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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Sam McKee, co-host of Leafs Talk on Sportsnet, and JD Bunkis give their outlook on the current Maple Leafs roster including what moves might still be plausible, the Oilers they missed out on, and their hopes for new addition Chris Tanev.
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Maple Leafs Off-Season Evaluation with Sam McKee | JD Bunkis Podcast
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Marner is not built for pressure. He will not have a season like Willy, he will crumble from fans booing for not signing and accepting trade.
Torontos chance of a cup is zero. That window closed two years ago. Mathew’s and nylander syphoned that chance with those contracts. Can’t win with mediocre defence and below average goaltending
Yep you should be gm bahhahaha
@@RealBillBerg_8he should. he's right.
I'll watch, but first state letting Marner play out the year, or Worse signing him into infinity is really bad for him and the club. Chief's apparently applying a heavy N/S game. Marner simply doesn't fit this style. Best for him to do what's best for his career and move on. If the Leafs are not at this point, then they are failing as leaders of the club.
After 8 years this team couldnt get it done whats diffrent now nothings gonna change.
Sam you said it best about Robertson. He is given some really bad advise if he thinks that he has been treated poorly by the Leafs. Dude has been injured so many times and the Leafs have progressively given him more and more opportunities every year on a stacked forward group. In a year or two on this team he could very well be a permanent top 6 forward if he continues his progression.
If we spend 1 more hour discussing Robertson it's 1 hour too much. The guy is an amazing player .... in the AHL.
@@Mick-zzword
People aren't talking about how much our forwards play D because of how bad the defence was.. our O might just be better because they are allowed to be more aggressive
our d was top half of the league fs, and defence should be a team concept anyways..
A solid B, letting Zadorov go to Boston was a mistake.
Zadorov is going to terrorize this Leafs team for years lmao
Are there two bigger crybabies in sports? My word😂. Let it play out. Woll was amazing, he just got hurt. I’m sure he is working to become more durable but injuries happen in sports. If you think they were going to sign Bob or something, it’s not happening 😂. These two are the face of why people don’t want to play in Toronto. These two scream and kick about not wanting marner then wonder why other teams don’t want him? Relax man. Edmonton just finally now are getting consistent playoff success. Took the avs a min too with Mack. Let it play out
“When have the Leafs had worse forwards” idk maybe 2005-2016 bruh tf
Shanahan had a plan with Dubas that got derailed with covid and Shanahan's over-extended "loyalty" kept him from moving off the $$ core. The only way to slavage his job now is a Marner trade. Hopefully Brad can wave his GM magic wand. Otherwise, this embittered fanbase will turn against Marner and Shanahan very quickly. Seize the day, Mitch can't stay.
overspending on a free agent when you have three expensive stars already is never a good idea.
JD you need to Really look at things from a more positive and clearer lens! BOTH Knies and McMann will finish with more goals and points than Bertuzzi. The ONLY FORWARD they'll be lacking and addressing with a trade is a 3C. They'll get it done, don't worry! Go have a few Screetch's in NFLD.
lol Sam is out of his mind saying Leafs are anything like the Oilers, besides the macro point of view. Garbage in goal, bad defense, top heavy offense. But details matter. The Leafs Core don't play playoff hockey. McDavid sets records and shows up every year. Draisatl had a "bad" playoff, which would still be better than any playoffs the handbag brigade has ever had. What a joke.
lmao buddy skinner is terrible in net. You ain’t winning anything with him
^second that
@@jimmystimmy123 He took them to game 7 of the cup final? Delusional leafs fan at it yet again
@@jhb6150 buddy, if you think Skinner is the one that took the Oilers to game 7, you're the delusional one. He was .901 and is a career below .900 goalie in the playoffs. Not to mention, the stinker he let in, in game 7. The Oilers made it to the finals thanks to McDavid playing lights out. Their depth, and their PK and PP playing out of their minds. Skinner is MID.
Agreed. Big picture (as of now). Core four stays, other parts get shuffled, continuity built is diminished. How is this different from previous years? Defense is potentially better, but I’m skeptical of it being enough to change the DNA of this team to that of a real contender.
The leafs should sell the farm to get nazim Kadri im pissed.
