I’m sorry but if police came to my door and said they wanted to search the property for a body under this kinda circumstance where I wouldn’t be under suspicion I would undoubtedly let them. I can’t imagine not giving consent on something that could possibly help a grieving family find closure
Meh, I can sort of see it. If I worked hard to make my house and yard nice and all of a sudden cops show up and want to dig it up, I'm not sure I'd be thrilled either. And then I'm going to be associated with a murder?
Imagine going on the Internet to learn more about your mother then finding out your dad was the main suspect in her disappearance. I do wonder if the kids names were also changed so they can't know about their mum?
I doubt it, simply because the oldest was 9 and they all would've known their names, as well as Patty's. He likely just fed them a shit ton of lies about her and her family, unfortunately.
I doubt it, as well, as Patty's life insurance was put in a trust for the kids to receive when they turned 18 & that would've had the kids' names on that paperwork. I also think JR completely poisoned the kids towards Patty's family & that's why they've never reached out to that side of the family, which is heartbreaking for Patty's family. I think it's possible JR's sister is the female DNA found in Patty's van. When she refused to give up a DNA sample, I wonder why LE didn't stake out her garbage & take it from there?? I hope this case will be solved eventually & also that the kids will contact Patty's family & be open to a relationship with them.
Probably what happened was he was trying to manipulate her into getting back together with him, and when It didn't work he flew into a fit of rage and killed her.
At least he didn't kill the kids I know it sounds crude but I've heard so many stories about killing your whole family and he had enough sense to sperate them from his hate for her
oops i uploaded these in the wrong order hahaha classic i was going to upload this after christmas hence the ‘happy new year’ at the end 🙊 but MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! i hope you all have a wonderful day ❤️💚❤️💚❤️
Imagine how many could have been saved if this 48-72 hour waiting period never existed . Imagine if police treated every case seriously and didn’t just brush it off for far too long . How many men women and children could have come home alive…. It’s a heart breaking thought
It’s not a thing, at least where I am. It’s a myth. The police will tell you that you have to wait 48-72 hours but if you want to fill out a police report, you should do exactly that. If they tell you to wait, ask to do a police report anyway. It’s better to be safe than sorry.
This is classic behavior from an abuser. I think he was so sure he wouldn't be caught too so some narcissism and arrogance were involved. So sick that JR needed to control things so much. Patty deserved happiness and safety, just like every abuse survivor.
Yes , as always the women is the totally innocent victim. Get real, she wasn’t even divorced and had a new man? Not a good person. In some countries , what her husband did is legal and justifiable
I’ve always wondered if the kids of missing people ever stumble upon these types of videos and find out shocking details about one of their loved ones..
The fact that they found traces of blood around the house and ON A MOP AND MOP BUCKET and still let JR get away without being polygraph tested or without letting them question the kids. AND the fact that Patsy was so quick to be charged with assault and robbery and JR got nothing.
I live in Pleasanton and went to this school. Growing up there were rumors that there was the ghost of a woman who was murdered by her husband and buried underneath the gym building. I had no clue this was an actual case! It’s honestly sad and very scary.
100% I think JR had something to do with it. Some Texan men have an arrogance about them where they don't think they can be messed with and they can get away with things. Plus with the lengths that he went to to ensure his children were never questioned and that his and their DNA were never taken, he did his part to cover it up and knew he'd done enough to get away with it.
I'm still surprised the police didn't just get DNA and finger prints from his rubbish bin. Just wait for collection and the moment the bin men pick up the bin, intercept and take the contents.
I am stunned that he was able to get away with what he did all those years, makes me so furious because it's blatantly obvious he's the number 1 suspect in the case and the coincidence of all of this happening so suddenly and the fact the van was freshly cleaned with air let out, he filed for divorce right after is highly sus, he isolated the children and completely cut off any outsiders or detectives to help solve the case. Why wouldn't you want to help find the mother of your children. It's disgusting that such a narcissistic, controlling, woman abuser was able to gain custody of his children, more then likely murdered his already moved on and happy ex wife and was never arrested or held accountable for his part in her disappearance and not helping find her either. I truly hope her family and those children will be ok and that he never find's peace and no matter where he moves too he'll always be haunted by her and die a miserable death. It sickens me that they didn't do more, or couldn't do more.
Another video?!? You are truly giving us all such gifts!! A few days ago I was like huh I feel like it’s been a while since I’ve seen an upload from Bella, and here you are three days in a row. Kind of genius to take a few weeks to pre record and then surprise us with video after video, while a bunch of the channels I watch aren’t posting until the new year, which I totally understand don’t get me wrong, but I appreciate this so much Bella!!! You have no idea. Christmas has always been rough for me so thank you so much!!! Happy holidays! 💕
JR didn’t put on an act because he’s probably a complete narcissist. He knew he would lawyer up and never say a word. He got away with murder. Disgusting ! He’ll pay for what he did if now in this life then in the next.
I think narcissistic traits and arrogance can cause a guilty person to not “act guilty”. Probably just is under the assumption that he won’t get caught anyways so it doesn’t matter
BELLAAAAA, spending Christmas Eve binging your videos!! Love u so much! And hope u & Kerri (not sure of the spellings right lol) have a great holiday!! ❤️
FYI: I'm 5'2" and drive with my seat up close. But when I get out, I push it all the way back, just because it's easier to get out and back in. So if anyone sees my car that way, it's normal.
