and kinda liked it), but I didn't know about his current situation with hip-hop or how fans of the genre look at him
This is music! A beautiful beat with a mixture of bars and an effortless flow. You can ride down the street on a sunny with a girl or load an AR to this.💯
That’s because there is nothing to actually decipher because Royce doesn’t actually say anything large and cohesive. As Jay said in the past about artists like Royce who confuse people intentionally to sound smarter “And y'all buy the shit, caught up in the hype 'Cause the nigga wear a kufi, it don't mean that he bright 'Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write” - Jay Z
When you realize that Royce has been holding back all these years so as to no be over people's heads, and he still manages to put segments together I can't imagine imagining.
It wasn't a battle it was a competition. The live was about who the better lyricist is. I don't know how Lupe devolved into making his diss so personal. The entire argument between Lupe and Royce was about lyricism. Royce wasn't trying to diss here. He was proving a point.
@Lagacy2 not even true for the people who don't know. They went from competition to battle real quick because Royce wouldn't rap in the first place. If it wasn't battle rap then why were they talking about going on Smack? Exactly. There's obviously more than you know. Lupes is short and to the point but sums up everything in totality. Royce is dope but his overly verbose ramblings represent him well.
Whatever you think about the rap beef, this is the best song to come out of it all. Listened to the other disses once but have listened to this multiple times. Skill 💯
I think Luke and mickey went the go for your head way, while royce went the I'll just out rap you path Depends on what u prefer. I personally like royces approach.
@Robert Petrie wraith doesn’t have the same replay value because of the corny angles he just barred out but what Royce did here technically will live forever just peep the patterns and substance “masculinity ain’t what toxic, the absence of it is” neither Lu or Mickey said some shit that hit the soul like that
It is a complete project from track to lyrics 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿 in my opinion they didn't check boxes, not to take away from their skills, both Lupe and Mickey are nice as hell. It just seems like the focus was more on dissing and not to make music to heal by and I hope their relationships don't grow apart but stronger.
@@dazziboi5726 it's okay to think that way. Imo, Mural is better in every possible way cept multis, and no one can prove me otherwise: Royce thinks that syllables are everything in lyricism and all that semantics shit isn't worth it that much.
Man this is all so seamless. So effortless, I guess it goes back to his freestyle on LA leakers. There's a line where he goes something like "they cast stones at the rap throne, the coin flips and, well all you gonna get is a splash from me".... It's almost as if he didn't even want to show how good he really is but niggas don't believe it and now he had to make this just for fun. Sounds like he could go for another 24hrs just killing this beat 1 way. He set the bar really high and that Mickey Factz track fell under it.
Lol we are comparing a spoon to a fork. Here we have Royce showcasing his rapping ability. I mean he even says it himself at the end of the song "I have alot of problems my nigga but rapping is not one of them". Now that to me just about shows whats the song about. Showcasing his rapping skills. Now Lupe dropped a Diss track instead of just out-rapping the dude. This isn't a Diss track, c'mon. Mickey and Lupe dropped Diss tracks but this isn't one.
@@jeremiahnovember2617 na Lupe got too emotional you could tell it affected him he was all in his feelings, and now he walking back all that disrespectful shit he was saying Talking about he wants Royce to beat him so he can learn and be better🤣😂 Lupe's just a fake thug that's about to be embarrassed when Royce comes back at him on his Malcolm X shit. Just wait you'll see
Don’t get me wrong I’m backing Mickey and Lu all the way but I don’t think Royce came at them with a bad diss at all. The thing is it seemed more playful with Royce just flexing his repertoire while his opposition went all Pusha T on him
My man Royce didn't know it was personal and thought it was all about healthy competition and then Lupe hit him in an hour like bitch this is personal Royce wasn't expecting that
@@nezofficial9860 That all changed when Royce called lupe a “Bitch”. What made Royce call lupe a bitch? Lupe was talking competitive about rap nothing about Royce. And Royce got his ego hurt and called him a bitch. Then go on to Threaten lupe. Y’all acting like they came out of nowhere and diss him 🤦🏾♂️
Royce was doing what Royce does, not being direct hardly at all lol, Lupe wasn’t being serious and his diss was funny, Mickey showed he can be a demon, Ransom even liked mickeys style switching.
