I think it was spray painted to make sure a construction worker doesn't take a piece off the site. even when it goes down into rubble a small piece with writing can be sold online to super fans
They were not engraved. It was one dimensional painted faux "engraving". Yes, Disney destroyed a historic piece of their history and defaced it so that NO ONE COULD SAVE ANY PART OF IT. It's what they do now. Star Wars and Splash Mountain being two things that spring to mind. Maybe making puns of dead people is "problematic" and offensive now.
Minor quibble - Orleanian here ! A "Mausoleum" Is a free standing building, The multi teired wall structure u are talking about is an oven crypt in which whole families share one tomb, after a year and a day on the slab per newly passed persons. So all peoples in a vertical row would be bones to bones, or maybe bags of bones together. Mausoleums are much much nicer and expensive, oven crypts used to be a very accessible price range
Red spray paint is not a "do not destroy." If they were keeping it they would cover it with plywood to prevent damage. They haven't removed it yet because it holds a lot of dirt behind it and they're waiting until the area is mostly clear to begin replacing it. Side note: the wall you pointed to in the concept art as the mausoleum wall was actually the wall closer to the train station in the fastpass kiosk area (it's a short brick wall now). The mausoleum area is supposed to that part covered with the ivy in the bottom right of the photo.
It is odd those that the red spray paint was done in such a way that covered all the writing and any symbols beneath it, e.g. there's a red arch on some of them. If it was simply a "get rid of this wall" marking I would think they would simply put a red X over it.
If you watch how much actual Disney props go for on eBay, antique shops, second-hand shops, etc., you sort of wonder why doesn’t the Disney folks open up Disney World and Disneyland on property shops, and sell the prop items for a nice profit? I know Cast Members are able to purchase a lot of these items, at a minimal cost and resell the items at a very nice profit. Disney is all about money, so not sure why they don’t take advantage of this money making opportunity? Instead of destroying history, give the public the opportunity to own some history, and memories?
Because it might go to some other park or something trying to make money off of Disney or misrepresent themselves as having something to do with the company. It's a financial liability.
@@ZiddersRooFurry Is it really tho? I assure any diehard fan would pay more than any cheap tourist trap around Disney parks to use in their attraction
Why not more overhead coverage for waiting in the line? I was there last October, and that sun with no breeze nearly made me a permanent resident of that Mansion. And I'm a so cal resident used to heat!
Some spray paints are designed to be easier to naturally wash off - “marking paints” for denoting where underground utilities are, for example (like the kind you see on sidewalks or on lawns). This red color could easily be marking paint.
I’m going to Disneyland for the first time this year, and I had no idea about the haunted mansion being closed until way after booking. So I’m really disappointed that I didn’t get to see the old queue, and I won’t be able to experience the new queue for yearssss
yeah, I'd recommend trying for january, if its possible to get refunded for your booking i'd do that and rebook for tokyo disney if you can afford it, or try for a january, I highly recommend that, don't go on holidays or when the park is holiday themed unless you're fine with the crowding, and the potential to have to use genie+ (my boyfriend and I avoided it, we were on a budget as my mother was the one who paid for our entire family and some of her friends to go in october 2022. It was still fun but the experience was not as good as past visits we've had) so I really recommend january. we went january 2017 and that was very nice. wasn't too hot or too cold, less people because most are going in the summer or already went in december for christmas break. and the theming is taken down if I recall so its the usual park look.
Because those aren’t the original mausoleum. The original mausoleum are actually in the archives. I’ve many friends and family that work for the Disney company and I can tell you they are in the archives. Those were re-creations from the original molts as they needed to make it out of a stronger concrete, as they were, unfortunately eroding.
Wanted to go to Disneyland for the first time but heard HM and Splash are down. Kind of crazy I went to Tokyo Disney before CA DL, but I want to experience as much as possible in DL. Hopefully it doesn't take a long time to complete all this HM stuff, definitely seems like a huge void in the entire area of NOS and critter country.
Well they didn't take down the holiday decorations for HM because they are not expecting it to reopen until the next holiday, saving time in the long run, and Splash isn't supposed to be up until sometime next year I think. I mean if you want to visit a US based Disney park, I'd say go to WDW in Florida, while Splash is still down there too everything else is pretty good to go as it is.
if you're looking to go to disneyland, try for the love of all that is holy, to go when NO ONE ELSE is going. my family made the mistake of going around halloween 2022 and it was awful. even on the not halloween days, on the weekdays, it was so extremely busy both due to themeing of the park for halloween, and halloween events, but also because people like going when its less hot or during the summer. in the past we went in January 2017 and before that we went during a summer in 2008 I think it was. but I'd HIGHLY recommend going january. they don't have a guest number limit so if the park is jam packed, its JAM PACKED and you will not get to do everything unless you have at least four days or more as your ticket entry, and if you're doing both disneyland and california adventure, it'll be the same for the california adventure. we had fun but it was a nightmare, the introduction of genie plus instead of the buy one fast pass for the entire park dealio is the other reason, people don't wanna pay to get through the line or can't pay to get through the line so you're either waiting hours, for a small ride, instead of a reasonable 30 minutes to an hour. in the past waits even in busy times would only be about an hour. I think part of what it was so bad too was small world was closed, some rides were breaking down throughout the day, toon town was closed and being changed. its possible that with HM closed for a year traffic may die down so I'd go this year if you can, or next january. the experience was a mixed bag, I had fun, we all did but I can't decide if it was worth it or not and if we should have gone to universal instead or potentially tokyo disney instead
@@Its_Asteria There are no more days where "no one else is going". The reservation system does an incredible job of pushing people that would have packed in on the weekends to go on weekdays.
Red spray paint often means "warning" in construction, and might indicate that live electrical power lines are embedded in the wall or directly behind.
I am so mad about magnolia park. It’s literally one of my favorite places in Disneyland. I would sit there by the fountain and relax some days. And that area that they closed off to be the club 33 foyer ( court of angels) in New Orleans Square used to be my favorite spot to wander into as well. Disney has a way of taking all the most unique Urban spaces in New Orleans Square and either privatizing them or changing them. The fact that it’s worked as both the park space on a day that wasn’t busy and overflow Q space on a day where it was needed, and now they’re going to just blow it all up is crazy. They have a lot of room to work with between the old Fastpass station and the switchback area behind the haunted mansion wall. I’m curious to see how it all looks in the end, but I’m still upset about the park itself. Hopefully it’s not too drastic of a change.
