"Se Pieta" is a touching operatic lament, and Dame Joan delivered a masterful performance that was as moving in its own way as Beverly Sills's version.
I understand that few would agree with me, but I find this rendition of Cleopatra’s arias more regal, elegant, and ultimately more moving that the Sills’ version. First and foremost Cleopatra was a Queen of Egypt and in love with the Master of Rome. To my mind Sutherland catches the note of queenly dignity to perfection. And the voice is free, round, and brilliant in its florid flourishes. Plus what a great opera!
I think people with taste will agree with you. Sills sounded "pert", no matter what she sang, which isn't suitable for a Händel or a Donizetti queen (her tendency in the latter repertoire to embellish as if she was singing "Ah! non giunge" only made matters worse).
Actually, I very much agree with you, particularly in terms of the opulence and majestic sound of Sutherland's voice, so perfectly matched for this role. Even more so than Sills. That being said, I also greatly admires Sills Cleopatra equally, but for different reasons. In my opinion (which bottom line means nothing really), I prefer Sills musical interpretation, with its ornamentation, tempi, and clarity, so perfectly matched for Handel's singing. Both of these magnificent sopranos, in my opinion, were the perfect Cleopatra to date. I've still never heard anyone since, even come close to either of them. Since the 60s I still love them both equally in this role. BRAVA Sutherland! BRAVA Sills!
@@artdanks4846Sutherland e Sills sono assai differenti ma egualmente grandiose e non si pestano i piedi. Devo pero' dire che Montserrat Caballe, che ho ascoltato dal vivo nel ruolo, delinea la Cleopatra perfetta, con un suono opulento e drammatico che veramente faceva pensare agli affreschi barocchi romani del 700. Diciamo che possiamo incoronare tutte e tre i nostri soprani quali Regine d'Egitto a pari merito. Purtroppo oggi non esiste l'eguale e dobbiamo accontentarci di finte soubrette spaventose e ridicole ( Dessay, Bartoli, Devhieille ecc ecc) molto aiutate poi in teatro da regie veramente cretine.
Thank you for sharing this great recording. The Joan’s voice sounds clear, warm. I like so very much. By the way I discovered that you are a follower of Tarja Turunen in Instagram and that’s great too because I’ve arrived to the opera through gothic and symphonic metal. So I decided to study classical singing 🎤 but in Nicaragua the things changed abruptly by the sociopolitical situation we have . The dictatorship of Daniel Ortega and Rosario Murillo took control of almost everything including the operistic culture because the operas are presented by Fundacion Incanto witch belongs to Laureano Ortega Murillo {he is song of Daniel Ortega and Rosario Murillo) who’ makes of casting Star. Many professional singers like me unfortunately lost our job and literally we were bad treated by not being able to do the game to the dictatorship. The only way to training my voice is here in my house, specially now with the pandemic situation. I hope when democracy returns to our country to have the chance of rebuilding the lyric art. Huge from Managua, Nicaragua 🇳🇮 🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🙏💙🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮
@@Anduril919 Silvana, she was Slinger in festival Puccini from Torre del Lago. They were collaborating for many years with the productions made by Laureano Ortega, the son of dictator Daniel Ortega. Sadly the lyric culture is undet his shadow
@@KarlaMatus79 Oh well. He (the dictator’s son) sang opposite Silvana that night. What an absolutely useless tenor! 😬. Unhearable with barely any technique to speak of. Such are the privileges of being the dictator’s son.
@@Anduril919 yes ir is you’d surprise if I tell you that Laureano and I had the same teacher a long time ago, unfortunately I was practically apart of the lyric scene because u don’t have physical beauty, but my talent and my voice was better than him.another companions were apart too because all of us made “shadow” to the figure of Laureano
Do you know if the complete recording is available anywhere in such good sound? The one I bought isn't in such good sound and furthermore, some idiotic amateur has split it up in countless very short tracks - Cornelia's aria alone takes up 18 tracks.
@@JoanSutherlandFan that is so kind of you, thank you very much! I have sent an e-mail to the e-mail registered on your profile here on YT, I look forward to hearing from you :)
Why did Bonynge feel the need to tamper with her sound??? This is early Sutherland and bright, dramatically engaged, yet also round and full. See, that’s what happens when non-singers give their stupid opinions!!!
It was Bonynge who encouraged her to use the lightness of tone suited to the bel canto repertoire. Before that her tone was considered a bit steely. Some of us were there at the time and noticed the difference. It was only a change in technique. He didn't tamper with the instrument.
Sutherland would never have thought to sing roles like this had it not been for Bonynge. He basically transformed her into the greatness she became. (Although I DO agree that as the years passed her sound became somewhat more muffled and hooty. Who knows what may have caused that. But she was still great!!
This was the year I was blessed to hear her very first Norma performance - here in Vancouver. She was at her absolute vocal peak that year.
"Se Pieta" is a touching operatic lament, and Dame Joan delivered a masterful performance that was as moving in its own way as Beverly Sills's version.
I understand that few would agree with me, but I find this rendition of Cleopatra’s arias more regal, elegant, and ultimately more moving that the Sills’ version. First and foremost Cleopatra was a Queen of Egypt and in love with the Master of Rome. To my mind Sutherland catches the note of queenly dignity to perfection. And the voice is free, round, and brilliant in its florid flourishes. Plus what a great opera!