This is a lyrical masterpiece definitely not a diss song. Well if you say it's one, then it's a bad diss song but a classic lyrical song. Feel free to prove me otherwise
@@jeremiahnovember2617 how’s that make any sense? Royce put on a lyrical display to show he was the more skilled rapper. Lupe must of took it to heart and got all personal… Royce won
Royce WASHED Lupe simply by being the better rapper out of both songs… Lupe only went personal because he couldn’t match up. The argument was who’s the better rapper and this was a masterpiece of proving that
Lupe and Micky came with some heat. I may be in the minority tho because I just like this track better. Lupe and Micky were more direct but Royce really showed a higher level of complete lyricism with the entendres internal rhyme schemes and the pockets of flows he was in. I think it depends on what you are looking for in a rap battle. If you looking for who has the more personals and who was more direct and aggressive then it's Lupe. If you think a battle against 2 elite MCs should be based on the display of their lyrical ability then you would like Royce's track better. Lupe wanted to show he can be more aggressive and direct, Royce wanted to show he could out rap. They're almost playing 2 different games. Really it almost seems like Royce wasn't completely seriously going at Lupe, just trying to show he is the better rapper. Meanwhile it looks like Lupe is really trying to chop off Royce's head. If you've heard Royce's disses before in the past then you know what I mean. This wasn't that
The original point was two friends arguing over whose the better rapper. Royce proved he was the better rapper, In response Lu got super personal and made a more direct, less skilled song. Royce wins
@@stevenbolewicki2289 I agree, that’s what I’m saying. I think Royce’s track is better because it displays better rhyming skills but the majority of fans usually like personal drama over rapping skills when it comes to battling. For instance, people always say Hit Em’ Up is one of the best diss tracks of all time but if you listen to it, it’s not because he is displaying any crazy lyrical ability. It is because it’s a drama filled track with Pac being loud, aggressive, and disrespectful. I just think Lupe is playing to the masses
@@stevenbolewicki2289 The better rapper is the rapper that made Mural. The better battler is the one that made the better diss. In this case both answers are Lupe
@@thetruest7497 they do be acting like Royce overshadowed Lupe with Lambda, lol. Bitch please, Mural alone displays better lyricism than all of Royce's songs, like you can't find a Royce song that's comparable to Mural lyrically, maybe near Mural, but not overshadowing Mural. Also, we have Twilight Zone, Failure, Mazinger and a lot of different Lu songs that proves that Lu is the better rapper lyrically. Edit: this was a beef, Lu didn't waste his time and went for Royce's head. Heck, Lu even said on IG live that metaphors and 60 different meanings behind them metaphors wasn't what Lu was trying to do when he wrote SLR 3 1/2.
@@Portthefirst exactly, countless Lupe songs lyrically are just lyrically better than anything Royce has given us, so spittin some multis wasn't going to magically undo that.
This ain't even a diss record. He basically showing Mickey and Lupe that he really does this. Mickey and Lupe then they Inna REAL rap beef lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
@@kmw319 they were but Royce called Lupe a bitch and fired some shots on this track, Lupe got too emotional and instead of replying with a super lyrical track firing some shots and showing he's a better rapper than Royce he directly went at his neck for 6 minutes
@@fakemal4041 well it was a competition for showing who's the better rapper, originally it wasn't a diss, Lu got called a bitch and got emotional and went at his neck when Royce just fired some shots
@@damianoabbina9967 so if he fired some shots then a rebuttal from Lu was warranted, no? And Lupe's rebuttal was a way better DISS. Royce was being an overly complex lyrical miracle and was too unfocused on dissing. And another key thing: it's marketed as a Lupe diss.
These videos are needed for every numpty who said this track was wack!. The colours layed out can help the fair weather hip hop fans understand how Royce destroyed Lupe, those same fans that think Lupe spanked Royce.
@@TheDemontr1 the rhyme scheme. So words are said then rhymes inside of rhymes which end on the original rhymes. The colours highlight the words that rhyme in the scheme. Look out for say a blue colour at the start followed by a bunch of other colours before tying back to that original blue colour. These videos help the casual who claim Royce rap was wack as they don't catch everything.
@@krump743 I get the purpose of the video, just never understood how it works! Going from my previous example in the first 2 lines you got "syn", "nig" ,"re" and "dis" all in same colour. What am I suppose to gather from that?
I am a fan of both Lupe and Royce, although moreso Royce in recent years... These guys are such masters of their crafts is like... two magicians going at it. To them, it's battle but to us, it's magic. Or like... two scientists on opposing stages proving and disproving scientific theorums. We need time to break down this stuff!
the point of the battle was to determine who’s the better rapper, the argument wasn’t about who’s better at making diss records. Royce won, period. I’m a fan of Lupe too but he did not perform at Royce’s level 🤷♂️. Even Lupe said that recently. He said himself that this was a masterpiece.
Royce approached this in a different way than Lupe and Mickey. He wanted to flex his technical and lyrical ability while the opposition were straight up battling. That makes it kind of hard to judge who won, especially since Royce doesnt seem to want to respond in a more rap battle-esque way like everybody wants him to. On a technical level Silence of the Lambda is by far the best song as of yet, but when it comes to the battle aspect of this "rap battle", Lupe and Mickey both kind of bodied Royce. i just hope he responds soon and that they keep this going, because they are all elite lyricists it is awesome to see them go at like this.
