Something that helped me when shooting, was putting thin strips of masking tape over the viewfinder to outline exactly what would be exposed when loaded with 35mm. I most often found myself holding the camera sideways and taking amazing landscapes. You'll have to let the people developing the film know what you've done, because although they can develop it, scanning it can be a lot of extra work.
Ooooooo not to be annoying but you can actually get 620 film from B&H (it definitely is a little pricey though) I actually just picked up a roll of 620 for this old Kodak Tourist camera. Mr Jacob showed me that paper thing a while back when I messed with 35mm on 120. But that marker thing is really dope!! Feels like it gives you wayyy more precision than what I was doing haha. THAT PIKACHU SHOT BRO. That door at 7:09 is rad.
I did see that 620 is still technically being produced while I was editing the video. I searched for a long add time before finding one small company that does limited runs ... which to me is as good as dead hahah. Dude that Pika pic was an homage to our gameboy shoot!
I did this spacing marker trick on a camera once, worked great, but ended up selling it. Now I use my Yashica Mat 124-G TLR to do essentially what you're doing with the 620 camera. I love making sprocket hole photography. I've already made 6 comedic youtube shorts about doing it. Love the lofi look man. You gotta embrace the imperfections when shooting film, and doing this hack is a great way to lean further into that. Thank you so much for sharing. Subscribed!
Nice job. Great vid. Super helpful on locking down the "how many turns" question. And also you can now get little adapters on eBay, like little bushings made out of plastic that adapts the 35mm film canister to the 120mm or 620mm film chambers. They're only a few bucks. There's also a lot of very old, but cool... "6 x 9" format 120mm bellows type cameras, like the 1930s Zeiss Nettar that are inexpensive on eBay ($50), but have a superior lens. The Nettar yields a HUGE panorama. Finally, if you don't wish to mess with any of this stuff, but love sprockets, you can go with Lomography's new camera, the native 35mm: "Sprocket Rocket", which is about $75 on Amazon or at Lomography's website. I would suggest people go your route, with a quality old camera; because, not only are they a blast to shoot, and usually draws a crowd, but the lens is almost always infinitely better than what is found new in the plastic lens fuzzy "Lomo" world.
Cool hack - love the kitchen shot at 7:03. I’m going to add this hack to my ever growing to-do list - I’ve got a Duaflex IV that’s been a shelf queen for way too long.
Thank you! My Duaflex is a fairly new addition via thrift shop a couple weeks ago. I’ve had an old 1919 Kodak Pocket No.1 sitting around since 2018, and this is the perfect way to practice and find light leaks before trying 120.
So what you didn't explain was how you take the film out of the camera. Do you put it in a changing bag and hand roll it back into the canister, or put it directly onto a developing reel?
Hi Jay, thanks for pointing that out! I think I removed that portion because the video was running 10+ minutes. But yes, the film must be removed in the absence of light, because it would otherwise be completely exposed as soon as you open the back. I personally just went directly from camera to the darkroom.
I literally was searching the comments for that answer. I just acquired a Duaflex IV and was disappointed that I can't get the film for it. I'll have to try this.
@@nicholasmonteleone did you end up finding a way to get the film back into the canister? i also just bought a duaflexIV ! but also if you haven't seen it yet, 120 film with a little bit of modification works well in 620.
Putting things into other things that wasn't supposed to be in is always fun. I mean 35mm film in 620 :P I do it on my RZ67 which is 120 film camera, and that juicy cinematic shot is always fun. also if you have access to 3D printer these process would be little easier. btw, your production quality deserves more than 10K, hope you get that number soon.
I really appreciate the support throughout the years man! I gotta clean the fungus off the internal element of this lens and hopefully next time get some sharp shots.
Enjoy the video, loved the paper marking tip, just tried it out on two of my TLR's works to a tea. Now to get some 35mm film to try in them. Thank you.
I just picked up an ansco panda from a flea market for $6 and want to shoot with it. I didn't realize the takeup spool was removable, this makes it a lot easier to make center aligning spacers for the 35mm cartridge since the panda loads/feeds horizontally instead of vertically. I was advised by a fellow camera nerd about blocking the red window, and I was planning to make exactly the same mistake you made and use gaffers tape. Now I know better. Thanks!
