indeed, I thought this was such a typical predictable moralistic political-correct speech about beauty and that's so wrong to focus on the outside..but even worse: this was about nothing.
"I still didn't have any concrete idea what this project meant. I couldn't spot any consistencies or patterns regardless of where the photo editor was from." The answer is obvious if you don't have confirmation bias. The concept of "beauty standards" is a social construct. Individuals have individual tastes and ideas of what is or isn't beautiful. Everyone doesn't get updated on patch Tuesday to the new beauty protocol.
Bullshit. Beauty is not a social constract. What is beauty? It means good genes, good health, generaly - good DNA for reproducing. This means more sex appeal, because nature wants to keep only the best genes to stay in the gene pool, that's why it gives good looks for healthy people. And it's always obvious who is the most healthy, it's the beautiful units. So stop with this SJW bs of everything being social constructs. Social constructs don't tell genes how to work.
Lordani66 Sex appeal is not the same for everyone either. It is not just strong genes that attract, it is rather the genes that are best compatible with yours (in terms of getting a strong gene package for reproduction). Beauty is far from a universal thing! Also finding something beautiful doesn't necessarily mean the same as finding something attractive, in the sense of sex appeal and wanting to reproduce...
Maria Van Der Linden One problem with your statement - it doesn't have to do anything with this topic. He clearly said "beauty is a social construct", nothing about attractivenes was mentioned. And yes, beautiful people are most likely to be the healties (and vice versa), and thus have the best genes. It's a biological fact, no one "came up" with a "social construct" of beauty and suddenly those people considered as beautiful magically got good genes. I am ugly for example and have terrible health too. It always goes together. Everyone saying otherwise is a butthurt liberal SJW.
Michael Ma probably because she is a journalist and most journalists' dream carrer is to be read by a lot of people (opportunity that buzzfeed could have got her)
I KNOW RIGHT. Flippin 12 minutes of useless meaningless talk. At least she should have made a POINT. All she talked about was her project and how it went viral and how people misused it. Like what are you trying to say, what message are you trying to give people?
You know..complaining doesnt change the fact that YOU chose to watch it all trough even though YOU had the FREE choice of CLOSING IT DOWN UGH. And yes this comment is also complaining and wont change your comment or everyone who liked it.
Lexi Florens Lexi Florens True it doesn't change the fact that we chose to watch it. But it MIGHT change what we're complaining ABOUT. Which is Tedx Talks making pointless talks. Complaining is good for both parties, the viewers and the producers. We're giving them valuable feedback to make their show more better/popular etc. And we'll get what we want hopefully, which is quality content. No harm in trying eh? 😁
thats the problem she is talking about here. Not everyone thinks they are beautiful until they accept that they are. I agree, she is very beautiful, but not all pretty women see themselves the way others do. Hence the "make me beautiful" project.
I think the point of the video was there is no definite answer on what beauty is. Although, it seems to be an enormous goal in our society. Young girls starve themselves to be "beautiful", people wear makeup to be "beautiful" and it's dangerous. How do they know what beauty is when there is no definition of it? They're going after something that simply doesn't exist. The experiment this girl did emphasized that exact point. When asked to photoshop this girls face to make her beautiful, these countries sent out a variety of images which displays the significance in this project. I guess the bottom line wrapped up in a cliché is beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
She played a game of dress up It went viral She got flattered Tried to give it more depth than it actually had And ended up wasting so many resources for absolutely nothing .
See thats where youre getting confused. She ASKED Buzzfeed to publish her Before and After project. She did not consent to being used as clickbait. There is a huge difference
Ziana Benton I took it mostly as a joke... but , apparently, Buzzfeed isn't known for compassion of its employees... (if you work for/with Buzzfeed, don't expect your wants to be a priority...)
+Thou Art That She has almost perfect facial symmetry, which studies have proven that people generally find more attractive. I say almost perfect; her eyes are a little too inset and her ears are a little too high.
+Thou Art That She's not embarrassed because in so many countries, to so many people, she isn't beautiful enough (made very evident by everyone editing her photo rather than just sending her untouched photo back.) I think she's gorgeous but the standard that we hold women to around the world is admittedly rather unrealistic. i think she's just trying to create a dialogue about it.
You complain that no one got your message, but I'm not sure you have communicated one. You didn't seem to have any interpretation. I know what I think, I watched this video for what your perspective of beauty was. I'm glad you got the attention for a worthwhile experiment, but that's not what the title suggests this video is about. Good ideas, but this was lacking depth in my opinion.
I feel what her experiment did was showcase different things to different people. Maybe like how beauty looks different to everyone. Looks different in countries. Maybe that looks don't matter. The message could be interpreted different ways. But she didn't really know exactly how to . Say it? Idk the video seemed sort of lopsided BC she was first talking about beauty and photo editing and then to people using her face. I'm not sure what to think of it... Then about social media...? She didn't really explain her point but in a way you leave the video getting the idea anyways :3
I completely agree. It just feels a shame that she spent over hundreds of dollars on an experiment with no percieved goal, and no real outcome. I thought the talk was interesting, and an idea worth conversing about, but I don't believe the title of the video described an accurate representation of the talk at all, which, I feel, is kind of ironic.
What does it mean to be beautiful? It means that you love yourself and you accept who you are and what you are regardless of the critiques and criticisms. I believe that's what true beauty is. People may say "your ugly". but if you know within yourself, that you are a blessing in this world, that you have a purpose, that you are meant to be here then thats true beauty. Therefore, beauty reflects the way your define beauty. EVERYBODY is beautiful in their own way, no one is ugly. Social media and the world created this standard of beauty that you should have a nice figure, that your sexy, that you should have no pimples or other "defects" or "imperfection". The thing is, no one is perfect. Every body has a flaws. to get over this reaction of whose beautiful and who is not, we should instead respect each others differences, and make the best out of everything that we have. :) you!, YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL. ;)
beautiful people get away with having mediocre ideas, like this young, thin, attractive girl. They also can use the word "your" wrong all day long and a guy won't care at all
This is what I post up top. So Jerry what is this TEDx talk going to be about ? Nothing. Nothing? Yes nothing. It will be a sociological experiment on nothing.