I know that the legal system can make it difficult, but you'd think there could have been more done here. Maybe after so long, the DA should have considered charging without a body, using circumstantial evidence. It's been this long and she hasn't been found, so it's almost like, what is there to lose? Bring it before a grand jury and see if they'll indite. I wonder if they checked his and his sister's call log. He may have called her to come over and get the kids out of there..(so he could "clean up") So sad. But GO MAMA BEAR!!! I hope they dropped her charges.
Tbh they won't unless they get more physical evidence. Someone can obviously be guilty as sin (think OJ or Casey Anthony) and if theres no physical evidence there's almost no point in holding a trail bc if the perp is found guilty even without psychical evidence, theres a lot of legal issues and ways for them to get retrails, appeals, etc. It really sucks because he seems so guilty, but there's just not enough to justify a trail and the cost of one. If they had a body they'd have a better chance I think
I 100% think that the dad manipulated the children for years to keep them from wanting to contact their mom’s family. My foster children’s adoptive parents cut me out of their lives and this is my biggest fear…that they’re manipulating them into never trying to contact me when they’re old enough 😢
Weird thought but I wonder if Patty wasn’t killed and she and Gary had stayed together if he would have been killed in that car accident. You know the whole “butterfly effect” and all that. It’s interesting to think that if a certain set of circumstances had been different what would have happened?
Maybe not, because her being alive would change the circumstances as well. Maybe if they had been married, they would have moved from that area or bought a new car. Maybe he got into the accident because he was in bad mental health after her disappearance. Many possibilities
He definitely fed his kids lies about the family. At least, I would have to think so. They were young but I do feel they were old enough to have fond memories of them, so the biggest factor prohibiting them would be their shitty father. I'm sure the mother beating him with a baseball bat was perfect fuel for him to use against them. Plus, they likely wholeheartedly believe his innocence and Patty's family does not. There's a lot that he could've spun to make them refuse contact with that side of the family which is truly sad and horrible. As they said, they had to lose their daughter and all 3 of her children. How horrific. I hope he didn't tell them that she just ran off and abandoned them :(((
To whoever reads this: You are valued and important. Your life matters and you make a difference. I know the holidays can be lonely and these days are really hard for some people…so if that’s you reading this, just know that I see you and I care and you are never alone. Sending love to you this holiday season. ❤️
Bringing in Christmas Day watching Bella! Kids are at their Dads and I’m a night owl so here I am at 5am watching true crime. Hope you all are having a wonderful holiday season!
Based on location and name I think I may be related to these people. I keep finding extended family and there’s a lot of them. Really interesting story.
Happy late Thanksgiving, Bella! Ive spent the last 2 days binging your videos. Idk how i, a true crime "fanatic" (for lack of better wording) & just discovered you a few days ago but out of the 10-15 youtubers i watch for this genre, youre officially my new fav!
I think JR absolutely is responsible for her disappearance! It's so sad that the kids don't have any relationship with the kids. If it was thought that someone could possibly be buried on my property, I would let them search in a heartbeat!! I couldn't live with myself if I was possibly interfering with someone being found and laid to rest in a proper burial. . Merry Christmas everyone! Merry Christmas Bella! 🎄☃️💫 Hope everyone has an amazing holiday! 🤗♥️
Hi! I've been watching your videos for years now and after all this time, you're still my favorite true crime/ unsolved case youtuber! Always look forward to your videos, thank you for taking the time to research these cases and stories and telling them to us so well. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years Bella!!!
Parental/family alienation is one of the highest forms of evil. JR sounds like a textbook narcissist. I’d love to hear what wife #2 has to say about him.
He most definitely did it, his family helped out. He was obviously mad that she left him and got with Gary. Makes me disgusted, because they lost their mom, the person who brought them into this world. And he probably tells his kids she didn’t love them, so they hate their mom. She’s not even here to defend herself
It’s funny, whenever I watched like JCS or other interrogation videos, the comment section is back to back “morons! Why would anyone agree to be interviewed without a lawyer present!?” Then I watch true crime and the comment section is like, “he’s/ she is totally guilty, who but a guilty fellow needs Lawyer to be interviewed by the police?” Nothing against your comment specifically, just a funny thing. :) P.s I agree, he seems shady
Ooooomggg another videooo, this makes me soo happy!!! Happy holidays Bella, thank you so much for the effort you put in to your videos. Every time you post it's like a gift :) You are such a cute person, hugs! ❤️
I hear ya ! I feel dreadful that you feel this way today but I get it because I’m kinda in the same mindset! TH-cam will help see us through the day ! 😊 I do genuinely hope you are ok ?
@@user-ob7zi5mj2e I don’t think for one minute that a missing person makes anyone happy ! I think every other person on here has commented thanking Bella for the upload as for many today they are totally on their own for Christmas & will probably spend it watching TH-cam. Ryan Joel probably could have worded it better by saying “need the upload today “ Not used the word ‘ content ‘ as I can see how that could sound the way you took it ……but I think we know what he actually meant. People are always thanking TH-camrs for their uploads …….I don’t think it means they are rejoicing in the tragedy! It’s always terribly sad content .