Very resourceful! Another way I've went about using medium format with 135 is to cut out a piece of black card with a 35mm frame hole and secure that in the camera in front of the film, to get "normal sized" exposures, but with the characteristics of the medium format lens. This method also prevents the film curling and distorting the focal plane, I recommend you try it sometime!
Interesting, I'll have to give that a try! I like the panoramic-feel, but I could give up the sprocket holes being exposed if it meant preserving the focus across the frame.
I dont collect cameras[...yet haha], but always nice to watch videos about old cameras... sometimes we see people complaining about 'digital' cameras and just look how hard was for oldtimes photographers to set the gear for a photoshoot 😄 ... great video JT!👍
I have massive respect for analog photographers after shooting and developing film. It’s such a great experience and I’d recommend it to anyone that really wants to expand their horizons.
I have a Lubitel 1 TLR and a 35mm canister will not fit in the bottom. You would have to get the adapters to adapt in a roll of 35 mm that you would have to roll in a dark room so that you could actually use it.
I'll need to remember this trick. I'm getting a No. 4 Cartridge Kodak, which takes 104 rollfilm. Can't find that. But I got an adapter on eBay so I could use 120 on it. The trick is, like you say, figuring out when I've reached the next exposure. I've got a roll of expired 120, and I'm going to jot down how long it takes to reach the next exposure, but I won't like and say I'm not nervous about the whole process. This could help! Any suggestions you might have, I'd be grateful for them!
@@RunNGunPhoto I hope so. I mean, the worst that happens is I take some goofy pictures and double expose some shots with a camera from 1897. That's FINE.
@@BrooklynJackBlue Haha if you get a half-legible exposure from a camera that's a century old... I would consider that a win no matter what! Definitely share your results!!
I got one of those Kodak Duaflex IV camera when I was a teen, it was my dad who gave it ti me in 1978. Yeah it was a 620 mm and was still available back then but only in a very limited choice. But here the way I've solved the problem: 620 film had metallic spool alright, but still uses the same width of a 120 mm (2-1/4")film witch have plastic spool though. Yip the width is a bit larger so it does not fit inside a 620 camera. So the way to still use it was to use a portable dark room or get inside a very dark closet and, in order, reel up the 120 film to an empty spool to then reel it up back to a 620 spool. And there it is, a 620 film ready to use. But be careful only use 120 mm and not 220. Trust me, 120 mm film are still available, you will see the pose number in the amber window and it works just fine.
I have a kodak duaflex ii (almost identical to this one) and the 35mm cartridge seems too big to fit. Did yours feel the same? I don't want to force the door shut and break something.
@@RunNGunPhoto thanks for replying. I read this recently: "620 spools are 22.5mm in diameter and 120 spools (and 35mm film canisters) are 25mm in diameter, so this might not fit in some 620 cameras."
620 film is just 120 film with a narrower spool, just clip the rim of the 120 spool and it'll fit. it was invented by kodak to seel more cameras and film.
When you can’t advance to the next frame, you’ve reached the end of the roll haha You can only wind the roll so far. Fun fact, the 24 and 36 are just estimates, I am usually able to fit 2-3 extra shots on a roll if you wind it right.
@@canoksas2979 No problem! Film is just a completely blank roll, and the exposures start when you close the back of your camera and start cranking the winding knob - it can vary a little bit for each roll your shoot. Like I said above, i try not to waste a lot of slack winding it up, so I can squeeze a couple more exposure on a roll. I've fit 40 shots on a 36-exposure roll before!
you can sectrety add film guide rails using strips of rigid thin plastic or metal to keep the film flush and not curling, but i actually think it's not necessary, and having the image print over the sprocket holes and be imperfect looks nice. if you shoot color, you have to completely block that red window. certain black and white films can't see that red light, but color films can.
You don't need an actual film "darkroom". You can do this very easily in a closet/room with the lights off, or film changing bag: amzn.to/2VyhpGU It literally takes 2 minutes, it's not as difficult as you're making it sound.
