Thanks for putting in the time and effort to put this comparison together. I’m actually going to buy a new 4Runner, but the platform characteristics are so similar that I found your review very helpful. Nice job.
@@TalonSei Do you know what the offset is for the factory TRD Pro wheels that you swapped out? I'm also looking to swap out my tires to 35/12.5, however, I'd like to keep the 18" stock Pro wheels, but would like to keep the poke at bay (maybe just a tad beyond the flared fenders). If they're +25, I think I should be okay, but if they're 0 offset, that may result in more "poke" than I'd like. I appreciate any feedback you can provide.
Great video! @ 5:00 I'm pretty sure the TH skids are steel which is why they are thinner, I installed one on my TRD Offroad and it was very heavy/beefy. Also the description when I bought from my dealer said steel.
I didn’t have a magnet to check but you are right. Curious to see how they hold up to some actual off road uses compared to some beefier aftermarket options 👍🏼
@@TalonSei Yeah hopefully good enough, I'd like to do a build not to disimlair from your truck. The nylon skids that come on the Offroad needed to go ASAP 😄
I like your truck and the video comparison to the Trailhunter. We have a 5th gen 4Runner modified for Overlanding and love it. We already have money down on a 2025 4Runner Trailhunter. Will keep it mostly stock this time, towing an off-road trailer now. Yep, there will always be dissagreable people out there, I'm buying ours based on use. It will be our 5th hybrid, we also have a 2024 Rav4 prime. More power, towing and better fuel economy is a win.
So much of this is down to taste and budget. I went with the trailhunter because it’s a bit more understated looks wise/doesn’t have those seats so I can carry passengers/ mine has a 6’ bed. Perfect for me but everyone’s needs are different. If you want a 6’ bed and a hybrid like I did, it’s the only trim option rn. The hybrid is so nice + the 2400w inverter is super useful for work! The air intake sound isn’t that loud honestly unless you’re spooling the turbo constantly ~ if you drive mellow it’s pretty quiet.
@TalonSei Thank you for this comparison vid, my man. I took delivery of my TRD Pro a few weeks ago - same like yours, Underground exterior. Much of what you've shared on your other vids helped with my decision. I appreciate the work you put in your reviews. Thank you!
@@TalonSei Could you confirm the wheel offset for the factory TRD Pro wheels you swapped out? I'd like to swap out the factory tires with true 35"s (i.e. 35/12.5). I want to have minimal poke, but keep the factory wheels if at all possible. If the factory wheel's offset is +25, I think I should be fine, but if it's a 0-offset, I'm thinking it'll have a little more poke than I'd like. I appreciate any feedback you can provide. Thank you!
4 gen Tacoma is the best vehicle I’ve I’ve driven and owned. So happy I have one. I hope one day ill trade mine in for a v6 model in the next couple years if they come out
Great comparison. I went with the Pro. For very similar reasons. Probably would have never had the chance to compare side by side. Really appreciate your view. Helped ease my curiosity between them. Thanks again.
haha, TRD Jon feature on Stuff and Things was not on my 2024 bingo card. Fox sus FTW. I have fox on everything, including my 2019 TRD Pro Taco. Glad you had the opportunity to test them both side-by-side. That's super helpful for those of us trying to see the (real) differences between the two stock builds. (Plus, another channel's TH's compressor failed, and Toyota doesn't have the parts to fix it, yet. I'm sticking w the Pro. But that bronze color iss siiiiiick.
It’s because the pricing has become ridiculous and they’re becoming unreliable. This is coming from someone who’s owned 1 Tacoma and multiple 4Runners.
tranny issues and rediculous pricetag make it a hard buy for most. i personally can afford it but still awaiting for them to iron out the kinks and once beta testing is done for a year or so after release.
Thanks for the comparison. I think the pro mostly for adjustibility. Agree the rack on trail hunter seems like a waist. Not as practical as the setup you have. Great content
When you get the Landcruiser to test bring it to my place in Northern Colorado and we’ll hook up the boat and trailer to see how it tows. I’m interested in one.
I have a 24 trailhunter and really love it! It was a complete toss up between this and the trd pro, and only ended up with a trailhunter because I found one before a trd pro. I don't think you can go wrong with either truck, and I kinda wish I had the fox suspension on mine, but the trd pro also has unusable back seats? Bone stock I think the trailhunter looks slightly better, but when it comes down to it, your basicay splitting hairs in almost every category. I do like the rarity of the trailhunter, I live in a big city and have only seen one, besides mine. The one thing that I am not happy with at all is the mpg im getting. I'm averaging 15-17 mpg, and that's bone stock, driving it very light footed. Does anyone have any input on this, because It's rated at 22-24mpg....I'm not even close to that???
