Your complaint over dual rear window switches is strange to me. Cars like this aren't supposed to have kids in the back, it's for transporting middle level execs.
More like high level executives. This is way beyond the pay grade of middle management. It's for high executives who need Korean cars to avoid national disgrace.
I worked in Seoul for several months and my company didn’t want me to get a korean driver’s license since my project was just for this few months and there would be likely no follow up ever in Korea, so everywhere I went was in „business Taxis“. We where told not to order regular old junk taxies, even if it was for just a ride from the hotel to the next BurgerKing (and I didn’t mind since my company paid all the cab rides without further questioning of it’s sense). These rides where either this equus, another local luxury car which kinda looked also looked like a fake Mercedes or a 7 seater van with sliding doors, super comfortable captain chairs and amazing luxury interior. These cars where so damn comfortable to get chauffeured around in (I say chauffeured because we where told to always sit in the back seat, even if we are alone in the car, which is weird for a German, because here you usually sit next to the driver) and you really appreciate all the controls you have in the backseat. It made the 1.5 hour commute from my hotel to the different offices I needed to go very pleasant. Hell there was even a chilled bottle of water for me, every time I got into one of these cabs! The equus was the best one in overall comfort and ride quality. The vans of course had even more legroom, but since I’m short I didn’t care about it much and preferred the better suspension and smoother power delivery of the equus. So I guess what I’m trying to say, is that these cars are amazing to get driven around in and not to ride them yourself!
And not only that, but his odd complaint about the "single" hook in the back and only being able to carry one bag. You could easily get 3-4 bags of groceries on that anchor shape design.
Yeah, that sounds about right. Then you start hitting puberty and everything goes crazy. Like watching Big Mouth on Netflix (Obligatory NSFW warning, hide the kids because that show doesn't try to hide the awkwardness)
That'd be because the school environment has barely changed since *1760* What's 20 years in the scope of *260 YEARS OF STAGNATION?* School's stagnated more than a Ford Escape recieving throttle input.
@@lego4virgo I saw filthy rich version of Hyundai Sorento 2009 for 5k -ish. Its a 4x4 on a frame, reduction, LSD, and traction control run by comp. I wouldnt be able to get a Nissan X-Trail with none of these and powered by Renault engine. This here has a Mitsubishi 3,5 V6 with 200HP.
I remember reading “LaCroix tastes like someone thought about the flavor strawberry three blocks away from you” and that’s what this car seems like but what it must be like to drive a Mercedes
@@PhantasmPhoton: I don't eat flavor blasted ultra snacks and LaCroix still tastes like it was used to rinse-out a vat that previously contained a drink with flavor.
@@PhantasmPhoton LaCroix flavors taste like what soda fountain drinks taste like when the syrup bag is empty so it's plain seltzer water with a hint of Sprite or root beer taste
@@VersanGetryx I have known a couple of these types over the years of customer service call centre work. Dudes with no leadership skills but all the bravado while bragging about their "oriental conquests". Their large guts burned in my memory like the thought my position will soon be offshored.
@@Radi0he4d1 yeah my dad always said..first car should be big, slow and safe . That is why I had a 1987 Volvo. 114 hp and weighed 2 tons . 0-60…eventually
"Equus means 'horse', so let's put a goddamn bird on the badge" reminds me of my trip to Japan, where every other car has an inscrutable vanity badge (spoiler: they're all Toyotas)
It reminds me of the flaps in the airbox of the Audi S8 V10, they open when you stomp the throttle to allow more airflow in when at WOT, so that box makes sense. Likely doesn’t get a whole lot of flow until you’re stomping the gas and the regular air path isn’t quite enough to supply the engine with air. The filter is just because they weren’t able to package the piping into the regular airbox.
@@8draco8 not exactly, those flaps are in the intake plenum, and yeah they like to break, the ones I’m speaking of are actually on intake boxes. But, being German, they break too ;)
i guess, if you need a four door, it wouldn't be a bad car. depending on how reliable that motor and all the electronics are. but for 42 grand i would rather have a mustang gt/camaro ss.
Hyundai Equus, the official car of someone who aspires to be middle management. The guy who's favorite adjective for something good is "executive". It's so.... inoffensive looking.
@@WMMASceneNow Exactly, because to be seen in a German car would be considered a national insult. The Genesis G90 is its successor. In both cars the rear seat is the place to be. Those duplicate rear window controls are so Mister Bigshot can put down the opposite window. He can also control the audio system and HVAC from back there. It's a very comfy place to be.
@@michaelfjmusic the engine is almost bulletproof but the air suspension system might cost you some money down the road. Also beware of transmission slipping issues as some of the hyundai 8 speeds are prone to that.
No offense but isn't that what true full-sized luxury cars are supposed to be all about? Quiet and unintrusive to your thoughts/inner dialogue. . . Uncomplicated and not overly stimulating. . . Soft and comfortable. . . Barely noticeable, blends in regardless where you drive it. . . Formal. but not ritzy. . . A few gimmicks but only for the owners too enjoy. . . (I don't care for it either but I appreciated they tried. Most other manufacturers would've tried to make their new luxury car model loud and sporty. I think the only other companies offering true full-sized luxury cars is Rolls-Royce and Bentley. That's they way they should've marketed it.)
Or when they set it to either AC or heat in the morning and were unable to change it for the rest of the day for some reason. Chilly morning but scorching heat the rest of the day? Good luck sweating your balls off after 1st period.
10:29 it amazes me how much mr regular, who hasn’t been even close to being a child for over 2 decades, can perfectly encapsulate and express each and every aspect of the frustrations, feelings and general worldview of damn near every school kid ever so crazily accurately, bravo
Asians love their sun shades, In Japan it's Even legal to total blackout curtains, I'm not sure about Korea but it would not surprise me if they do it there as well.
When your English degree can't get you any other job than teaching high school in the same suburb you grew up in and you'd rather chew on a glock barrel than relive the same four years for the next three decades, you become Mr. Regular. Thank you for going the route less traveled!
@@factsmatter6980 Ironic this non-fact coming from someone with this name. It's an extremely rate car from any manufacturer that doesn't easily hit 100,000 miles. Modern Korean cars are perfectly credible.
@@michelangelo2200 Basically the mom, in order to avoid paying for a premium item, decides to offer the kid what she has at home, which is the cheaper price, cheaper quality item. Mom didn't want to buy a Mercedes-Benz, so she went with a Hyundai.