That was the point of the battle in your head. Royce clearly called for that smoke when he called Lu a bitch and not a killer, so what was Lu supposed to do come on some lyrical miracle shit or go for the jugular. We got both their catalogs if it was just about ‘checking boxes’. Since when has a battle been about checking boxes maybe a cypher but battles you humiliate your opponents Royce a clown
@@staydigitall it wasn't never supposed to be a traditional battle. It was originally supposed to be lyrical ability not murder you and your family type diss songs. If I'm not mistaken, royce dropped this song first, then lupe dropped his a few hours later and lupe was on some personal angry shit. That's when royce took a step back bc it went left and it's been going left ever since
At first, I thought Lupe got Royce for the first round, but after you highlighted Royce rhyme and do research, I think Royce edged Lupe. Royce gotta do something for Mickey, tho.
Lupe got the first round for me. Royce definitely better at technical ability. But Lupe aim for the head since this start. I think royce save his bullet for round 2
@@tm.taufiqmaulana so the better rapper means the best disser ? the whole thing started with who is the better rapper ... not the best battle rapper so how did lupe win at being the better rapper ?
@@prvkrazy You may not know this- but Lupe IS the better rapper. He won at being the better rapper by picking up a pen. He won this ROUND by being more direct and straight about it. It's just a far more lyrical version of MGK and Em. Better straight dissing, vs better overall lyricism. Except Rocye opponent is a far above MGK level lyricist. Royce won in technicality only. Everything else? Lupe smoked him. Like dude got DEEP.
Every great rapper is underappreciated and all popular ones are in the lime light Like he rhymes tight but they're rhymes might but of the side like ike being kicked by kyle right aight
Nah, Royce aimed at Lu. Really is saying much harsher stuff than people picking up on. Most people just missing a lot of the hard shit he saying about Lu. He really deserved that clap back from Lupe. Phenomenal exhibitions of lyrical mastery from two God MC's. But im still giving it to Lu right now. Funny my all time two favorite rappers are going at it with each other. Whats funny is that the bully is crying about being bullied by the Nerd. Can't make this shit up. Lol
Alot of y'all need to look up Royce's "diss tracks" to other artists, you'll see that this is NOT a diss track. You're comparing apples to oranges🤷🏽♂️ This was 🔥🔥🔥 Steve Jobs was 🔥🔥 WRAiTH was 🔥🔥🔥
@@imperialstats right? He's in a lot of peoples top five lists. Thats because he's very well rounded. Only a few can mess with Royce and Lupe and Facts are neither one of them 🤣
@@FediMayn Mural is regarded as the most lyrical rap song of 21th century by many hip hop stans. The question is, what song from Royce's catalog is comparable to Mural lyrically?
Here y’all go with mural.. the question is what has he’s done lately? Nothing!! Mural was how many years ago? Royce been spitting gems on a consistent basis back then till now!!
Ummmmm, no it wasn't but ok. Royce all over the place. Lupe was direct and everything was directed specifically to Royce and he did it 6hrs after Royce released this. Easily!
@@meaux-kneaux Nah Royce shit was so much better lyrically it's embarrassing. This was like a NBA player destroying a 5 year old skill wise. Yall Lupe fans just like shock value more than skill
@@absent72 yes, for sure it was better lyrically but Lupe KNOWS Royce isn't better lyrically so he didn't have to do anything but go directly at him. If you really really think Royce is more lyrical than Lupe, you don't listen to Lupe at all! Royce is super good though
@@meaux-kneaux Lupe himself listed 7 rappers on Twitter years ago that he knows he's not better than. This was before the Royce beef, but he listed Royce as one them. Lupe even knows he's not better than him
This is skill at the highest level.
He said hes "done promoting the dumb shit, then said he'll put a hole in your sun holding sunchips" and his entire 4 lines before that were total nonsense also. Lyrical spiritual individual...none of that crap is fooling anyone this is trash
@@DJSkiddMarks you try to do this I bet you you can’t do stfu !!!
@@DJSkiddMarks as soon as he said Sun Chips we knew exactly what was going on. This is God MC skill level at it's finest my nigga. I don't know what you on about. Even those 4 lines were prolly over your head
@@DJSkiddMarks you talk like you know what you are talking about.
the whole beef is about who is the best rapper so flexing lyrically is what he is doing here.
I’m guessing you didn’t hear slr 3.5 lmao
This man said "pain ain't even frequent just evil teasing the body it ain't even inside me it's just weakness leaving the body" my goodness. This is wild. Royce proving he's def one of the best.
Teasing the godly but yeah that shit had me stuck
Please timestamp
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This is god level rap...Absolutely an underrated masterpiece
Yo this song is hypnotic!! This flow is like being in a trance, he just goes in on it. Smooth af. Royce is on another level that only other wish to be at. I've listened to this track many times and it's a gem.
Nah b
@@garys841 well good for you writing something that means nothing.... do you have something to back up why you think " NAH B"???
Unfortunately i don't like how vocals are moxed
@@beatwizerd1976 lupe still destroyed him
Criminal how underrated this absolute masterpiece is. Royce had by far the best verse in this whole thing. Not even close.