With you on this David! I really hope they can keep as much of Magnolia Park as it has been. If they cut down even one of those stately, beautiful trees they're gonna have a flock o' unfriendly ghosts invading their sock & underwear drawers!
Last time I went to Disneyland, most of that little park was very much already being used as an extended queue for the haunted mansion, full of fencing and stuff. Here’s hoping the area will still be available for regular use on low attendance days.
It can also be a sealer for the surface of the concrete so that someone can take a silicone casting of the carving. Or perhaps even to reduce the error in 3D scanning. I wouldn’t get too worried. They’ll have something worked out for it.
I’m surprised they didn’t at least take down pieces of the mausoleum one at a time n sold them to collectors at least or brought them to a display. Very much hoping that they will pay homage to it in some way.
Haunted mansion it's looks nice new conjuring movie 2013 was looking back Joey King she was Chrisne person 12 years old girl she was hosting on the ride it's coming new
I legit lol'd at how this video kept swerving because you got more updates as you were filming it and didn't want to just start over. I'm still excited for the queue change, even if we lose some of the parts of the queue I did like. Hopefully the gravestones on the berm will come back.
Maybe, perhaps, the red stuff is NOT spray paint. It might be a kind of mold slip compound. Maybe you have seen TV cop shows making casts of footprints or tire prints. If you wanted to get the best possible casting off the mausoleum, you might use a compound to cover the voids between concrete granules so the casting can get fine details but not get stuck to the concrete. Such a casting could be used as a mold to accurately reproduce all of the details of the mausoleum wall inscriptions. This mold could be used as part of a concrete form to build a new mausoleum wall in a new location and/or for a limited edition set of inscriptions for sale.
I'm with you on this. It's Disney, they can completely reproduce the wall exactly as it was or build something even better. They probably have the original renderings and color swatches for it. The red is so specifically on the lettering that it would have been easier to just paint-sprayer the entire wall go-away green than to coat the letters in such an obvious color. It makes sense they did casts of them. If they were trying to devalue the rubble to prevent thievery, they probably could have just as easily impact-hammered the lettering to dust.
I wish they wouldn't destroy props just to discourage the theme park "black market." If Disney doesn't want them, even to archive them, then put them on auction yourself. Disney could host a charity auction for St. Jude's or Make A Wish, giving collectors a legitimate way to acquire pieces (that they know are authentic) and benefitting a good cause.
Haunted Mansion should be expanded or at least the theming. Make a haunted garden seating area, etc. They can even use a water mister overhead and project ghosts onto it like Fantasmic
That's tragic that they broke them up. Maybe they saved a few but its clear that the 2 on the floor are done for. It seems that anything thats tagged is probably coming down like some of the surrounding trees on the hill. Also that green overhang isnt going where the crypt was, its going along the wall that boardered the disneyland railroad and the fastpass garden area.
Wishful thinking... maybe instead of "spray paint" on the mausoleum it was some sort of release agent for something used to take an impression of the writing/decoration so it can be included in the new queue...
"Should we keep a small section that has been pictured and filmed from the opening of the ride for a touch back to the past (part of what a graveyard is all about)?" "Nah, let's make it all new, but cheaper somehow. Then we can always say well Walt said Disneyland would never be finished and they will continue to eat that right up!" --Today's "imagineers"....
There has always been retaining wall there, but the crypts were not original to the opening of the attraction. The crypts were added after it was opened and the original "family graveyard" was removed to add the queue we had all known previously. And those crypts were later removed and replaced when the wall was rebuilt to stabilize the berm. They did their best to recreate them, I guess succeeding since you (and many others) didn't know they were not original. In the released plans, they are intended to be recreated (again) and in several years there will be others who will think like you do that the recreations will be the there since the beginning. I know this after having worked there, going to the park since the early 70s, AND there being pictures of such posted on line.
Dallin, great HM story. At first, when you showed the red paint, I thought of Walt, when the park was being built. Red in trees meant they would stay…Green would mean they would go. Can’t wait for your updates. I used to work at the Disneyland main entrance. I am happy to see them update the system. The center gates, between the turnstiles, will provide extra security. I will further explain if you want me to. The lines, however, will still be long and will be slow….because some people, especially big families, will slow the system.
The spray painting was almost certainly to deface it to prevent souvenir hunting. As for saving stuff? Ummm? Wasn't the archive department utterly gutted last year by Iger's layoffs? I don't think there is anybody left to save stuff? While it should be great to see the Haunted Mansion getting a full refresh and update, I kind of fear we have entered into the second coming of Paul Pressler to the Parks. I don't trust Imagineering right now. Something is very very wrong there.
i have been to disneyland paris! the entrance is very quick, i remember waiting in line for no more than five minutes and that was maybe 30-45 minutes after opening, my friends and i had no problems
HM on halloween and around halloween 2022 was a nightmare line. we wound up sucking it up and waiting in the regular line on halloween because the other days we had avoided it hoping it'd go down a bit. I refused to use genie+ at all because even the genie+ skip lines were a long wait so why waste my very little money on that? (my mother paid for the entire trip, my boyfriend came along as well as some of my mother's friends and their families) otherwise it was a fun experience it just, the park was a nightmare that week. I highly recommend january.... as a time to go to the park. still busy but not as crazy
@@Its_Asteria january is definitely a good time, although i am controversially not a fan of hm holiday 🫣 i’d rather go in spring! nice weather and less crowded
To answer your question about the Disneyland paris gates, Yes. I was there 2 weeks ago, staying at a resort hotel and got given a 'magic pass' which is your room key and park ticket in one. It is a RFID card. The gates at the entrance to the park are both barcode scanners and RFID readers so they would work with magic bands. In fact, I'm surprised that magic bands haven't become a thing at DLP yet as they already have one unified ticket for hotel rooms, entrance, and disney premier access so it seems something that should be technically possible.