I'm very impressed that you pronounced Bexar County correctly. Almost no one who isn't from here knows how to pronounce it. (I know this is an old video, but I just found your channel.)
Every time I watch one of your videos the first thing I do is look at your earrings!! Your peppermint earrings are just so cute in the vid!! Love u❤️❤️ merry Christmas everyone, or happy holidays to those who don’t celebrate Christmas❤️
Found him on FB and it makes me sick to see pics of him enjoying his life with his grandkids while he literally got away with murder. I pray that they are able to prosecute him one day and that the truth comes out.
It that was my mother and I’m now a adult I wouldn’t stop for anything to find out what happened to her. Those kids know something but unfortunately they were brain washed. I hope the family gets justice for her.
Firstly, love your earrings 🍬! I always look to see how pretty they'll be the second I turn on your vids! Yes, I absolutely think J.R. had something to do with this! And question for you and everyone in the comments,"Do you think their should be grandparents rights?" I mean I do, BUT ONLY IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, LIKE THIS! It's makes me so sad that they lost their mom, and they don't get to see their grandparents! Smh! This was a tragic story, and I give my condolences to everyone involved. I do wanna say Merry Christmas to you and your family Bella, and the fam here! 🎄❄☃️
I think there may be a theory regarding the children not contacting the mom's family after they got older that could easily be overlooked. (To preface, i have done no independent research on this case, I'm only going from what i learned in the video.) Could it be possible that because the dad moved away and changed his name after her disappearance the kids never even realized their mom was missing? Could he have sheltered them so heavily that they believed their mom simply ran away? I'm sure they may have eventually realized the truth but could they have felt so detached that they felt it was almost inappropriate to reach out to her side of the family? I could very easily be completely off base, I'm just wondering if this could be a viable theory for why they didn't attempt any connection.
I was 20 when this happened and I'd completely forgotten this story. I live about 15 minutes from Lavernia. Totally forgot about this. Crazy that you're covering it all the way from Australia. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas, Bella
Also I wonder about the jumpsuit. There is a highschool here in San Antonio called James Madison, unfortunately I cannot remember the school colors or when it was built. Could JR have gone to Madison, took a mechanic class and somehow still fit into it all those years later? The J. M. on the back kind of looks like the logo on the lettermen jackets. Edit: it was built in 1976 and their colors are orange and blue.
I live in La Vernia, I had my daughter on December 9th and at that time we lived in Adkins which is another small town before you get to La Vernia. At the time my ex was with the fire dept. in Adkins and they held A huge search people on horseback, people on 4 wheelers, A newscaster that owned his own helicopter came out, this was the biggest search and nothing was found! One thing everyone out here believe is he did it inop! Someone that batters their wife and refuses every request made by the Sheriff. Just so everyone knows at that La Vernia had only 1 stop light and search was difficult because we're out in the country, farm and ranch land. (25 years ago) This time every year I pray that her kids are doing well and that they find her remains so her family could lay her to rest.
Hey Bella, I adore your channel and am so grateful for all the hard work you do. I would love to get your views on the Adam Emery case from 1993. I’d never heard of it until watching a vintage Unsolved Mysterious ep recently and I’m still gobsmacked by it. Road rage, murder, dude officially declared dead in 2001 but added to FBI’s Most Wanted in 2010 and no more news since... It’s a rollercoaster of crazy. And his wife was as much to blame for the murder as him and got her comeuppance, but where the hell is he??? I just… yeah.👀 Hope you and yours have the happiest of holidays! (P.S. - Used your Casetify discount code and got the cutest case ever - cheers to you!!🙌🏻)
Loving your videos, thanks for the uploads. Oh, and, Your accent was so familiar to me but I couldn’t quite place it, then it hit me! You sound exactly like the characters from Kath & Kim ! (Which I absolutely love and have watched at least three times) It’s a very specific accent
It breaks my heart because her boyfriend very obviously loved her and they were happy together and to have some pathetic bitter ex come and take her life away over that is truly devastating.