Something that helped me when shooting, was putting thin strips of masking tape over the viewfinder to outline exactly what would be exposed when loaded with 35mm. I most often found myself holding the camera sideways and taking amazing landscapes. You'll have to let the people developing the film know what you've done, because although they can develop it, scanning it can be a lot of extra work.
Very true! I develop and scan my own film, I didn’t think about that. Thanks for the insight!
The film photography project is actually started making new 620 film for this cameras I'm planning to buy some for mine at some point in the future
That's awesome! I have about a dozen 620 cameras sitting on my shelf which I'd love to shoot!
You can buy or make the 35 mm to 620 film roll adapters, also black electrical tape twice over the film window works really well.
Thanks for the tip Pedro!
Ooooooo not to be annoying but you can actually get 620 film from B&H (it definitely is a little pricey though) I actually just picked up a roll of 620 for this old Kodak Tourist camera. Mr Jacob showed me that paper thing a while back when I messed with 35mm on 120. But that marker thing is really dope!! Feels like it gives you wayyy more precision than what I was doing haha. THAT PIKACHU SHOT BRO. That door at 7:09 is rad.
I did see that 620 is still technically being produced while I was editing the video. I searched for a long add time before finding one small company that does limited runs ... which to me is as good as dead hahah. Dude that Pika pic was an homage to our gameboy shoot!
@@RunNGunPhoto next collab on 620??? I'll pick up a few rolls... I also found out they made a gameboy camera for the much newer gameboy advance ;)
Oh hell yeah!
These look great, they add a certain aesthetic.
It's not perfect, but it's definitely a unique analog look.
I did this spacing marker trick on a camera once, worked great, but ended up selling it. Now I use my Yashica Mat 124-G TLR to do essentially what you're doing with the 620 camera. I love making sprocket hole photography. I've already made 6 comedic youtube shorts about doing it. Love the lofi look man. You gotta embrace the imperfections when shooting film, and doing this hack is a great way to lean further into that. Thank you so much for sharing. Subscribed!
Nice job. Great vid. Super helpful on locking down the "how many turns" question. And also you can now get little adapters on eBay, like little bushings made out of plastic that adapts the 35mm film canister to the 120mm or 620mm film chambers. They're only a few bucks. There's also a lot of very old, but cool... "6 x 9" format 120mm bellows type cameras, like the 1930s Zeiss Nettar that are inexpensive on eBay ($50), but have a superior lens. The Nettar yields a HUGE panorama. Finally, if you don't wish to mess with any of this stuff, but love sprockets, you can go with Lomography's new camera, the native 35mm: "Sprocket Rocket", which is about $75 on Amazon or at Lomography's website. I would suggest people go your route, with a quality old camera; because, not only are they a blast to shoot, and usually draws a crowd, but the lens is almost always infinitely better than what is found new in the plastic lens fuzzy "Lomo" world.
I’m definitely not a lomo guy myself. I think their stuff is fun, but that kind of fun gets expensive for, like you said, fuzzy images.
Cool hack - love the kitchen shot at 7:03. I’m going to add this hack to my ever growing to-do list - I’ve got a Duaflex IV that’s been a shelf queen for way too long.
Thank you! My Duaflex is a fairly new addition via thrift shop a couple weeks ago. I’ve had an old 1919 Kodak Pocket No.1 sitting around since 2018, and this is the perfect way to practice and find light leaks before trying 120.
So what you didn't explain was how you take the film out of the camera. Do you put it in a changing bag and hand roll it back into the canister, or put it directly onto a developing reel?
Hi Jay, thanks for pointing that out! I think I removed that portion because the video was running 10+ minutes.
But yes, the film must be removed in the absence of light, because it would otherwise be completely exposed as soon as you open the back.
I personally just went directly from camera to the darkroom.
I literally was searching the comments for that answer. I just acquired a Duaflex IV and was disappointed that I can't get the film for it. I'll have to try this.
Good luck! Be sure to share your results!
@@nicholasmonteleone did you end up finding a way to get the film back into the canister? i also just bought a duaflexIV ! but also if you haven't seen it yet, 120 film with a little bit of modification works well in 620.