Really not. Almost all people can agree on beautiful individuals, even if they are not your particular preference. Very few people would argue that Taylor Swift, or Selena Hayek, Gigi Hadid, Karolina Kurkova, Eiza Gonzalez or Lupita Nyongo are not unusually attractive people. Everyone might put them in different order of attractiveness, but very few indeed would fail to admit that they are well above average in the looks department.
1) She could have submitted the picture to Reddit, where they would have done the work for free. 2) Buzzfeed will print anything. 3) There are some terrible Photoshop(if they really used PS) users(who probably all stole the app.) 4) This seems like an insecure, shallow girl's attempt to gain compliments or attention for superficial reasons. 5) She's beautiful, her friend is not; so it isn't that same 'experiment'. 6) Why would those other 'before and afters' be considered plagiarism if it's an unoriginal concept? 7) This talk was completely pointless. 8) If I were to alter the photo, I would have just put clothes on her.
the point was that even if she already is beautiful, people from different cultures still change things they think are "wrong" or "not beautiful" so it's pointless to think there's a universal beauty or something we all should change about ourselves to get appraised
jay sullivan i agree with all of what you said except for 4. she doesn't seem insecure. she rather wants to present her story, eventually show people that she is a good journalist (and she seems to be) or to let people know the truth behind her insanely popular project with (for most people) unknown origins. if i did what she did, i would probably also feel like i need to explain people what happened because the internet really disfigures everything and that was, after all, her project and her face everywhere in the world and even ilegally used in advertisements.
thats the only thing that kept me watching it... shes young, petite, stylish, and has a great ass. And a very photogenic face. I didnt spend mch time listening.
In fact there is one very important point though. If you step back and watch it from the side, you'll see that beautiful people has a slight touch of that narcissism that blinds their cognitive functions and let them do more intuitive things...and sometimes it makes sense. I was almost 20 when i suddenly realised that people tend to tolerate my ideas more likely and that was because they liked me. Multiply that by 100 in this lady's case. Years will go by and everything she'll be left with would be her knowledge and experience. And here we are at the point of that speech: *If you are beautiful - don't stop learning.*
The point of the video is that "TEDx Talks" has a gorgeous girl talking about beauty as "if she doesn't know what it is." In truth we all know. If you go to the most obscure African tribe, or an Amazon jungle tribe, and pick out the most beautiful girl in the tribe...the tribe members will agree with you about the choice you made. Yes, there are cultural differences with things that make ear lobes long, or a lip stretch out...but if you pick out a young beautiful tribal girl before those "cultural enhancements" are added the tribal members are likely to agree that yes, you found the most beautiful young girl in the tribe. It's not rocket science, it's just an innate ability to appreciate beauty.
yes and hopes someone sends back the image as it is and says....you are pretty JUST the way you are.....yaaaawn....and "just being curious" created a viral thing that brings out her name and shows again, superficial "beauty" helps-..
if I was a professional photo editor and she sent me her photo, I would've sent it back to her and just adjusted the lighting a bit. this person is BEAUTIFUL
Saw that article years ago and thought that girl was beautiful. Now seeing the actual person, she is tenfolds more beautiful than that picture of her face. This girl is flawless.
Idk if it's just me but this talk seemed extremely empty? Like she never really made a point. She talked a lot without saying much. There wasn't a clear purpose in her "project" and she never made a clear point during her speech.
u saved me 8minutes of my life resuming the concept of the clip in one phrase .. And I must say that this concept was already known and said many times .... Thank you!
Ok but when she's asked what her project means she doesn't know the answer, but then when it became a viral thing people 'completely missed her point'? I thought it didn't have a point to begin with?
She should have said "beauty is an evolving social concept and the beauty of it is that every culture has their own perspective of beauty. This is what makes us different yet the same"
+SONE Tsu It hasn't but there are facts you can work with and make your own point. Sometimes facts are more valuable. Journalists make facts, they don't make points - that's their job. As for the point I came up with - that you can do some pretty much random action out of curiosity and get unexpected success. And you should keep trying a lot, and at some moment the idea will be successful.
+Александр Улитин (HungrySitesRu) then my point is still right. N yours is too you just tried to get a point out of the video but to me all she appeared to talk about is how they take her pics with no permission n how she has fans 😂
the point is there is no definition for beauty, it's your thoughts who decide what beauty means,so you just gotta except yourself ( your skin color, your body shape, your teeth color) literally everything you're not satisfied with. good point!!!!
From what I learned in art class makes me ok with her not having a reason behind her work because as my art teacher told us, not ever artist know the reason/interpretation behind there work. Which is OK. It's like an open ended question which generates conversation. Which to me is AMAZING.
Whine whine whine.. I'm so pretty and slim by the beauty industry standards and classically. So for a hoot I played make over dolly online and am now famous for talking about nothing new at all... It'd be great to see an unusual or typically unattractive person. And what do we really learn? Oh, different cultures have different ideas of beauty. I never knew that. (sarcastic). Why feed into the self obsession and Narcissistic "look at me, look at me". What about real stuff, not fluff?
+Autumn Summers She's been conditioned by her oppressors to frame every declarative statement as an interrogative, as if she's asking permission to speak.
I think you have a very beautiful face. It is symmetrical ,with a nice straight nose and pretty colored skin. As a mom I would tell you that beauty is more ten skin deep. At school age children mock each other about differences. Often beautiful looking people are ugly and mean and hellish. While ugly looking people are kind and forgiving and helpful. Clothes,makeup and age spots pass away . What will people remember about you that was really beautiful?
What a bunch of self aggrandizing bullshit.. She spoke more about how positively this "project" effected her life than what the project was actually about, which she didn't even know herself..
It is hard to be pretty, if people think you are shallow, because you are beautiful - even if you are meaningful and deep. But if you loose your beauty people think of the same positive attitude as something deep. Still, I did not take much from this presentation but my own interpretation of it: everyone has their own standard of beauty and you can't please them. So stay who you are, accept your face, how it is, do not let others tell you how to look like. But well... that is not what she said. She maybe seems very self focused, but maybe she never learned differently, that it is not much worth, to be self focused - but people just praise beauty - so it gets easy to bath in compliments and self worth, if people treat you well. But it is even harder to know, people treat you that way because you are beautiful and others hate you, because you are beautiful and try to see every happiness of yours as an aspect of your beauty - and do not acknowledge all the pain that is behind it and all the hard work someone did.