Oh wow! A local case to me. Stoked to hear your coverage and I’ll be back with theories. 🤙🏽 Aight so; in addition to the Pleasanton elementary school search, there was another at a school in Natalia, Texas allegedly a few months after her disappearance in 1997 as JR began construction on Natalia High School in 1996 as well. Flash forward - 2006, search behind gymnasium at Natalia High School; cadaver dogs hit; authorities called off search after digging 10ft *under* concrete slab - *but wouldn’t her remains be within the concrete slab…?* _Not to be incredibly morbid or sound outrageous but that seems like the perfect way to conceal something or someone._ - June 2006, search at a construction dump site in Pleasanton that JR used in Dec. ‘96; land owner said JR dug a pit there in Dec. ‘96 - *my money is on the idea he used this pit as a temporary location to hide her body until he could encase her in cement, then pour a cement foundation on top;* Texas Rangers said they didn’t have enough leads to dig up the land. - April 2007; search led by her family at a former construction dump site of JR’s in Pleasanton, likely the same one listed just above; 100 square foot area; dug 10 ft and called it off? - May 2008: new bexar county cold case detectives find the ‘JM’ jumpsuit within a pile of mens clothing found in her van; my theory is that this is likely JR’s, or an accomplice of his - perhaps he wore it during the murder and accidentally forgot it when someone dumped her van. *Important to note that the case is being handed back and forth during all this time from Wilson County Sheriff’s Department (La Vernia area) and the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office - specifically with cold case detectives now. IMO, Wilson co dropped the ball with this case from the jump and Patty’s family states the same. Shotty investigative work. Although, I read that deputy Adrian Ramirez (BCSO) who took over the case in 2008 was actually one of the evidence technicians who processed her van and the house - which technicians didn’t take pictures of the luminol or house because “they ran out of film” according to Patty’s aunt, Barbara, after asking why that was. The consensus around town is that JR definitely killed Patty. I’ve heard rumor that her remains could be at the local elementary school but that could just be talk or a mix up with the other involved schools but I will say that passing by and dropping my nieces off there always gave me the heebie jeebies. I’ll have to look into when it was built.
I’m sorry but if police came to my door and said they wanted to search the property for a body under this kinda circumstance where I wouldn’t be under suspicion I would undoubtedly let them. I can’t imagine not giving consent on something that could possibly help a grieving family find closure
Not to mention, I don't think I could be okay with living in a house where a murder victim has been hidden and just... not doing anything about it
unless they were hiding something themselves, either drugs or stuff unrelated to the investigation.
Exactly! I will never understand that.
They probs didn’t want them to find a body there and have the property lose value before they sold it on
Lol what does that tell you?
i’m mostly pissed off at the new house residents not letting the investigators look at their house
I'm surprised they couldn't get a warrant to search. I wouldn't let investigators look on or in my property without one either.
Exactly! I personally would love to know if a dead body is lying around in my backyard, but to each their own, I guess.
Right!!! If there was just a body in my yard id be like dig that shit up cause ghosts!? No thank you!
i get that but people actively going out their way stop the search is really gross
Meh, I can sort of see it. If I worked hard to make my house and yard nice and all of a sudden cops show up and want to dig it up, I'm not sure I'd be thrilled either. And then I'm going to be associated with a murder?
Imagine going on the Internet to learn more about your mother then finding out your dad was the main suspect in her disappearance. I do wonder if the kids names were also changed so they can't know about their mum?
I doubt it, simply because the oldest was 9 and they all would've known their names, as well as Patty's. He likely just fed them a shit ton of lies about her and her family, unfortunately.
I doubt it, as well, as Patty's life insurance was put in a trust for the kids to receive when they turned 18 & that would've had the kids' names on that paperwork. I also think JR completely poisoned the kids towards Patty's family & that's why they've never reached out to that side of the family, which is heartbreaking for Patty's family. I think it's possible JR's sister is the female DNA found in Patty's van. When she refused to give up a DNA sample, I wonder why LE didn't stake out her garbage & take it from there?? I hope this case will be solved eventually & also that the kids will contact Patty's family & be open to a relationship with them.
@@donnaparrish7638 Really, do they atleast know their dad was the prime suspect?
@@donnaparrish7638 That's understandable
@@jbeannie90 yep, I was expecting a stake out to get a water bottle or cig butt. They screwed that up
These people won’t ever let their partners be happy and move on, it makes me sad every time I hear about it in one of these cases…
Probably what happened was he was trying to manipulate her into getting back together with him, and when It didn't work he flew into a fit of rage and killed her.
Right, like let people go and be free.
It’s always a man tho, they’re sick
At least he didn't kill the kids I know it sounds crude but I've heard so many stories about killing your whole family and he had enough sense to sperate them from his hate for her
oops i uploaded these in the wrong order hahaha classic
i was going to upload this after christmas hence the ‘happy new year’ at the end 🙊 but MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! i hope you all have a wonderful day ❤️💚❤️💚❤️
merry christmas bella!! hope you have an amazing day & get spoiled🤍
Merry Christmas to you too🎄♥️
Merry Christmas Beautiful 💕
Merry Christmas, Bella! Have a lovely new year, too!
Adorable Earrings Bella. Always love to see what rAd jewels you got hanging.
Imagine how many could have been saved if this 48-72 hour waiting period never existed . Imagine if police treated every case seriously and didn’t just brush it off for far too long . How many men women and children could have come home alive…. It’s a heart breaking thought
It’s not a thing, at least where I am. It’s a myth. The police will tell you that you have to wait 48-72 hours but if you want to fill out a police report, you should do exactly that. If they tell you to wait, ask to do a police report anyway. It’s better to be safe than sorry.
This is classic behavior from an abuser. I think he was so sure he wouldn't be caught too so some narcissism and arrogance were involved. So sick that JR needed to control things so much. Patty deserved happiness and safety, just like every abuse survivor.
Yes , as always the women is the totally innocent victim. Get real, she wasn’t even divorced and had a new man? Not a good person. In some countries , what her husband did is legal and justifiable
You’re just trawling for a bite, troll.