This car's the perfect chiller. Stealth motoring with straight line speed and comfy seats. When you want a Mercedes but you don't want people to know you have $$$
The Equus is a car for people who go to the racetrack, bet fifty dollars on a horse, and when the horse wins by the skin of its teeth, feel like they're some bigshot.
You're not wrong. I'm probably gonna get one of these cars later in life after my money market accounts actually start making me some profit. I dunno I just really like the Equus.
It's not a family car. It's an "executive car", meant to be bought by someone who is going to sit in the back while someone drives them around places. Far as I know, it's the predecessor of the Genesis G80. The whole thing is not designed for the driver, it's designed for the guy sitting in the back. If that guy wants to sleep, or read reports, or work on their laptop, or conduct meetings on their phone, or sleep on the way to or from the airport for yet another trip, that's what that car is for.
@@alastairward2774 Wife and I are looking at moving back to our hometown and helping out her grandparents. If we do, we are getting a G80 or GV80, because it's better for them as passengers.
@@luxurreview I thought the Genesis was the G70, and this was the G80-90. Either way, the luxury features at the modest price are nice. Hyundai has come a long way.
"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself." "He loved Big Hyundai."
I respect it for delivering 80-90% of the mercedes/BMW experience for 50% of the cost, while not having pants-on-head german overengineering. Even if it is boring. For the people who have a bit of money but for some reason are apathetic to cars and just want quiet, comfortable and understated. This fits the niche.
It's a a secondary air intake, either opened up in some vvt condition or more likely opened as a warm air intake in cold conditions. Lots of euro cars have them.
Why was he so confused by a second air intakes?seemed obviousl (although maybe unnecessary) but it’s a luxury car, and extra cabin air filters are pretty common
2015 Genesis owner here, I like mine. A 2017 C300 at the same price was more meh and I'm pleasantly surprised by the handling and how smooth it is up into 3-digit speeds.
Hay, just want to point out a few potential channel issues going on right now. The view count has been getting lower and unfortunately I personally haven't been getting any notifications, even though I'm a long time viewer. I'm worried that uploading the less viewed podcast episodes onto the channel is causing the algorithm to not send out as much or any content notifications. Please do what thesmokingtire did and consider creating a 2nd channel dedicated to the podcast. I really don't want to see RCR fall off the platform.
Lol, I unsubscribed years ago because of all the boring rambly videos. Occasionally, I still get the good stuff recommended to me though. The TH-cam algorithm really has gotten amazingly good in recent months.
@@Browningate "The TH-cam algorithm is amazingly good" is like "high school was an enjoyable experience and not stressful at all!" or "I love interacting with Comcast customer service!" It's a weird contradiction and everyone will assume you're a psychopath.
@@ileutur6863 No thanks! @Johnalogue - Try it for yourself. It's gotten weirdly good. Granted, as with any algorithm, it's only as good as its input. In other words, if you watch mostly stupid videos, the algorithm will suggest more stupid videos. "Stop hitting yourself."
"Everybody else is playing Super Nintendo, and I'm here in this cold building learning why I'm a bad kid" Dude... as a former catholic school student, who also had to go to CCD, that hit hard
We owned an equus for 100k miles. It was an EXCELLENT car. I mean it. Excellent. We came from a Lexus and we only missed the way the Lexus dealer treated us. Once the air suspension failed on the equus at 101k miles we traded it in for another Lexus. Still excellent car. We bought a genesis g80 because of how excellent the equus was.
The second filter is for the secondary plenum. Under hard acceleration it pulls more air from that box. Basically it functions like a janky variable intake runner, but without the extra cost of solinoids and stuff.
@@heitorbernardes7977 RWD isn’t enough to make a car fun. That just lets you put it sideways, which depending on the car can be a terrible experience. Nah, with 1,000 lbs lighter on the Equus and still around 300 hp, and non-softened, the Azera will feel like a sports car compared to this.
People always complaining about the "bland" look of the Equus but then drive off in their Camry, Altima or old Pick-Up Shitbox with an attitude, i really dont get it.
The Camry, Altima, or old pickup shitbox aren’t trying to look like a 100k s class. That’s the difference. They are perfect at being what they are, while this will only ever be compared to cars that it could never compare to.
In my country everyone drives a peugeot 107, toyota aygo, renault captur or any other faceless crossover. If we had this car over here it would be extremely cool. Bless yourselves in America that you can call a rear wheel drive car with a V8 and 400hp that's also 5+ metres long 'boring.'
I get you - as someone with similar things on the road around me - but... do you want (both drive and pay for) a 400hp V8 5m+ car in situations and for the purposes you'd normally use a Clio or a Peugeot 107?
@@EpicB Nope, the largest hyundai we get nowadays is the i30 station wagon, a far cry from the Genesis G70 even. I LOVE big cars, and I have an old Hyundai Grandeur (Azera in the U.S.), but I do pay about double/triple the road taxes that I would pay if I had a Peugeot 107 / Volkswagen Up. It is what it is, I'm not going to sacrifice my own driving pleasure that much just to save money on gas and taxes, but most people do (or have to).
@@raftermanhoward1883 Where I live we no longer get the Azera/Grandeur so the largest Hyundai we get is the Sonata, but we do get Genesis. City cars aren't much of a thing here, and small SUVs and the like are what's really popular now.
Hell, I come away from grocery trips with one bag all the time, a Square Enix branded reusable grocery bag that isn't even big. And I'm a bachelor that doesn't eat out every week.
I recently bought a 2010 Genesis 4.6 (fully loaded) off an older couple for $10K, with only 50K miles on it. It may be a "Mercedes for Hyundai money", but you really can't beat what you get for the money. They are extremely comfortable and sleepers to boot. They will smoke ecoboost mustangs, and can even keep it close with 5.0's. If you can find one in good condition I would highly recommend it.
thats so crazy man i cant even imagine spending 42k on what is now a 12k car in seattle. its an awesome car dont get me wrong but you get 90% of the experience from a $5,000 LS400
The Equus is the automotive equivalent of showing up to your first day of middle school wearing Fubu or AND1 running shoes. While all the cool kids rock up in their $100+ Nikes, and adidas. While they may look fine from 50feet away, the facade begins to fall apart upon closer inspection. This isn’t to say that the Equus is shit, its pretty good. It is just that when your competition is made up of companies that have built their reputation around being the best, being pretty good might as well be shit
I worked at Hyundai when these things came out. It's essentially a limo without the stretch, like an "Executive Luxury" car. It's built for the passengers in the back, and depending on what trim level you bought, it came with 2 "free" iPads. Between this and the Hyundai Genesis Sedan of the same year, most people opted for the Genesis due to A) the price point and B) Most people aren't chauffeurs. Now that I think about it, this is actually a great choice for Uber or Lyft.