I agree that this was very difficult to watch and I'm disappointed that this was a TedX talk. Why, Vancouver? I understand that exploring what beauty means to different cultures is interesting, I also understand that a bias exists towards those that are beautiful. I think I would have preferred to listen to something about how beautiful people can use that bias for the greater good, or even a video on how to bring beautiful people back down to earth so that they can learn inner-beauty, if they haven't already. Just...something productive. This video is so superficial, and Esther was devoid of intention or meaning. Unfortunately, this seems to be another case of a beautiful person being given something because they are beautiful. This whole thing was a massive contradiction to the question of, "What does it mean to be beautiful?" We all know the answer of that for you Esther, at least in this case. Please keep researching this for yourself. I am actually wondering if TedX just used Esther to present a message they find important. Why do beautiful people get away with this kind of nonsense? Perhaps TedX wanted to cause awareness and show that not all viral information is worthwhile and gave this woman as an example. Am I digging deep trying to understand the purpose of this? Maybe.
It's not about beauty its about the perception of beauty. Every individual has their own conception of beauty. It's clear just from how each nationality percieved her as beautiful and individually molded her into their own intimate concept of what is the perfect woman to them.
YES! Thank you for letting go control over the project. Letting people expand on it freely was cool. It can be mean, rude or inconsiderate and unprofitable but it does enrich our culture.
Her Original picture was the most beautiful, it shows your most beautiful self is how you view yourself even if you are conscious or unconscious of your own beauty. People will only define your beauty based on their perception but their perception is just 15% of how beautiful you are as person.
Not really understanding the message here. You could take any woman and make her "more beautiful." The editors were just doing what she asked, based on their own ideas of beauty...and so...?
Lara Not to say this video is good but... I think actually, you will find that the worst ted talk ever is the one titled something like “punk Inuit throat singing” Give it a go!!! Hahaha
I know she repeatedly said she intended to ask questions not give answers, but it is strange that after all this exposure and interviews she couldn't research the topic to give answers.. With this project she could've interviewed so many people "anthropologist" "plastic surgeons, etc and made it huge.
"I wanted editors worldwide to feed my ego, so I willfuly turned my face into clickbait. After a whole month of spam and first world problems, I got myself into this mess again, but this time at the expense of others. What I learned about beauty is that I dunno and it's just up to whoever". dreadful.
You are a beautiful person, in a beautiful body, with a beautiful face and an intelligent, questioning mind. Your project simply proves that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
this question/conversation has close ties to the question "what is art". beauty and art are relative to the perspective of the spectator. it is common (and acceptable) for an artist or a thinker to present an audience with an unanswered question. the point or the answer isn't in the question, but in the collective conversation that occurs amongst the spectators. each individual will either arrive at their own conclusion or their own follow up question. that IS the point. personally, I walk away with the belief that I am beautiful. maybe not to everyone. on many days, not even to myself. but knowing that beauty depends on the perspective of the spectator and is limited by such tells me that in terms of absolute truth, I am beautiful.
The big treasure in human beings is he smart his discipline his ambition generosity kindness helps big generosity help others suffering for others have pain for others play etc etc etc
Is anybody else tired of many western women's obsession with appearances & beauty? Everything seems to revolve around their appearance, make-up, hairstyles, shoes, dresses, handbags, etc. Too many western women have become incredibly self-absorbed & narcissistic...... It's dysfunctional.
I don't think that it is just the western women. Don't get me wrong i fully agree with you. But women always think they have to be beautiful because they are always told to be beautiful.
+ShynAwkward This *abnormal* obsession with appearances is almost entirely due to social media and GREAT advertising/marketing has enabled these ideologies of beauty to continue to get passed down. It's really sad to see how the definition of beauty has become equated to superficial perfection.
+Voerti I don't believe that it is just social media that affects women. For example the Chinese had a lot of almost impossible beauty standards way before social media. I believe that it comes from the belief that women have to look presentable to men so she has to have a small waist or small feet etc. It is weird that even at this age women think they have to be "beautiful" at all possible times.
davidd854 cat person I agree with both of you! Biologically we are configured to be attracted to symmetry and youthfulness. Social media and marketing are not the cause, but they perpetuate the ideas and sell them in a much more effective way than we've seen in the past. It's moved beyond makeup into clothing, belongings, and entire lifestyles. In the past it was just a small thing, but now people spend hours of their time trying to aim for perfection and companies make billions. Standards of beauty have existed for ages, but now it's become more than an idea...it something that feels mandatory to us since these ideas literally follow us everywhere!
young lady you are beautiful the way you are yourself. Your quest was the result of your search for the truth. You already gave the right answer in your monologue. The key words are :"thought provocation" "global conversation" "around what we think about and experience every day" and what it really means????It means that many people do not like who or what they are and they think they can be other people: you wee a part of a public domain before you did the project and that it is why you did it. You are very pretty and very smart and many people would like to be like you. And their thoughts get to you . And that was your exemplification of the truth. And what beauty really means?????Beauty is a normal healthy human being , being himself or herself at his or her full potential in natural circumstances.
O que os telespectadores daqui desse site não entenderam é que ela basicamente fala da cultura do "padrão de beleza" enraizado pela sociedade em cada um dos paises. Podemos perceber que a aparecia dela muda drasticamente de acordo com o pais em que a edição foi feita. No mais, o trabalho dela serviu para uma reflexão simples sobre a estética, padrões de beleza impostos por cada uma dessas culturas de forma que consigamos entender que todos seguem o seu próprio padrão, independente do que é definido pela sua cultura ou não. Obrigado pela atenção e espero que alguém tenha compreendido minha interpretação.
so at first she says she didn't know what the project meant and then she shows that she got not satisfied with how people started to interpret it, because she didn't manage to make anything out of this. like someone could be wrong. phhh. stupid thought that actually is not worth to spread
I found that you, the you who was animated and expressive, and speaking -- showing moments of the WHO that is YOU -- those were actually the most beautiful images of you. I mean that in a literal, aesthetic sense, as well as the more abstract "what's inside that counts" way. All of the still images, edited and your original, paled in comparison to seeing YOU coming alive. :)
How did this even get to be a project? And does anyone seriously believe this video has 'sparked a global conversation on beauty ideals'? It's as if she thought the only thoughts/commentary on beauty in the history of the world are what she herself has experienced. A millenial-only perspective on such a historically rich subject is bound to be boring.
