theOrangeDoom "IN THIS CORNER, WITH THE WEIGHT OF HIS TEAM ON HIS SHOULDERS, THE ORANGE DOOM, AND IN THE OTHER SALTY PLAYER WHO GETTING REKT BY ONE GUY"
The Pershing can pen the Maus' turret front from 1km away with APCR m8 and since the only time a Maus will be a threat to you is when his turret is facing your direction, killing his gunner wouldn't be a problem.
Gently massage the enemy player -make sure to push the eyeballs back as far as they will go -focus on the heart and other vital organs -rake in some sweet moola
Hi OrangeDoom. I know this is rather off-topic, but I have a question. Why do you use Indicated Airspeed instead of True Airspeed? True Airspeed is adjusted for height and temperature, so air density. This means that you won't think you may stall every time the Angle of Attack gets high at 10 km height, because you're actually still going 500 km/h. (Just an example.) For me, using TAS was the solution for freaking out every time because my airplane wasn't as fast as it said on the stat card, according to IAS.
I miss War Thunder. I haven't played since mid 2016. What's changed? Should I come back or should I stay away? I found myself quickly getting over my head once I got to rank V in the US and UK
splendid! Pls do that bombing tut that I asked for. After I saw this I think I will start to play air forces. I did not till now cuz my skills with planes are zero. I'm not so bad tanker, but with planes...
Go with the 262 50mm with APHE shells. Its freaking wonderful. Killing T29/34 is the easist thing ever through their roof and best part, none can kill you xD
The ending of this game is similar to my air RB battle with the Ho 229 2v1 in Korea being the last one left I decided to destroy the vehicles while destroying most of them I was down to 34 rounds left with on f84 and f80 on me dodging their round as I simultaneously destroy the rest with 2 passes causing their tickets to go down to 100s so close I said to myself and also I said it would be funny if the game gives me the win and at that moment pop I won LMAO it was yesterday
German tank teams may not win all the time. But ive noticed most of the time they'll fight till the end. Ive noticed when the american team loses, they are always stuck in spawn. Rip
Nice video Orange. But I think most people dont have so many planes or dont have such a skill in everything. You are the god of planes you can outmanuveur spitfire mk 24 in fully loaded thunderbolt. So yeah nice lineup but most players cant aim bombs or when I drop bombs I kill someone from my team rather then enemy.
Rockets wouldn't be nerfed to where they would be usless they would be nerfes to realistic levels that require skill something a Elitist won't understand because their broken / glitched meta is being taken away and made realistic... -coming from a DCS player
+Poffertje here are some small quotes from an article about Allied CAS (and your beloved RP-3's): "A trial conducted by the RAF had fired 64 rockets (RP-3's) from 4 Typhoon's(2 flights) at a stationary Panther painted white. A total of 3 hits were recorded giving the rockets a 4.69% accuracy rating in the most perfect of circumstances. Near misses did no damage to the tank. In real combat the Panzers would have some some camouflage, some flak protection(which downed hundreds of Allied fighter-bombers over NW Europe and greatly reduced accuracy of bombs and rockets), and crews that would know to seek cover when they realize they are being shot at. Bombs were even worse in regards to accuracy. It had been concluded that overall it took 800 rockets or 3500 bombs to hit a tank sized target in battle conditions." "Now, regardless that aircraft weaponry was near useless against tanks, the RaF and USAAC both claimed hundreds of panzers. Some documented cases show that these claims are horribly exaggerated. Near La Baleine, France Typhoons conducted 99 sorties on a German Armored Column consisting of ~50 tanks. The pilots claimed to have KO’d 17 of the tanks. The British Army’s No. 2 ORS investigated the area and found that there was a total of 9 tanks, 2 of which were actually destroyed by rockets or just 11% of the original claim. Around Mortain the US and British pilots claimed to have destroyed/probably destroyed a total of 120 tanks. The actual number of destroyed AFVs in the area is close to 45 tanks, only 9 seemed to be victims of airstrikes or 7% of the original claim. At the Falaise Gap the Fighter-Bombers claimed 3x more tanks(391) than the Germans actually lost(133). The number of tanks lost to aircraft seemed to be 15 in the Falaise area or 4% of the original claim. Things didn’t go much better in the Ardennes with air units claiming 66 tanks in an area which under inspection was found that only 1 of 101 tanks were knocked out by air and another 6 likely knocked out by air. As this has shown, these claims about tanks getting decimated by aircraft doesn’t really hold any water." Sources: Air Power at the Battlefront: Allied Close Air Support in Europe 1943-45 by Dr. Ian Gooderson Air Power in the Age of Total War by John Buckley Air Power: The Men, Machines, and Ideas that Revolutionized War, from Kitty Hawk to Iraq by Stephen Budiansky Show less REPLY