Even Lupe said this is a masterpiece
@@juanclaudio1103 because he knows. It's kinda disappointing to see him accept the W even though he knows he didn't :/
@@JoeLancaster It depends how you look at it. This was a beef, so the more personal disses win. Royce made it personal without intending to and Lupe went in full force. I think Lupe had the better diss but Royce definitely had the rhyme schemes and written lyrics, not to discredit lupe's writing because he pulled up some good bars too, they just weren't as frequent as Royce's.
@@Tigers9596 yeah that's fair.
@@Tigers9596 it wasn’t a beef at first lupe took the first shot you can tell Royce wanted slaughterhouse type comp not diss tracks and fake beef think about it that’s why he put this shit together to show the levels Mickey n Lupe turned it into some shit that it wasn’t I’m a fan of all 3 but they handled this in the most immature way possible
the way all these condensed rhymes float w the beat is genius
He wasn’t as vile or venomous as Mickey or Lupe but this is a fucking Masterpiece. This rhyme scheme will haunt me for years!
Exactly
I believe this best describes it. Mickey went straight for the jugular, and Lupe was trying to hurt him. It seems like Royce's goal here was just to flex his lyrical dexterity. And in my personal opinion, his track has the most reply value of the 3.
@@SoulSeeker20 absolutely I agree with everything you said
He said some cut throat shit for sure just with more skill
Because the entire argument was about lyricism not straight dissing. I was there watching the live. Lupe's original response to Royce was more lyrical, then when he heard Silence of the Lambda he deleted it and made more personal response. Sure, it's entertaining but it's not what their original disagreement was about.
"Masculinty isn't toxic, the absence of it is." Line of the year for me.
feminine people are toxic?
@isyoustupid? what was I supposed to get? They said the absence of masculinity is toxic, is an absence of masculinity femininity? If so, what makes them toxic?
Bro i feel bad for you
@@BlackIGO lol why?
@@tinchairs6384 The absence of masculinity isn't femininity
How weird to define feminine characteristics as just a lack of masculine characteristics, with no substance or aspects of it's own
He been Underground, Under-rated, Underappreciated.
Listening to this while going for a walk, having the sun shine down upon me with tremendous delight, got me over edge of breaking down in tears and smiling simultaniously. My heart poured out pure joy and released its tension.
Much love xo
That pen cried after this was written.Has to be a top 250 rap verses ever written.
This is the pinnacle of rap... this is like watching Van Gogh paint a masterpiece.
Goat status right here I had to take my glasses off for this one I didn’t know someone dissected rhyme schemes like this 🥶🥶🥶🥶
I love this track so much. I had it on repeat. Took me like a week to decipher all the lyrics. It goes mental
Damn.. How does Royce write this 🙌
"I got plenty problems, rapping ain't one of those "...that'll sink in....
This was so heavy i couldn't finish it
Team work, people. Nickel and Em were scratching each other's brains for years.
Royce has flawless rhyme schemes, like it never feels like he's just forcing multis when rhyming... btw a suggestion for another song: Rhyme Asylum - "Stark Raving Genius", you don't have to do the whole song but Plazma's verse has some of the best multis I've heard
Hell yeah plazma the king of multisyllabic rhymes along with diabolic
20th Century boys
Royce still holding this L
Rhyme asylum are the ones
@@mikeking7684 RA is my blood type!
“You been ostracized,you used to rock with Nas, you was hot July,but look at you now ,you just Afu - Ra" like damn Royce🔥🔥
what he meant by "now u're just Afu-Ra"?
Explain
Well it means flesh exposed to humidity, “he ain't hot as he used to be"
You guys asking for an explanation might not even know that Afu-Ra is (or was? lol Royce's point kinda) a rapper
@@juanclaudio1103I recently stumbled to some old Afu-Ra songs (and kinda liked it), but I didn't know about his current situation with hip-hop or how fans of the genre look at him
Thanks man, you are quick. Appreciate you always being on top of things and producing these videos at such rate when it counts.
You put some work in for this one. Jesus Royce is good
That beat is sooo amazing
Royce killed this with kindness. Just wait if he taps into another type of energy whahaha
This is music! A beautiful beat with a mixture of bars and an effortless flow. You can ride down the street on a sunny with a girl or load an AR to this.💯
Royce is my favorite artist, thank you so much for doing this. Man, this is going to take a LONG time to completely decipher.
That’s because there is nothing to actually decipher because Royce doesn’t actually say anything large and cohesive.
As Jay said in the past about artists like Royce who confuse people intentionally to sound smarter
“And y'all buy the shit, caught up in the hype
'Cause the nigga wear a kufi, it don't mean that he bright
'Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write” - Jay Z
@etotheipi42 yea well Royce spurs that real shit and regardless what Jay said dude deserves his due. And Jay pen can’t touch Royce!!
When the fuck is this gonna end ? This track is mind blowing man !