@@chooseymomschoose I kinda figured a limousine was only a stretch limo, I would classify these as Executive Luxury. According to a quick Google search, what make it a limousine is almost any 4 door that has a chauffeur.
@@ScubaSteveM45 for 25k you can get a used benz, bimmer, or if your ballsy audi...with some spare change for all the "maintenance"...or an ls and money for a beater...how id do at least...
@Yule Calma Used Benz > Used Equus every time. I was talking about new MSRP for the Equus vs. new MSRP for an S-Class with all the same stuff seen on that Equus
@Yule Calma I agree. I'd still pick a used Mercedes over one of these. However if it came down do a used Equus like this vs. a regular new or used car I'd definitely pick the Equus instead
I had this car for 2 years then I switched to the G90. It really rides awesome. If you have no issues with the air suspension, The car rides almost as good as an S class
Which Equus did you have and which G90 do you have? Either way, how do they compare? I have a ‘14 Equus Ultimate, so I’m really interested in your thoughts on this.
1:33 no, The River is 97.3, i know that one by heart from a childhood spent in mom's minivan in southcentral PA! 99.3 used to be Kiss FM but is now "Alt 99.3"
Coming from a current Equus owner, this was a good watch and I’ll accept everything that was said 😂 Also, these cars are already dirt cheap and incredible value for the money, I got my 2012 for about 9k USD when they retailed for 62k USD just this past august and it had just a touch over 60k miles. More reliable than the competition (exception of the LS460) and you *will* get questions about what it is and looks. If you’re thinking about getting one, do it!
Hyundai Equus. Promoted by Hyundai as an "attainable luxury vehicle", the Equus is the perfect car for the middle manager who knows deep down he'll never be a senior executive but can't quite bring himself to admit it yet.
Everything you said about this car is the exact reason why I LOVE this car. For some reason, everybody wants some hyped-up Euro-thing or something Euro-ish, (nothing against the European cars) that is some sports luxury rocketship, or whatever. And, that's; if that's what you want, be all means. The Equus, to me, is what a luxury car is actually supposed to be, at least at the entry level. It's knows what it is, it's not trying to be anything else, and it doesn't apologize for it. No bells, no whistles (welll... maybe a few), just a straight-up comfortable people mover. What's wrong with that??
I'm sorry, but you tested the wrong model; the Ultimate trim level is the one to be in. The Ultimate is the perfect upper level car for middle or even upper management. It's quiet, smooth riding, yet, blends in with most other cars in traffic. It's about comfort, for rear passengers without drawing attention to yourself. It's a stealth management ride, a much better and sort of updated Korean version of the old executive fleet standby, the Lincoln Town car. A Lincoln Town car even when it was current, wasn't much better than the Ford Crown Vic that it was based upon. As someone who has driven a base edition S class for an executive car service, I can tell you that if your passengers didn't care about the badging on the vehicle, they would probably rather ride in Equus Ultimate than an S class sedan. Besides, I know how often the S class ended up in the shop for one reason or another...
Hyundai Equus: Official car of keeping dozens of old receipts in your wallet in case you need the part number for the universal remote you bought from Circuit City in 2006.
"Do I like teachers ranting to us in so many words about how their life would be better if it wasn't for us"? My days of coping with school perfectly summed up.
I'm pretty sure that the, "extra," intake air filter box is for high puddle hydrolock protection. The main air box likely is ducted to get fresh air fairly low on the car so if that duct gets submerged in a large puddle then the path of least pumping resistance is that high mounted secondary air box so you don't suck water into the engine.
I still want one. I’ve been looking for a good one since Hoovie had one. They depreciate hardcore and your 10k goal isn’t unrealistic. The 14s are hovering around that, and the last year, 2017, are hovering around 25-30k
Yeah I was thinking that when he was talking about the windows. This isn't a "family sedan" it's ment for "business men" to be chauffered from meeting to meeting to the air port, kinda like an S class. Which is also why it isn't "engaging to drive".
Those never made it to NA, but yeah, that part of the front passenger seat that popped out so the rear passenger could stretch out his legs- you know it’s a man doing that- was cool. But I didn’t like that it was a front wheel drive joint venture with Mitsubishi. Ugh.
These always remind me of those copyright-dodging mashup cars from GTA.
Hey man I fucks wit the coquette.
Sentinel is the shit.
Exactly! like those black mob cars in GTA 3
Jester was the shit.
Blista compact. Nothing else
“Regular car reviews” is increasingly getting frustrated by regular cars
Home of looks over form
HYUDAI is not "regular cars".
"Why does this regular old car not feel special?"
Well they are called that because they make regular car reviews not because they make regular car reviews.
HYUNDIE
This looks like the generic cars they use to decorate the levels in Call of Duty.
Yeah
😂😂😂. Perfect.!!!
What the Pontiac Beaumont was to the Chevrolet Chevelle
I swear the early 2010 and late 2000 CODs had a very obvious 7 Series as a civilian car
grand theft auto fakies
Your complaint over dual rear window switches is strange to me. Cars like this aren't supposed to have kids in the back, it's for transporting middle level execs.
More like high level executives. This is way beyond the pay grade of middle management. It's for high executives who need Korean cars to avoid national disgrace.
@@markmiller3279 It's not a personal car, this is the kind of thing that would be owned as a corporate vehicle for transporting people.
I think he means like important korean individuals want to be seen driving a domestic car rather than an import
I worked in Seoul for several months and my company didn’t want me to get a korean driver’s license since my project was just for this few months and there would be likely no follow up ever in Korea, so everywhere I went was in „business Taxis“.
We where told not to order regular old junk taxies, even if it was for just a ride from the hotel to the next BurgerKing (and I didn’t mind since my company paid all the cab rides without further questioning of it’s sense).
These rides where either this equus, another local luxury car which kinda looked also looked like a fake Mercedes or a 7 seater van with sliding doors, super comfortable captain chairs and amazing luxury interior.