I’ve always wondered if the kids of missing people ever stumble upon these types of videos and find out shocking details about one of their loved ones..
The fact that they found traces of blood around the house and ON A MOP AND MOP BUCKET and still let JR get away without being polygraph tested or without letting them question the kids. AND the fact that Patsy was so quick to be charged with assault and robbery and JR got nothing.
They were definitely working with him
I live in Pleasanton and went to this school. Growing up there were rumors that there was the ghost of a woman who was murdered by her husband and buried underneath the gym building. I had no clue this was an actual case! It’s honestly sad and very scary.
Why is it in these stories, the husband always says they argued and the wife ran off. That is a RED FLAG
100% I think JR had something to do with it. Some Texan men have an arrogance about them where they don't think they can be messed with and they can get away with things. Plus with the lengths that he went to to ensure his children were never questioned and that his and their DNA were never taken, he did his part to cover it up and knew he'd done enough to get away with it.
girl…. that’s literally every man not just texan man
cf. J.R. Ewing in the great Dallas series !
I'm still surprised the police didn't just get DNA and finger prints from his rubbish bin. Just wait for collection and the moment the bin men pick up the bin, intercept and take the contents.
@@nondisclosure3920 Thank you! I was wondering why they didn’t do that doesn’t it seem obvious?
@@maggiekarabel123 Damn right! Honestly, some police should be seriously ashamed at their lack of effort!
I am stunned that he was able to get away with what he did all those years, makes me so furious because it's blatantly obvious he's the number 1 suspect in the case and the coincidence of all of this happening so suddenly and the fact the van was freshly cleaned with air let out, he filed for divorce right after is highly sus, he isolated the children and completely cut off any outsiders or detectives to help solve the case. Why wouldn't you want to help find the mother of your children. It's disgusting that such a narcissistic, controlling, woman abuser was able to gain custody of his children, more then likely murdered his already moved on and happy ex wife and was never arrested or held accountable for his part in her disappearance and not helping find her either. I truly hope her family and those children will be ok and that he never find's peace and no matter where he moves too he'll always be haunted by her and die a miserable death. It sickens me that they didn't do more, or couldn't do more.
Wouldn’t it be possible to ask the children now that they’re grown. Up whether they want to submit dna.. now they have a say in it
Another video?!? You are truly giving us all such gifts!! A few days ago I was like huh I feel like it’s been a while since I’ve seen an upload from Bella, and here you are three days in a row. Kind of genius to take a few weeks to pre record and then surprise us with video after video, while a bunch of the channels I watch aren’t posting until the new year, which I totally understand don’t get me wrong, but I appreciate this so much Bella!!! You have no idea. Christmas has always been rough for me so thank you so much!!! Happy holidays! 💕
I know I was so happy when she posted again and mostly with 2 new videos!
she is doing some type of binge postong before christmas
I’m on my bfs account but literalllly same
Yea
JR didn’t put on an act because he’s probably a complete narcissist. He knew he would lawyer up and never say a word. He got away with murder. Disgusting ! He’ll pay for what he did if now in this life then in the next.
I think narcissistic traits and arrogance can cause a guilty person to not “act guilty”. Probably just is under the assumption that he won’t get caught anyways so it doesn’t matter
BELLAAAAA, spending Christmas Eve binging your videos!! Love u so much! And hope u & Kerri (not sure of the spellings right lol) have a great holiday!! ❤️
Same girl, SAME! Hope you have a lovely holiday
FYI: I'm 5'2" and drive with my seat up close. But when I get out, I push it all the way back, just because it's easier to get out and back in. So if anyone sees my car that way, it's normal.
Same 😂😂
I know that the legal system can make it difficult, but you'd think there could have been more done here. Maybe after so long, the DA should have considered charging without a body, using circumstantial evidence. It's been this long and she hasn't been found, so it's almost like, what is there to lose? Bring it before a grand jury and see if they'll indite. I wonder if they checked his and his sister's call log. He may have called her to come over and get the kids out of there..(so he could "clean up") So sad. But GO MAMA BEAR!!! I hope they dropped her charges.
Tbh they won't unless they get more physical evidence. Someone can obviously be guilty as sin (think OJ or Casey Anthony) and if theres no physical evidence there's almost no point in holding a trail bc if the perp is found guilty even without psychical evidence, theres a lot of legal issues and ways for them to get retrails, appeals, etc. It really sucks because he seems so guilty, but there's just not enough to justify a trail and the cost of one. If they had a body they'd have a better chance I think
christmas season is kind of miserable and your videos are giving me so much joy
Me toooooooo!! Sorry yours is miserable too 😔
@Victoria, are you okay? 🤭 💛 🌞 👌 🌼. 💛 ✌️
Uhhhhhh tragedies bring you joy?
@@an0mEMouse true crime is comforting and calming in a way because life is shitty but at least im not being murdered or kidnapped/tortured
@@kathrynbillinghurst188 *hug*
I 100% think that the dad manipulated the children for years to keep them from wanting to contact their mom’s family. My foster children’s adoptive parents cut me out of their lives and this is my biggest fear…that they’re manipulating them into never trying to contact me when they’re old enough 😢
Weird thought but I wonder if Patty wasn’t killed and she and Gary had stayed together if he would have been killed in that car accident. You know the whole “butterfly effect” and all that. It’s interesting to think that if a certain set of circumstances had been different what would have happened?