Pretty sure the graves/mausoleum wasn't the originals (which are in the archive). I'd bet we'll get new "copies" up there by the end of the new queue construction.
the turnstiles in paris are…decent? most of the times. the biggest hurdle we have is that people don't realize they have to wait between scanning tickets so sometimes the system will stall because it thinks someone is trying to cheat by going too fast. the cast members do NOT take pictures of guests though. regular 1-day tickets just scan normally. I'm honestly not sure there's any measure to prevent someone from sharing the QR code with other people since you don't scan it on your way out of the park. i think there's a limit in that you can't scan the same QR code twice within a set time, but it's pretty short-i've had friends be able to enter one of the parks, do one thing, then hop on over to the other park no problem, so the delay can't be more than like 30 minutes. The only people whose picture is used are annual pass holders, since we take our picture when making the pass. but everyone else? they just go through. also if the turnstiles are compatible with magic bands, i hope this means we're also getting magic bands in paris. that would be cool.
“I don’t know how easy it is to destroy an entire wall, but I think Disney can do it.” I don’t know… that seems impossible, to destroy an entire wall, even for Disney.
13:12 I have been through the entrance gates at Disneyland. They are super fast to get through, and they rarely even have lines because of how quick it is to get through.
Great funny moments in this video Dallon. Much needed from the sad remnants of the old wall. Do you think it will rival or top our Mansion Q at Magic Kingdom? And I agree, TOO MUCH NIGHTMARE B4 CHRISTMAS!
Noooo..... Not another "gift" shop. How many "gift" shops does one amusement park need. Disneyland has more "gift" shops that cats....... Won't be long before there'll be "gift" shops at the exit of "gift" shops....... Please, no more "gift" shops....
Coming soon GiftLand! Buy all your favorite gifts! Stand in a queue to purchase a mug! Thrill while you play Find The PriceTag! Get your picture taken with special seasonal merch! Fun for the whole family!
I'm not really surprised they tore it down. Remember though, those weren't the original queue anyway, but date back to the last queue expansion they did. I honestly expect there will be new ones in some other place in the queue, probably even with the same inscription, but that they just didn't work where they currently were as far as the new layout goes. As far as the paint goes, I'm also inclined to call it 'antitheft' mostly because it was specifically the names and not the panels that had no names that were defaced. Once the panels were broken up, the bits with letters would be the only ones provable to have been part of the wall. Anyway, I'm sure they're just being relocated and likely into a configuration that's different than the old ones. Also given the popularity of WDW's interactive queue, they'd have to completely redo them anyway if they wanted to hide some effect behind them.
I will say, I recently visited Disneyland Paris, if you know what your doing, it’s really quick. It’s just like scanning a QR code to get into a concert
Ok I'm going to be Crabby McCrabbypants for a moment and say the Haunted Mansion did not need new queues until Lightning Lane became a thing, especially for a ride that by all accounts does not need Lightning Lane, just like Pirates of the Caribbean and if you've seen what happened to PotC as a result of LL extended queues have gone deep into New Orleans Square with multiple switch backs... again all to accompany those who want to spend more money to ruin the time of others. I also feel like the Haunted Mansion did not need to shut the entire ride down for such a long period of time just to build queues too, while sure construction happening outside you would wall that off and have ugly temporary queues outside those construction walls, and yes the exit would need some level of closure I feel like they could have done that part first and put all Disney laborers on deck to get that done chop chop quickly, then all the extras like a gift shop and the garden themed outdoor portion could all be build in due time. Hell Disney could do away with the ugly temporary queue and do a virtual queue if they really cared that much. So ultimately what does Disney think people care more about? The whole experience as a whole from day 1? Or riding a functional ride that by all accounts is not changing at all and seeing different parts of the exterior finished at different times? I finish with this as an answer... Disney doesn't care what people think as long as it makes extra money from guests who get tired of waiting in horrendously long lines because they have no reason to limit the number of LL reservations as long as those who pay extra don't complain, the people who pay a huge amount complaining is still irrelevant to them. And who here thinks the Pirates LL queue is temporary until HM gets reopened? Not I!
It's NOT spray paint! It's a sealer that is used for making a mold of the engravings on said mausoleum walls. They're going to use them to recreate the new mausoleum.
The wall looks like it has way more stress fractures than when it first was put in. I gotta think that the wall is coming down because the berm is moving it and the wall is no longer bearing the weight of the hill.
I think the grim grinning ghost are gonna be grim cover-your-ears ghost! get it? 'cause the ghost are gonna be covering their ears... cause it's so lou- oh nevermind
Are you sure it's not a foam layer to protect the engraved lettering? If they were going to get rid of them, they would have just dismantled the wall...SEE? OH NO!!! Who ever OK'd that needs to be the 1000th UNHAPPY Haunt!!!
Thanks Dallin! I am now thoroughly temporally stirred up as with a big stick! I think the colloquial phrase what represents this perceptual jumblement is, "ass before nipples". All I know is that, now, whenever I pass a mirror, I see myself going by in the opposite direction! Very disconcerting! My favorite bit is that someone online said that the red paint was really a "releasing agent" to cause the easy removal of a reverse image mold that 'they' (imagineers?) had made of all of the priceless epitaphs! So as to allow exact replication on an replacement mausoleum type manifestation... I'm not falling for it... Or am I? PS: If one looks at the pictures, one will see a large contoured pile of what looks like gravel. Because it is! They have a grinder. All the brick, mortar and concrete goes in and that gravel comes out the other end! There will be no souvenirs! Unless a tiny piece of gravel floats yer boat!
Over the years many ashes, "human & pet," have been secretly deposited along the Q. So, one must wonder where the remains of those "passed" Disneyland fans will end up?
I realize this is off-topic, but Disney needs to stop tinkering and repurposing/renaming popular older attractions. Disrupting or destroying original footprints in the park that were original design that don’t really really need to be restructured. And this money and intellect into fixing what needs to be fixed. The people mover has been sitting dormant since the early 90s. I am old enough to remember the people mover. It was one of my favorite rides within the park. Me and my friends/family would ride it routinely three or four times a trip into Disneyland Park. Could easily reinforce the structures on this track so that they are up to current code and bring this ride back with a tremendous fanfare. You would have generations of old fans come back to this park strictly for that. The other would be to put the Astro orbiter back on top of the mover platform where it belongs like it is in Disney World ! The elevator ride up to the top was also fun. But it gave you a great view of all of tomorrowland and some of the rest of the park. Now it just blocks up the entrance to tomorrow and with the queue.. Lastly, would be to find a proper use for the old America sings building! Which was another ride I thoroughly enjoyed and remembered as a kid. Instead of all these blue sky possible ideas, they might, or might not do we’ve seen how most of them turn out with the Bayou adventure, looking nothing like the concept art. Although the ride will still remain interesting and fun, it’s not looking good in terms of living up to the expectation. That’s all I have love your channel. I am “Pro People Mover” If you make shirts that say that I will buy several! 3xl or bigger I’m a big guy!! 😂
Those pun names are just impressions squished into concrete- if they don’t still have the thing they make the impressions with somewhere in Imagineering I guarantee they’re easily replaced. It would be much easier to re-pour a wall and re-squish than to cut up concrete for saving or to try and save a concrete wall for reuse. I get them putting a ton of little things in storage but saving the original wall for reuse or storage is a little beyond I think
Some people are even theorizing that the spray paint is actually mold sealant, which would make sense if they intended to make impressions and remake the wall
i wonder if they'll either remake them OR if they'll just polish up the front - we don't really know what the spraypaint means, it could be anything, even potentially "don't hit this with heavy machinery we don't want to pay for it please god"
It’s also may be because they might be giving the wall a fresh coat of paint possibly and maybe redoing the names on the wall. We can’t say they took them out until more pictures get leaked of it.