You´re missing the point entirely. IRL, RAF pilots approached targets like this; they flew at at least 2400m altitude and dove on tanks they saw at a 60 degree angle. They then fired a full salvo of RP3s at 1200m alt and broke off. This manner of carrying out an attack was adopted in order to prevent German flak from shooting them down. This is the reason accuracy was so low. They had no mouse aim, 3rd person view and an altitude of 100m when firing a single pair of rockets, like we do in game. They were in a cockpit, trying to spot tanks from 2400m up and trying to set up their aim from above 1200m while barely being able to see the tanks they aimed for, even if painted white and of course all while being shot at by flak. So I suggest go in a Sim match, get up to 2400m, try to spot tanks, dive on them at a 60 degree angle, spam the fire button at 1200m and see if you can reliably get kills. You won´t, and keep in mind IRL it was even more difficult than even that. The rockets themselves were accurate, the way they were used not so much. Accuracy aside, I started off by saying you missed the point entirely: it´s not about accuracy, it´s about what the rockets did when they hit. The RP3 replaced the 25lb AP rocket (which had slightly over 100mm of pen) because the 25lb AP wasn´t deemed capable of dealing with Tiger Is. The RP3 was then tested in 1942 and approved because it was effective. They were in service from 1943 to the late 60´s. They could take out Tiger Is *at least*, as that was the entire purpose for bringing them into service. They *have* taken out Panthers and Pz IVs in the battles you mentioned. IRL, RP3s were highly effective not because they killed tanks, but because tank crews being fired at knew that *if* one of those rockets hit them, they were dead. This followed from RAF prisoner interrogations after the battle of Mortain. At the battle of Mortain, Typhoons with RP3s stopped a column of 50-60 tanks by barraging it with rockets. The German crews were so scared of being hit that they abandoned their tanks and took cover, probably because they knew what happened to other crews that actually did get hit. The aftermath of the battle? 43 tanks left behind by crews, only 7 (your source says 9, mine 7) tanks actually killed by RP3s due to a rare direct hit (not rare at all in WT because we all fly at like 100m alt and have mouse aim and 3rd person visibilty). But the point is... RP3s stopped an entire tank advance of I think it was 5 divisions. Gaijin has modelled them as HE only and completely ignored the AP tip. A direct hit is supposed to do a lot of damage. It´s not for nothing that German crews were scared to death of being shot at (and the interrogation reports show that even the crews themselves knew that most rockets missed), they knew what had happened to their comrades that got hit in the past. The crews that were hit had an extremely low chance of survival. It´s just that... IRL they barely got hit. In WT they frequently do Sources: Typhoon Attack: the Legendary British Fighter in Combat in World War II. Norman Franks(actual Typhoon pilots writing about the initial very high casualties among planes carrying out RP attacks at a lower alt and 30 degree angle and explaining exactly how all RAF pilots had to attack with RP3s, which was the method I described earlier) A History of Air-to-Surface Rocket Systems. Wing Commander David Herriot (Journal 45 of the RAF Historical Society) (60lb SAP, or RP3, replaced 25lb AP because the latter couldn´t deal with the Tiger I well enough and the former could) The Rocket-Firing Typhoons in Normandy. Dr Alfred Price (also journal 45 of the RAF Historical Society) (writes about various battles RP3s were involved in. Mentions the low accuracy and high kill claims as you rightfully pointed out too, but also the effect of RP3s on the morale of the enemy due to the effect of RP3s *if* they hit. The morale effect was the power of the RP3 IRL and made crews leave their tanks in fear of a devastating direct hit)
IF rockets are gonna get nerfed to uselessness? you haven't done your homework it seems. go to 5 hour 20 minutes in the next twitch video link. Copied from reddit: Extensive T-64a testing at: 5:57:50 > www.twitch.tv/videos/171501804 // 4:48:03 mbt-70 armor testing (can be penned by heatfs from T-62/T-64/T-10m/Object 120 (and probable IT-1 as well) 4:59:11 is where m60 era testing starts. 5:07:31 ontos testing 5:11:06 MBT-70 again 5:13:29 m60 era again 5:20:38 m60 vs air and air to ground rockets nerf 5:30:10 mbt-70 vs air 5:34:20 mbt-70 again as mentioned before 5:57:50 t-64a, all the way to 7:15 after that more air to ground rocket testing > more mbt-70 (vs UK) > m60 era long range testing ends at 8:36
Salty Oranges are the best fruit to enjoy hue.