These cars where so damn comfortable to get chauffeured around in (I say chauffeured because we where told to always sit in the back seat, even if we are alone in the car, which is weird for a German, because here you usually sit next to the driver) and you really appreciate all the controls you have in the backseat.
It made the 1.5 hour commute from my hotel to the different offices I needed to go very pleasant.
Hell there was even a chilled bottle of water for me, every time I got into one of these cabs!
The equus was the best one in overall comfort and ride quality.
The vans of course had even more legroom, but since I’m short I didn’t care about it much and preferred the better suspension and smoother power delivery of the equus.
So I guess what I’m trying to say, is that these cars are amazing to get driven around in and not to ride them yourself!
And not only that, but his odd complaint about the "single" hook in the back and only being able to carry one bag. You could easily get 3-4 bags of groceries on that anchor shape design.
It's reassuring to know that Mr. Regular's description of school is still valid at my school.
Yeah, that sounds about right. Then you start hitting puberty and everything goes crazy. Like watching Big Mouth on Netflix (Obligatory NSFW warning, hide the kids because that show doesn't try to hide the awkwardness)
He was a teacher for many years after all. Teaches know how much school sucks.
I teach as well... He's absolutely right 👍 Education these days is more like indoctrination rather than education.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
That'd be because the school environment has barely changed since *1760*
What's 20 years in the scope of *260 YEARS OF STAGNATION?*
School's stagnated more than a Ford Escape recieving throttle input.
It's invisible. It's quick. It's comfy.
It's *perfect*.
The ultimate getaway car!
Its gonna get crazy cheap crazy fast.
@@HanSolo__ I found some here in the DC area, with mileage, for $11K and under. I'm seriously considering it.
@@lego4virgo I saw filthy rich version of Hyundai Sorento 2009 for 5k -ish. Its a 4x4 on a frame, reduction, LSD, and traction control run by comp. I wouldnt be able to get a Nissan X-Trail with none of these and powered by Renault engine.
This here has a Mitsubishi 3,5 V6 with 200HP.
@@HanSolo__ that car comes with LSD? That's, like, groovy, man. Far out
I remember reading “LaCroix tastes like someone thought about the flavor strawberry three blocks away from you” and that’s what this car seems like but what it must be like to drive a Mercedes
your brain has just been crippled by years of flavor blasted ultra snacks. The longer you eat healthy the better LaCroix tastes.
@@PhantasmPhoton I just mean I remember a while ago seeing someone write that on Twitter or something and thinking it was funny
@@PhantasmPhoton: I don't eat flavor blasted ultra snacks and LaCroix still tastes like it was used to rinse-out a vat that previously contained a drink with flavor.
@@PhantasmPhoton LaCroix flavors taste like what soda fountain drinks taste like when the syrup bag is empty so it's plain seltzer water with a hint of Sprite or root beer taste
Type remy Lacroix in on Google you will thank me later
"I want an LS460 but I want even less people to notice me"
Helps when your rolling along at 120.
All the better for wildly exceeding the speed limit without anyone caring.
That’s exactly the point
The ls460 doesn't even turn that many heads. It's pretty bland itself
@@nolife1199 yes, that’s the joke.
Equus, the official car for call centre managers with hidden kinks and a weird fixation for Korean chicks on Bumble.
Huh........
This was too specific to conjure out of thin air, I like it... personal experience?
I know a couple of those, and you are dead on.
@@VersanGetryx I have known a couple of these types over the years of customer service call centre work. Dudes with no leadership skills but all the bravado while bragging about their "oriental conquests". Their large guts burned in my memory like the thought my position will soon be offshored.
Do I want to know what Bumble is?
All I know is, in 10 years from now, this is gonna be a middle class teenager's most awesome first/hand-me-down car ever.
From idiot parents. If I were 16 I’d be laying down mad patches with something like this. It’s 400 something horsepower.
@@2steaksandwiches665 This car is one pulled fuse away from becoming a torpedo in the wrong hands
@@Radi0he4d1 yeah my dad always said..first car should be big, slow and safe . That is why I had a 1987 Volvo. 114 hp and weighed 2 tons . 0-60…eventually
@@2steaksandwiches665429 hp top speed of 171. I wouldn't trust a teen with it lol
@@charliequaker5487 oh yeah, this is a car like when grandma dies and she gives it to you and your parents are ignorant on what it is
That odd air filter removes any remaining individuality.
I might be mistaken but isn't individuality being unique/odd ?
"Equus means 'horse', so let's put a goddamn bird on the badge" reminds me of my trip to Japan, where every other car has an inscrutable vanity badge (spoiler: they're all Toyotas)
Equine = Equus?
Put a bird on it
It’s the same as Acura for Honda and Lexus for Toyota. They gave it its own name and badge to separate it
@@WMMASceneNow grateful for the explanation 🙄
I think the badge is supposed to represent a Pegasus
EQUUS BABY I OWN A DENTAL FIRM THAT HAS OFFICES IN 2 DIFF COUNTIES
IM A REALTOR BABY THAT'S SUCCESSFUL SELLING "LUXURY" APARTMENTS (also knew a realtor that drove one of these)
My business cards are printed on stock so thick I use them to chip the ice off my windows
This comment 💀😩👋
inb4 one of the offices is in Point Roberts WA and the other is in Langley BC
dentists flexing.
'there's only one hook there'
Shows very clearly 2 hooks lol.
Mr. Regular seems to be one of those book smart/IRL bumblers that thinks but one bag is supposed to hang on the hook one handle for each side 😏🤫
@@ScubaSteveM45 all I gotta say is OIL
The bags hang there like BALLS
For eggs and bread I would use it
According to Equus's Korean Manual, that weird filter's name is "Chamber Air Cleaner". It was V8 exclusive.
It reminds me of the flaps in the airbox of the Audi S8 V10, they open when you stomp the throttle to allow more airflow in when at WOT, so that box makes sense. Likely doesn’t get a whole lot of flow until you’re stomping the gas and the regular air path isn’t quite enough to supply the engine with air. The filter is just because they weren’t able to package the piping into the regular airbox.
@@Tsuter1978 Oh so like those plastic "flaps" in BMWs intakes that like to break off and get sucked into the engine?
It's a cold air intake with it's own filter.
@@8draco8 not exactly, those flaps are in the intake plenum, and yeah they like to break, the ones I’m speaking of are actually on intake boxes. But, being German, they break too ;)
Mr. Regular doesn't know anything about cars and doesn't do enough research before his reviews unless it's a car he NUTS over.
all this talk of it being boring and "invisible" and comfy makes me want it more, you kidding me?
