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Hello everyone - a long interview with me was just released on a new podcast if you might care to have a listen: th-cam.com/video/xZYDShZjKGk/w-d-xo.html
I have learned Ancient Greek by learning to speak it at the Polis Institute in Jerusalem. It has given me a very good foundation. Now I am deepening my knowledge with more traditional textbooks, aimed at a more literary register. The combination of both approaches is very powerful. I realized I had intuitions when reading the text that even well (but traditionally) trained philologist friends lack.
The Professor is back and is stronger than ever. How fortunate he also found such an eloquent interviewer. Ceasslessly entertaining and deeply informative at the same time. Professor's language prowess shines through as he answers every question. Your latest videos are really scratching my polyitis, even though I still struggle with German and am putting off Latin and French in fear of spreading myself too thin. Much success to all fellow language learners!
For interested Latin and Greek learners, have a look at the following: (1) For Latin, Luke Ranieri and Carla Hurt's channels (e.g., Scorpio Martianus, polýMATHY, Found in Antiquity, etc) for reading plans and comprehensible input. (2) For Greek, three things: a. Audio-Visual Comprehensible Input (Alpha with Angela and Ancient Greek in Action) b. The Ranieri-Roberts Approach to Ancient Greek, specifically regarding its spreadsheet for extensive reading (plus other readers from Rouse, such as his Lucius' Dialogues) c. The Polis Institute's materials (Εν, Δυο, Τρια and its Speaking Ancient Greek as a Living Language book. For both Latin and Greek, adopting Luke Ranieri's 7-Step Re-Reading Technique for working through the books.
@@StephenHarrisJr those are good. Carla has a vergil reader out. But i feel like the most overlooked and hidden gem is Legentibus-if you’re into the whole comprehensible input-thing. There you have all the 19th centrury Latin readers, lots of beginner stories, familia romana and literature with latin audio. Very little poetry though.
@bilingualsteps , that's a perfectly legitimate suggestion that I forgot to include. The resources on that site are truly exceptional for Latin learners, but it does require a subscription and working with digital e-reader technology, which learners who prefer to work with physical books may not prefer. Even so, an argument to be made in its favor is the rich abundance of audio material that is extremely well pronounced and that is absolutely ideal for beginners who need something to model for their pronunciation. Of course, one could retort, however, that the existing and freely available Latin audio that Luke has produced on his channel would also be adequate for addressing that problem.
@ProfASAr yes, but in my opinion, that would also include other learned languages that are affected by daily spontaneous usage, i.e., nuanced differences over time. But who am I: not a linguistic, not a historian. I haven't studied either since the 70s and early 80s. I want to pick up Latin again. I love your channel.
“Frozen” implies inertness. Latin and Ancient Greek have been actively used continuously for the last two millennia. Latin and Greek are still the two sources primarily used for the creation of new vocabulary in most languages (due in large part to scientific convention when it comes to naming new discoveries) and both have been used liturgically without any sort of interruption whatsoever (Latin in Catholicism and Koine Greek in east orthodox traditions)
@@Glassandcandy Which is my logic for avoiding the use of "dead". So, what is your suggestion? How should these languages be referred to in a way that appreciates their vitality without being infected by whimsical linguistical trends?
@@Run.Ran.Run1 the accepted terminology used by most historians and linguists concerned about this kind of semantic issue is “classical languages” It neither implies inertness nor the existence of a living native community of speakers. It suggests a language of continued cultural/historical purpose but that is largely belonging to an associated with a time in the past (in this case the period of antiquity).
Been learning both for five years and counting. Will be watching this to the end even though I'm commenting, first. Luke Ranieri is probably the best person alive promoting not only historical Classical Attic or variants of Hellenistic or Koine pronunciation for Ancient Greek, but also how to teach oneself Ancient Greek as an autodidact with the books and methodology that he recommends. See one of his two channels, polyMathy. His other channel is Scorpio Martianus, which is entirely in spoken Latin.
They are both extremely underrated, and as a native Portuguese speaker, I probably learned more about the intricacies of my own language by studying Latin than with anything else. That said, I wish they weren’t so literature centered, as I can’t imagine someone having a good time learning them without having a strong interest in Ancient Greek or Latin literature.
Very nice. What I think is key is that you have really got to make the effort to think how that target language would express something. It really doesn't matter if you get the nuts and bolts wrong , that you can correct, but the ventriloquist bit is key.
Very much agreed on all points, I too prefer concurrent learning. And as for a connection - the thing that first got me into Latin were the songs. Songs do wonders for enamoring me with languages
I've been learning Latin over the past year, and I've learned more about English grammar than my undergrad English class (a low bar.) If you like intellectual stimulation and want to spend time around some really smart, well-educated (not well-indocrinated) people, learn some Latin.
Yes, when comparing Modern Greek to Ancient, Koine Greek is definitely the closest to modern, followed by Attic, of course. Even a reconstructed pronunciation from, say, Palestinian Koine or Late Roman Koine Greek is quite close to Modern pronunciation.
Join my virtual academy and meet with me every week to get a systematic theoretical framework for long-term language learning in the Path of the Polyglot: www.alexanderarguelles.com/academy/ Join also to read and discuss French, German, Italian, and/or Spanish literature, to learn sacred languages such as Arabic, Sanskrit, Greek, or Old Norse, to develop conversational abilities in Latin, and/or to read and discuss Great Books of Western Civilization in English. And subscribe to my monthly newsletter at: www.alexanderarguelles.com/newsletter/
Hello everyone - a long interview with me was just released on a new podcast if you might care to have a listen: th-cam.com/video/xZYDShZjKGk/w-d-xo.html
I have learned Ancient Greek by learning to speak it at the Polis Institute in Jerusalem. It has given me a very good foundation. Now I am deepening my knowledge with more traditional textbooks, aimed at a more literary register. The combination of both approaches is very powerful. I realized I had intuitions when reading the text that even well (but traditionally) trained philologist friends lack.