The original mausoleum walls are in the archives, Those are from molds made of the originals when they needed those walls to be made of stronger concrete due to erosion!
My first visit to the Haunted Mansion was May 1972 and I don't remember the queue exactly, but when I visited again in June 1975 there had been changes. I thought that the '75 queue was more efficient and more entertaining than in '72, but memories fade and are recreated. One issue to the older Disney attractions was a lack of exiting through gift shops. There are problems with redesigning the attractions and with headcount in the gift shops--but Star Traders is the exit for Star Wars and close to Space Mountain and whatever the 3-D theater is called now. Part of the Haunted Mansion redesign is plunking a gift shop at the exit to vacuum up more dollars from guests' credit card accounts. That wasn't part of the original design and that exit may be combined with Tiana's Bayou Adventure so that one existing merchandise location can serve both. Synergetic marketing and merchandising are works in progress.
I love your videos & odd sense of humor. I enjoy your love for H.M., it's history & lore intrigue. But, these mausoleum walls & puns are so easy to recreate & don't have the style/design points that say a vintage bat stanchion has, this is really no serious loss. I would have never bought one of the crypt fronts at an auction.
Universal has the same system for the ticket scanning and is actually really fast and easy, because other than it scanning your tikcet it also scans your face and shows an older picture taken to comper whether or not your the real owner of the pass.
I feel like the big reason it hurts to see that part of the cue destroyed is even though we know it’s not real, it feels like graves are being desecrated. It just feels more wrong than any other normal sort of renovations. I just have to keep reminding myself that no one was actually buried there. The names are just gags. But it still feels wrong. Ha
Yes, I just visited Disneyland in Paris two weeks ago. As a hotel guest you now receive a Magic Pass it looks like a credit card, which is read by the gates via RFID. Therefore I think that a magic band could also be detected by the scanners without any problems. The system in Paris is really fast, but as far as I know no photos of guests are used for entry
In 2016 When I had a season pass to Universal Japan, you scan you season pass and they took compare to a photo, it always took a little longer. I've been to Paris, it was a bit quicker to scan you pass and go.
Why didn’t they just do this in 2020 during the pandemic? They were already doing renovations anyway given I had to miss out on Haunted Mansion after 30 years of waiting. 🤷♂️😑🙄😠
if i were to guess, it's because during the pandemic places like theme parks, theaters, etc weren't making a ton of money. They probably had the money to do it honestly, but knowing how companies work, they probably didn't want to spend it in what they considered an uncertain time financially. that and for a time, those workers doing the renovations were not considered essential workers. a solid chunk of the time before reopening people were also just not supposed to be working and staying home to minimize spread, remember, including people who are construction workers. overall i can't be too mad if those people weren't made to work during lockdown even if it's not all done when we'd like it to be, you know. i didn't even get to see the castle when i went in 2019 tho, huge bummer lol
I think it was spray painted to make sure a construction worker doesn't take a piece off the site. even when it goes down into rubble a small piece with writing can be sold online to super fans
This was my thought as well, but someone on another video commented that maybe that might be mold release after making molds of the engravings...
Like when stores throw bleach on their "trash" to dissuade dumpster diving
They were not engraved. It was one dimensional painted faux "engraving".
Yes, Disney destroyed a historic piece of their history and defaced it so that NO ONE COULD SAVE ANY PART OF IT.
It's what they do now.
Star Wars and Splash Mountain being two things that spring to mind.
Maybe making puns of dead people is "problematic" and offensive now.
@hamiltoncox7651 Oh. My. God. shut up
WDNT pointed out the real mosiliums have been taken out since 2006 and the new ones where copies
Minor quibble - Orleanian here ! A "Mausoleum" Is a free standing building, The multi teired wall structure u are talking about is an oven crypt in which whole families share one tomb, after a year and a day on the slab per newly passed persons. So all peoples in a vertical row would be bones to bones, or maybe bags of bones together. Mausoleums are much much nicer and expensive, oven crypts used to be a very accessible price range
Came here to say this
Came to say the same.
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@@stellviahohenheim you cared enough to reply, so you tell me?
Red spray paint is not a "do not destroy." If they were keeping it they would cover it with plywood to prevent damage. They haven't removed it yet because it holds a lot of dirt behind it and they're waiting until the area is mostly clear to begin replacing it.
Side note: the wall you pointed to in the concept art as the mausoleum wall was actually the wall closer to the train station in the fastpass kiosk area (it's a short brick wall now). The mausoleum area is supposed to that part covered with the ivy in the bottom right of the photo.
It is odd those that the red spray paint was done in such a way that covered all the writing and any symbols beneath it, e.g. there's a red arch on some of them. If it was simply a "get rid of this wall" marking I would think they would simply put a red X over it.
if you look close they preserved the writing after removing them, they will probably use it again or make new ones@@Mike__B
If you watch how much actual Disney props go for on eBay, antique shops, second-hand shops, etc., you sort of wonder why doesn’t the Disney folks open up Disney World and Disneyland on property shops, and sell the prop items for a nice profit? I know Cast Members are able to purchase a lot of these items, at a minimal cost and resell the items at a very nice profit. Disney is all about money, so not sure why they don’t take advantage of this money making opportunity? Instead of destroying history, give the public the opportunity to own some history, and memories?
Because it might go to some other park or something trying to make money off of Disney or misrepresent themselves as having something to do with the company. It's a financial liability.
