So awesome that Lars made this happen! HRC has never been this transparent with their race bikes. Thank You Honda! Thanks to Chase, Hunter and Jett! Ride Red!
Yeah, you can tell Kris used to race in his younger years, but Steve looked like all he has ever done was ride trails the way he puttered around the track.
What an awesome video. So cool to have two different kinds of riders talent, age and wobble or weight of riders. Would love to see you guys do this for all the factory teams. Props to Honda,Larz, and all the team that made this happen. Good luck luck at Loretta’s this week Kiefer. #33/#1/+40!!!
I know you guys realize just how amazing it was for Honda to let you ride their factory bikes, ESPECIALLY the bikes that are winning the championships this year. Absolutely epic dream ride right there!!
Actually pushing the lever in makes it easier to pull. Your pulling from further up the lever. Creating more leverage. If you perfure 1 finger or middle over index. It makes it easier to feather. It can save the lever in a fall. But some Teflon tape under the perch works just as good
Levers being pushed in doesn't just mean you break less levers, it lets you pull them in easier by using the end of the lever. Physics, you're increasing the moment arm reducing the torque(pull force) required to engage, less fatigue and arm pump.
💯 on torque/lever arm with levers run in. Also if you’re just using one finger for the clutch it makes the pull so much easier. Funny thing is they commented how much easier the church pull was on Jett’s but attributed to the lever not the position
@churchofbrap876 you like apples? How many likes did YOUR comment get? How ya like those apples? And yeah, I’m the dude from Good Will Hunting that will rock your ass! I’m all bite, no bark brother! No need in the nonsense you spew! All NEGATIVE SCHITT just because you have a different opinion than someone else? WTF??
Great breakdown guys. very informative for us the average retired rider and fan. Hey that was cool to hear about the reason that the Lawrence boys clutch levers are in like that. It's amazing what you get used to. You might think they'd say now they are rich and famous, "let's have them back out now dad. We more levers back in the truck." But no. if there's a risk they may break in a points race then dad has taught them a valuable tip. Hope to see more tests like this. Well done. PS; I wonder if in any future elaborations on the test you did on Chases bike you could explain if you felt if the set up would have any baring on why he has those seemingly simple weird crashes. It is like you cannot see any rhyme or reason for them. The bike is up one millisecond and down the next??? It is not as if it is one or two. there was just so many this year.
I haven't gotten past 2 minutes yet but I find it pretty amazing that HRC would allow anyone other than a factory rider to throw a leg over a factory bike. Much less start one and take it out on the track.
One of them (I think Mattes) said he was surprised by how much pop Hunter's 250F had and suggested the bike wasn't at a disadvantage on gate drops. The next step is to somehow convince Star to let you on their bikes for a whopping 15 mins. I'd love love love a comparison of the 250s and 450s respectively. and what, if anything, do the blue bikes give up in handling/stability for that powa? i know. i know. who doesn't want this? hehe
@@churchofbrap876 No video but there was this one time.😃 Seriously though, I commend Steve for giving us a good laugh with his appearance and riding. He is truly a man of the people. No hate here. 👍
@@churchofbrap876there is no videos of me riding a factory anything but I guarantee you can put Steve on a factory bike and me on a stock bike. I will pass him every time. He needs to stay off the track...
Suucchhh a sick video! How many sports allow this kind of access to their audience?? NONE! Loved how Steve read the room and let Lars go while keefer went full geek😂😂
I have observed the US outdoor riders suspension setup and tuning was much more of a SX tune influence when comparing to MXGP Euro setups. Jetts bike seems more in line with the correct setup for outdoor MX and racing. Even the tuners that revolve and offer suspension setup for weekend riders/racers, set the bikes up to high/firm in front and low in the rear as if the priority is riding through whoops.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always pushed my levers inward to take advantage of the lever leverage ratio, making it less fatiguing to pull levers. Closer you pull the lever in by the pivot, the harder it pulls.
Great video and a thump up to Lars. Hopefully other brands will let you do the same. Great for Steve to arange this and Keefer is great to break it down
I only noticed two things in this video, it looks like the two 450s run a different header pipe and Steve is better rider than I could’ve ever imagined. 😂
I push my levers in until only 2 fingers can reach them. I use the ball on the end of the lever to anchor my finger so fanning the clutch and slipping the clutch can be very precise. And I can always keep at least two fingers anchored on the grip.