The only one I haven’t driven is a sport. The off road is nice, as long as it’s a hybrid. My advice is, if you have a 3rd gen don’t upgrade unless it’s to an iforce max model. If you don’t have a truck at all then starting with a gas model 4th gen is a good option.
@TalonSei cool I drive alot for work... I have a Corolla... I'm looking at anything that can be made into an every day Tank... fj cruiser, Tacoma, 4runner, I want gas only though! hybrid and electric just isn't there with cost effective to me. when they come out with an electric car that will go 10K miles on a charge I'll look into them. oh and sitting outside in the sun will charge them... It really bugs my eco friends when I point out that their hybrid actually gets less "gas mileage" because your gas engine is working harder to pull the extra battery weight. now it's faster and more torque and some of that but you are gonna spend $10k+ in a couple years to replace all those batteries and they are full of flammable toxic chemicals too.... soap box speech ended... lol
Who cares? if you are gonna modify pretty much all of the suspension on whatever you are gonna buy...in the end the differences will be nullified by your modifications.
can you fit people in the back? I've read that the trd pro has very limited space because of the front seats, does the trailhunter have the same issue?
Yeah you did. I work for Toyota. The Trd Pro is gay. The Trailhunter is much cooler. My favorite thing about the Trailhunter was the lack of TRD badges all over the inside. Also those seats on the trd pro are going to be a warranty nightmare.
@ why do so many people dis the 4th gen Tacoma saying good bye reliability? I want a truck that last 15-20 years and with the 4th gen they are saying it won’t last and hybrid models are not reliable
@appleztooranges because they take an insanely small sample size of people who experience an issue and amplify it on the internet without forming their own actual opinion. I have 6k on this truck now with zero issues. No one ever wants to highlight the good experiences that some people like myself have, they just feed off negativity.
That's because the trailhunter shield is not Aluminum its steel. The pro is Aluminum. And you can put the trailhunter air compressor on any of the Toyota tacoma's.
Well aren’t the tundra’s under a recall for engines blowing up? And there is a service bulletin for the latest tacos to get their transmissions fixed / replaced.
As a full time tech of over 15 years I'm still hesitant to agree with that. Especially in the higher trims where the hybrid is not an option and forced on you. Overlanding and off roading I want a vehicle as simple as can be. Adding a hybrid system to me is just not logical. If it was an option on the trd pro and trail hunter that would be totally fine. However forcing it to me is the most ignorant idea Toyota has had in several years.
@@mattdagger1480 gotta meet those emission standards. I bought my wife a 2022 Highlander with the old school v6 in 2022. I bought myself a 2024 Camry with the old school natural aspirated 4 cylinder. No turbos, no cvt’s, no hybrids.
All of you media guys trucks look the same with the overlanding crap. Literally just copy each other. Theres Nothing unique about your trucks cause you guys just put on the same exact parts. Don't you want your truck to be unique from the media crowd?
I can answer for you… literally no one has a 24 TRD Pro with C4 armor, no one has BR bahari wheels, custom Sherpa rack on a diamondback, full diode lights with custom rack mount and rock lights, custom wrap and the list goes on and on.
Thanks for putting in the time and effort to put this comparison together. I’m actually going to buy a new 4Runner, but the platform characteristics are so similar that I found your review very helpful. Nice job.
I will bring you a video of my thoughts with the new 4Runner in a few months!
@@TalonSei Do you know what the offset is for the factory TRD Pro wheels that you swapped out? I'm also looking to swap out my tires to 35/12.5, however, I'd like to keep the 18" stock Pro wheels, but would like to keep the poke at bay (maybe just a tad beyond the flared fenders). If they're +25, I think I should be okay, but if they're 0 offset, that may result in more "poke" than I'd like. I appreciate any feedback you can provide.
Not like I have the budget for either of them, but it's a great comparison video 🤙🏻
Great video! @ 5:00 I'm pretty sure the TH skids are steel which is why they are thinner, I installed one on my TRD Offroad and it was very heavy/beefy. Also the description when I bought from my dealer said steel.
I didn’t have a magnet to check but you are right. Curious to see how they hold up to some actual off road uses compared to some beefier aftermarket options 👍🏼
@@TalonSei Yeah hopefully good enough, I'd like to do a build not to disimlair from your truck. The nylon skids that come on the Offroad needed to go ASAP 😄
@@TalonSeithey hold up great so far on my Trail Hunter, although I need to put a lot more use on them as I’ve had it a month plus. @824ECO
@TRDJon cameo. Good perspective, thanks. Land Cruiser video would be cool.