Putting things into other things that wasn't supposed to be in is always fun.
I mean 35mm film in 620 :P
I do it on my RZ67 which is 120 film camera, and that juicy cinematic shot is always fun. also if you have access to 3D printer these process would be little easier.
btw, your production quality deserves more than 10K, hope you get that number soon.
I really appreciate the support throughout the years man! I gotta clean the fungus off the internal element of this lens and hopefully next time get some sharp shots.
So doing this thanks man hella creative!!!
Good luck! Let me know how it works for you!
Enjoy the video, loved the paper marking tip, just tried it out on two of my TLR's works to a tea. Now to get some 35mm film to try in them. Thank you.
Glad to help - good luck!!
I just picked up an ansco panda from a flea market for $6 and want to shoot with it. I didn't realize the takeup spool was removable, this makes it a lot easier to make center aligning spacers for the 35mm cartridge since the panda loads/feeds horizontally instead of vertically. I was advised by a fellow camera nerd about blocking the red window, and I was planning to make exactly the same mistake you made and use gaffers tape. Now I know better. Thanks!
Good luck shooting!
I like the light leak specs. B&H sells 620 film. I also believe FPP does as well.
Good to know! Thanks for sharing, I’ll have to get some and shoot this camera properly.
Very resourceful! Another way I've went about using medium format with 135 is to cut out a piece of black card with a 35mm frame hole and secure that in the camera in front of the film, to get "normal sized" exposures, but with the characteristics of the medium format lens. This method also prevents the film curling and distorting the focal plane, I recommend you try it sometime!
Interesting, I'll have to give that a try! I like the panoramic-feel, but I could give up the sprocket holes being exposed if it meant preserving the focus across the frame.
Nice info, glad you shares!!!
Thanks for watching Brian!!
I dont collect cameras[...yet haha], but always nice to watch videos about old cameras... sometimes we see people complaining about 'digital' cameras and just look how hard was for oldtimes photographers to set the gear for a photoshoot 😄 ... great video JT!👍
I have massive respect for analog photographers after shooting and developing film. It’s such a great experience and I’d recommend it to anyone that really wants to expand their horizons.
I will definitelly try it... when I have the chance ✌
I started with Polaroids, then picked up some automatic point & shoot cameras. Even if you don’t develop the film yourself, it’s fun. 🙌🏻
Curious to see if it will work on a Lubitel as well... It's fun to experiment.
I have a Lubitel 1 TLR and a 35mm canister will not fit in the bottom. You would have to get the adapters to adapt in a roll of 35 mm that you would have to roll in a dark room so that you could actually use it.
I’m curious as well! Let me know what you find out 👍🏻
awesome tutorial my dude
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I'll need to remember this trick. I'm getting a No. 4 Cartridge Kodak, which takes 104 rollfilm. Can't find that. But I got an adapter on eBay so I could use 120 on it. The trick is, like you say, figuring out when I've reached the next exposure. I've got a roll of expired 120, and I'm going to jot down how long it takes to reach the next exposure, but I won't like and say I'm not nervous about the whole process.
This could help! Any suggestions you might have, I'd be grateful for them!
Good luck Justin, that sounds like a good plan!
@@RunNGunPhoto I hope so. I mean, the worst that happens is I take some goofy pictures and double expose some shots with a camera from 1897. That's FINE.
@@BrooklynJackBlue Haha if you get a half-legible exposure from a camera that's a century old... I would consider that a win no matter what! Definitely share your results!!
I got one of those Kodak Duaflex IV camera when I was a teen, it was my dad who gave it ti me in 1978. Yeah it was a 620 mm and was still available back then but only in a very limited choice. But here the way I've solved the problem: 620 film had metallic spool alright, but still uses the same width of a 120 mm (2-1/4")film witch have plastic spool though. Yip the width is a bit larger so it does not fit inside a 620 camera. So the way to still use it was to use a portable dark room or get inside a very dark closet and, in order, reel up the 120 film to an empty spool to then reel it up back to a 620 spool. And there it is, a 620 film ready to use. But be careful only use 120 mm and not 220. Trust me, 120 mm film are still available, you will see the pose number in the amber window and it works just fine.