That’s certainly interesting to think about.
I literally thought the same exact thing 🤯
Maybe not, because her being alive would change the circumstances as well. Maybe if they had been married, they would have moved from that area or bought a new car. Maybe he got into the accident because he was in bad mental health after her disappearance. Many possibilities
I know this is far fetched but what if she was meant to die like that and maybe Gary and patty were soulmates and he just followed her?
Merry Christmas to you and your family Bella. Stay safe over the new year x
He definitely fed his kids lies about the family. At least, I would have to think so. They were young but I do feel they were old enough to have fond memories of them, so the biggest factor prohibiting them would be their shitty father. I'm sure the mother beating him with a baseball bat was perfect fuel for him to use against them. Plus, they likely wholeheartedly believe his innocence and Patty's family does not. There's a lot that he could've spun to make them refuse contact with that side of the family which is truly sad and horrible. As they said, they had to lose their daughter and all 3 of her children. How horrific. I hope he didn't tell them that she just ran off and abandoned them :(((
Poor Patty! And Gary.
I’m sure JR murdered her. I’m sure he didn’t want her getting his money. It’s how these stories go.😞
OMG 3 VIDEOS IN A ROOOWWWW!!! I’ve been needing something to watch
Same!!!
What a treat to have you on Christmas Eve Bella! (Still the 24th in Europe) Merry Christmas 🎅 and thank you very much.
Seems like she’s posted everyday this week!!! And I’m so glad! (It’s still the 24th in America too) happy holidays!
To whoever reads this: You are valued and important. Your life matters and you make a difference. I know the holidays can be lonely and these days are really hard for some people…so if that’s you reading this, just know that I see you and I care and you are never alone. Sending love to you this holiday season. ❤️
Same to you ❤️
Same to you sweetheart!
Bella! You are definitely spoling us this week!!!
This case drives me insane every time I hear it. I always watch these videos because I am just praying on day there will be an update.
Same
Yeeesss I love to see you dropping all these videos! I’ve been missing them! Have a great time with loved ones on these up coming holidays girl!! ❤️🎄
Love the daily uploads, making my Christmas even better! Safe safe
Same!!! 🎄
Bringing in Christmas Day watching Bella! Kids are at their Dads and I’m a night owl so here I am at 5am watching true crime. Hope you all are having a wonderful holiday season!
Based on location and name I think I may be related to these people. I keep finding extended family and there’s a lot of them. Really interesting story.
I love that you poster 3 videos in a row
Happy late Thanksgiving, Bella! Ive spent the last 2 days binging your videos. Idk how i, a true crime "fanatic" (for lack of better wording) & just discovered you a few days ago but out of the 10-15 youtubers i watch for this genre, youre officially my new fav!
I think JR absolutely is responsible for her disappearance! It's so sad that the kids don't have any relationship with the kids.
If it was thought that someone could possibly be buried on my property, I would let them search in a heartbeat!! I couldn't live with myself if I was possibly interfering with someone being found and laid to rest in a proper burial. .
Merry Christmas everyone! Merry Christmas Bella! 🎄☃️💫 Hope everyone has an amazing holiday! 🤗♥️
Merry Christmas Me🎄gs.
Hi! I've been watching your videos for years now and after all this time, you're still my favorite true crime/ unsolved case youtuber! Always look forward to your videos, thank you for taking the time to research these cases and stories and telling them to us so well. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years Bella!!!
Parental/family alienation is one of the highest forms of evil. JR sounds like a textbook narcissist. I’d love to hear what wife #2 has to say about him.
I live in San Antonio, TX and I've never heard of this case. Crazy!
thank you so much for still posting my family doesn’t really want me around it seems like and you have no idea how un alone your videos make me feel
Look at you, pumping out those Christmas gifts for your loving fans 🥰
Loving the earrings- time for a look at what's new in your collection :) xxoo
omggg yay! i just came from watching your other videos!! love ya bella 🥰
Me too!!! 😆
He most definitely did it, his family helped out. He was obviously mad that she left him and got with Gary. Makes me disgusted, because they lost their mom, the person who brought them into this world. And he probably tells his kids she didn’t love them, so they hate their mom. She’s not even here to defend herself
It’s funny, whenever I watched like JCS or other interrogation videos, the comment section is back to back “morons! Why would anyone agree to be interviewed without a lawyer present!?” Then I watch true crime and the comment section is like, “he’s/ she is totally guilty, who but a guilty fellow needs Lawyer to be interviewed by the police?”
Nothing against your comment specifically, just a funny thing. :)
P.s I agree, he seems shady
Ikr
Ooooomggg another videooo, this makes me soo happy!!! Happy holidays Bella, thank you so much for the effort you put in to your videos. Every time you post it's like a gift :) You are such a cute person, hugs! ❤️
Omg ANOTHER? I’m cooking Christmas Eve dinner and bored in the kitchen expecting no one to be uploading today. Appreciate you!!!