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Is it really tho? I assure any diehard fan would pay more than any cheap tourist trap around Disney parks to use in their attraction
Why not more overhead coverage for waiting in the line? I was there last October, and that sun with no breeze nearly made me a permanent resident of that Mansion. And I'm a so cal resident used to heat!
One of the trees in the back has a red ribbon which I believe lends credence to it being a marker for "Do Not Destroy"
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Some spray paints are designed to be easier to naturally wash off - “marking paints” for denoting where underground utilities are, for example (like the kind you see on sidewalks or on lawns). This red color could easily be marking paint.
I’m going to Disneyland for the first time this year, and I had no idea about the haunted mansion being closed until way after booking. So I’m really disappointed that I didn’t get to see the old queue, and I won’t be able to experience the new queue for yearssss
yeah, I'd recommend trying for january, if its possible to get refunded for your booking i'd do that and rebook for tokyo disney if you can afford it, or try for a january, I highly recommend that, don't go on holidays or when the park is holiday themed unless you're fine with the crowding, and the potential to have to use genie+ (my boyfriend and I avoided it, we were on a budget as my mother was the one who paid for our entire family and some of her friends to go in october 2022. It was still fun but the experience was not as good as past visits we've had)
so I really recommend january. we went january 2017 and that was very nice. wasn't too hot or too cold, less people because most are going in the summer or already went in december for christmas break. and the theming is taken down if I recall so its the usual park look.
@@Its_Asteriait's looks new movie sounds like story life look back in new memories Danny Devo
Because those aren’t the original mausoleum. The original mausoleum are actually in the archives. I’ve many friends and family that work for the Disney company and I can tell you they are in the archives. Those were re-creations from the original molts as they needed to make it out of a stronger concrete, as they were, unfortunately eroding.
Wanted to go to Disneyland for the first time but heard HM and Splash are down. Kind of crazy I went to Tokyo Disney before CA DL, but I want to experience as much as possible in DL. Hopefully it doesn't take a long time to complete all this HM stuff, definitely seems like a huge void in the entire area of NOS and critter country.
Well they didn't take down the holiday decorations for HM because they are not expecting it to reopen until the next holiday, saving time in the long run, and Splash isn't supposed to be up until sometime next year I think. I mean if you want to visit a US based Disney park, I'd say go to WDW in Florida, while Splash is still down there too everything else is pretty good to go as it is.
i also made it to Tokyo and Paris before CA. i normally go to Orlando.
The Tokyo Mansion is far superior to either stateside version.
if you're looking to go to disneyland, try for the love of all that is holy, to go when NO ONE ELSE is going.
my family made the mistake of going around halloween 2022 and it was awful. even on the not halloween days, on the weekdays, it was so extremely busy both due to themeing of the park for halloween, and halloween events, but also because people like going when its less hot or during the summer. in the past we went in January 2017 and before that we went during a summer in 2008 I think it was.
but I'd HIGHLY recommend going january. they don't have a guest number limit so if the park is jam packed, its JAM PACKED and you will not get to do everything unless you have at least four days or more as your ticket entry, and if you're doing both disneyland and california adventure, it'll be the same for the california adventure.
we had fun but it was a nightmare, the introduction of genie plus instead of the buy one fast pass for the entire park dealio is the other reason, people don't wanna pay to get through the line or can't pay to get through the line so you're either waiting hours, for a small ride, instead of a reasonable 30 minutes to an hour. in the past waits even in busy times would only be about an hour. I think part of what it was so bad too was small world was closed, some rides were breaking down throughout the day, toon town was closed and being changed.
its possible that with HM closed for a year traffic may die down so I'd go this year if you can, or next january.
the experience was a mixed bag, I had fun, we all did but I can't decide if it was worth it or not and if we should have gone to universal instead or potentially tokyo disney instead
@@Its_Asteria There are no more days where "no one else is going". The reservation system does an incredible job of pushing people that would have packed in on the weekends to go on weekdays.
This whole thing kinda reminds me of the Mary Blair mural in tomorrow land that was destroyed
Red spray paint often means "warning" in construction, and might indicate that live electrical power lines are embedded in the wall or directly behind.
I am so mad about magnolia park. It’s literally one of my favorite places in Disneyland. I would sit there by the fountain and relax some days. And that area that they closed off to be the club 33 foyer ( court of angels) in New Orleans Square used to be my favorite spot to wander into as well. Disney has a way of taking all the most unique Urban spaces in New Orleans Square and either privatizing them or changing them. The fact that it’s worked as both the park space on a day that wasn’t busy and overflow Q space on a day where it was needed, and now they’re going to just blow it all up is crazy. They have a lot of room to work with between the old Fastpass station and the switchback area behind the haunted mansion wall. I’m curious to see how it all looks in the end, but I’m still upset about the park itself. Hopefully it’s not too drastic of a change.
Do you know what contact info conjuring haunted mansion has been there since on Bathsheba ghost reel life ghost Ben there
With you on this David! I really hope they can keep as much of Magnolia Park as it has been. If they cut down even one of those stately, beautiful trees they're gonna have a flock o' unfriendly ghosts invading their sock & underwear drawers!
Last time I went to Disneyland, most of that little park was very much already being used as an extended queue for the haunted mansion, full of fencing and stuff. Here’s hoping the area will still be available for regular use on low attendance days.
It can also be a sealer for the surface of the concrete so that someone can take a silicone casting of the carving. Or perhaps even to reduce the error in 3D scanning.
I wouldn’t get too worried. They’ll have something worked out for it.
the names weren't carved though, they were just painted
I’m surprised they didn’t at least take down pieces of the mausoleum one at a time n sold them to collectors at least or brought them to a display.
Very much hoping that they will pay homage to it in some way.
Haunted mansion it's looks nice new conjuring movie 2013 was looking back Joey King she was Chrisne person 12 years old girl she was hosting on the ride it's coming new
The jumblement is spreading...
Thanks Dallin, I was literally bored on my chair looking desperately in your channel for a video I haven't watched before. What a great timing.
I legit lol'd at how this video kept swerving because you got more updates as you were filming it and didn't want to just start over. I'm still excited for the queue change, even if we lose some of the parts of the queue I did like. Hopefully the gravestones on the berm will come back.
Really missed calling this the Desecration.