Re-spooling 120 film will certainly work as well. Just a little bit more hassle.
I have a kodak duaflex ii (almost identical to this one) and the 35mm cartridge seems too big to fit. Did yours feel the same? I don't want to force the door shut and break something.
It was a snug fit, but I was able to get the door closed without much issue.
@@RunNGunPhoto thanks for replying. I read this recently: "620 spools are 22.5mm in diameter and 120 spools (and 35mm film canisters) are 25mm in diameter, so this might not fit in some 620 cameras."
It's definitely on a camera-by-camera basis. If you really wanted to, you could re-roll your 35mm on a 120 spool.
Hello
I have just bought Kodak Duaflex IV 😊
How to remove 35mm film to camera?
hey man, i know you didnt show the flash in the video but im wondering what battery specifically is used for the flash, ive been looking everywhere
Unfortunately no flash unit came with this Duaflex when I found it at the Thriftstore.
@@RunNGunPhoto well, thanks anyway, love your videos
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Sorry I couldn’t be of more help, and thank you!!
Congratulations 👏
Thanks.... what for?
how do you spool the 35mm back into the little tube after all your exposures?
Back into the film canister? Yes.
This can be done in a dark room or film-changing bag: amzn.to/3QEjY3G
620 is readily available from boutique camera dealers.
Thanks Rusty, I had some trouble searching for it back when I made this video.
How do you get them printed? Local walgreens or cvs?
I develop my own film at home and scan them with a DSLR.
620 film is just 120 film with a narrower spool, just clip the rim of the 120 spool and it'll fit. it was invented by kodak to seel more cameras and film.
Thanks for the tip chumleyok. I haven’t bought any 620 yet to shoot.
How do you remove the film unexposed?
In a completely dark room.
how long is a 35mm film, like how manny times can you make a foto?
Usually rolls of 35mm film comes in 24 or 36 exposures.
@@RunNGunPhoto good to know but how do you know when u are taking your last photo or do you just guess XD
When you can’t advance to the next frame, you’ve reached the end of the roll haha You can only wind the roll so far.
Fun fact, the 24 and 36 are just estimates, I am usually able to fit 2-3 extra shots on a roll if you wind it right.
@@RunNGunPhoto ohh i understand now, thank you!
@@canoksas2979 No problem! Film is just a completely blank roll, and the exposures start when you close the back of your camera and start cranking the winding knob - it can vary a little bit for each roll your shoot.
Like I said above, i try not to waste a lot of slack winding it up, so I can squeeze a couple more exposure on a roll. I've fit 40 shots on a 36-exposure roll before!
Just saw one of your pic and just wanna say we got the same triple lamp 😂
Niiiice! I love this lamp. I threw some Color-Changing Hue bulbs in it for a little more fun: amzn.to/3BVask7
you can sectrety add film guide rails using strips of rigid thin plastic or metal to keep the film flush and not curling, but i actually think it's not necessary, and having the image print over the sprocket holes and be imperfect looks nice.
if you shoot color, you have to completely block that red window. certain black and white films can't see that red light, but color films can.
Making any major modifications to the camera gets a bit complicated. I love the sprocket holes personally and wouldn’t want to lose those
smart ❤
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You could also use 120 film on this type of camera as well.
I could… I’d be spending double the price and have to manually re-spool it in a darkroom. It’s a little tedious and this was fun.
*_nice_*
Very nice
Oh hello
Kodak still produces it
Buy it on bnh
From the research I've done, you're just paying extra for someone else to re-roll 120 onto a 620 spool, which I can do myself for $0.
Yeah genius not every one has a dark room to do it
You don't need an actual film "darkroom". You can do this very easily in a closet/room with the lights off, or film changing bag: amzn.to/2VyhpGU
It literally takes 2 minutes, it's not as difficult as you're making it sound.
@@RunNGunPhoto excellent
Dude.....
sup dude
Work on your color grading ...
Any suggestions...? Looks fine to me.
Nah fam? Troll much?