What I found from her experiment was, 'beauty' or 'the thing people want to see it' are totally different based on where they are from. If you try to change the way you look even, there's always inadequate for everyone. So, be you.
You know, both Lizzie Velasquez and Robert Hodge's Ted Talks are being recommended on the side of my screen right now. And if they're showing on yours, I highly recommend listening to them on the subject of beauty. You'll gain some true insights instead of just a very pretty lady babbling.
Real enlightening listening to an attractive woman talk about international beauty standards. It became MORE shallow? Only as a biracial less attractive woman no one picks it up and this is the first time you've ever seen the other iterations. It's so cool to be pretty.
This was surprisingly unenlightening. She complained that people were taking the project and deciding what it meant without considering what she thought, but she herself didn't really know what it was about. Repeatedly asking questions is all well and good but eventually you have to start formulating some sort of answer.
She talks a lot more about her success, her project and how she became famous rather what does being beautiful means.
Makes you wonder how much substance is really in her project. Her crappy project.
+Patrick Edwards Well i don't think her project is that bad, but the way she presents it makes it sound bad.
I noticed that as well
Chris Athanasiadis I don't think she knows herself. I think she's just presenting a topic, not a perspective. The video was probably poorly named.
Chris Athanasiadis of a
she's beautiful without the editing
like my channel
MARILYN MONROE ?
She knows - that's what she's saying.
+jad
I agree.. she absolutely is
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Novela
"They completely missed my point" she says.. after saying she had no point
exactly!
indeed, I thought this was such a typical predictable moralistic political-correct speech about beauty and that's so wrong to focus on the outside..but even worse: this was about nothing.
@@monicahodgekins6785 I said the comment before watching the comment... And when I did, I said what you replied.🤣😅
@@kalakritistudios Nice 😂
I thought she was actually going to delve deeply into this topic and say something worth thinking about. I was disappointed.
Lemmie narrow it down to 4 words
"beauty is in everyone "
Perfumaphilia same
Me too :(
Me three :(((
@@SilentAttackTV that's skin deep.True beauty is beyond that.
She received a TED talk only to say she has nothing to say. Great.
"I still didn't have any concrete idea what this project meant. I couldn't spot any consistencies or patterns regardless of where the photo editor was from."
The answer is obvious if you don't have confirmation bias. The concept of "beauty standards" is a social construct. Individuals have individual tastes and ideas of what is or isn't beautiful. Everyone doesn't get updated on patch Tuesday to the new beauty protocol.
+a7i20ci7y To be fair they are all very symetrical
+Strange Charm Protocol 1.0, the one we were born with.
Bullshit. Beauty is not a social constract. What is beauty? It means good genes, good health, generaly - good DNA for reproducing. This means more sex appeal, because nature wants to keep only the best genes to stay in the gene pool, that's why it gives good looks for healthy people. And it's always obvious who is the most healthy, it's the beautiful units. So stop with this SJW bs of everything being social constructs. Social constructs don't tell genes how to work.
Lordani66 Sex appeal is not the same for everyone either. It is not just strong genes that attract, it is rather the genes that are best compatible with yours (in terms of getting a strong gene package for reproduction). Beauty is far from a universal thing! Also finding something beautiful doesn't necessarily mean the same as finding something attractive, in the sense of sex appeal and wanting to reproduce...
Maria Van Der Linden
One problem with your statement - it doesn't have to do anything with this topic. He clearly said "beauty is a social construct", nothing about attractivenes was mentioned. And yes, beautiful people are most likely to be the healties (and vice versa), and thus have the best genes. It's a biological fact, no one "came up" with a "social construct" of beauty and suddenly those people considered as beautiful magically got good genes. I am ugly for example and have terrible health too. It always goes together. Everyone saying otherwise is a butthurt liberal SJW.
What was the idea that was worth sharing here?
who cares, she's beautiful and can pretend to sound smart
LOL. @Mapezaid
Ram Iyer this is how I feel about so many TedTalks. They’re half baked stream of conscious ramblings.
@@jamilabrownie nice phrasing
Sukruti Savukar Thanks! I might have to recycle that one day🙃
"look at me i'm awesome and beautiful and smart and I like to be humble"
Really? You couldn't gather from the project that different cultures have different standards of beauty? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Same
But that's not actually that simple
yeah, but she herself said (5:06 - 5:10) that her project is not about that.
Women are status symbols for you boys.
This video is her giving herself a pat on the back
man some of these photoshop artist totaly scammed her lmao
the real question is why she was proud of getting published by buzzfeed
Michael Ma probably because she is a journalist and most journalists' dream carrer is to be read by a lot of people (opportunity that buzzfeed could have got her)
buzzfeed is pretty much the equivalent of cancer
Michael Ma the
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Michael Ma
I will never get back these 12 minutes of emptiness.
you're rude
I KNOW RIGHT. Flippin 12 minutes of useless meaningless talk. At least she should have made a POINT. All she talked about was her project and how it went viral and how people misused it. Like what are you trying to say, what message are you trying to give people?
You know..complaining doesnt change the fact that YOU chose to watch it all trough even though YOU had the FREE choice of CLOSING IT DOWN UGH. And yes this comment is also complaining and wont change your comment or everyone who liked it.
Lexi Florens Lexi Florens True it doesn't change the fact that we chose to watch it. But it MIGHT change what we're complaining ABOUT. Which is Tedx Talks making pointless talks. Complaining is good for both parties, the viewers and the producers. We're giving them valuable feedback to make their show more better/popular etc. And we'll get what we want hopefully, which is quality content.