Maybe, perhaps, the red stuff is NOT spray paint. It might be a kind of mold slip compound. Maybe you have seen TV cop shows making casts of footprints or tire prints. If you wanted to get the best possible casting off the mausoleum, you might use a compound to cover the voids between concrete granules so the casting can get fine details but not get stuck to the concrete. Such a casting could be used as a mold to accurately reproduce all of the details of the mausoleum wall inscriptions. This mold could be used as part of a concrete form to build a new mausoleum wall in a new location and/or for a limited edition set of inscriptions for sale.
I'm with you on this. It's Disney, they can completely reproduce the wall exactly as it was or build something even better. They probably have the original renderings and color swatches for it. The red is so specifically on the lettering that it would have been easier to just paint-sprayer the entire wall go-away green than to coat the letters in such an obvious color. It makes sense they did casts of them. If they were trying to devalue the rubble to prevent thievery, they probably could have just as easily impact-hammered the lettering to dust.
I'm worried about all the families that go, not knowing it's closed. It could use an elevator at the exit. I won't even go until it reopens.
What a month
First we lose the mausoleums… then we lose the country bears
At least we’ll get them back in a few months
moths?
I wish they wouldn't destroy props just to discourage the theme park "black market." If Disney doesn't want them, even to archive them, then put them on auction yourself. Disney could host a charity auction for St. Jude's or Make A Wish, giving collectors a legitimate way to acquire pieces (that they know are authentic) and benefitting a good cause.
Haunted Mansion should be expanded or at least the theming. Make a haunted garden seating area, etc. They can even use a water mister overhead and project ghosts onto it like Fantasmic
That's tragic that they broke them up. Maybe they saved a few but its clear that the 2 on the floor are done for.
It seems that anything thats tagged is probably coming down like some of the surrounding trees on the hill. Also that green overhang isnt going where the crypt was, its going along the wall that boardered the disneyland railroad and the fastpass garden area.
My favourite Disney channel honestly I was spewing facts from here to my family on our last visit
If they have to do work on the berm itself, there was probably no way to salvage within budget. Safety comes first.
Wishful thinking... maybe instead of "spray paint" on the mausoleum it was some sort of release agent for something used to take an impression of the writing/decoration so it can be included in the new queue...
No, it's gone. It was just thrown into the rest of the rubble
"Should we keep a small section that has been pictured and filmed from the opening of the ride for a touch back to the past (part of what a graveyard is all about)?" "Nah, let's make it all new, but cheaper somehow. Then we can always say well Walt said Disneyland would never be finished and they will continue to eat that right up!" --Today's "imagineers"....
There has always been retaining wall there, but the crypts were not original to the opening of the attraction. The crypts were added after it was opened and the original "family graveyard" was removed to add the queue we had all known previously. And those crypts were later removed and replaced when the wall was rebuilt to stabilize the berm.
They did their best to recreate them, I guess succeeding since you (and many others) didn't know they were not original. In the released plans, they are intended to be recreated (again) and in several years there will be others who will think like you do that the recreations will be the there since the beginning.
I know this after having worked there, going to the park since the early 70s, AND there being pictures of such posted on line.
Dallin, great HM story. At first, when you showed the red paint, I thought of Walt, when the park was being built. Red in trees meant they would stay…Green would mean they would go. Can’t wait for your updates. I used to work at the Disneyland main entrance. I am happy to see them update the system. The center gates, between the turnstiles, will provide extra security. I will further explain if you want me to. The lines, however, will still be long and will be slow….because some people, especially big families, will slow the system.
The spray painting was almost certainly to deface it to prevent souvenir hunting. As for saving stuff? Ummm? Wasn't the archive department utterly gutted last year by Iger's layoffs? I don't think there is anybody left to save stuff? While it should be great to see the Haunted Mansion getting a full refresh and update, I kind of fear we have entered into the second coming of Paul Pressler to the Parks. I don't trust Imagineering right now. Something is very very wrong there.
I wonder if it’s a rubber-based paint that was intended to protect the names, something easy to peel away later… or them again, maybe not.
i have been to disneyland paris! the entrance is very quick, i remember waiting in line for no more than five minutes and that was maybe 30-45 minutes after opening, my friends and i had no problems
HM on halloween and around halloween 2022 was a nightmare line. we wound up sucking it up and waiting in the regular line on halloween because the other days we had avoided it hoping it'd go down a bit. I refused to use genie+ at all because even the genie+ skip lines were a long wait so why waste my very little money on that?
(my mother paid for the entire trip, my boyfriend came along as well as some of my mother's friends and their families)
otherwise it was a fun experience it just, the park was a nightmare that week.
I highly recommend january.... as a time to go to the park. still busy but not as crazy
@@Its_Asteria january is definitely a good time, although i am controversially not a fan of hm holiday 🫣 i’d rather go in spring! nice weather and less crowded
To answer your question about the Disneyland paris gates, Yes. I was there 2 weeks ago, staying at a resort hotel and got given a 'magic pass' which is your room key and park ticket in one. It is a RFID card. The gates at the entrance to the park are both barcode scanners and RFID readers so they would work with magic bands. In fact, I'm surprised that magic bands haven't become a thing at DLP yet as they already have one unified ticket for hotel rooms, entrance, and disney premier access so it seems something that should be technically possible.
lol bruh your 4th wall breaks and self conversations are always so funny
This saddens me. I just got to see it for the first time last year
Disneyland Paris gates were very fast. It doesn’t really take to long
Pretty sure the graves/mausoleum wasn't the originals (which are in the archive). I'd bet we'll get new "copies" up there by the end of the new queue construction.
the turnstiles in paris are…decent? most of the times. the biggest hurdle we have is that people don't realize they have to wait between scanning tickets so sometimes the system will stall because it thinks someone is trying to cheat by going too fast.
the cast members do NOT take pictures of guests though. regular 1-day tickets just scan normally. I'm honestly not sure there's any measure to prevent someone from sharing the QR code with other people since you don't scan it on your way out of the park. i think there's a limit in that you can't scan the same QR code twice within a set time, but it's pretty short-i've had friends be able to enter one of the parks, do one thing, then hop on over to the other park no problem, so the delay can't be more than like 30 minutes.
The only people whose picture is used are annual pass holders, since we take our picture when making the pass. but everyone else? they just go through.
also if the turnstiles are compatible with magic bands, i hope this means we're also getting magic bands in paris. that would be cool.