You killed it bro🔥🔥🔥 And Royce just destroyed that shit. This is alien work 👽👽👽
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way .
Been saying this nigga Royce is a Alien 👾 for year 😂
Nigga multi flow patterns is computerized
First. Thank you mane please do all of the disses
When you realize that Royce has been holding back all these years so as to no be over people's heads, and he still manages to put segments together I can't imagine imagining.
Royce lost the battle but this track is a masterpiece .. Def gonna show this to my kids one day. That hansel emmanuel bar tho phewww
It wasn't a battle it was a competition. The live was about who the better lyricist is. I don't know how Lupe devolved into making his diss so personal. The entire argument between Lupe and Royce was about lyricism. Royce wasn't trying to diss here. He was proving a point.
royce won sorry fanboy kid
@Lagacy2 not even true for the people who don't know. They went from competition to battle real quick because Royce wouldn't rap in the first place.
If it wasn't battle rap then why were they talking about going on Smack? Exactly. There's obviously more than you know.
Lupes is short and to the point but sums up everything in totality. Royce is dope but his overly verbose ramblings represent him well.
Whatever you think about the rap beef, this is the best song to come out of it all. Listened to the other disses once but have listened to this multiple times. Skill 💯
I think that goes to wraith
I think Luke and mickey went the go for your head way, while royce went the I'll just out rap you path
Depends on what u prefer. I personally like royces approach.
@Robert Petrie wraith doesn’t have the same replay value because of the corny angles he just barred out but what Royce did here technically will live forever just peep the patterns and substance “masculinity ain’t what toxic, the absence of it is” neither Lu or Mickey said some shit that hit the soul like that
@@PlextheDestroyer You got right
Idk man wraith was fucking RAW
Great track. A lot of lyrical gems in here that some might have missed. Like the my asthma/miasma bar was 🔥 wordplay. Nice homophone.
Brilliant
Thanks man,musta took a lotttaa efforts to make this, liked and subscribed👌⚡🔥
Big alliances, clique of lions, that’s eyein Elk… that shit is CRAAAAZZZZZY
This word play and rhyme scheme is on a different level compared to the response tracks.
@MV740 man you a goofy I swear 😂😂
It is a complete project from track to lyrics 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿 in my opinion they didn't check boxes, not to take away from their skills, both Lupe and Mickey are nice as hell. It just seems like the focus was more on dissing and not to make music to heal by and I hope their relationships don't grow apart but stronger.
damn this is a job bro I'm suprisedyou actually took on this amount of work lol I hope this youtube makes you $
good job bro🤘🤘
"The streets wont hand us no manual so we go Hansel Emmanuel" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥, If you know you know!
U tha goat for this
What a technical masterpiece!!! This is Royce's "Mural"
However this is not a diss lol
I think it’s better than mural. Crucify me
@@dazziboi5726 it's okay to think that way. Imo, Mural is better in every possible way cept multis, and no one can prove me otherwise: Royce thinks that syllables are everything in lyricism and all that semantics shit isn't worth it that much.
@@Portthefirst Yes, Mural is better than this song.
@@dazziboi5726 Not even close.
I thought mural was garbage. I couldn't make it last the first 3 minutes of BS to hear the other 5.
The more important the news is, more distorted the views is 💥🔥🔥 one of the hardest bars i've ever heard
The end of this song is goat status
Pure genius and WISDOM 💪💕🧚♂️❤️👑👑👑🕊
I'm left dead.this beyond..good works
Royce been the king since Liberty city. PAY ATTENTION.
Man this is all so seamless. So effortless, I guess it goes back to his freestyle on LA leakers. There's a line where he goes something like "they cast stones at the rap throne, the coin flips and, well all you gonna get is a splash from me".... It's almost as if he didn't even want to show how good he really is but niggas don't believe it and now he had to make this just for fun. Sounds like he could go for another 24hrs just killing this beat 1 way. He set the bar really high and that Mickey Factz track fell under it.
Lol we are comparing a spoon to a fork. Here we have Royce showcasing his rapping ability. I mean he even says it himself at the end of the song "I have alot of problems my nigga but rapping is not one of them". Now that to me just about shows whats the song about. Showcasing his rapping skills. Now Lupe dropped a Diss track instead of just out-rapping the dude. This isn't a Diss track, c'mon. Mickey and Lupe dropped Diss tracks but this isn't one.
This shit goes crazy
When you listen to this you see why he hasn’t responded. It’s all here. There’s nothing left to really say. Lol Like, this is a whole book! Lol
That cialis Niagara line is fucking amazing
Can u do lupe fiasco- Steve jobs next
That shit will be embarrassing don't do that it'll just further prove how far beyond Lupe Royce is
@@charlierose1708 are you joking? Like royce undoubtedly has a better song but beef wise lupe fuckin murdered him.