Salting orange makes it tastier but grapefruit is better with salt.
*oh look, orange is in a massage machine called 262, let me try to headon*
oof
When some get triggered, they ragequit or cry. When OrangeDoom gets triggered, he goes Super Saiyan on their asses.
Sorry for the re-upload, had to fix a render error. Thank you for the patience! 🐘
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theOrangeDoom "IN THIS CORNER, WITH THE WEIGHT OF HIS TEAM ON HIS SHOULDERS, THE ORANGE DOOM, AND IN THE OTHER SALTY PLAYER WHO GETTING REKT BY ONE GUY"
what do you think about me 262 with 50 mm gun as a CAS? Is it really effective enough? it has capability to kill more than 2 tanks.
theOrangeDoom what tank are you most excited for in 1.71?
whats the skin orange?
LOL ı miss the times when we DON'T HEADON ORANGE
Good old egotistical days
that's such a bad joke btw
+OptimalOptimus50 never say never. Many have fallen.
Yeah probably it is :/, but ı tried once ı escaped once then never saw you again
Lol orange "*good old* egotistical days," buddy in English that saying implies that it has changed
ＡＲＡＤＯ ✈ ＡＫＢＡＲ
*proceed to ram enemy fighters*
*Ruskii9000 intensifies*
Comment section:
50% - normal comments
25% - people complaining about his ego
20% - people coming from other videos about the CAS topic
5% - others
What an amazing attitude to have when you have a bad run. If everyone had this instead of complaining we would have amazing matches.
And you keep saying that CAS is not winning Games....
On Double Cap Maps, which is approximately >33% of all matches
*note to self* Don't make Orange mad or he will give you a massage without a happy ending.
nobody :
2019 : DID HE SAY THE F WORD!
Two uploads in two days? Nuts have been busted
i do remember 12/16 when you were upload every day for a month
Oml Your Profile Pic Is The Best Thing Ever
I love the Arado
WELL PLAYED.! I throughly enjoy watching a TEAM , be A TEAM. HUZZAH.!
"... maybe watch a movie " - laughed so hard :D!
I just want the Maus at 7.3
and is4m
well, as long as asshats use cas that's not going to happen
The Pershing can pen the Maus' turret front from 1km away with APCR m8 and since the only time a Maus will be a threat to you is when his turret is facing your direction, killing his gunner wouldn't be a problem.
It's not like you can kill t54-47 in your pershing, and that tank goes twice as fast meaning flanking it will be harder.
You’re more crazy then your profile pic
Your Thumbnail is still killing me xD
Legit just got disowned today because I didn't want to be a doctor. At least I have orangedoom to make me feel better
lol
Fuck being a doctor
SgtMorninWood #IndianFamilyFeels ?
Asian*
Turn tricks to pay for mcdonalds
Definitely one of my new favorite videos
I just grinded out the British Aircraft(mainly because of the Hunter) and what about now should i grind the german aircraft or the russian aircraft?
The German one :v
Gently massage the enemy player
-make sure to push the eyeballs back as far as they will go
-focus on the heart and other vital organs
-rake in some sweet moola
Hi OrangeDoom. I know this is rather off-topic, but I have a question. Why do you use Indicated Airspeed instead of True Airspeed? True Airspeed is adjusted for height and temperature, so air density. This means that you won't think you may stall every time the Angle of Attack gets high at 10 km height, because you're actually still going 500 km/h. (Just an example.)