“I don’t know how easy it is to destroy an entire wall, but I think Disney can do it.” I don’t know… that seems impossible, to destroy an entire wall, even for Disney.
no haunted mansion 😀 NO HAUNTED MANSION??? 😮 no no no this won’t do 😭 i can’t go this summer if the haunted mansion is still closed
Maybe they took molds of each stone and then tagged it red to mark safe for destruction
13:12 I have been through the entrance gates at Disneyland. They are super fast to get through, and they rarely even have lines because of how quick it is to get through.
Great funny moments in this video Dallon. Much needed from the sad remnants of the old wall. Do you think it will rival or top our Mansion Q at Magic Kingdom? And I agree, TOO MUCH NIGHTMARE B4 CHRISTMAS!
Noooo..... Not another "gift" shop. How many "gift" shops does one amusement park need. Disneyland has more "gift" shops that cats....... Won't be long before there'll be "gift" shops at the exit of "gift" shops....... Please, no more "gift" shops....
Worse, the gift shops are all homogenized.
And that's being nice......@@nathanhousley5060
Coming soon GiftLand! Buy all your favorite gifts! Stand in a queue to purchase a mug! Thrill while you play Find The PriceTag! Get your picture taken with special seasonal merch! Fun for the whole family!
@@nathanhousley5060 Wait til' you realize how many people complain about having to walk to the other side of the park for a certain piece of merch.
Just like a glass of milk.@@nathanhousley5060
I'm not really surprised they tore it down. Remember though, those weren't the original queue anyway, but date back to the last queue expansion they did. I honestly expect there will be new ones in some other place in the queue, probably even with the same inscription, but that they just didn't work where they currently were as far as the new layout goes.
As far as the paint goes, I'm also inclined to call it 'antitheft' mostly because it was specifically the names and not the panels that had no names that were defaced. Once the panels were broken up, the bits with letters would be the only ones provable to have been part of the wall.
Anyway, I'm sure they're just being relocated and likely into a configuration that's different than the old ones. Also given the popularity of WDW's interactive queue, they'd have to completely redo them anyway if they wanted to hide some effect behind them.
We are visiting Disneyland in June in the week leading up to OpenSauce Live, so excited for it.
I will say, I recently visited Disneyland Paris, if you know what your doing, it’s really quick. It’s just like scanning a QR code to get into a concert
Love the videos and everything you do, Dallin, God bless you! Keep up the amazing work!
The silly back and forth editing with yourself had me crackin up lol
Ok I'm going to be Crabby McCrabbypants for a moment and say the Haunted Mansion did not need new queues until Lightning Lane became a thing, especially for a ride that by all accounts does not need Lightning Lane, just like Pirates of the Caribbean and if you've seen what happened to PotC as a result of LL extended queues have gone deep into New Orleans Square with multiple switch backs... again all to accompany those who want to spend more money to ruin the time of others.
I also feel like the Haunted Mansion did not need to shut the entire ride down for such a long period of time just to build queues too, while sure construction happening outside you would wall that off and have ugly temporary queues outside those construction walls, and yes the exit would need some level of closure I feel like they could have done that part first and put all Disney laborers on deck to get that done chop chop quickly, then all the extras like a gift shop and the garden themed outdoor portion could all be build in due time. Hell Disney could do away with the ugly temporary queue and do a virtual queue if they really cared that much.
So ultimately what does Disney think people care more about? The whole experience as a whole from day 1? Or riding a functional ride that by all accounts is not changing at all and seeing different parts of the exterior finished at different times? I finish with this as an answer... Disney doesn't care what people think as long as it makes extra money from guests who get tired of waiting in horrendously long lines because they have no reason to limit the number of LL reservations as long as those who pay extra don't complain, the people who pay a huge amount complaining is still irrelevant to them. And who here thinks the Pirates LL queue is temporary until HM gets reopened? Not I!
Exactly; the Mansion is a fast-loading crowd-eater. Giving it a LL is a blatant cash grab.
Offhand News where Dallin goes Primer with the time loops.
It's NOT spray paint! It's a sealer that is used for making a mold of the engravings on said mausoleum walls. They're going to use them to recreate the new mausoleum.
A FreshBaked adjacent video! Fun!
The wall looks like it has way more stress fractures than when it first was put in. I gotta think that the wall is coming down because the berm is moving it and the wall is no longer bearing the weight of the hill.
Heyyyyy! I love your videos and deep dives!! Please never stop creating!
The red spray paint might be a release agent for making molds for making copies of the epitaphs for a new mausoleum wall.
I think the grim grinning ghost are gonna be grim cover-your-ears ghost! get it? 'cause the ghost are gonna be covering their ears... cause it's so lou- oh nevermind
The new que is going to be great! Im just disappointed itll take so long to do
Are you sure it's not a foam layer to protect the engraved lettering? If they were going to get rid of them, they would have just dismantled the wall...SEE? OH NO!!! Who ever OK'd that needs to be the 1000th UNHAPPY Haunt!!!
Thanks Dallin! I am now thoroughly temporally stirred up as with a big stick! I think the colloquial phrase what represents this perceptual jumblement is, "ass before nipples". All I know is that, now, whenever I pass a mirror, I see myself going by in the opposite direction! Very disconcerting!
My favorite bit is that someone online said that the red paint was really a "releasing agent" to cause the easy removal of a reverse image mold that 'they' (imagineers?) had made of all of the priceless epitaphs! So as to allow exact replication on an replacement mausoleum type manifestation...
I'm not falling for it...
Or am I?
PS: If one looks at the pictures, one will see a large contoured pile of what looks like gravel. Because it is! They have a grinder. All the brick, mortar and concrete goes in and that gravel comes out the other end! There will be no souvenirs! Unless a tiny piece of gravel floats yer boat!
Over the years many ashes, "human & pet," have been secretly deposited along the Q. So, one must wonder where the remains of those "passed" Disneyland fans will end up?
Landfill
I always loved the pun crypts. Maybe they will recreate them. Theo Later
Imagine how much money they could have made for charity if they auctioned them off.
I realize this is off-topic, but Disney needs to stop tinkering and repurposing/renaming popular older attractions. Disrupting or destroying original footprints in the park that were original design that don’t really really need to be restructured. And this money and intellect into fixing what needs to be fixed.