What the hell do you keep looking up at? The both of you
I love both you guys, I really do, but you have a ton of negativity and you offer no solutions other than get rid of Shanahan. The Leafs hands are still tied thanks to Dubas. We are just going to have to wait. Let’s see what Treliving does signing some depth players over the next month or so.
jesus christ. I love you boys but it’s so hard to listen to you when you’re so god damn negative about everything this team does. Goaltending and defense win playoffs and lemme tell yah they got 10 times better in both. They’ll get someone at the deadline. If yall hate covering the leafs so much you know you don’t have to do it eh? 😂
how did they get better treliving and tanev have never been close to winning anything at any level, tanev was the weakest link in calgary, getting old slow players doesnt make you better go ask dallas, domi is horrible go ask the 10 other teams he played for
@@donniedoesdishes you’re an idiot if you don’t think they got better on the backend 😂
The Shana-plan has been a disaster. The core-four has been a disaster. The team is no better this year than they were last season and Boston looks much better.
The Leafs cap management has been horrible at best. Zero consideration to the big picture and this off season proves that nothing meaningful has changed.
The oilers are average
Come on, they're running it back, only rearranging the deck chairs on the Leaftanic. 70 year old Leaf fan here, and this is deja vu all over again. Unless there's a big change before the season starts.
Like the song says 'year after year'
truth
So Hakennpaa has a broken knee and they signed this guy? Assuming that contract is void because he's not healthy, then only 2 new Dmen added. That's not a transformational change, I don't see the needle moving at all.
How come they keep doing this? It’s maddening.
I have not watched the Jays in 5 years. I gave up! The Leafs are next. i am fed up! The moves the Leafs make are nuts. I do not think they have a glue on what they are doing.? Or they have no choice and keep making marginal moves. Tanev is finished! OEL can be replaced by a minimum contract D. Could of got Gustafsson for example. What was wrong with lyubushkin for 2 years instead of Tanev forever. Could of kept Bertuzzi instead of these done and over cooked D.
Robertson was treated a lot differently than Nylander was earlier in his career.
Robertson has no leverage here. If he got that advice to request a trade from his Agent. I’d be looking at a different Agent. Next season Robertson could be a full time Leaf. And he’s a damn good player.
I think it was due to Keefe not liking Robertson much and cap space.
Like everyone else. You have to wait yer turn. Or SHOW he belongs.
I wonder if they give him a 1 year show me what you’ve learned and prove you belong on this team.
It’s not handed to them.
Bit o do think they’ve treated Robertson a bit differently then Nylander and we all know he was a yo-yo between the Marlies and Leafs.
Robertson cant make the team Hanst yet. Bobby McMann was behind him on the depth chart and past him, Pontus Holmberg past roberetson too. The kid cant cut it full time and he isnt a bottom 6 player
JD is getting harder and harder to watch, and I say that prior to this one. So emotional, he comes off as a fan and not an analyst, forever offended and butt hurt, it gets ooooolllllldddd. I feel like professionalism is waning, and volume is increasing.
TH-cam sound like a bunch of clowns why don't you just to kiss don't know what you're talking about how do you get a talk show
So much for his cup chasing tactic. Signs with Dallas to chase a cup and is gone the very next season. 😂
Players go to Edmonton because they've proven they can get to the Finals
JD what brings you to NL?!? A bit of a different pace here than Toronto lol.
Liljegren for Morgan Frost?
Sorry I got nothing, I think the teams worse. Small victory I guess with max and woll. The rest sux. Secondary scoring a problem. Maybe Cowan, knies, and Robertson become 50 point guys. Frankly shanny, Brad, fired fired fired
I don't give a damn how or what they do, as long as they can do something in the playoffs, I'm fine with it.
(I'm fine with everything except from Matthews leaving)
All that empty space is a perfect homage to Auston's fivehead.
typical leafer
Welcome to Newfoundland Bunk.
Yepp. The Shana plan lives on for another year.
I believe his contract is up at seasons end. Don’t think they’ll bring him back. This is also why I think the 4-Core will remain. Sadly.
Everyone else is gone except Shanny. .
Zadorov on the Bruins is going to haunt the Leafs for years to come!
Hes a 3rd pairing D, outside of his size what's he bring. Glad he went to bean town
I think it was the player they put in the deal for Tanev was a Free Agent. Not sure if Dallas re-signed him. But it was a good indication Leafs weren’t gonna sign him. If Dallas didn’t re-sign the guy. The Leafs basically paid a 7th rounder for the rights to Tanev.
I also think with the signings of the new D-Core opened up a new window for a couple years to win now. IMO. Plus Tuey really beefed up tue D-Core.
The only way to handle Marner is assuming this is his final year as a Leaf = limited PP time; no PK time; 2nd/3rd line; benched if not trying hard or scratched from many games. Guess what - his ticket will be greatly reduced once a full FA in 2025 for either Leaf extension or better yet to another team crying on the way out.