For me, using TAS was the solution for freaking out every time because my airplane wasn't as fast as it said on the stat card, according to IAS.
I miss War Thunder. I haven't played since mid 2016. What's changed? Should I come back or should I stay away? I found myself quickly getting over my head once I got to rank V in the US and UK
Random dude: *Insults Orange*
Orange: So you have chosen death
what happens when you encounter hawker hunters, IS-6, T34, T29, F-86 Sabre, Mig-17, and japanese F-86 sabre???
I like how you roasted that dude very civilize roasting :3
splendid! Pls do that bombing tut that I asked for. After I saw this I think I will start to play air forces. I did not till now cuz my skills with planes are zero. I'm not so bad tanker, but with planes...
I’m just now realized how nice the thumbnail is
Congrats on 40K
Can you play the Maus? I would really want to see you play it!
Yikes, the ground and air ace... impressive. Your aim is amazing btw.
Wish I had that 262... hope they keep doing what the did for the last one
commentary is fantastic lmao
15 kills? Good job Orange!
i've only played air rb so how do you play tank rb like the vid i mean respawning and stuff
So do you think the meta will shift back to Germany again/maby Orange?
can you try a 4.0 to 4.3 japanese line up
Jesus I wish I could aim cannons like you do.
Plz come back😭
Who else is watching this in 2022
Orange: Manners, make it man(shuts the door)
you're saying about 7.0 but what about 5.7+ what's the lineup in that br
such anmount of RP. And you cappa have spaded everything... :D
That was a pretty incredible game
i wish can have teammates like you..
My favorite part of CAS?? Shrugging off 10 HVARs and two 500kg bombs without a scratch in my Tiger II
Great video to see you in berserk mode 😂
It's an honor to get killed by you Orange in a random tank RB match :D
"what could we do if rockets got nerfed so bad they were unusable"
man those were the days
Go with the 262 50mm with APHE shells. Its freaking wonderful. Killing T29/34 is the easist thing ever through their roof and best part, none can kill you xD
Shows that ONE match he did very well
*Germany is automatically best CAS*
7:10 lmao
11:16
*B O O M S H A K A L A K A*
where's the Ho229 in your lineup?
what about Horten, orange(?)
Took me three minutes to notice I accidently skipped to the end on my phone
Brilliant orange!
What's with the swastika on the Arado? is that new or a skin?
the fv you killed was the guy that insulted you, also very entertaining (its Johnny Tucan btw)
They fuckes up this br. Whenever I pickup arado c or b with panther 2 playing against chiefteins or merkavas with helis 😥
you can zoom in the map oO
i'm mindblown
What's the name of the garage mod?
The ending of this game is similar to my air RB battle with the Ho 229 2v1 in Korea being the last one left I decided to destroy the vehicles while destroying most of them I was down to 34 rounds left with on f84 and f80 on me dodging their round as I simultaneously destroy the rest with 2 passes causing their tickets to go down to 100s so close I said to myself and also I said it would be funny if the game gives me the win and at that moment pop I won LMAO it was yesterday
Typhoon vs ME 262 haha :D balanced! Nice vid btw :)
Can't wait till his squadron commander sees this video and he gets removed XD
This is the definition of nerd rage
Communities wishes for next update: Plis nerf Orange, too op!
What does needed mean
6 Airplane kills and 9 Tank kills, Nice.
Beautiful video
How do I aim hispanos mk V on Wvyvern
Practice!
LOVE UR VIDS DUDE!
Except they aren't making it impossible to kill shit with cas, but making the rockets with HE be more like tank HE shells.
all the youtubers are happy cause germany is the only one with good cas again
German tank teams may not win all the time. But ive noticed most of the time they'll fight till the end.
Ive noticed when the american team loses, they are always stuck in spawn. Rip
special treatment is basically a spank on the ass of the play
er that insults doom.
Loved it. I'd be so pissed being called that............ This is a better way.
This game was the best i ever saw.