@@jeremiahnovember2617 na Lupe got too emotional you could tell it affected him he was all in his feelings, and now he walking back all that disrespectful shit he was saying
Talking about he wants Royce to beat him so he can learn and be better🤣😂 Lupe's just a fake thug that's about to be embarrassed when Royce comes back at him on his Malcolm X shit. Just wait you'll see
@@jeremiahnovember2617 i second that,
Lupe definitely had the better diss track(Royce's had better schemes tho imo)
Lyrical dexterity on a level the most prolific rappers could only dream of.
This is a master class
oh my, holy, fucking Gawd.
Don’t get me wrong I’m backing Mickey and Lu all the way but I don’t think Royce came at them with a bad diss at all. The thing is it seemed more playful with Royce just flexing his repertoire while his opposition went all Pusha T on him
My man Royce didn't know it was personal and thought it was all about healthy competition and then Lupe hit him in an hour like bitch this is personal Royce wasn't expecting that
True that.🤣
He gave em a good song showcasing his skills. They started talkin about his career and impact
@@nezofficial9860 That all changed when Royce called lupe a “Bitch”. What made Royce call lupe a bitch? Lupe was talking competitive about rap nothing about Royce. And Royce got his ego hurt and called him a bitch. Then go on to Threaten lupe. Y’all acting like they came out of nowhere and diss him 🤦🏾♂️
Royce was doing what Royce does, not being direct hardly at all lol, Lupe wasn’t being serious and his diss was funny, Mickey showed he can be a demon, Ransom even liked mickeys style switching.
@@nezofficial9860 that's what happens when you weak... They weak.
O verso inteiro? Parabéns! Ótimo trabalho!
"Detroit Pain"....☝🏿🖤😔💯
Yessir, we out here…313
I randomly play this song Shit so good make me shed a tear
“Battle me A$AP that’s for PDA with Rihanna” 😂😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥
Both lupe and Mickey definitely won the “battle”, but this song will be in my playlist for the next decade.
This is a lyrical masterpiece definitely not a diss song. Well if you say it's one, then it's a bad diss song but a classic lyrical song. Feel free to prove me otherwise
You summed it up persfectly
Didn't you watch the live? That's what the whole argument between Lupe and Royce was about. They were debating which one of them is the most lyrical.
Was waiting on this
Yeah I don't know what these Lupe stans are on. This shit was a lyrical masterclass
Lupe has done this loads of times so he has nothing to prove. And his disses were great, Royce was just schemin
royce made a song, LUPE BATTLE RAPPED HIM. that's the difference and that's why lupe won thr beef.
@@jeremiahnovember2617 how’s that make any sense? Royce put on a lyrical display to show he was the more skilled rapper. Lupe must of took it to heart and got all personal… Royce won
@@stevenbolewicki2289 Then he shoulda shown some lyricism, not just syllable bibliblible. Royce got weak lyrics and paid a dear price for it.
@@bmn1326 did yu read the lyrics ? Y’all slow af .
I like Lupe more but this is just a master piece of flow and rhyming. This is insane.
Lyrical Mastery at its finest. 🤯🤌
Definitely a top 5 Verse by Royce, not a very practical diss tho
Royce WASHED Lupe simply by being the better rapper out of both songs… Lupe only went personal because he couldn’t match up. The argument was who’s the better rapper and this was a masterpiece of proving that
And once Lupe had someone else join the battle it proved he lost. But folks don't wanna see that
Royce is a king
Lupe and Micky came with some heat. I may be in the minority tho because I just like this track better. Lupe and Micky were more direct but Royce really showed a higher level of complete lyricism with the entendres internal rhyme schemes and the pockets of flows he was in. I think it depends on what you are looking for in a rap battle. If you looking for who has the more personals and who was more direct and aggressive then it's Lupe. If you think a battle against 2 elite MCs should be based on the display of their lyrical ability then you would like Royce's track better. Lupe wanted to show he can be more aggressive and direct, Royce wanted to show he could out rap. They're almost playing 2 different games. Really it almost seems like Royce wasn't completely seriously going at Lupe, just trying to show he is the better rapper. Meanwhile it looks like Lupe is really trying to chop off Royce's head. If you've heard Royce's disses before in the past then you know what I mean. This wasn't that
The original point was two friends arguing over whose the better rapper. Royce proved he was the better rapper, In response Lu got super personal and made a more direct, less skilled song. Royce wins
@@stevenbolewicki2289 I agree, that’s what I’m saying. I think Royce’s track is better because it displays better rhyming skills but the majority of fans usually like personal drama over rapping skills when it comes to battling. For instance, people always say Hit Em’ Up is one of the best diss tracks of all time but if you listen to it, it’s not because he is displaying any crazy lyrical ability. It is because it’s a drama filled track with Pac being loud, aggressive, and disrespectful. I just think Lupe is playing to the masses
@@stevenbolewicki2289 The better rapper is the rapper that made Mural. The better battler is the one that made the better diss. In this case both answers are Lupe
@@thetruest7497 they do be acting like Royce overshadowed Lupe with Lambda, lol. Bitch please, Mural alone displays better lyricism than all of Royce's songs, like you can't find a Royce song that's comparable to Mural lyrically, maybe near Mural, but not overshadowing Mural. Also, we have Twilight Zone, Failure, Mazinger and a lot of different Lu songs that proves that Lu is the better rapper lyrically.