Look at most of the teams in the nhl, two great players and the rest are good players(real good ), good or great goalies , and great top defence and little less lower four, fifth, sixth d-men. Not this way for 8- years with Mathew’s and nylander and marner
I cant believe the leafs didnt make any moves up front there still holes. No speed up the middle sorry to say tanev is just Gio 2.0 every other team got way better but toronto.
When is Bronny checking in though?
Janni Hakennpaa isnt going to change much. He's a little slow, doesn't fight as much as the presented it here, but he is physical for sure. Got a heavy shot but doesn't get to use it much do to speed factor.
What would you do Butkiss???
tanev was a horrible signing he isnt a leader he hasnt won nothing and is soon to be 35 and slow , i bet if we went and ask markstrom how hw feels about the great signing in leaf history was in front of him
The jilted lovers bring up Dubas again. They can’t quit him.
The big move is: you trade Marner and you can strengthen 2nd and 3rd line wingers and more.
They let Gregor go. tells me all i need to know about this management team.
@@EnglishFuture-xg1gw Jesus he was terrible, your kidding oh I get it... Troll
Like to watch play our own ground before our neighbors.tnx bro"
Need for trainor who's marstery for "ai"players im afraid i cant deliver the scores.thnx bro.
Marner is going to go to vegas
If Marner is being traded he will probably be shipped together with Robertson. Those two to Vegas for Theodore, a middle 6 forward, a prospect and a couple picks.
@@Michael-pg7rv I agree with that
Did toronto not learn anything from the edmonton and panthers series there still the same team.
I cannot believe Shanny A/ hired Babs knowing what he is B/ still has a job.
How many games total for oel and tanev ? 40 my guess
Right… when OEL played 80 games last year and Tanev played 76. Not to mention the amount of games they played in the playoffs. Do some research before commenting lmao
Now we have a solid defence and forwards can concentrate and score goals
The PowerPlay was the issue last year in the playoffs. It was the PowerPlay and the injuries affected the PowerPlay and not having a good puck moving defenseman.
have to agree about the defense Edmundson and Bushkin couldnt make a pass to get the puck out
See i dont get it the defense wasn't the issue that i can remember the forwards couldnt get it done when it really mattered whats diffrent this year.
Toronto ain’t beating Boston. That’s for sure. Love tavev turning 35 in December but 6 years at 4.5m per year?!? He’s very slow Besides blocking shots I don’t see what’s he gonna bring. Should have gone after zadorov at 5m for 6 years. And he’s 29 years old. He’s a monster.
over paying for a third pairing guy
"boss what time on 3rd of Jul."
Salary cap is ruining the league
3 years of Tanev is only worth it if we win a cup or he goes on LTIR at the end of his contract. If not, it is just another handicap and years off the prime of this core.
Sammy so triggered on the ohl 😂😂
Trade Lillypad and bring DeAngelo in on a 1x1
Were not dead in the O, Sammy. Preach
There's liking on my tv tech and also L L C own the hybrid h c e t had rules need to figure out the reliable one.
Trial on Analytics
Gonna wrote it down the sched bro.thnx
Ooh, this pucks not going out😂😂😂😂😂😂 sooooooo fckin true
JD Bunkis = Total Respect - you tell it like no one else in the Toronto Podcast Media world.
OEL is 2nd pair
Greetings bro
You know what makes the Mitch situation toxic? These two talking about him like he is a piece of trash every.single. Day. Sportsnet I am ready to takeover if you need me haha
I think you all are forgetting Cowan. I saw him a lot last year...... He can play right now in the NHL....
He can't go to the AHL, and there is NO benefit to sending him back to the Hunter Bros.
Mitch will have a career year...wait and see.
Marner JT and Cowan could seriously light up the league
Is sportsnet from toronto?
Watching MB.
Taking care my toodler i miss the games apology
huh?
OEL is absolutely a 3rd pair guy. Also, Benoit is the 7th in that D core. Looks like this:
Rielly Tanev
McCabe Liljegren
OEL Hakanpaa
Murray goes to the Marlies and Timmins gets traded or waived.
Benoit over the sissy Lilly everyday of the week. GO HOME
I GUARANTEE and you can quote me on this the leafs wont win with this group of forwards. Every great forward knows toronto is a one and done playoff team EVEN AN OK PLAYER THAT SKINNER IS KNOWS IT.
JD you know 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
Leafs=overpaid bums
Sign Marner for $13.69M x 8 years. With a promise for another 8 in 7 years.
Kyle? Zat choo?
Dubious/Dubus, hired within the Shanaplan,,,see the correlation?
Take as much time off as they will give you JD!!!! Permanent vacation 😆😆😆😆😆
Treliving's incompetency is staggering.
No offence to Sam but has he ever played any level of competitive hockey? Questionable takes and acts like he’s the lead role