I gotta give Mathes credit where credit is due. He has good form and balance on the bike. Especially for his age and for a guy that doesn't ride a lot. Impressive.
Interesting about keefers comments about the clutch lever. AJ Catanzaro from moto academy mentions everyone at HRC run the same Renthal bars so they can mount the brake and clutch perch further in for their technique. Guess that doesn’t rule out them avoiding breaking levers young tho lol.
Ok so I am a Yamaha guy from way back , but man those Hondas look smooth this year. Is it the rider or the bike !!?? watching outdoors this year makes me want a Honda
Talking about Jetts clutch/front brake positioning and saying it isn't about technique. I've watched videos where Jett specifically says to do that to assist in getting elbows up and gripping with the outside of your hand? That sounds like technique to me lol
Its clear without even riding them that Star have a horsepower advantage! But Honda have definitely closed the gap. Took Jetts amazingness to win a title on that old CRF
I thought Steve looked pretty good on the track! He was having a blast, and looked cool doing it! And of course, he knows bikes - factory mechanics know them in and out, and honestly they are like lineman in the NFL who do all the heavy lifting to make things happen, and get little recognition! That's why him and Kris made a great team this day - Kris is more of the racer/tester, and Steve is more of a builder/technician! Very cool to have them two interact with HRC Honda!👍💪
Guys, to be fair, Warren Miller (ski films) said it best when he said "show me a guy who is as fast at 50 as he was at 20, and I'll show you a guy who was never fast." In other words, both Keefer and out of shape Matthes are well into vet land, and I am too, for that matter.
See the big guy his name is Steve. He is on a 250 so you could easily be able to ride it yourself I’m talking about me getting a bike and me and you both sharing it and spending time together and riding and enjoying our life.
Interesting, it seems that the bike setup has a lot to do with how the Lawrence’s ride and there body position. It seemed like each person that was on each bike adapted the that riders style.
Hats of to HONDA..👍 . For being transparent with your bikes ...The Red bikes are fantastic....your riders Rock...keep..them all happy...they love the red bikes as well...give JETT a blank check he deserves it...💪👍
Nice of you too break in suspension for Sexton. Still won't help against Jett and Hunter(if he stays uninjured for a while so he can race his bro as not many other have speed.
Matthes says he's "a tad over weight" that wallowed out jelly roll is obese, I could hear the bikes screaming for help to get his ass off the seat. That factory suspension was begging for mercy, and that stuff can take some serious abuse.
Congratulations to Steve for being the first C rider to make a Factory Bike's suspension look soft.
D rider you mean
Bahahahaha
@@CoreyBanks1 Double D tits rider
Have no effing idea how ANYONE could call that Vet B talent. Legit C rider at best!
Bro I laughed way to hard at this 😮😅
So awesome that Lars made this happen! HRC has never been this transparent with their race bikes. Thank You Honda! Thanks to Chase, Hunter and Jett! Ride Red!
Ride red get head!
Ditto!
Lucky bastards. Every single Honda fans dream. Hell ya. That was cool of Honda! Thank you Lars and American Honda for signing off on this.👍👍⬆️
Keefer is a real dirt bike rider
He used to race as a pro/privateer
Yeah, you can tell Kris used to race in his younger years, but Steve looked like all he has ever done was ride trails the way he puttered around the track.
What an awesome video. So cool to have two different kinds of riders talent, age and wobble or weight of riders. Would love to see you guys do this for all the factory teams. Props to Honda,Larz, and all the team that made this happen. Good luck luck at Loretta’s this week Kiefer. #33/#1/+40!!!
It's difficult to distinguish Mathis from jet and hunter. Very similar body types and technique.
🤣
I think matthes was the one going for the Anderson look with the untucked jersey.
Hilarious!!
@@_Bryant.R. It wasn’t untucked. It doesn’t fit. Lol
@@frankiek2269
Brilliant solid branding and customer goodwill that Honda just afforded to the public! Awesome test and video, Guys. Thanks.
I know you guys realize just how amazing it was for Honda to let you ride their factory bikes, ESPECIALLY the bikes that are winning the championships this year. Absolutely epic dream ride right there!!