I like your truck and the video comparison to the Trailhunter. We have a 5th gen 4Runner modified for Overlanding and love it. We already have money down on a 2025 4Runner Trailhunter. Will keep it mostly stock this time, towing an off-road trailer now. Yep, there will always be dissagreable people out there, I'm buying ours based on use. It will be our 5th hybrid, we also have a 2024 Rav4 prime. More power, towing and better fuel economy is a win.
So much of this is down to taste and budget.
I went with the trailhunter because it’s a bit more understated looks wise/doesn’t have those seats so I can carry passengers/ mine has a 6’ bed. Perfect for me but everyone’s needs are different.
If you want a 6’ bed and a hybrid like I did, it’s the only trim option rn.
The hybrid is so nice + the 2400w inverter is super useful for work! The air intake sound isn’t that loud honestly unless you’re spooling the turbo constantly ~ if you drive mellow it’s pretty quiet.
Great informative vid, really enjoying my trailhunter!
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching 🤘🏼
@TalonSei Thank you for this comparison vid, my man. I took delivery of my TRD Pro a few weeks ago - same like yours, Underground exterior. Much of what you've shared on your other vids helped with my decision. I appreciate the work you put in your reviews. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
@@TalonSei Could you confirm the wheel offset for the factory TRD Pro wheels you swapped out? I'd like to swap out the factory tires with true 35"s (i.e. 35/12.5). I want to have minimal poke, but keep the factory wheels if at all possible. If the factory wheel's offset is +25, I think I should be fine, but if it's a 0-offset, I'm thinking it'll have a little more poke than I'd like. I appreciate any feedback you can provide. Thank you!
4 gen Tacoma is the best vehicle I’ve I’ve driven and owned. So happy I have one. I hope one day ill trade mine in for a v6 model in the next couple years if they come out
Great comparison. I went with the Pro. For very similar reasons. Probably would have never had the chance to compare side by side. Really appreciate your view. Helped ease my curiosity between them. Thanks again.
haha, TRD Jon feature on Stuff and Things was not on my 2024 bingo card. Fox sus FTW. I have fox on everything, including my 2019 TRD Pro Taco. Glad you had the opportunity to test them both side-by-side. That's super helpful for those of us trying to see the (real) differences between the two stock builds. (Plus, another channel's TH's compressor failed, and Toyota doesn't have the parts to fix it, yet. I'm sticking w the Pro. But that bronze color iss siiiiiick.
Interesting. I guess I’m glad with an arb twin instead of whatever Toyota has from factory 👍🏼
Absolutely! I’m really curious about the Landcruiser
This helps me as I'm considering both but leaning towards pro. 🙏
Toyota haters coming in strong lately 🤦🏻♂️
And 98% of the time, they have never even experienced these trucks in person 😆
It’s because the pricing has become ridiculous and they’re becoming unreliable. This is coming from someone who’s owned 1 Tacoma and multiple 4Runners.
tranny issues and rediculous pricetag make it a hard buy for most. i personally can afford it but still awaiting for them to iron out the kinks and once beta testing is done for a year or so after release.
It’s jealousy
@@TalonSei own 2023 tundra pro no issues love interior tech upgrades take it off road for duck season tackles everything and more.
The trail hunter skid plate is steel
A Land Cruiser would make for interesting content…assuming they’re the vehicle of old with “new” technology built in…thanks for sharing
Thanks for the comparison. I think the pro mostly for adjustibility. Agree the rack on trail hunter seems like a waist. Not as practical as the setup you have. Great content
I love the pro. Just too expensive and we’re not even talking about the markup! Shit happy for you bro. Your rig is sick.
Love my 6ft bed Trailhunter.
Great video! What was the price difference at the time you bought between the TRD Pro and TH?
Nice comparison 👍
Thanks for watching 🫡
When you get the Landcruiser to test bring it to my place in Northern Colorado and we’ll hook up the boat and trailer to see how it tows. I’m interested in one.
Good Mythical Morning opening easter egg!? 😂
I have a 24 trailhunter and really love it! It was a complete toss up between this and the trd pro, and only ended up with a trailhunter because I found one before a trd pro. I don't think you can go wrong with either truck, and I kinda wish I had the fox suspension on mine, but the trd pro also has unusable back seats? Bone stock I think the trailhunter looks slightly better, but when it comes down to it, your basicay splitting hairs in almost every category. I do like the rarity of the trailhunter, I live in a big city and have only seen one, besides mine. The one thing that I am not happy with at all is the mpg im getting. I'm averaging 15-17 mpg, and that's bone stock, driving it very light footed.
Does anyone have any input on this, because It's rated at 22-24mpg....I'm not even close to that???
Yes for the Land Cruiser.
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Trailhunter has thinner but STEEL skid plates while trd pro is aluminum
very cool. I wonder if the other trd models are worth it too .. TRD sport, TRD off road?