Edit: this was a beef, Lu didn't waste his time and went for Royce's head. Heck, Lu even said on IG live that metaphors and 60 different meanings behind them metaphors wasn't what Lu was trying to do when he wrote SLR 3 1/2.
@@Portthefirst exactly, countless Lupe songs lyrically are just lyrically better than anything Royce has given us, so spittin some multis wasn't going to magically undo that.
This ain't even a diss record. He basically showing Mickey and Lupe that he really does this. Mickey and Lupe then they Inna REAL rap beef lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
"Cruelty to emcess is intellectual bravado"
Royce tha G.O.A.T 🐐
Yet people act like he didnt respond. He wasnt as direct but he definitely outrapped
He's definitely gonna have to dumb it down for some of the people in the back 🔥🔥🔥
oh no, it was definitely dumb enough for his stans.
@@thetruest7497I see, went completely over your head
@@latidagrace8054 😂😂😂 exactly what do you think is hard to catch in a Ryan Montgomery song 🤔
These are beginner raps
@@thetruest7497 you used his full name lmao but hate stems from love I can’t stand you fake ass hip hop fans Royce is a goat
@@PlextheDestroyer 🤣🤣🤣 imagine thinking Ryan is the 🐐. He doesn't suck, but he isn't anywhere near a goat convo in any category.
Whats crazy is the original of this song was 12 mins but he cut it to 7 minutes
Lupe challenged him to prove that he is the best
Well, there go lupe
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 Royce was way too unfocused. Lupe had a way better diss track.
@@fakemal4041 aren't they friends? When did this beef happen?
@@kmw319 they were but Royce called Lupe a bitch and fired some shots on this track, Lupe got too emotional and instead of replying with a super lyrical track firing some shots and showing he's a better rapper than Royce he directly went at his neck for 6 minutes
@@fakemal4041 well it was a competition for showing who's the better rapper, originally it wasn't a diss, Lu got called a bitch and got emotional and went at his neck when Royce just fired some shots
@@damianoabbina9967 so if he fired some shots then a rebuttal from Lu was warranted, no? And Lupe's rebuttal was a way better DISS. Royce was being an overly complex lyrical miracle and was too unfocused on dissing. And another key thing: it's marketed as a Lupe diss.
Come on!!! How do you do that!!!!!! So relaxed so smooth kill them with such an articulate grooooooovve 😂😂😂😂😂🥰
Royce is masterful here
syllable biblible lol cant multi your way out of the bruising Lupe and Mickey gave him
💐💐💐
I see the stans here in full force trying to resurrect a dead man 😂
@Jeremy Ely 🙄
🔥 🔥 🔥
Yessir get Wraith by Mickey Factz next
@@michaelhunt739 factz
These videos are needed for every numpty who said this track was wack!. The colours layed out can help the fair weather hip hop fans understand how Royce destroyed Lupe, those same fans that think Lupe spanked Royce.
are same colours meant to rhyme? For eg How does "syn" "nig", "re" and "dis" have same colour? Please help me understand.
@@TheDemontr1 the rhyme scheme. So words are said then rhymes inside of rhymes which end on the original rhymes. The colours highlight the words that rhyme in the scheme. Look out for say a blue colour at the start followed by a bunch of other colours before tying back to that original blue colour. These videos help the casual who claim Royce rap was wack as they don't catch everything.
@@krump743 I get the purpose of the video, just never understood how it works! Going from my previous example in the first 2 lines you got "syn", "nig" ,"re" and "dis" all in same colour. What am I suppose to gather from that?
Same syllable... Try Pronouncing them without the consonants... They'll all make the same sound
@@stilou sy, re ,ni and di? is that even a thing? it's not the part of the word that is sounded.
Awesome song, cadence what's immense, content runneth over, gor a diss song thou..the homie Lupe kilt Royce.
Goat
I am a fan of both Lupe and Royce, although moreso Royce in recent years... These guys are such masters of their crafts is like... two magicians going at it. To them, it's battle but to us, it's magic.
Or like... two scientists on opposing stages proving and disproving scientific theorums. We need time to break down this stuff!
I still believe this was better then lupe's.
Can someone tell me what song is sampled on this? I know Kenny beats sampled it for SUNDOWN TOWN as well.
the point of the battle was to determine who’s the better rapper, the argument wasn’t about who’s better at making diss records. Royce won, period. I’m a fan of Lupe too but he did not perform at Royce’s level 🤷♂️. Even Lupe said that recently. He said himself that this was a masterpiece.