Same!! She’s busy this week!! And thank goodness! Merry Christmas!! 🎄
SO GLAD YOUR POSTING AGAIN!!!
Bella your thumbnail looks like you’re apart of their family picture !! Lol. Merry Christmas and happy new year to you too !
THANYOU! christmas is so fucking depressing, i need this content today!
It is for me too, so you’re not alone!! ❤️
I hear ya !
I feel dreadful that you feel this way today but I get it because I’m kinda in the same mindset!
TH-cam will help see us through the day ! 😊
I do genuinely hope you are ok ?
So a missing person makes you happy 🤔
@@user-ob7zi5mj2e I don’t think for one minute that a missing person makes anyone happy !
I think every other person on here has commented thanking Bella for the upload as for many today they are totally on their own for Christmas & will probably spend it watching TH-cam.
Ryan Joel probably could have worded it better by saying “need the upload today “
Not used the word ‘ content ‘ as I can see how that could sound the way you took it ……but I think we know what he actually meant.
People are always thanking TH-camrs for their uploads …….I don’t think it means they are rejoicing in the tragedy!
It’s always terribly sad content .
@@user-ob7zi5mj2e is that what they said?
Happy holidays Bella!
I hope her kids watch this, and decide to reach out to their mother’s family:(
Thanks for putting out a video during the holidays!
okay but can we talk about how literally stunning she looks in this vid
I'm very impressed that you pronounced Bexar County correctly. Almost no one who isn't from here knows how to pronounce it. (I know this is an old video, but I just found your channel.)
Love your video it is always so worth the wait
Spending my Christmas Day getting ready and watching this wooo
Every time I watch one of your videos the first thing I do is look at your earrings!! Your peppermint earrings are just so cute in the vid!! Love u❤️❤️ merry Christmas everyone, or happy holidays to those who don’t celebrate Christmas❤️
Found him on FB and it makes me sick to see pics of him enjoying his life with his grandkids while he literally got away with murder. I pray that they are able to prosecute him one day and that the truth comes out.
What is his facebook
Patty you are definitely remembered and I know that Jr did it and Justice will happen.
Has anybody noticed her earrings? Perfect for Christmas.Keep on the good work! Also merry Christmas 🎄
It that was my mother and I’m now a adult I wouldn’t stop for anything to find out what happened to her. Those kids know something but unfortunately they were brain washed. I hope the family gets justice for her.
Merry Christmas, Bella! Thanks for making this year extra special! :)
Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it and Happy Holidays to all of you! 💗 I hope that everyone is enjoying spending time with their loved ones.
OMG THIS IS THE EARLIEST IVE BEEN. Eyoooo three videos in a row. GO GET IT BELLA
Marry Christmas Bella I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas 🎄 BTW I love ❤️ your videos, keep up the great work!
Firstly, love your earrings 🍬! I always look to see how pretty they'll be the second I turn on your vids! Yes, I absolutely think J.R. had something to do with this! And question for you and everyone in the comments,"Do you think their should be grandparents rights?" I mean I do, BUT ONLY IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, LIKE THIS! It's makes me so sad that they lost their mom, and they don't get to see their grandparents! Smh! This was a tragic story, and I give my condolences to everyone involved. I do wanna say Merry Christmas to you and your family Bella, and the fam here! 🎄❄☃️
I agree with you! 👏🏻
Ahhhh Bella! We don’t deserve you!🥰 I’m gonna wrap gifts while I watch this!
I think there may be a theory regarding the children not contacting the mom's family after they got older that could easily be overlooked. (To preface, i have done no independent research on this case, I'm only going from what i learned in the video.)
Could it be possible that because the dad moved away and changed his name after her disappearance the kids never even realized their mom was missing? Could he have sheltered them so heavily that they believed their mom simply ran away? I'm sure they may have eventually realized the truth but could they have felt so detached that they felt it was almost inappropriate to reach out to her side of the family? I could very easily be completely off base, I'm just wondering if this could be a viable theory for why they didn't attempt any connection.
That's what I believe happened. They have no idea.
It’s kind of a terrifying knowing exactly the place you’re talking about because I live in SA.
That is so scary!
The best gift I got for Christmas was two of your videos to listen to while I do my makeup ❤️💚
Personal attack dog his sister Marilyn 😂😂😂 you crack me up
Thank you for posting so much content for us!!
Yessssss Bella posting back to back is the best Christmas gift ever🥰🥰 Merry Christmas everybody & I hope you all have a Happy New Year!! ❤️
Merry Christmas Belle, I’ve really enjoyed watching you channel and want to say thank you for sharing such interesting stories!!! Judy
Bella! Thank you for the Christmas stories! Merry Christmas to you and your family. I hope your 2022 is AMAZING
Every one of your videos just get better and better!
Listening to a new Bella video to fall asleep on Christmas Eve ☺
And you’ve done it again more videos! I need sleep but your videos are addictive🤣
Have a great Christmas and all the best for the new year love youuu🤍
look forward to these videos every year! have a wonderful new year
yooo a 3rd video in a week? Heck yes🥰
I was 20 when this happened and I'd completely forgotten this story. I live about 15 minutes from Lavernia. Totally forgot about this. Crazy that you're covering it all the way from Australia. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas, Bella
Watching this while preparing Christmas dinner😊, the best Christmas gift✨✨
bella makes me feel so safe watching these lol!