That's so cool. Good work!
The Professor is back and is stronger than ever. How fortunate he also found such an eloquent interviewer. Ceasslessly entertaining and deeply informative at the same time. Professor's language prowess shines through as he answers every question. Your latest videos are really scratching my polyitis, even though I still struggle with German and am putting off Latin and French in fear of spreading myself too thin.
Much success to all fellow language learners!
For interested Latin and Greek learners, have a look at the following:
(1) For Latin, Luke Ranieri and Carla Hurt's channels (e.g., Scorpio Martianus, polýMATHY, Found in Antiquity, etc) for reading plans and comprehensible input.
(2) For Greek, three things:
a. Audio-Visual Comprehensible Input (Alpha with Angela and Ancient Greek in Action)
b. The Ranieri-Roberts Approach to Ancient Greek, specifically regarding its spreadsheet for extensive reading (plus other readers from Rouse, such as his Lucius' Dialogues)
c. The Polis Institute's materials (Εν, Δυο, Τρια and its Speaking Ancient Greek as a Living Language book.
For both Latin and Greek, adopting Luke Ranieri's 7-Step Re-Reading Technique for working through the books.
Someone else gets it!!! Excellent recommendations.
Thank you for pointing people to these sources.
@@StephenHarrisJr those are good. Carla has a vergil reader out.
But i feel like the most overlooked and hidden gem is Legentibus-if you’re into the whole comprehensible input-thing. There you have all the 19th centrury Latin readers, lots of beginner stories, familia romana and literature with latin audio. Very little poetry though.
@bilingualsteps , that's a perfectly legitimate suggestion that I forgot to include. The resources on that site are truly exceptional for Latin learners, but it does require a subscription and working with digital e-reader technology, which learners who prefer to work with physical books may not prefer. Even so, an argument to be made in its favor is the rich abundance of audio material that is extremely well pronounced and that is absolutely ideal for beginners who need something to model for their pronunciation. Of course, one could retort, however, that the existing and freely available Latin audio that Luke has produced on his channel would also be adequate for addressing that problem.
I prefer to call them frozen languages rather than dead. For me they still live. Static languages is probably the best though.
I have personally have always preferred the term "learned" languages.
@ProfASAr yes, but in my opinion, that would also include other learned languages that are affected by daily spontaneous usage, i.e., nuanced differences over time. But who am I: not a linguistic, not a historian.
I haven't studied either since the 70s and early 80s. I want to pick up Latin again.
I love your channel.
“Frozen” implies inertness. Latin and Ancient Greek have been actively used continuously for the last two millennia. Latin and Greek are still the two sources primarily used for the creation of new vocabulary in most languages (due in large part to scientific convention when it comes to naming new discoveries) and both have been used liturgically without any sort of interruption whatsoever (Latin in Catholicism and Koine Greek in east orthodox traditions)
@@Glassandcandy Which is my logic for avoiding the use of "dead". So, what is your suggestion? How should these languages be referred to in a way that appreciates their vitality without being infected by whimsical linguistical trends?
@@Run.Ran.Run1 the accepted terminology used by most historians and linguists concerned about this kind of semantic issue is “classical languages”
It neither implies inertness nor the existence of a living native community of speakers. It suggests a language of continued cultural/historical purpose but that is largely belonging to an associated with a time in the past (in this case the period of antiquity).
Been learning both for five years and counting. Will be watching this to the end even though I'm commenting, first.
Luke Ranieri is probably the best person alive promoting not only historical Classical Attic or variants of Hellenistic or Koine pronunciation for Ancient Greek, but also how to teach oneself Ancient Greek as an autodidact with the books and methodology that he recommends. See one of his two channels, polyMathy. His other channel is Scorpio Martianus, which is entirely in spoken Latin.
Thank you for providing these recommendations.
They are both extremely underrated, and as a native Portuguese speaker, I probably learned more about the intricacies of my own language by studying Latin than with anything else. That said, I wish they weren’t so literature centered, as I can’t imagine someone having a good time learning them without having a strong interest in Ancient Greek or Latin literature.
Actually it is possible to focus on Ecclesiastical, spoken, and medieval / Renaissance Latin as well as upon Greek from more modern times.
there were some Asterix comics published in Latin, but yeah it would be useful with some more media, maybe some fandubs or something like that...
Very nice. What I think is key is that you have really got to make the effort to think how that target language would express something. It really doesn't matter if you get the nuts and bolts wrong , that you can correct, but the ventriloquist bit is key.
Thank you for the kind words of appreciation.
Very much agreed on all points, I too prefer concurrent learning. And as for a connection - the thing that first got me into Latin were the songs. Songs do wonders for enamoring me with languages
Please sing us one at the next polyglot conversation, Yan!
@@ProfASAr Will do!
I've been learning Latin over the past year, and I've learned more about English grammar than my undergrad English class (a low bar.) If you like intellectual stimulation and want to spend time around some really smart, well-educated (not well-indocrinated) people, learn some Latin.
Thank you for sharing your experience with Latin!
Informational! Watching from the Philippines!
Thank you!
wow this is a sign, thanks!
You are very welcome.
Yes, when comparing Modern Greek to Ancient, Koine Greek is definitely the closest to modern, followed by Attic, of course. Even a reconstructed pronunciation from, say, Palestinian Koine or Late Roman Koine Greek is quite close to Modern pronunciation.
thanks a lot
You are very welcome.
Via discendi longa est, sed non sine praemio sui.
Gratias tibi ago.
To think the amount of latin that cat knows