I do not envy you
That’s actually the mind set of most of its owners in Korea. It’s luxury for people who don’t need to show off their money.
Listening to this review and I’m like “it sounds like my dream car” 😂
yep, mr regular missing the point here
i guess, if you need a four door, it wouldn't be a bad car. depending on how reliable that motor and all the electronics are. but for 42 grand i would rather have a mustang gt/camaro ss.
The official car of some Korean Drama protagonist who have a crush for his female secretary.
Something something someone bumps their head and losses their memory.
Thats most of the Genesis lineup now, but still valid.
Korean drama makes these cars feel so badass
@@SpikeRazzor And then someone has cancer.
You mean all of them?
The design has aged incredibly well though, inside and out. The V8 has as well. Very desirable now.
no
@@dark6c159 ok :(
Hell yeah!! I have a 16 Equus and it is like sitting on your favorite recliner and driving in a vacuum
Mr. Regular is definitely turning into his dad.
Hopefully mister regular doesn’t fart up a chair so bad that he has to go out back and put lawnmower gasoline on it and set it on fire.
YOU DONT KNOW MY FATHER, I DONT KNOW MY FATHER
Weather channel, flying, complaining... it checks out.
Does his dad also have a TH-cam channel where he pretends to be an expert about things he lacks fundamental, basic understanding of?
@@CasperInkyMagoo please explain
The official car of "my hisense tv does everything your samsung does for a third the price, I can't even tell the difference!"
Hyundai Equus, the official car of someone who aspires to be middle management. The guy who's favorite adjective for something good is "executive". It's so.... inoffensive looking.
the official car of the 3 Korean kids that have a combined weight of 65kg at the gas station after dark wearing nothing Adidas gear
It’s actually the car most company presidents in Korea are chauffeured around in.
@@WMMASceneNow Exactly, because to be seen in a German car would be considered a national insult. The Genesis G90 is its successor. In both cars the rear seat is the place to be. Those duplicate rear window controls are so Mister Bigshot can put down the opposite window. He can also control the audio system and HVAC from back there. It's a very comfy place to be.
Korean middle management never bought the Equus. It was for CEOs and the Korean president.
I would rock it, and apologize to no one.
Its RWD
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 and?
Fuck yeah!!
@@SSC3034 and it being rwd would make want to buy it even more
I'd rock it too.
Damn, looking at listings, if you can get one of these with decent miles for $16k, seems like a fantastic car.
Paid 13k for mine. 60000 miles.
@@Privateering101 how's the reliability and maintenance cost? I heard that the engine is a bit pricey to maintain, is this true or no?
@@michaelfjmusic the engine is almost bulletproof but the air suspension system might cost you some money down the road. Also beware of transmission slipping issues as some of the hyundai 8 speeds are prone to that.
@Organic Iverson both
@Organic Iverson the only thing that is pretty much a guaranteed failure point is the air suspension
No offense but isn't that what true full-sized luxury cars are supposed to be all about?
Quiet and unintrusive to your thoughts/inner dialogue. . .
Uncomplicated and not overly stimulating. . .
Soft and comfortable. . .
Barely noticeable, blends in regardless where you drive it. . .
Formal. but not ritzy. . .
A few gimmicks but only for the owners too enjoy. . .
(I don't care for it either but I appreciated they tried. Most other manufacturers would've tried to make their new luxury car model loud and sporty. I think the only other companies offering true full-sized luxury cars is Rolls-Royce and Bentley. That's they way they should've marketed it.)
Correct. Germans/automotive journos have ruined the luxury experience in favor of everything being an M5
Equus is for someone who wants a 2008 Mercedes S class, but still is financially unstable enough to get a cold sweat thinking of GERMAN RELIABILITY.
honestly the cost of owning an out of warranty modern merc will make most people financially unstable
Its dramatically more the better buy in the end
I’d like to meet the man who’d welcome a random $7,500 repair bill. Probably share stock tips with him.
KOREAN RELIABILITY is not any better
@@factsmatter6980 uh
"Do I like classrooms that are air conditioned in the winter and heated in the summer?"
Ah yes, good to know my school wasn't the only one like that.
You guys had air conditioning?
Or when they set it to either AC or heat in the morning and were unable to change it for the rest of the day for some reason. Chilly morning but scorching heat the rest of the day? Good luck sweating your balls off after 1st period.
One year, I believe 2nd grade, if the heater was on, we couldn't hear the teacher. If the heater was off, we got cold.
Was stationed in Korea twice. I always liked the Equus.
Same. The preferred staff car of general officers, along with the SSangyong Chairman
10:29 it amazes me how much mr regular, who hasn’t been even close to being a child for over 2 decades, can perfectly encapsulate and express each and every aspect of the frustrations, feelings and general worldview of damn near every school kid ever so crazily accurately, bravo
american school system really fucks a man up
Its the trauma
He was or still is a teacher, so he's seen both sides of the vile institutions.
@@timewave02012 Was. This has been his full-time gig for a few years.
Okay but that rear sunshade is cool as hell
Asians love their sun shades, In Japan it's Even legal to total blackout curtains, I'm not sure about Korea but it would not surprise me if they do it there as well.
Eh. 2001 5 series had that
@@CommodoreFan64 most places in the US they could give two shits if the back window is blacked out..
The Azera had it too
Also copied. It’s the cargo cult of cars.
Hyundai Equus: The official car of ordering a water with lemon in it.
Those lemons have been on the floor before multiple times before they get into your water.
Remember that when you get passed by one
"I keep my dad jokes fresh in case a condom breaks..." LOL
When your English degree can't get you any other job than teaching high school in the same suburb you grew up in and you'd rather chew on a glock barrel than relive the same four years for the next three decades, you become Mr. Regular. Thank you for going the route less traveled!
This is the quintessential Korean executive sedan
saw one of these in Koreatown and was confused, I didn't know what it was
Maybe I'm just getting old but I like it
Agreed classy well built car.
I seen one in person and I was wondering what it was because of the bird and wings.... Definitely great Price for the year
Someone should Cannonball in an Equus, it's camouflaged from the factory.
Old comment however i just want to say that this is a Good idea
I look at the equus and say: "huh... so that's the kia k900's successful cousin..."
k900 came after the equus
@@pineapplevlogs1267 exactly
is this hoovie farah’s million mile equus?