Nice video Orange. But I think most people dont have so many planes or dont have such a skill in everything. You are the god of planes you can outmanuveur spitfire mk 24 in fully loaded thunderbolt. So yeah nice lineup but most players cant aim bombs or when I drop bombs I kill someone from my team rather then enemy.
Rockets wouldn't be nerfed to where they would be usless they would be nerfes to realistic levels that require skill something a Elitist won't understand because their broken / glitched meta is being taken away and made realistic... -coming from a DCS player
Do you think RP3 rockets barely being able to kill a T-34 even though they were used up until the late 60´s by the British is realistic?
All rockets use an old damage model, they don't work how they should. It is not a matter of balance, but a matter of a flawed game mechanic.
+Poffertje here are some small quotes from an article about Allied CAS (and your beloved RP-3's):
"A trial conducted by the RAF had fired 64 rockets (RP-3's) from 4 Typhoon's(2 flights) at a stationary Panther painted white. A total of 3 hits were recorded giving the rockets a 4.69% accuracy rating in the most perfect of circumstances. Near misses did no damage to the tank. In real combat the Panzers would have some some camouflage, some flak protection(which downed hundreds of Allied fighter-bombers over NW Europe and greatly reduced accuracy of bombs and rockets), and crews that would know to seek cover when they realize they are being shot at. Bombs were even worse in regards to accuracy. It had been concluded that overall it took 800 rockets or 3500 bombs to hit a tank sized target in battle conditions."
"Now, regardless that aircraft weaponry was near useless against tanks, the RaF and USAAC both claimed hundreds of panzers. Some documented cases show that these claims are horribly exaggerated. Near La Baleine, France Typhoons conducted 99 sorties on a German Armored Column consisting of ~50 tanks. The pilots claimed to have KO’d 17 of the tanks. The British Army’s No. 2 ORS investigated the area and found that there was a total of 9 tanks, 2 of which were actually destroyed by rockets or just 11% of the original claim. Around Mortain the US and British pilots claimed to have destroyed/probably destroyed a total of 120 tanks. The actual number of destroyed AFVs in the area is close to 45 tanks, only 9 seemed to be victims of airstrikes or 7% of the original claim. At the Falaise Gap the Fighter-Bombers claimed 3x more tanks(391) than the Germans actually lost(133). The number of tanks lost to aircraft seemed to be 15 in the Falaise area or 4% of the original claim. Things didn’t go much better in the Ardennes with air units claiming 66 tanks in an area which under inspection was found that only 1 of 101 tanks were knocked out by air and another 6 likely knocked out by air. As this has shown, these claims about tanks getting decimated by aircraft doesn’t really hold any water."
Sources:
Air Power at the Battlefront: Allied Close Air Support in Europe 1943-45 by Dr. Ian Gooderson
Air Power in the Age of Total War by John Buckley
Air Power: The Men, Machines, and Ideas that Revolutionized War, from Kitty Hawk to Iraq by Stephen Budiansky
Show less
REPLY
You´re missing the point entirely. IRL, RAF pilots approached targets like this; they flew at at least 2400m altitude and dove on tanks they saw at a 60 degree angle. They then fired a full salvo of RP3s at 1200m alt and broke off. This manner of carrying out an attack was adopted in order to prevent German flak from shooting them down. This is the reason accuracy was so low. They had no mouse aim, 3rd person view and an altitude of 100m when firing a single pair of rockets, like we do in game. They were in a cockpit, trying to spot tanks from 2400m up and trying to set up their aim from above 1200m while barely being able to see the tanks they aimed for, even if painted white and of course all while being shot at by flak. So I suggest go in a Sim match, get up to 2400m, try to spot tanks, dive on them at a 60 degree angle, spam the fire button at 1200m and see if you can reliably get kills. You won´t, and keep in mind IRL it was even more difficult than even that.
The rockets themselves were accurate, the way they were used not so much.