“I don’t remember saying yes to this, maybe it was after a few drinks or something” 😂
Actually pushing the lever in makes it easier to pull. Your pulling from further up the lever. Creating more leverage. If you perfure 1 finger or middle over index. It makes it easier to feather.
It can save the lever in a fall. But some Teflon tape under the perch works just as good
Levers being pushed in doesn't just mean you break less levers, it lets you pull them in easier by using the end of the lever. Physics, you're increasing the moment arm reducing the torque(pull force) required to engage, less fatigue and arm pump.
Hey that matches my comment above. I push the perch in is as far as I can with fat bars. Would go even further if I ever had full 7/8".
💯 on torque/lever arm with levers run in. Also if you’re just using one finger for the clutch it makes the pull so much easier. Funny thing is they commented how much easier the church pull was on Jett’s but attributed to the lever not the position
Class act for the team honda hrc ❤️
Thanks to Lars and the team for making this possible.
That was one of the best test sessions I really enjoyed it I had a big smile the whole time. Hope there's more to come❤
Amazing HRC giving out factory Equipment to The Press to ride , Awesome Stuff!!
Thanks for this great video guys ! We all know that Factory Honda is the epitome of the sport no matter which team or bike you like.
Only thing I noticed is that the suspension sags more on all three bikes when Matthes is riding them! 🤣🤣
2nd comment. thought it might be first. was close. 😄
He's riding factory bikes, you're in your mom's basement making fun of him in the comments? Think about that keyboard warrior.
@@churchofbrap876well he is fat af and is a liberal. So we got that right to make fun of them
@@churchofbrap876 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@churchofbrap876 you like apples? How many likes did YOUR comment get? How ya like those apples? And yeah, I’m the dude from Good Will Hunting that will rock your ass! I’m all bite, no bark brother! No need in the nonsense you spew! All NEGATIVE SCHITT just because you have a different opinion than someone else? WTF??
Great breakdown guys. very informative for us the average retired rider and fan. Hey that was cool to hear about the reason that the Lawrence boys clutch levers are in like that. It's amazing what you get used to. You might think they'd say now they are rich and famous, "let's have them back out now dad. We more levers back in the truck." But no. if there's a risk they may break in a points race then dad has taught them a valuable tip. Hope to see more tests like this. Well done.
PS; I wonder if in any future elaborations on the test you did on Chases bike you could explain if you felt if the set up would have any baring on why he has those seemingly simple weird crashes. It is like you cannot see any rhyme or reason for them. The bike is up one millisecond and down the next??? It is not as if it is one or two. there was just so many this year.
Thank you Steve for pushing for this, and Keefer as always for the bike reviews! Now if only Mitch Peyton was as cool as Lars...
He’s not .
Thanks, Lars, Honda and Steve, for making it happen. Nice you showed and talked about the frame change. Awesome.
That was awesome. Fascinating to hear about how different Chase and Jetts bikes are. Great video.
Respect to the HRC crew for allowing this 🙏🙏🙏
Lars standing there making sure they don’t say anything they’re not supposed to 😂
Mathis says he wasn't scrubing but I bet there are tire marks on the fenders
😂
Lolololol
Keefers comment about Mathes 'looks like a swordfish jumping out of the Ocean' 😂😂😂😂
That's awesome haha props to HRC
I haven't gotten past 2 minutes yet but I find it pretty amazing that HRC would allow anyone other than a factory rider to throw a leg over a factory bike. Much less start one and take it out on the track.
One of them (I think Mattes) said he was surprised by how much pop Hunter's 250F had and suggested the bike wasn't at a disadvantage on gate drops. The next step is to somehow convince Star to let you on their bikes for a whopping 15 mins. I'd love love love a comparison of the 250s and 450s respectively. and what, if anything, do the blue bikes give up in handling/stability for that powa? i know. i know. who doesn't want this? hehe
Seeing Steve Matthes riding a bike is hilarious. It's a must watch.
Are there any videos of u riding factory HRC bikes on TH-cam? Please post the link.
@@churchofbrap876 No video but there was this one time.😃 Seriously though, I commend Steve for giving us a good laugh with his appearance and riding. He is truly a man of the people. No hate here. 👍
@@churchofbrap876there is no videos of me riding a factory anything but I guarantee you can put Steve on a factory bike and me on a stock bike. I will pass him every time. He needs to stay off the track...