Beverly Sills had that air of a subrette around her
I think people with taste will agree with you. Sills sounded "pert", no matter what she sang, which isn't suitable for a Händel or a Donizetti queen (her tendency in the latter repertoire to embellish as if she was singing "Ah! non giunge" only made matters worse).
Actually, I very much agree with you, particularly in terms of the opulence and majestic sound of Sutherland's voice, so perfectly matched for this role. Even more so than Sills.
That being said, I also greatly admires Sills Cleopatra equally, but for different reasons. In my opinion (which bottom line means nothing really), I prefer Sills musical interpretation, with its ornamentation, tempi, and clarity, so perfectly matched for Handel's singing. Both of these magnificent sopranos, in my opinion, were the perfect Cleopatra to date. I've still never heard anyone since, even come close to either of them. Since the 60s I still love them both equally in this role. BRAVA Sutherland! BRAVA Sills!
@@artdanks4846Sutherland e Sills sono assai differenti ma egualmente grandiose e non si pestano i piedi. Devo pero' dire che Montserrat Caballe, che ho ascoltato dal vivo nel ruolo, delinea la Cleopatra perfetta, con un suono opulento e drammatico che veramente faceva pensare agli affreschi barocchi romani del 700. Diciamo che possiamo incoronare tutte e tre i nostri soprani quali Regine d'Egitto a pari merito. Purtroppo oggi non esiste l'eguale e dobbiamo accontentarci di finte soubrette spaventose e ridicole ( Dessay, Bartoli, Devhieille ecc ecc) molto aiutate poi in teatro da regie veramente cretine.
@@fabriziogarzi9892I 100% agree with you! Caballe was phenomenal!
Thank you for posting this. Just what I needed today.
Vinícius, você é incrível! Durante quanto tempo eu procurei "Non disperar" na voz de Dame Joan Sutherland! Parabéns e muito obrigado!
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Vini Soaris Pity she didn't make a commercial recording of the whole opera! (only excerpts)
Divina
Thank you for sharing this great recording. The Joan’s voice sounds clear, warm. I like so very much. By the way I discovered that you are a follower of Tarja Turunen in Instagram and that’s great too because I’ve arrived to the opera through gothic and symphonic metal. So I decided to study classical singing 🎤 but in Nicaragua the things changed abruptly by the sociopolitical situation we have . The dictatorship of Daniel Ortega and Rosario Murillo took control of almost everything including the operistic culture because the operas are presented by Fundacion Incanto witch belongs to Laureano Ortega Murillo {he is song of Daniel Ortega and Rosario Murillo) who’ makes of casting Star. Many professional singers like me unfortunately lost our job and literally we were bad treated by not being able to do the game to the dictatorship. The only way to training my voice is here in my house, specially now with the pandemic situation. I hope when democracy returns to our country to have the chance of rebuilding the lyric art. Huge from Managua, Nicaragua 🇳🇮 🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🙏💙🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮
I got to watch Opera in Managua a few years back (Tosca - Soprano was Silvana Froli). Hi from the Philippines!
@@Anduril919 Silvana, she was Slinger in festival Puccini from Torre del Lago. They were collaborating for many years with the productions made by Laureano Ortega, the son of dictator Daniel Ortega. Sadly the lyric culture is undet his shadow
@@KarlaMatus79 Oh well. He (the dictator’s son) sang opposite Silvana that night. What an absolutely useless tenor! 😬. Unhearable with barely any technique to speak of. Such are the privileges of being the dictator’s son.
@@Anduril919 yes ir is you’d surprise if I tell you that Laureano and I had the same teacher a long time ago, unfortunately I was practically apart of the lyric scene because u don’t have physical beauty, but my talent and my voice was better than him.another companions were apart too because all of us made “shadow” to the figure of Laureano
11:08, Tu la mia stella sei
Do you know if the complete recording is available anywhere in such good sound? The one I bought isn't in such good sound and furthermore, some idiotic amateur has split it up in countless very short tracks - Cornelia's aria alone takes up 18 tracks.
I never found an "official" release of this performance. Give me your email and I sent you the version I have. But it's not in tracks.
@@JoanSutherlandFan that is so kind of you, thank you very much! I have sent an e-mail to the e-mail registered on your profile here on YT, I look forward to hearing from you :)
Why did Bonynge feel the need to tamper with her sound??? This is early Sutherland and bright, dramatically engaged, yet also round and full. See, that’s what happens when non-singers give their stupid opinions!!!
This sound is largely because of Bonynge.
@@barbaranorthwood That's right. He was a brilliant coach.
@@barbaranorthwood No it's largely due to Sutherland's God given instrument
It was Bonynge who encouraged her to use the lightness of tone suited to the bel canto repertoire. Before that her tone was considered a bit steely. Some of us were there at the time and noticed the difference. It was only a change in technique. He didn't tamper with the instrument.
Sutherland would never have thought to sing roles like this had it not been for Bonynge. He basically transformed her into the greatness she became. (Although I DO agree that as the years passed her sound became somewhat more muffled and hooty. Who knows what may have caused that. But she was still great!!
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My intention here ain't gain money, but only to show and share my admiration for Joan Sutherland and sometimes, Birgit Nilsson ;)
@@JoanSutherlandFan So VERY much appreciated!!!!