No. It's his Lada.
Most korean cars dont even reach 100,000.
My Hyundai Tucson is sitting at just under 214,000 miles.
Yes. And now he will go over it’s quirks and features. Then he will give it a Doug score.
@@factsmatter6980 Ironic this non-fact coming from someone with this name. It's an extremely rate car from any manufacturer that doesn't easily hit 100,000 miles. Modern Korean cars are perfectly credible.
Me: Hey Mom, can I have a Mercedes
Mom: We already have a Mercedes at Home
The Mercedes at Home:
i do not understand this joke.
@@michelangelo2200 Basically the mom, in order to avoid paying for a premium item, decides to offer the kid what she has at home, which is the cheaper price, cheaper quality item. Mom didn't want to buy a Mercedes-Benz, so she went with a Hyundai.
Wait, there's a fetish con in St Petersburg?
Shit, I've lived here all my life and missed every single one.
Down in Bradenton I never heard of it either
Are we turning the next one into an RCR meetup?
Oh it's a hoot!
I've lived my whole life in Seminole and I never knew about it either!
He's obviously talking about St. Petersburg, Florida.
I'd rather get this than an S class of the same year.
Poor reliability
@@Regal1999The S Class or the Equus, both are solid.
Hyundai Equus: the official car of being so boring that it reminds you a little too much of the parts of your childhood that were equally as boring.
This category should be about comfort and reliability. Excitement is irrelevant.
This car's the perfect chiller. Stealth motoring with straight line speed and comfy seats. When you want a Mercedes but you don't want people to know you have $$$
That’s why a lot of both business owners and mob bosses in Korea have them
@@WMMASceneNow As far as mob bosses go, they have good taste in cars
I don't know, the Spirit of Porg on the front kinda gives it away.
6:11 'There's just one hook there'...
Hmm....
I clearly learned math different
Maybe he thinks you put one handle on each side? He is some sort of alien after all.
@@AgtWashingtub you loop the bag handle around the center piece so when you drive it doesn't slip off, so it is one hook
@@jawsome2049 but couldn’t you hang one bag on one side and another bag on the other?
You could also hang multiple bags with the handles on each side.
@@jama211 they would slip off on a corner..
This is a car for people who think they’re rich because they “invested”
*_STONKS!_*
The Equus is a car for people who go to the racetrack, bet fifty dollars on a horse, and when the horse wins by the skin of its teeth, feel like they're some bigshot.
You're not wrong. I'm probably gonna get one of these cars later in life after my money market accounts actually start making me some profit. I dunno I just really like the Equus.
It's not a family car. It's an "executive car", meant to be bought by someone who is going to sit in the back while someone drives them around places. Far as I know, it's the predecessor of the Genesis G80. The whole thing is not designed for the driver, it's designed for the guy sitting in the back. If that guy wants to sleep, or read reports, or work on their laptop, or conduct meetings on their phone, or sleep on the way to or from the airport for yet another trip, that's what that car is for.
Like a Toyota Century, looks splendid but then I realise if I ever got one it would be my passengers who'd benefit and not me.
@@alastairward2774 Wife and I are looking at moving back to our hometown and helping out her grandparents. If we do, we are getting a G80 or GV80, because it's better for them as passengers.
It’s the predecessor of the Genesis G90. The Hyundai Genesis was the predecessor to the Genesis G80.
@@luxurreview I thought the Genesis was the G70, and this was the G80-90.
Either way, the luxury features at the modest price are nice. Hyundai has come a long way.
Actually, this is the predecessor of the G90. The Genesis G80 is the one formerly known as the Hyundai Genesis.
So it's fast but easily overlooked? Sounds like a great car for wildly exceeding the speed limit while commuting to work.
It is! And does it without even caring, all while you’re cocooned in a plush cabin getting a heated back massage. Nobody even bats an eye.
"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself."
"He loved Big Hyundai."
Double plus goodthinkful!
I respect it for delivering 80-90% of the mercedes/BMW experience for 50% of the cost, while not having pants-on-head german overengineering. Even if it is boring. For the people who have a bit of money but for some reason are apathetic to cars and just want quiet, comfortable and understated. This fits the niche.
It's a a secondary air intake, either opened up in some vvt condition or more likely opened as a warm air intake in cold conditions. Lots of euro cars have them.
Why was he so confused by a second air intakes?seemed obviousl (although maybe unnecessary) but it’s a luxury car, and extra cabin air filters are pretty common
@@shawnpepin7890 I had never seen one either. Maybe I'm just too poor to be aware of such luxuries. Seems like a really smart concept though!
I drive Equus' smaller cousin, the Genesis. There is a certain appeal in driving a GTA car.
Modern GTA has better design than this.
2015 Genesis owner here, I like mine. A 2017 C300 at the same price was more meh and I'm pleasantly surprised by the handling and how smooth it is up into 3-digit speeds.
@@catfish552 Genesis/Equus came out in 2009, they are gta 4 cars (handle similarly, esp in a drift lmao)
Hay, just want to point out a few potential channel issues going on right now. The view count has been getting lower and unfortunately I personally haven't been getting any notifications, even though I'm a long time viewer. I'm worried that uploading the less viewed podcast episodes onto the channel is causing the algorithm to not send out as much or any content notifications. Please do what thesmokingtire did and consider creating a 2nd channel dedicated to the podcast. I really don't want to see RCR fall off the platform.
Lol, I unsubscribed years ago because of all the boring rambly videos. Occasionally, I still get the good stuff recommended to me though. The TH-cam algorithm really has gotten amazingly good in recent months.
@@Browningate Fuck off for good then. Most of us are here for the rambling
@@Browningate "The TH-cam algorithm is amazingly good" is like "high school was an enjoyable experience and not stressful at all!" or "I love interacting with Comcast customer service!"
It's a weird contradiction and everyone will assume you're a psychopath.
@@ileutur6863 No thanks!
@Johnalogue - Try it for yourself. It's gotten weirdly good. Granted, as with any algorithm, it's only as good as its input. In other words, if you watch mostly stupid videos, the algorithm will suggest more stupid videos. "Stop hitting yourself."
"Everybody else is playing Super Nintendo, and I'm here in this cold building learning why I'm a bad kid"
Dude... as a former catholic school student, who also had to go to CCD, that hit hard
the whole video i'm hearing bad things being said about this car but at the same time, i'm kinda drooling over it. i love how it looks inside and out.