No harm in trying eh? 😁
everyone is being weird
just when i think she's going in one direction and actually expanding on an idea, she just starts talking about something else.
"Make me beautiful" says an incredibly, uncompromisingly beautiful girl lmao something is wrong here.
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thats the problem she is talking about here. Not everyone thinks they are beautiful until they accept that they are. I agree, she is very beautiful, but not all pretty women see themselves the way others do. Hence the "make me beautiful" project.
Well, lets face it. Not everyone is beautiful. I'm sure as hell not lol
"Let's face it" pun intended?
I woulda sent back the original photo and asked if that was a sick joke.
She has a pretty face, that's all I got from this video.
one of the worst talks of TED....i was waiting for a punchline the whole time
Fuad Hossain yes
The only TEDx presentation I learned nothing from. A complete waste of time.
So Jerry what is this TEDx talk going to be about ? Nothing. Nothing? Yes nothing. It will be a sociological experiment on nothing.
I think the point of the video was there is no definite answer on what beauty is. Although, it seems to be an enormous goal in our society. Young girls starve themselves to be "beautiful", people wear makeup to be "beautiful" and it's dangerous. How do they know what beauty is when there is no definition of it? They're going after something that simply doesn't exist. The experiment this girl did emphasized that exact point. When asked to photoshop this girls face to make her beautiful, these countries sent out a variety of images which displays the significance in this project. I guess the bottom line wrapped up in a cliché is beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I feel like she was just talking about herself the entire time and didn't contribute anything significant to the presentation title.
Sophia nailed it
she didn't make this point but really it's how much of a ripple effect an idea can have - it's insane the journey her experiment took
She played a game of dress up
It went viral
She got flattered
Tried to give it more depth than it actually had
And ended up wasting so many resources for absolutely nothing .
Publishes on Buzzfeed. Complains about beeeing used as clickbait. : /
+Strange Charm
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Yeah and when she complained about people not interpreting it how she wanted (which she never clarified) annoyed me a bit
See thats where youre getting confused. She ASKED Buzzfeed to publish her Before and After project. She did not consent to being used as clickbait. There is a huge difference
Ziana Benton I took it mostly as a joke... but , apparently, Buzzfeed isn't known for compassion of its employees... (if you work for/with Buzzfeed, don't expect your wants to be a priority...)
she asks the question 'What does it mean to be beautiful?'...and she happens to be ....beautiful
I'd have thought she might be a little embarrassed.
*****
it is surprising ...
one has to wonder if she was disfigured or had medical issues if she'd be allowed to speak... or even come close to the same opinions. lol.
+Thou Art That Nah she is average relative to her race.
+Thou Art That She has almost perfect facial symmetry, which studies have proven that people generally find more attractive. I say almost perfect; her eyes are a little too inset and her ears are a little too high.
+Thou Art That She's not embarrassed because in so many countries, to so many people, she isn't beautiful enough (made very evident by everyone editing her photo rather than just sending her untouched photo back.) I think she's gorgeous but the standard that we hold women to around the world is admittedly rather unrealistic. i think she's just trying to create a dialogue about it.
You complain that no one got your message, but I'm not sure you have communicated one. You didn't seem to have any interpretation. I know what I think, I watched this video for what your perspective of beauty was. I'm glad you got the attention for a worthwhile experiment, but that's not what the title suggests this video is about. Good ideas, but this was lacking depth in my opinion.
Penelope Reilly your comment is the most civilized and relevant here. Feel my appreciation, haha :D
Penelope Reilly
I feel what her experiment did was showcase different things to different people.
Maybe like how beauty looks different to everyone.
Looks different in countries.
Maybe that looks don't matter.
The message could be interpreted different ways.
But she didn't really know exactly how to
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Say it? Idk the video seemed sort of lopsided BC she was first talking about beauty and photo editing and then to people using her face. I'm not sure what to think of it...
Then about social media...?
She didn't really explain her point but in a way you leave the video getting the idea anyways :3
I completely agree. It just feels a shame that she spent over hundreds of dollars on an experiment with no percieved goal, and no real outcome. I thought the talk was interesting, and an idea worth conversing about, but I don't believe the title of the video described an accurate representation of the talk at all, which, I feel, is kind of ironic.
What does it mean to be beautiful? It means that you love yourself and you accept who you are and what you are regardless of the critiques and criticisms. I believe that's what true beauty is. People may say "your ugly". but if you know within yourself, that you are a blessing in this world, that you have a purpose, that you are meant to be here then thats true beauty. Therefore, beauty reflects the way your define beauty. EVERYBODY is beautiful in their own way, no one is ugly. Social media and the world created this standard of beauty that you should have a nice figure, that your sexy, that you should have no pimples or other "defects" or "imperfection". The thing is, no one is perfect. Every body has a flaws. to get over this reaction of whose beautiful and who is not, we should instead respect each others differences, and make the best out of everything that we have. :) you!, YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL. ;)
beautiful people get away with having mediocre ideas, like this young, thin, attractive girl. They also can use the word "your" wrong all day long and a guy won't care at all
Athena utter stupidity
Well said! Not everyone will get that though, too much narcissistic and superficial world.
Beautifully said ❤
"reduced to clickbait" - posts to buzzfeed. "my words are omitted" - freely admits her project has no purpose
Sooooo......????? What's the point?
This is what I post up top.
So Jerry what is this TEDx talk going to be about ? Nothing. Nothing? Yes nothing. It will be a sociological experiment on nothing.
Really not. Almost all people can agree on beautiful individuals, even if they are not your particular preference. Very few people would argue that Taylor Swift, or Selena Hayek, Gigi Hadid, Karolina Kurkova, Eiza Gonzalez or Lupita Nyongo are not unusually attractive people. Everyone might put them in different order of attractiveness, but very few indeed would fail to admit that they are well above average in the looks department.
Ana T Nothing. It iswaisting time 💔💔. There is no target! There is no new point. All what she said are known .
she's beautiful! obviously
other people will find her ugly, that's the point
I knooooooooow she did not basically complain about going viral this whole Ted Talk. I'm livid
I think she means here that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and that definition of beauty differs from one culture to another.
1) She could have submitted the picture to Reddit, where they would have done the work for free.