Royce approached this in a different way than Lupe and Mickey. He wanted to flex his technical and lyrical ability while the opposition were straight up battling. That makes it kind of hard to judge who won, especially since Royce doesnt seem to want to respond in a more rap battle-esque way like everybody wants him to. On a technical level Silence of the Lambda is by far the best song as of yet, but when it comes to the battle aspect of this "rap battle", Lupe and Mickey both kind of bodied Royce. i just hope he responds soon and that they keep this going, because they are all elite lyricists it is awesome to see them go at like this.
Exactly. Finally someone with a brain
That was the point of the battle in your head. Royce clearly called for that smoke when he called Lu a bitch and not a killer, so what was Lu supposed to do come on some lyrical miracle shit or go for the jugular. We got both their catalogs if it was just about ‘checking boxes’. Since when has a battle been about checking boxes maybe a cypher but battles you humiliate your opponents Royce a clown
Exactly!
@@staydigitall it wasn't never supposed to be a traditional battle. It was originally supposed to be lyrical ability not murder you and your family type diss songs. If I'm not mistaken, royce dropped this song first, then lupe dropped his a few hours later and lupe was on some personal angry shit. That's when royce took a step back bc it went left and it's been going left ever since
Royce es buenísimo en lírica
At first, I thought Lupe got Royce for the first round, but after you highlighted Royce rhyme and do research, I think Royce edged Lupe.
Royce gotta do something for Mickey, tho.
Lupe got the first round for me. Royce definitely better at technical ability. But Lupe aim for the head since this start. I think royce save his bullet for round 2
Lupe won for me, Lupe was way more direct and was funnier. Lupes wasn’t random and flexing just to flex. Mickey checked 📦 😂
@@tm.taufiqmaulana so the better rapper means the best disser ? the whole thing started with who is the better rapper ... not the best battle rapper so how did lupe win at being the better rapper ?
@@prvkrazy You may not know this- but Lupe IS the better rapper. He won at being the better rapper by picking up a pen. He won this ROUND by being more direct and straight about it. It's just a far more lyrical version of MGK and Em. Better straight dissing, vs better overall lyricism. Except Rocye opponent is a far above MGK level lyricist. Royce won in technicality only. Everything else? Lupe smoked him. Like dude got DEEP.
@@prvkrazy You can't win the guns game if you not shot the target right?
Royce❤️🔥
Death note verses. Great safe battle rap
Every great rapper is underappreciated and all popular ones are in the lime light
Like he rhymes tight but they're rhymes might but of the side like ike being kicked by kyle right aight
My god😲
Nah, Royce aimed at Lu. Really is saying much harsher stuff than people picking up on. Most people just missing a lot of the hard shit he saying about Lu. He really deserved that clap back from Lupe. Phenomenal exhibitions of lyrical mastery from two God MC's. But im still giving it to Lu right now. Funny my all time two favorite rappers are going at it with each other. Whats funny is that the bully is crying about being bullied by the Nerd. Can't make this shit up. Lol
exactly, he mentioned chilly which must be a sensitive topic for him. Royce asked for it.
Alot of y'all need to look up Royce's "diss tracks" to other artists, you'll see that this is NOT a diss track. You're comparing apples to oranges🤷🏽♂️
This was 🔥🔥🔥
Steve Jobs was 🔥🔥
WRAiTH was 🔥🔥🔥
They need to listen to a lot of old Royce cause he aint for the play play if he lets loose
Facts this a masterpiece they need to stop disrespecting the Legend this God Mc Music
@@imperialstats right? He's in a lot of peoples top five lists. Thats because he's very well rounded. Only a few can mess with Royce and Lupe and Facts are neither one of them 🤣
@@FediMayn Mural is regarded as the most lyrical rap song of 21th century by many hip hop stans. The question is, what song from Royce's catalog is comparable to Mural lyrically?
Here y’all go with mural.. the question is what has he’s done lately? Nothing!! Mural was how many years ago? Royce been spitting gems on a consistent basis back then till now!!
Royce killed him with the kindness. Didn't even bring that aggressive energy. Didn't need to.
I don't understand how anyone had lupe winning this was way more entertaining and timeless
Ummmmm, no it wasn't but ok. Royce all over the place. Lupe was direct and everything was directed specifically to Royce and he did it 6hrs after Royce released this. Easily!
@@meaux-kneaux Nah Royce shit was so much better lyrically it's embarrassing. This was like a NBA player destroying a 5 year old skill wise. Yall Lupe fans just like shock value more than skill
@@absent72 yes, for sure it was better lyrically but Lupe KNOWS Royce isn't better lyrically so he didn't have to do anything but go directly at him. If you really really think Royce is more lyrical than Lupe, you don't listen to Lupe at all! Royce is super good though
@@meaux-kneaux Lupe himself listed 7 rappers on Twitter years ago that he knows he's not better than. This was before the Royce beef, but he listed Royce as one them. Lupe even knows he's not better than him
@@absent72 I think he was trying to be nice...did he say lyrically or artist wise?