Also I wonder about the jumpsuit. There is a highschool here in San Antonio called James Madison, unfortunately I cannot remember the school colors or when it was built. Could JR have gone to Madison, took a mechanic class and somehow still fit into it all those years later? The J. M. on the back kind of looks like the logo on the lettermen jackets.
Edit: it was built in 1976 and their colors are orange and blue.
Yes you've been pumping out the content
3 videos in 3 days? We are so spoiled, merry xmas belllaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :D
Yay! You pronounced Bexar County correctly!! Have a great new year Bella!! ❤ you lots!!
Great video Bella!! Happy Holidays my friend.
I’m absolutely fuming that he got away with it and Merry Christmas!!
Hi! What a great birthday gift to see you posting today!
Happy Birthday!!!
happy birthday!
Merry Christmas! Loving the uploads!
I live in La Vernia, I had my daughter on December 9th and at that time we lived in Adkins which is another small town before you get to La Vernia. At the time my ex was with the fire dept. in Adkins and they held A huge search people on horseback, people on 4 wheelers, A newscaster that owned his own helicopter came out, this was the biggest search and nothing was found! One thing everyone out here believe is he did it inop! Someone that batters their wife and refuses every request made by the Sheriff.
Just so everyone knows at that La Vernia had only 1 stop light and search was difficult because we're out in the country, farm and ranch land. (25 years ago) This time every year I pray that her kids are doing well and that they find her remains so her family could lay her to rest.
Hey Bella, I adore your channel and am so grateful for all the hard work you do. I would love to get your views on the Adam Emery case from 1993. I’d never heard of it until watching a vintage Unsolved Mysterious ep recently and I’m still gobsmacked by it. Road rage, murder, dude officially declared dead in 2001 but added to FBI’s Most Wanted in 2010 and no more news since... It’s a rollercoaster of crazy. And his wife was as much to blame for the murder as him and got her comeuppance, but where the hell is he??? I just… yeah.👀 Hope you and yours have the happiest of holidays! (P.S. - Used your Casetify discount code and got the cutest case ever - cheers to you!!🙌🏻)
That’s insane. I hope she covers this case!
Loving your videos, thanks for the uploads. Oh, and, Your accent was so familiar to me but I couldn’t quite place it, then it hit me! You sound exactly like the characters from Kath & Kim ! (Which I absolutely love and have watched at least three times) It’s a very specific accent
It breaks my heart because her boyfriend very obviously loved her and they were happy together and to have some pathetic bitter ex come and take her life away over that is truly devastating.
Oh wow! A local case to me. Stoked to hear your coverage and I’ll be back with theories. 🤙🏽
Aight so; in addition to the Pleasanton elementary school search, there was another at a school in Natalia, Texas allegedly a few months after her disappearance in 1997 as JR began construction on Natalia High School in 1996 as well.
Flash forward
- 2006, search behind gymnasium at Natalia High School; cadaver dogs hit; authorities called off search after digging 10ft *under* concrete slab - *but wouldn’t her remains be within the concrete slab…?* _Not to be incredibly morbid or sound outrageous but that seems like the perfect way to conceal something or someone._
- June 2006, search at a construction dump site in Pleasanton that JR used in Dec. ‘96; land owner said JR dug a pit there in Dec. ‘96 - *my money is on the idea he used this pit as a temporary location to hide her body until he could encase her in cement, then pour a cement foundation on top;* Texas Rangers said they didn’t have enough leads to dig up the land.
- April 2007; search led by her family at a former construction dump site of JR’s in Pleasanton, likely the same one listed just above; 100 square foot area; dug 10 ft and called it off?
- May 2008: new bexar county cold case detectives find the ‘JM’ jumpsuit within a pile of mens clothing found in her van; my theory is that this is likely JR’s, or an accomplice of his - perhaps he wore it during the murder and accidentally forgot it when someone dumped her van.
*Important to note that the case is being handed back and forth during all this time from Wilson County Sheriff’s Department (La Vernia area) and the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office - specifically with cold case detectives now. IMO, Wilson co dropped the ball with this case from the jump and Patty’s family states the same. Shotty investigative work. Although, I read that deputy Adrian Ramirez (BCSO) who took over the case in 2008 was actually one of the evidence technicians who processed her van and the house - which technicians didn’t take pictures of the luminol or house because “they ran out of film” according to Patty’s aunt, Barbara, after asking why that was.
The consensus around town is that JR definitely killed Patty. I’ve heard rumor that her remains could be at the local elementary school but that could just be talk or a mix up with the other involved schools but I will say that passing by and dropping my nieces off there always gave me the heebie jeebies. I’ll have to look into when it was built.
local case for me too.. i’m in shock because i was born in Bexar county, and lived in jourdanton for the first 10 years of my life.. insane
Bella, MERRY CHRISTMAS! I enjoy your work and your beauty!! THANKS.
22:04 my mind also went to JR's sister when you mentioned they found female DNA
I LOVE ALL THE UPLOADS UR MY FAV TH-camR OMGG💗💗