2) Buzzfeed will print anything.
3) There are some terrible Photoshop(if they really used PS) users(who probably all stole the app.)
4) This seems like an insecure, shallow girl's attempt to gain compliments or attention for superficial reasons.
5) She's beautiful, her friend is not; so it isn't that same 'experiment'.
6) Why would those other 'before and afters' be considered plagiarism if it's an unoriginal concept?
7) This talk was completely pointless.
8) If I were to alter the photo, I would have just put clothes on her.
Also, it's ironic that she seemed angry about people using her photo as 'clickbait' when it seems like her entire article must have been clickbait.
the point was that even if she already is beautiful, people from different cultures still change things they think are "wrong" or "not beautiful" so it's pointless to think there's a universal beauty or something we all should change about ourselves to get appraised
jay sullivan i agree with all of what you said except for 4. she doesn't seem insecure. she rather wants to present her story, eventually show people that she is a good journalist (and she seems to be) or to let people know the truth behind her insanely popular project with (for most people) unknown origins. if i did what she did, i would probably also feel like i need to explain people what happened because the internet really disfigures everything and that was, after all, her project and her face everywhere in the world and even ilegally used in advertisements.
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dude, if you weren't pretty i don't think anyone would let you do a 13 minute ted talk about absolutely nothing
thats the only thing that kept me watching it... shes young, petite, stylish, and has a great ass. And a very photogenic face. I didnt spend mch time listening.
" Beauty in the eyes of the beholder " is a perfect name for this project
Annie Mz so perfect
Suzie Park ik
The answer she got was 42
I get the reference
Lmao
Vereadores
I didn't get the reference.. please please please explain.
ask google the answer to life the universe and everything ;)
In fact there is one very important point though. If you step back and watch it from the side, you'll see that beautiful people has a slight touch of that narcissism that blinds their cognitive functions and let them do more intuitive things...and sometimes it makes sense. I was almost 20 when i suddenly realised that people tend to tolerate my ideas more likely and that was because they liked me. Multiply that by 100 in this lady's case. Years will go by and everything she'll be left with would be her knowledge and experience. And here we are at the point of that speech: *If you are beautiful - don't stop learning.*
Sam Mousa, totally true...Personally, I continued the speech just because she is damn beautiful. Wasn't even fully listening
Renat Khanzarov I didn’t get that from her, but your interpretation of the talk makes sense. I didn’t get that message FROM HER though.
let's consider this as my tiny contribution ) thank you Melissa.
I really thought this was a spoof TED talk. The part where she said she didn't know the point of her own project gave me a laugh
Interesting story, buuuttt it doesn't lead to anything
true
Maybe u didn't get it. In my opinion it's about respecting the different concept of beauty for Others. What do u think?
Tsering Zangmo So... That doesn prove she was actually talking about the topic at hand.
Roy Wardenaar it doesn’t have to?? Its Ted X lmao
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So girl, you were invited to inspire and motivate us, but you’re just telling the bored audience that you’re so beautiful. Like pulezzzeee!!
So... what does it mean to be beautiful??????
I found this so painful to watch.
don't be negative under this video, they will call you envious... thats why im holding on my self :D
luhole I'm agree.
luhole Good thing you're not forced to watch it again
luhole hu7
Why? I just want to know why, not trying to be rude or anything.
The point of the video is that "TEDx Talks" has a gorgeous girl talking about beauty as "if she doesn't know what it is." In truth we all know. If you go to the most obscure African tribe, or an Amazon jungle tribe, and pick out the most beautiful girl in the tribe...the tribe members will agree with you about the choice you made. Yes, there are cultural differences with things that make ear lobes long, or a lip stretch out...but if you pick out a young beautiful tribal girl before those "cultural enhancements" are added the tribal members are likely to agree that yes, you found the most beautiful young girl in the tribe. It's not rocket science, it's just an innate ability to appreciate beauty.
yes and hopes someone sends back the image as it is and says....you are pretty JUST the way you are.....yaaaawn....and "just being curious" created a viral thing that brings out her name and shows again, superficial "beauty" helps-..
"I'm hot and somehow still confused when people pay attention to me! lol"
jesus lady.
great synopsis of this
The lady is objectively attractive. But how brave of you to admit that she doesnt hold up to your standards of beauty. What are you trying to prove?
For some of you who missed her point: the standard of beauty is different for everyone.
if I was a professional photo editor and she sent me her photo, I would've sent it back to her and just adjusted the lighting a bit. this person is BEAUTIFUL
This chick knows she's beautiful. This was a bait ploy if you ask me
Adam Greene you don't get the point do you. Of course she knows she's beautiful. But thats part of her attitude and behaviour.
@@f.lashby8298 What
Sounds more like she wants confirmation that she is good looking, most hot women dont even consider themselves beautiful.
omg, her unedited picture is incredibly gorgeous!!
The point is "people are stupid for thinking shit won't go viral on the internet when giving shit to clickbait buzzfeed"
Saw that article years ago and thought that girl was beautiful. Now seeing the actual person, she is tenfolds more beautiful than that picture of her face. This girl is flawless.
Idk if it's just me but this talk seemed extremely empty? Like she never really made a point. She talked a lot without saying much. There wasn't a clear purpose in her "project" and she never made a clear point during her speech.
Reading the comments saved me at least 7 minutes of my life
so the only thing she got from this 'experiment' was that beauty is subjective....
u saved me 8minutes of my life resuming the concept of the clip in one phrase .. And I must say that this concept was already known and said many times .... Thank you!
But she still couldn't figure it out.
Ok but when she's asked what her project means she doesn't know the answer, but then when it became a viral thing people 'completely missed her point'? I thought it didn't have a point to begin with?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't really find their eyes beautiful.
@@Evija3000 lol
She should have said "beauty is an evolving social concept and the beauty of it is that every culture has their own perspective of beauty. This is what makes us different yet the same"
this video has no point!
+SONE Tsu why?
My exact thoughts.
+SONE Tsu It hasn't but there are facts you can work with and make your own point. Sometimes facts are more valuable. Journalists make facts, they don't make points - that's their job.