Accuracy aside, I started off by saying you missed the point entirely: it´s not about accuracy, it´s about what the rockets did when they hit. The RP3 replaced the 25lb AP rocket (which had slightly over 100mm of pen) because the 25lb AP wasn´t deemed capable of dealing with Tiger Is. The RP3 was then tested in 1942 and approved because it was effective. They were in service from 1943 to the late 60´s. They could take out Tiger Is *at least*, as that was the entire purpose for bringing them into service. They *have* taken out Panthers and Pz IVs in the battles you mentioned. IRL, RP3s were highly effective not because they killed tanks, but because tank crews being fired at knew that *if* one of those rockets hit them, they were dead. This followed from RAF prisoner interrogations after the battle of Mortain. At the battle of Mortain, Typhoons with RP3s stopped a column of 50-60 tanks by barraging it with rockets. The German crews were so scared of being hit that they abandoned their tanks and took cover, probably because they knew what happened to other crews that actually did get hit. The aftermath of the battle? 43 tanks left behind by crews, only 7 (your source says 9, mine 7) tanks actually killed by RP3s due to a rare direct hit (not rare at all in WT because we all fly at like 100m alt and have mouse aim and 3rd person visibilty). But the point is... RP3s stopped an entire tank advance of I think it was 5 divisions.
Gaijin has modelled them as HE only and completely ignored the AP tip. A direct hit is supposed to do a lot of damage. It´s not for nothing that German crews were scared to death of being shot at (and the interrogation reports show that even the crews themselves knew that most rockets missed), they knew what had happened to their comrades that got hit in the past. The crews that were hit had an extremely low chance of survival. It´s just that... IRL they barely got hit. In WT they frequently do
Sources:
Typhoon Attack: the Legendary British Fighter in Combat in World War II. Norman Franks(actual Typhoon pilots writing about the initial very high casualties among planes carrying out RP attacks at a lower alt and 30 degree angle and explaining exactly how all RAF pilots had to attack with RP3s, which was the method I described earlier)
A History of Air-to-Surface Rocket Systems. Wing Commander David Herriot (Journal 45 of the RAF Historical Society) (60lb SAP, or RP3, replaced 25lb AP because the latter couldn´t deal with the Tiger I well enough and the former could)
The Rocket-Firing Typhoons in Normandy. Dr Alfred Price (also journal 45 of the RAF Historical Society) (writes about various battles RP3s were involved in. Mentions the low accuracy and high kill claims as you rightfully pointed out too, but also the effect of RP3s on the morale of the enemy due to the effect of RP3s *if* they hit. The morale effect was the power of the RP3 IRL and made crews leave their tanks in fear of a devastating direct hit)
Clorox Bleach I don't think Orange is bothered by the nerf
DID SUMONE SAY GERMAN 7.0 LINEUP?
Rest in peace T92.
Yay it's back
What game mode???
Loooool he changed the title
What was the earlier
Ofc, that would be the most Offensive title he would ever made
What 262 skin is that? looks smexy af
live.warthunder.com/post/530567/en/
Should be this one.
sweet thanks
No problem m8. :)
hahahhhaahaahaahahha, i loved the intro XD
YES. THE KARMA. I CAN FEEL IT
OH.MY.GOD
what skin???
You triggered my trapcard
IF rockets are gonna get nerfed to uselessness? you haven't done your homework it seems.
go to 5 hour 20 minutes in the next twitch video link.
Copied from reddit:
Extensive T-64a testing at: 5:57:50 > www.twitch.tv/videos/171501804
//
4:48:03 mbt-70 armor testing (can be penned by heatfs from T-62/T-64/T-10m/Object 120 (and probable IT-1 as well)
4:59:11 is where m60 era testing starts.
5:07:31 ontos testing
5:11:06 MBT-70 again
5:13:29 m60 era again
5:20:38 m60 vs air and air to ground rockets nerf
5:30:10 mbt-70 vs air
5:34:20 mbt-70 again
as mentioned before 5:57:50 t-64a, all the way to 7:15
after that more air to ground rocket testing > more mbt-70 (vs UK) > m60 era long range
testing ends at 8:36
Go look up conjunction "if" and its meaning, then do your homework.
Arth020 ... What does that mean?
wut, reupload?
There's a nani meme to be made here somewhere.....
That guy in chat triggered me too
7:09 There goes the demonitization xd
Thanks for clearing up my stuffy nose. Lots of sodium in the air.
genius !!!!
mmm... a Mentalist fan... I see... Patric Jane is awesome!
Looks like I'm the only one who got the 69 reference