@@pineychristian but he's riding factory bikes, you're a troll in the comments. Hmmm. Jealousy?
@churchofbrap876 there is no jealously when you make a factory bike look that bad and slow. He doesn't belong riding period.
gawd those 450s. I thought Matthes was gonna stall for sure at 2:08
Suucchhh a sick video! How many sports allow this kind of access to their audience?? NONE!
Loved how Steve read the room and let Lars go while keefer went full geek😂😂
Can’t believe Steve would wear American colors like that. Is he trying to divide the sport?
😂
Literally laughed out loud haha. Steve is becoming the grumpy old man pretty quickly
Makes it even better he was on a aussies bike 😂
Lmao thats great dude. What a dumb take by steve
haaahaha well played. oy oy oy
Matthes and Keefter are the MX version of the Odd Couple. 😄(gawd that's a dated reference 🤨).
100% 😂
LOL
I have observed the US outdoor riders suspension setup and tuning was much more of a SX tune influence when comparing to MXGP Euro setups. Jetts bike seems more in line with the correct setup for outdoor MX and racing. Even the tuners that revolve and offer suspension setup for weekend riders/racers, set the bikes up to high/firm in front and low in the rear as if the priority is riding through whoops.
Bucket list dream day -- congrats boys!!
Kudos to HRC 👏👏 Well done fellas 💪👊😉
Had to replace fork seals after Mathis
Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always pushed my levers inward to take advantage of the lever leverage ratio, making it less fatiguing to pull levers. Closer you pull the lever in by the pivot, the harder it pulls.
Great video and a thump up to Lars. Hopefully other brands will let you do the same.
Great for Steve to arange this and Keefer is great to break it down
The first shot of Steve on a bike on the track tripped my brain up, because I’m not used to seeing a guy that size on a dirt bike
He looks like a fitness model compared to when us old guys up here try to put in a lap - note that is lap singular. LapS are are a distant memory 🙂
I agree. very rare where I'm from. cool to see
😂😂😂😂😂😮 Definitely turned up the suspension.😢😅😅😅
STEVE SHOULD BE SPONSORED BY MICHILIN , HE COULD LITERALLY BE THE MICHILIN MAN!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@DonnyBerger seems like he is living a pretty good life.
Is JT pulling Steve’s gear deal for sporting the AStars shirt?
Steve looked good on the 250cc !! and Lars is so freaking cool !!!
I only noticed two things in this video, it looks like the two 450s run a different header pipe and Steve is better rider than I could’ve ever imagined. 😂
I wanted to see him do the uphill floater before the left then down thru trees.
I push my levers in until only 2 fingers can reach them. I use the ball on the end of the lever to anchor my finger so fanning the clutch and slipping the clutch can be very precise. And I can always keep at least two fingers anchored on the grip.
Pretty cool opportunity Lars set up for you guys. Thanks for sharing.
This type of stuff makes me want to buy a Honda! #ridered
Dude Steve looked damn good on hunters 250!
Steve doesn't look good on a motocross track....
I gotta give Mathes credit where credit is due. He has good form and balance on the bike. Especially for his age and for a guy that doesn't ride a lot. Impressive.
He cant seem to get up on the tank... takin corners like a wheelie boy!
That FLY jersey was LIT
Was thinking the same thing. Nice and smooth with good technique.
He was a pretty fast dude when he was younger👍
Steve needs the shock taken off the Team HRC semi and run on his bike.
Lucky guy
Great video guys, thanks
Interesting about keefers comments about the clutch lever. AJ Catanzaro from moto academy mentions everyone at HRC run the same Renthal bars so they can mount the brake and clutch perch further in for their technique. Guess that doesn’t rule out them avoiding breaking levers young tho lol.
The clutch lever thing !! Keeper!!! You're the best !!
They do run their levers in for technique, they have said in vids for an catanzaro it is to keep elbows up
Steve you lookin quick on that 250
"all you technique crazy dudes" Kief is the fuckin man lol
I got to the screen midway. The first thing I saw was the number 18 bike. I though, whooaa Jet really bulked up. He's huge.