As for the point I came up with - that you can do some pretty much random action out of curiosity and get unexpected success. And you should keep trying a lot, and at some moment the idea will be successful.
+Влад Лесник. Why? you should answer that yourself. by answering what you got out of that video
+Александр Улитин (HungrySitesRu) then my point is still right. N yours is too you just tried to get a point out of the video but to me all she appeared to talk about is how they take her pics with no permission n how she has fans 😂
the point is there is no definition for beauty, it's your thoughts who decide what beauty means,so you just gotta except yourself ( your skin color, your body shape, your teeth color) literally everything you're not satisfied with.
good point!!!!
I want this 12 min back....
she is perfect without editing. high cheekbones, beautiful eyes and long legs.
From what I learned in art class makes me ok with her not having a reason behind her work because as my art teacher told us, not ever artist know the reason/interpretation behind there work. Which is OK. It's like an open ended question which generates conversation. Which to me is AMAZING.
We understand beauty a lot more than we understand things such as compassion, mercy, love or understanding.
Whine whine whine.. I'm so pretty and slim by the beauty industry standards and classically. So for a hoot I played make over dolly online and am now famous for talking about nothing new at all... It'd be great to see an unusual or typically unattractive person. And what do we really learn? Oh, different cultures have different ideas of beauty. I never knew that. (sarcastic). Why feed into the self obsession and Narcissistic "look at me, look at me". What about real stuff, not fluff?
PREACH 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Sadly but true, 'pretty' by the beauty standard talking about beauty, paradox. We live in a very narcissistic society.
Sounds like she's asking a question everytime she ends her sentences.
+Autumn Summers She's been conditioned by her oppressors to frame every declarative statement as an interrogative, as if she's asking permission to speak.
+a7i20ci7y I thought men were the oppressors :[
It's called "uptalk". There's nothing wrong with it.
That's how girls talk.
Nessie Andrew that's how some people talk, not just “girls” :)
she said she didn't know what the project meant, but then she said people missed her point.
I think you have a very beautiful face. It is symmetrical ,with a nice straight nose and pretty colored skin. As a mom I would tell you that beauty is more ten skin deep. At school age children mock each other about differences. Often beautiful looking people are ugly and mean and hellish. While ugly looking people are kind and forgiving and helpful. Clothes,makeup and age spots pass away . What will people remember about you that was really beautiful?
Words of Gold :) Thank you Dear Linda
Linda Marquis your face
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What a bunch of self aggrandizing bullshit.. She spoke more about how positively this "project" effected her life than what the project was actually about, which she didn't even know herself..
It's hard to be pretty.
It is hard to be pretty, if people think you are shallow, because you are beautiful - even if you are meaningful and deep. But if you loose your beauty people think of the same positive attitude as something deep.
Still, I did not take much from this presentation but my own interpretation of it: everyone has their own standard of beauty and you can't please them. So stay who you are, accept your face, how it is, do not let others tell you how to look like. But well... that is not what she said.
She maybe seems very self focused, but maybe she never learned differently, that it is not much worth, to be self focused - but people just praise beauty - so it gets easy to bath in compliments and self worth, if people treat you well. But it is even harder to know, people treat you that way because you are beautiful and others hate you, because you are beautiful and try to see every happiness of yours as an aspect of your beauty - and do not acknowledge all the pain that is behind it and all the hard work someone did.
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"I'm a journalist" is such a self-identification scam.
"My role is to ask questions", bleh.
I agree that this was very difficult to watch and I'm disappointed that this was a TedX talk. Why, Vancouver? I understand that exploring what beauty means to different cultures is interesting, I also understand that a bias exists towards those that are beautiful. I think I would have preferred to listen to something about how beautiful people can use that bias for the greater good, or even a video on how to bring beautiful people back down to earth so that they can learn inner-beauty, if they haven't already. Just...something productive. This video is so superficial, and Esther was devoid of intention or meaning. Unfortunately, this seems to be another case of a beautiful person being given something because they are beautiful. This whole thing was a massive contradiction to the question of, "What does it mean to be beautiful?" We all know the answer of that for you Esther, at least in this case. Please keep researching this for yourself.
I am actually wondering if TedX just used Esther to present a message they find important. Why do beautiful people get away with this kind of nonsense? Perhaps TedX wanted to cause awareness and show that not all viral information is worthwhile and gave this woman as an example. Am I digging deep trying to understand the purpose of this? Maybe.
It's not about beauty its about the perception of beauty.
Every individual has their own conception of beauty. It's clear just from how each nationality percieved her as beautiful and individually molded her into their own intimate concept of what is the perfect woman to them.
YES! Thank you for letting go control over the project. Letting people expand on it freely was cool. It can be mean, rude or inconsiderate and unprofitable but it does enrich our culture.
Her Original picture was the most beautiful, it shows your most beautiful self is how you view yourself even if you are conscious or unconscious of your own beauty. People will only define your beauty based on their perception but their perception is just 15% of how beautiful you are as person.
Not really understanding the message here. You could take any woman and make her "more beautiful." The editors were just doing what she asked, based on their own ideas of beauty...and so...?
I'm glad I read the comments first, before watching this - apparrently saved me 12 minutes of my life haha
This is the worst TED talk I've seen to date. We get it, buzz feed published your article 😂
Lara Not to say this video is good but... I think actually, you will find that the worst ted talk ever is the one titled something like “punk Inuit throat singing”
Give it a go!!! Hahaha
I know she repeatedly said she intended to ask questions not give answers, but it is strange that after all this exposure and interviews she couldn't research the topic to give answers..
With this project she could've interviewed so many people "anthropologist" "plastic surgeons, etc and made it huge.
"I wanted editors worldwide to feed my ego, so I willfuly turned my face into clickbait. After a whole month of spam and first world problems, I got myself into this mess again, but this time at the expense of others. What I learned about beauty is that I dunno and it's just up to whoever".
dreadful.
Each person has it's own perspective of how we should looked like to be beautiful but no one really knows what is beauty in true form...
She's talking like she was the first person to do before and after pictures... So annoying.
You are a beautiful person, in a beautiful body, with a beautiful face and an intelligent, questioning mind. Your project simply proves that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
the most boring ted talk i've seen
it was pointless!