The only one I haven’t driven is a sport. The off road is nice, as long as it’s a hybrid. My advice is, if you have a 3rd gen don’t upgrade unless it’s to an iforce max model. If you don’t have a truck at all then starting with a gas model 4th gen is a good option.
@TalonSei cool I drive alot for work... I have a Corolla... I'm looking at anything that can be made into an every day Tank... fj cruiser, Tacoma, 4runner, I want gas only though! hybrid and electric just isn't there with cost effective to me. when they come out with an electric car that will go 10K miles on a charge I'll look into them. oh and sitting outside in the sun will charge them...
It really bugs my eco friends when I point out that their hybrid actually gets less "gas mileage" because your gas engine is working harder to pull the extra battery weight. now it's faster and more torque and some of that but you are gonna spend $10k+ in a couple years to replace all those batteries and they are full of flammable toxic chemicals too....
soap box speech ended... lol
Who cares? if you are gonna modify pretty much all of the suspension on whatever you are gonna buy...in the end the differences will be nullified by your modifications.
can you fit people in the back? I've read that the trd pro has very limited space because of the front seats, does the trailhunter have the same issue?
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Made in Mexico. The cartels love Toyota.
Yes. You should have gotten a 2nd gen. 🤣
I do love the 2nd gens.
Pro
Trail hunter long bed, otherwise Pro.
You bought the wrong gen Tacoma!
Lot of issues with new Tacoma.
6k in… Zero issues.
Yeah you did. I work for Toyota. The Trd Pro is gay. The Trailhunter is much cooler. My favorite thing about the Trailhunter was the lack of TRD badges all over the inside. Also those seats on the trd pro are going to be a warranty nightmare.
Yes you should have gotten the third gen with the natural v6 engine. Not 4 cylinder 😢
Had it. This truck outperforms the 3rd gen in almost every way possible.
@ why do so many people dis the 4th gen Tacoma saying good bye reliability? I want a truck that last 15-20 years and with the 4th gen they are saying it won’t last and hybrid models are not reliable
@appleztooranges because they take an insanely small sample size of people who experience an issue and amplify it on the internet without forming their own actual opinion. I have 6k on this truck now with zero issues. No one ever wants to highlight the good experiences that some people like myself have, they just feed off negativity.
@ I see! I have my 2023 trd pro with 4,200 miles with zero issues as well. Love them both
Glad it’s treating you well!
Sorry, the trd pro isodynamic seats suck ass! Toyota needs to offer a different; more realistic option(s) for the PRO. 🤷♂️😳
Have you experienced them for an extended amount of time? Both on and off road?
@ no, haven’t had the pleasure.
Then I guess the hate comment doesn’t hold any weight 🤷🏼♂️
That's because the trailhunter shield is not Aluminum its steel. The pro is Aluminum. And you can put the trailhunter air compressor on any of the Toyota tacoma's.
From what I gather, neither Toyota truck is a good buy right now.
Where do you gather that from?
Well aren’t the tundra’s under a recall for engines blowing up? And there is a service bulletin for the latest tacos to get their transmissions fixed / replaced.
It's literally been everywhere. Wouldn't touch these current Toyotas. Ranger Raptor all day over the TRD.
As a full time tech of over 15 years I'm still hesitant to agree with that. Especially in the higher trims where the hybrid is not an option and forced on you.
Overlanding and off roading I want a vehicle as simple as can be. Adding a hybrid system to me is just not logical. If it was an option on the trd pro and trail hunter that would be totally fine. However forcing it to me is the most ignorant idea Toyota has had in several years.
@@mattdagger1480 gotta meet those emission standards.
I bought my wife a 2022 Highlander with the old school v6 in 2022.
I bought myself a 2024 Camry with the old school natural aspirated 4 cylinder.
No turbos, no cvt’s, no hybrids.
4th gen is kinda ugly
All of you media guys trucks look the same with the overlanding crap. Literally just copy each other. Theres Nothing unique about your trucks cause you guys just put on the same exact parts. Don't you want your truck to be unique from the media crowd?
Why the hate? I’d love to hear who’s truck looks similar to mine 😂
I can answer for you… literally no one has a 24 TRD Pro with C4 armor, no one has BR bahari wheels, custom Sherpa rack on a diamondback, full diode lights with custom rack mount and rock lights, custom wrap and the list goes on and on.
@@TalonSeiget em Talon hahaha
Homie drank a whole ass cup of haterade for breakfast this morning 😂
They fix the weak spots, plus he uses all that gear. Have you not seen his other videos?
Yep...nah, not really....you bought it to show everyone else why not to buy it
Yes you did! Tacoma is a junk! Worry about you transmission ang you suspension! Have fun...
lol bought the wrong truck in general should have been a Nissan 🫡