Looks better than the new ones. Now it seems change for change sake.
We owned an equus for 100k miles. It was an EXCELLENT car. I mean it. Excellent. We came from a Lexus and we only missed the way the Lexus dealer treated us. Once the air suspension failed on the equus at 101k miles we traded it in for another Lexus. Still excellent car. We bought a genesis g80 because of how excellent the equus was.
I’ve always pronounced it Eck-wis. Don’t forget the roots with their old offering the XG300 series in America.
XG300L was my first car, best shitbox first car EVER!
NormileGuy dude same! Everyone thought I was so ballin in high school
@@Jmansummers xg350 was awful, The mirrors same as the tiburon,
@@signlsirchir2156 sounds like the Oldsmobile Alero headlights on some UPS trucks. I cannot look at them the same anymore.
I remember renting an XG300 back in 2001, for a front driver, it wasn't bad I guess
Sounds like someone is a recovering catholic.
I felt that rant so hard lol
You never fully recover from cathoholism.
@@deusexaethera thats why i say recovering
You may recover from the alcoholism, but the catholicism lingers way past your 10-year coin on your 40th birthday.
I'll drink to that.
*this car is boring*
Well yea its a luxury car, it's not meant to be exciting. It's meant to be comfortable
The second filter is for the secondary plenum. Under hard acceleration it pulls more air from that box. Basically it functions like a janky variable intake runner, but without the extra cost of solinoids and stuff.
For a long time now I've wanted a Hyundai Azera, but I'm switching to this.
Or wait another year or two and pick up a Genesis product for cheap (Hyundai/Kia's new attempt at luxury vehicles)
Despite the smaller engine the Azera would probably be more fun to drive
The azera is FWD, so no no
@@air-headedaviator1805
So was integra type R (one of the most fun cars of all time)
@@heitorbernardes7977 RWD isn’t enough to make a car fun. That just lets you put it sideways, which depending on the car can be a terrible experience. Nah, with 1,000 lbs lighter on the Equus and still around 300 hp, and non-softened, the Azera will feel like a sports car compared to this.
People always complaining about the "bland" look of the Equus but then drive off in their Camry, Altima or old Pick-Up Shitbox with an attitude, i really dont get it.
The Camry, Altima, or old pickup shitbox aren’t trying to look like a 100k s class. That’s the difference. They are perfect at being what they are, while this will only ever be compared to cars that it could never compare to.
This car in dry conditions is AMAZING.
This car is like the "premium" lounge you pay $16 to get into when you fly economy.
In my country everyone drives a peugeot 107, toyota aygo, renault captur or any other faceless crossover. If we had this car over here it would be extremely cool. Bless yourselves in America that you can call a rear wheel drive car with a V8 and 400hp that's also 5+ metres long 'boring.'
I get you - as someone with similar things on the road around me - but... do you want (both drive and pay for) a 400hp V8 5m+ car in situations and for the purposes you'd normally use a Clio or a Peugeot 107?
Do you get the Genesis brand where you live?
@@EpicB Nope, the largest hyundai we get nowadays is the i30 station wagon, a far cry from the Genesis G70 even. I LOVE big cars, and I have an old Hyundai Grandeur (Azera in the U.S.), but I do pay about double/triple the road taxes that I would pay if I had a Peugeot 107 / Volkswagen Up. It is what it is, I'm not going to sacrifice my own driving pleasure that much just to save money on gas and taxes, but most people do (or have to).
@@raftermanhoward1883 Where I live we no longer get the Azera/Grandeur so the largest Hyundai we get is the Sonata, but we do get Genesis. City cars aren't much of a thing here, and small SUVs and the like are what's really popular now.
This car has all the right ingredients ... But they we prepared without a final thought given to the end dish
Gold foiled kimchi served in polished wooden bowl in high end restaurant
GOLD diarrhea.
a car for value-conscious people who crave luxury but don't actually like cars.
The last shot was perfect, I forget what it looked like as soon as it left the frame.
It’s like an invisibility cloak sick as fuck
the confirmation church section gave me legitimate flashbacks, you activated a part of my brain I forgot about and now it wants me to yell too
"And I can't think of many times I've gone grocery shopping and only got one bag." This man has no baby or baby momma.
Also, I see that as two hooks, not one, and you can crowd multiple bags onto each side of the thing.
Hell, I come away from grocery trips with one bag all the time, a Square Enix branded reusable grocery bag that isn't even big. And I'm a bachelor that doesn't eat out every week.
probably just use it for the fragiles, eg eggs, breads
@@nicholaycalhoun1681 Bread is fragile now?
@@EmyrDerfel i mean you can still squash it if you have heavier shit like milk and take a turn faster than you should be
I recently bought a 2010 Genesis 4.6 (fully loaded) off an older couple for $10K, with only 50K miles on it. It may be a "Mercedes for Hyundai money", but you really can't beat what you get for the money. They are extremely comfortable and sleepers to boot. They will smoke ecoboost mustangs, and can even keep it close with 5.0's. If you can find one in good condition I would highly recommend it.
thats so crazy man i cant even imagine spending 42k on what is now a 12k car in seattle. its an awesome car dont get me wrong but you get 90% of the experience from a $5,000 LS400
The Equus is the automotive equivalent of showing up to your first day of middle school wearing Fubu or AND1 running shoes. While all the cool kids rock up in their $100+ Nikes, and adidas. While they may look fine from 50feet away, the facade begins to fall apart upon closer inspection. This isn’t to say that the Equus is shit, its pretty good. It is just that when your competition is made up of companies that have built their reputation around being the best, being pretty good might as well be shit
This is highly accurate and a very apt metaphor for this car.
I worked at Hyundai when these things came out. It's essentially a limo without the stretch, like an "Executive Luxury" car. It's built for the passengers in the back, and depending on what trim level you bought, it came with 2 "free" iPads. Between this and the Hyundai Genesis Sedan of the same year, most people opted for the Genesis due to A) the price point and B) Most people aren't chauffeurs. Now that I think about it, this is actually a great choice for Uber or Lyft.
It is a limo. A limo with the stretch is a ... stretch limo. A8, S class, 7 series, G90 - all limos.
@@chooseymomschoose A8L S-class L 7sereis long is strech limo or limo??