Char N. no
The raw unedited photo was the most beautiful. Absolutely stunning just the way she is.
I just saw the 'own your face' ted video and forgot all what he said.
All she wanted was to become viral. She literally chuckles whenever she mentions that she went viral.
this question/conversation has close ties to the question "what is art". beauty and art are relative to the perspective of the spectator. it is common (and acceptable) for an artist or a thinker to present an audience with an unanswered question. the point or the answer isn't in the question, but in the collective conversation that occurs amongst the spectators. each individual will either arrive at their own conclusion or their own follow up question. that IS the point. personally, I walk away with the belief that I am beautiful. maybe not to everyone. on many days, not even to myself. but knowing that beauty depends on the perspective of the spectator and is limited by such tells me that in terms of absolute truth, I am beautiful.
The big treasure in human beings is he smart his discipline his ambition generosity kindness helps big generosity help others suffering for others have pain for others play etc etc etc
Is anybody else tired of many western women's obsession with appearances & beauty?
Everything seems to revolve around their appearance, make-up, hairstyles, shoes, dresses, handbags, etc.
Too many western women have become incredibly self-absorbed & narcissistic...... It's dysfunctional.
I don't think that it is just the western women. Don't get me wrong i fully agree with you. But women always think they have to be beautiful because they are always told to be beautiful.
+ShynAwkward This *abnormal* obsession with appearances is almost entirely due to social media and GREAT advertising/marketing has enabled these ideologies of beauty to continue to get passed down. It's really sad to see how the definition of beauty has become equated to superficial perfection.
+Voerti not true, it's biological. Maybe social media and advertising can increase it but it doesn't create it out of nowhere.
+Voerti I don't believe that it is just social media that affects women. For example the Chinese had a lot of almost impossible beauty standards way before social media. I believe that it comes from the belief that women have to look presentable to men so she has to have a small waist or small feet etc. It is weird that even at this age women think they have to be "beautiful" at all possible times.
davidd854 cat person I agree with both of you! Biologically we are configured to be attracted to symmetry and youthfulness. Social media and marketing are not the cause, but they perpetuate the ideas and sell them in a much more effective way than we've seen in the past. It's moved beyond makeup into clothing, belongings, and entire lifestyles. In the past it was just a small thing, but now people spend hours of their time trying to aim for perfection and companies make billions. Standards of beauty have existed for ages, but now it's become more than an idea...it something that feels mandatory to us since these ideas literally follow us everywhere!
young lady you are beautiful the way you are yourself. Your quest was the result of your search for the truth. You already gave the right answer in your monologue. The key words are :"thought provocation" "global conversation" "around what we think about and experience every day" and what it really means????It means that many people do not like who or what they are and they think they can be other people: you wee a part of a public domain before you did the project and that it is why you did it. You are very pretty and very smart and many people would like to be like you. And their thoughts get to you . And that was your exemplification of the truth. And what beauty really means?????Beauty is a normal healthy human being , being himself or herself at his or her full potential in natural circumstances.
what's that she's trying to tell through this talk?? The title misguided me.
It helps when you are beautiful to begin with.
O que os telespectadores daqui desse site não entenderam é que ela basicamente fala da cultura do "padrão de beleza" enraizado pela sociedade em cada um dos paises. Podemos perceber que a aparecia dela muda drasticamente de acordo com o pais em que a edição foi feita. No mais, o trabalho dela serviu para uma reflexão simples sobre a estética, padrões de beleza impostos por cada uma dessas culturas de forma que consigamos entender que todos seguem o seu próprio padrão, independente do que é definido pela sua cultura ou não. Obrigado pela atenção e espero que alguém tenha compreendido minha interpretação.
She is telling a story, as her Project exceeds. The point is that it shows how her Project shows what beautiful is in each country.
so at first she says she didn't know what the project meant and then she shows that she got not satisfied with how people started to interpret it, because she didn't manage to make anything out of this. like someone could be wrong. phhh. stupid thought that actually is not worth to spread
Nothing beats natural beauty
Why do all ted talkers talk in exactly the same way? It's so contrived.
it is because they are doing a presentation, which has annoying rules. i know, i did a lot😂, and still do.
How are they supposed to talk then?
She didn't have to open her mouth. She could have just stood there and showed us what beauty is.
JUST CHANGE THE TITLE PLEASE
I found that you, the you who was animated and expressive, and speaking -- showing moments of the WHO that is YOU -- those were actually the most beautiful images of you. I mean that in a literal, aesthetic sense, as well as the more abstract "what's inside that counts" way.
All of the still images, edited and your original, paled in comparison to seeing YOU coming alive. :)
How did this even get to be a project? And does anyone seriously believe this video has 'sparked a global conversation on beauty ideals'? It's as if she thought the only thoughts/commentary on beauty in the history of the world are what she herself has experienced. A millenial-only perspective on such a historically rich subject is bound to be boring.
What I found from her experiment was, 'beauty' or 'the thing people want to see it' are totally different based on where they are from. If you try to change the way you look even, there's always inadequate for everyone. So, be you.
Damn, there's next level shit photoshoping...
If she sent me that photo and told me to make her beautiful, I would send her that same photo back and say "your beautiful just the way you are"
You know, both Lizzie Velasquez and Robert Hodge's Ted Talks are being recommended on the side of my screen right now. And if they're showing on yours, I highly recommend listening to them on the subject of beauty. You'll gain some true insights instead of just a very pretty lady babbling.
Less than a few seconds one can tell your a beautiful person Esther ... wouldn't worry too much about it.
lesson: you can do your own experiments and you might end up with something interesting worth of a ted talk
Real enlightening listening to an attractive woman talk about international beauty standards. It became MORE shallow? Only as a biracial less attractive woman no one picks it up and this is the first time you've ever seen the other iterations. It's so cool to be pretty.
WTF did I just watch?? I want my twelve minutes back.
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This was surprisingly unenlightening. She complained that people were taking the project and deciding what it meant without considering what she thought, but she herself didn't really know what it was about. Repeatedly asking questions is all well and good but eventually you have to start formulating some sort of answer.