The people mover has been sitting dormant since the early 90s. I am old enough to remember the people mover. It was one of my favorite rides within the park. Me and my friends/family would ride it routinely three or four times a trip into Disneyland Park. Could easily reinforce the structures on this track so that they are up to current code and bring this ride back with a tremendous fanfare. You would have generations of old fans come back to this park strictly for that.
The other would be to put the Astro orbiter back on top of the mover platform where it belongs like it is in Disney World ! The elevator ride up to the top was also fun. But it gave you a great view of all of tomorrowland and some of the rest of the park. Now it just blocks up the entrance to tomorrow and with the queue..
Lastly, would be to find a proper use for the old America sings building! Which was another ride I thoroughly enjoyed and remembered as a kid. Instead of all these blue sky possible ideas, they might, or might not do we’ve seen how most of them turn out with the Bayou adventure, looking nothing like the concept art. Although the ride will still remain interesting and fun, it’s not looking good in terms of living up to the expectation.
That’s all I have love your channel. I am “Pro People Mover” If you make shirts that say that I will buy several! 3xl or bigger I’m a big guy!! 😂
Those pun names are just impressions squished into concrete- if they don’t still have the thing they make the impressions with somewhere in Imagineering I guarantee they’re easily replaced. It would be much easier to re-pour a wall and re-squish than to cut up concrete for saving or to try and save a concrete wall for reuse. I get them putting a ton of little things in storage but saving the original wall for reuse or storage is a little beyond I think
Some people are even theorizing that the spray paint is actually mold sealant, which would make sense if they intended to make impressions and remake the wall
Love being a patron to get these early.
one of the best channels on youtube
The humor and gags are what set this channel apart and I love them 😂
Aloha Daylin..you are always fun..thank you
Honestly..I'm surprised Disney isn't selling them themselves...I mean..why not?
i wonder if they'll either remake them OR if they'll just polish up the front - we don't really know what the spraypaint means, it could be anything, even potentially "don't hit this with heavy machinery we don't want to pay for it please god"
It makes me happy when you post
It’s also may be because they might be giving the wall a fresh coat of paint possibly and maybe redoing the names on the wall. We can’t say they took them out until more pictures get leaked of it.
destroying that fourth wall like they destroyed the mausoleum, top tier video 💯🎉
The original mausoleum walls are in the archives, Those are from molds made of the originals when they needed those walls to be made of stronger concrete due to erosion!
Modern Disney will just make the line unbearable and force you to buy Lightning Lane, bypassing the new queue.
Dallin when Haunted Mansion reopens:
MANSION POWERS ACTIVATE!
I love your little character bits dallon
I love these updates!
I heard that the original mausoleum pieces were taken out here ago. The one that was just spray-painted on is just a copy.
I’ve long been annoyed - and sometimes heartbroken - by Disney’s self-vandalism
My first visit to the Haunted Mansion was May 1972 and I don't remember the queue exactly, but when I visited again in June 1975 there had been changes. I thought that the '75 queue was more efficient and more entertaining than in '72, but memories fade and are recreated.
One issue to the older Disney attractions was a lack of exiting through gift shops. There are problems with redesigning the attractions and with headcount in the gift shops--but Star Traders is the exit for Star Wars and close to Space Mountain and whatever the 3-D theater is called now. Part of the Haunted Mansion redesign is plunking a gift shop at the exit to vacuum up more dollars from guests' credit card accounts. That wasn't part of the original design and that exit may be combined with Tiana's Bayou Adventure so that one existing merchandise location can serve both.
Synergetic marketing and merchandising are works in progress.
I love this channel so much omg
I love your videos & odd sense of humor.
I enjoy your love for H.M., it's history & lore intrigue.
But, these mausoleum walls & puns are so easy to recreate & don't have the style/design points that say a vintage bat stanchion has, this is really no serious loss.
I would have never bought one of the crypt fronts at an auction.
There’s two kinds of retaining walls. Ones that are falling down, and ones that will fall down.
Time comes for all retaining walls to go!
Your video editing style is unique and awesome!
Universal has the same system for the ticket scanning and is actually really fast and easy, because other than it scanning your tikcet it also scans your face and shows an older picture taken to comper whether or not your the real owner of the pass.
I love the chaos of this video
My poor dude I’d give you a hug buddy I know how you feel and I do know we will see some surprises besides the mausoleum being destroyed
13:47 “You can’t. Cause it’s gone.”
I’m ded!
I feel like the big reason it hurts to see that part of the cue destroyed is even though we know it’s not real, it feels like graves are being desecrated. It just feels more wrong than any other normal sort of renovations. I just have to keep reminding myself that no one was actually buried there. The names are just gags. But it still feels wrong. Ha
where did offhand disney get that very cool micrphone and how much did he pay for it???
I managed to save a lot of good peices of THE Black Pearl ship that Disney was going to destroy! The Black Pearl is freedom! 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
I heard they are expanding the graveyard scene up the hill
I’ve been waiting for this one
10/10 video great to watch while writing a hate piece against Disney /hj
Yes, I just visited Disneyland in Paris two weeks ago. As a hotel guest you now receive a Magic Pass it looks like a credit card, which is read by the gates via RFID. Therefore I think that a magic band could also be detected by the scanners without any problems. The system in Paris is really fast, but as far as I know no photos of guests are used for entry
In 2016 When I had a season pass to Universal Japan, you scan you season pass and they took compare to a photo, it always took a little longer. I've been to Paris, it was a bit quicker to scan you pass and go.
Why didn’t they just do this in 2020 during the pandemic? They were already doing renovations anyway given I had to miss out on Haunted Mansion after 30 years of waiting. 🤷♂️😑🙄😠
if i were to guess, it's because during the pandemic places like theme parks, theaters, etc weren't making a ton of money. They probably had the money to do it honestly, but knowing how companies work, they probably didn't want to spend it in what they considered an uncertain time financially.
that and for a time, those workers doing the renovations were not considered essential workers. a solid chunk of the time before reopening people were also just not supposed to be working and staying home to minimize spread, remember, including people who are construction workers. overall i can't be too mad if those people weren't made to work during lockdown even if it's not all done when we'd like it to be, you know.
i didn't even get to see the castle when i went in 2019 tho, huge bummer lol
Meanwhile Universal is over here building a whole new theme park during the pandemic 😂
Paris is pretty fast! Never queued longer than 2 mins, but I don't tend to go at peak moments.
The Mausoleums were painted, not chiseled???? I never realized that. Wow.