Ok so I am a Yamaha guy from way back , but man those Hondas look smooth this year. Is it the rider or the bike !!?? watching outdoors this year makes me want a Honda
Lars is amazing for this
Keefer looks fast to be honest. Matthes looked good too ,suspension looks a lil soft steve . Wish i could see what those bikes are like
Nice.Go Ahead Steve. Looking Good.
Still crazy to me that HRC only have 4 factor riders
Quality, not quantity
I’m 5,9 213 and have same gear as Steve I realized that’s what I look like when I ride lol
yes but Steve is about 283
Sooooo jealous. Best bikes in the paddock!
Dont wanna come on my show boys??? Ok!! Ill ride your bikes!! -Steve 😂
Hey man Hats Off to SM he looked pretty good. You know Steve was thinking dam back in my day I would of ripped this Shit
Only thing Mathes ripped back in the day was his moto pants
Talking about Jetts clutch/front brake positioning and saying it isn't about technique. I've watched videos where Jett specifically says to do that to assist in getting elbows up and gripping with the outside of your hand? That sounds like technique to me lol
This is gold!!!!
What offset do they run on the triple clamps?
Was waiting for this vid!
Its clear without even riding them that Star have a horsepower advantage! But Honda have definitely closed the gap. Took Jetts amazingness to win a title on that old CRF
I thought Steve looked pretty good on the track! He was having a blast, and looked cool doing it! And of course, he knows bikes - factory mechanics know them in and out, and honestly they are like lineman in the NFL who do all the heavy lifting to make things happen, and get little recognition!
That's why him and Kris made a great team this day - Kris is more of the racer/tester, and Steve is more of a builder/technician!
Very cool to have them two interact with HRC Honda!👍💪
great work. so bloody cool.
Guys, to be fair, Warren Miller (ski films) said it best when he said "show me a guy who is as fast at 50 as he was at 20, and I'll show you a guy who was never fast." In other words, both Keefer and out of shape Matthes are well into vet land, and I am too, for that matter.
great job guys........
I don't give enough credit to Keefer , he looked like a bad ass on the bikes
See the big guy his name is Steve. He is on a 250 so you could easily be able to ride it yourself I’m talking about me getting a bike and me and you both sharing it and spending time together and riding and enjoying our life.
I just want to hear DV’s commentary
that would be very funny. And also JT when he sees mathes in that fly gear.
I see why Steve doesn’t want anyone to watch him ride at Millville lol
Do they mean the Lawrence's perches are "pushed" more center of handlebars? I do that so that my buddy Newton and his laws of leverage help me out.
How much extra power do the 250s have over a stock 250?
Interesting, it seems that the bike setup has a lot to do with how the Lawrence’s ride and there body position. It seemed like each person that was on each bike adapted the that riders style.
This was great. Lars..... Please let James Stewart do this same thing.
Hats of to HONDA..👍 . For being transparent with your bikes ...The Red bikes are fantastic....your riders Rock...keep..them all happy...they love the red bikes as well...give JETT a blank check he deserves it...💪👍
Looks fun!
How hilarious would it be if they showed everyone repeatedly washing the front end on Sexton’s bike😂
mathes is blazing fast said no one ever USA USA!!!!!!!
You cant possibly take 'bike insight' from a guy (steve) that stays in one spot on the bike around the entire track
He’s letting us know what the bikes like as a vet/ club level rider, yeah a massive market
I think I’d value this video a lot more if we had a James Stewart, RV test ride and give feedback on each bike hard to take this serious 😅
Haha kinda true but also us customers are closer to them than RV and JS7
I love how Steve is lugging around in 8th gear 🤣 the man really uses the low end torque!
Nice of you too break in suspension for Sexton. Still won't help against Jett and Hunter(if he stays uninjured for a while so he can race his bro as not many other have speed.
Lars is really cool! 😎
Pulp looks like a tomato on a toothpick on a bike. 😂
Love this
Matthes says he's "a tad over weight" that wallowed out jelly roll is obese, I could hear the bikes screaming for help to get his ass off the seat. That factory suspension was begging for mercy, and that stuff can take some serious abuse.
thanks men that was good
Steve's bike said"one at a time..one at a time"!😂
Jett could win on Canondale
Can't wait to see all the memes that come from this.#getoffthebike
Keefer fuckin rips. - Maine guy
Keefer still has a sick style