@@chooseymomschoose I kinda figured a limousine was only a stretch limo, I would classify these as Executive Luxury. According to a quick Google search, what make it a limousine is almost any 4 door that has a chauffeur.
Beautiful closing shot, the way it just drives off into the snow covered hills. Also the closing song was so heart felt. Outstanding work, RCR!
This and the Genesis sedan are amazing bargain used cars. Most of the luxury you'll ever need, and more reliable than any German car.
Mr. Regular your bit ~11:25 about "do you like school" has to be one of your best pieces of work yet! A timeless classic :)
The crazy thing about the Equus
They’re cheap dirt cheap
The ones I saw were 25 k. Is that dirt cheap?
@@ramadjones Compared to a Mercedes S550 or a Maybach with similar options yes it's quite the deal.
@@ScubaSteveM45 for 25k you can get a used benz, bimmer, or if your ballsy audi...with some spare change for all the "maintenance"...or an ls and money for a beater...how id do at least...
@Yule Calma Used Benz > Used Equus every time. I was talking about new MSRP for the Equus vs. new MSRP for an S-Class with all the same stuff seen on that Equus
@Yule Calma I agree. I'd still pick a used Mercedes over one of these. However if it came down do a used Equus like this vs. a regular new or used car I'd definitely pick the Equus instead
I had this car for 2 years then I switched to the G90. It really rides awesome. If you have no issues with the air suspension, The car rides almost as good as an S class
Which Equus did you have and which G90 do you have? Either way, how do they compare? I have a ‘14 Equus Ultimate, so I’m really interested in your thoughts on this.
I’m so grateful no one cares about this car, I love it and I’m gonna buy it as soon as I can, thank you all
1:33 no, The River is 97.3, i know that one by heart from a childhood spent in mom's minivan in southcentral PA! 99.3 used to be Kiss FM but is now "Alt 99.3"
Coming from a current Equus owner, this was a good watch and I’ll accept everything that was said 😂
Also, these cars are already dirt cheap and incredible value for the money, I got my 2012 for about 9k USD when they retailed for 62k USD just this past august and it had just a touch over 60k miles. More reliable than the competition (exception of the LS460) and you *will* get questions about what it is and looks. If you’re thinking about getting one, do it!
Hyundai Equus. Promoted by Hyundai as an "attainable luxury vehicle", the Equus is the perfect car for the middle manager who knows deep down he'll never be a senior executive but can't quite bring himself to admit it yet.
Which is why I’m picking up a 2013 this weekend.
Everything you said about this car is the exact reason why I LOVE this car. For some reason, everybody wants some hyped-up Euro-thing or something Euro-ish, (nothing against the European cars) that is some sports luxury rocketship, or whatever. And, that's; if that's what you want, be all means. The Equus, to me, is what a luxury car is actually supposed to be, at least at the entry level. It's knows what it is, it's not trying to be anything else, and it doesn't apologize for it. No bells, no whistles (welll... maybe a few), just a straight-up comfortable people mover. What's wrong with that??
Every once in a while Regular puts out a video that makes it clear that these men haven't grown up.
I'm a simple man, I hear LS400, and I'm interested.
I'm sorry, but you tested the wrong model; the Ultimate trim level is the one to be in.
The Ultimate is the perfect upper level car for middle or even upper management. It's quiet, smooth riding, yet, blends in with most other cars in traffic.
It's about comfort, for rear passengers without drawing attention to yourself. It's a stealth management ride, a much better and sort of updated Korean version of the old executive fleet standby, the Lincoln Town car.
A Lincoln Town car even when it was current, wasn't much better than the Ford Crown Vic that it was based upon.
As someone who has driven a base edition S class for an executive car service, I can tell you that if your passengers didn't care about the badging on the vehicle, they would probably rather ride in Equus Ultimate than an S class sedan.
Besides, I know how often the S class ended up in the shop for one reason or another...
I can’t get an eriction
Try driving a 2001 Pontiac Aztek
@@Nismoronic He wants an erection, not a penile explosion!
Have you tried watching Spartacus?
My cook is steamed.
Hyundai Equus: Official car of keeping dozens of old receipts in your wallet in case you need the part number for the universal remote you bought from Circuit City in 2006.
"Do I like teachers ranting to us in so many words about how their life would be better if it wasn't for us"? My days of coping with school perfectly summed up.
I'm pretty sure that the, "extra," intake air filter box is for high puddle hydrolock protection. The main air box likely is ducted to get fresh air fairly low on the car so if that duct gets submerged in a large puddle then the path of least pumping resistance is that high mounted secondary air box so you don't suck water into the engine.
Hyundai EQUUS, the official car of HerbaLife and Kyani sales “reps”.
excuse you, it's spelled "client manager"
@@StevenHatesCars Lol
I still want one. I’ve been looking for a good one since Hoovie had one. They depreciate hardcore and your 10k goal isn’t unrealistic. The 14s are hovering around that, and the last year, 2017, are hovering around 25-30k
No mention of the car being designed for executive purpose not family.
Yeah I was thinking that when he was talking about the windows. This isn't a "family sedan" it's ment for "business men" to be chauffered from meeting to meeting to the air port, kinda like an S class. Which is also why it isn't "engaging to drive".
I have 2016 of this car and bmw 750,my bmw died while I’m still on 214k miles on my Equus ,name kills vibe,I’m getting the 2020 g90,I love it
Ironically, same here... my 07’ BMW 750 Li started burning oil and smoking at idle only 107k miles 🤦🏻♂️ Had to sell it
When I lived in Korea in 2005, the these were everywhere in Seoul. The older ones look better.
Those never made it to NA, but yeah, that part of the front passenger seat that popped out so the rear passenger could stretch out his legs- you know it’s a man doing that- was cool. But I didn’t like that it was a front wheel drive joint venture with Mitsubishi. Ugh.
The Equus is one of those Korean cars you'd never see on TV outside of product placement, but is the first thing you see when you land in Seoul.
This car is the third car owned my the second daughter of a teen dad, who saw early the value of stability, the illusion of stability.
It's kinda strange that everytime when I wake up at 4 AM to get ready for work there's always a new video popping up. And I like it 😎😎😎😎
Contour ooooh
This isn't your average, everyday regular
This is... *ADVANCED* *REGULAR*
These are one hell of a bargain on the used market!
Not now. I just paid $29,999 for a 2014 with 14k miles. Ultimate. I got hosed but they’re selling so fast I jumped on this one ASAP.