That unit looks like an improvisation of the turntable/speakers combination of the 70s. The only thing missing is bass, treble, and balance controls like the vintage ones had.
Unique design, good sound... honestly, I'm impressed! This reminds me of the sound of systems I grew up hearing my parents' records on. Crosley seems to have taken the insults about their suitcase players and channeled it into building some really nice basic systems. Good for them! (I like that new logo, too.)
I never balance the tone arm by floating it. I just use a scale until the weight is at the recommended tracking force, and set the dial to match the weight. It’s quicker and much more accurate.
Great, detailed review. A single drop (NO MORE!) of silicone oil on the shaft of that sub-platter might do wonders for the wow and flutter figure, as well as the rumble. That said, it looks like Crosley might have built a nice little beginner system! And kudos to them for providing a real platter mat instead of a felt slip mat. I'm really impressed and surprised! Oh, and I'll bet that there is a speed adjustment inside the unit that a technician (like me) could easily adjust for you. My only real concern is how long will it last?
The speed inconsistency you see with those strobe discs is probably not the fault of the turntable; it's that the strobe markings are silkscreened slightly off center. You can see the oscillations are consistent in frequency and seem to correspond to the rotation of the platter. As for 'how long will it last', I would bet that the motor is not the ultra-cheap thing Crosley uses in its Cruisers and all-in-ones. The motor in my Audio-Technica LP60 is a bit larger than what you find in portables, and of better quality, and I'll bet Croslely has provided a similar quality motor in this. It looks to me they opted for good quality everywhere else - the tone arm, the platter, the spindle, the speakers.
The sad thing about newer Crosley and Victrola "high-end "models is the widespread dropping of 78. The Crosley Coda now remains the last "high-end" model from either of the two that supports 78, and that one is about to get discontinued. As someone who pretty much buys shellac as frequently as vinyl, this is kind of worrying. At least I'm pretty happy with my LP120X, but I'd like to have more non-suitcase options in case I had to recommend some to a friend.
you should give it a break in period before adjustng it they sometime change but if it does not the rubber mat will not slow it down even when you play a record and place tone arm on record if its turning fast it will not slow it down I have tested this on 6 turntables ,belt ,ldler and direct drive
I like the vintage 60s or 70s brassy styling of this Crosley C72 turntable system. I just wish it had a pitch control knob to make easy pitch adjustments, but as you said, Record-ology, perhaps in time, the speeds will adjust when the motor settles a bit after more use. :)
That is actually a very nice unit. I do love the styling with the wood and brass accents. I am guessing that is vinyl wrap and now real wood veneer. However, I have to agree with the other comments that it would be nice if it at least and tone controls and balance as well as an auxiliary input. In addition, it would've been nice if they could've at least added speed adjust pots on the back panel like other recent units did, if not an outright pitch control knob. This set would be a nice way if somebody wants to get back into playing records again, but an aux input would've been nice as they could also add a cassette or CD player as well, making a nice little component setup instead of using one of those "all-in-one" things. Now as using the term "vinyl" to describe the format. I agree using "vinyl" is perfectly acceptable as a description, i.e, "Is that album available on vinyl?", or "I just found a copy on vinyl". However, I do cringe when I hear or see something such as, "Could you recommend something to play my vinyls on?" or "I just bought some vinyls at the thrift store!" To be pedantic about it, that actual proper term is a "phonograph record", but I do sometimes use "vinyl record" and often times just "record". Also, "LP" is often acceptable, i.e "That is available on CD, Cassette, and LP.". Now, I've have asked bands, like just this past week when I was in Atlanta, GA for ProgPower USA, if they are coming out with a new record. That is using "record" in a general sense as a new recording, regardless of what format it may actually be released on, whether it be digital download, CD, or vinyl or even cassette. In the past, when we mentioned "record", everybody knew exactly what we were talking about as that was basically the ONLY way to get physical copy to listen on. Even when cassettes became more available, when we mentioned "record", it was clear we were talking about vinyl, as we often referred to cassettes as "cassettes" or even just "tape". Now today, with so many formats available, it is often necessary to describe the format meaning "vinyl record" as opposed to something else like CD or even digital download. Just my long-winded take.
Just referring to wanting to put some music on can also work; just don't say "can I play some 'sounds' or 'tunes'". I've heard that before and it really sounds as if it needs to be corrected. Of course there's also generic terms for 8-track (8-track cassette) and Minidisc. These seem to be safe terms. (Although so is I'd like to put a 'recording' on; sounds wrong though). LOL. Best to stick to the generic terms I'd suggest. 'Record', 'Tape' and 'CD', in the main I'd think. Just saying!🤔
I just bought a C62 today and had a difficult time putting the counterweight on the tonearm, was quite surprised on how easy it was to balance the tonearm and since i got the upgraded version with the anti-skate added i could really adjust it although i didn't have to use the Anti-skate. It sounds awesome and it does sound better than the suitcase players like you mentioned in your video.
Qed cables are not directional. The writing tells the direction of draw during manufacture. It doesn't matter which way round you put them, so long as you put both left and right channels round the same way. So QED says, anyway. To be honest I'm not convinced any cables are directional.
I'm surprised you covered it! Thanks a bunch my dude! Love the videos as always and love the work you do for the community! Also, what record were you playing during the test?
for 255.00 thats not bad I like this TT the metal platter which looks very heavy as you can see this was cast thats typical for it to wobble when its cooling I am sure if they wanted it to be perfect they could do it but would add cost to the unit ,and it looks easy to adjust the speed with bottom panel removed but like you said I would give this a break in period before adjusting speed and on the sub platter it is always a good idea to drop a little oil in the spindle bearing every type of system with a sub platter suggests this from once a year to every six months depending if it is used a lot,like I always say to myself you show a lot of new and cool looking record players and they are great looking and not expensive this channel is a joy to watch ,how you find these record players is amazing but I always look forwards to unboxing vids Its like I am doing unboxing myself thanks again JRo
Break-in is a mental thing, not a physical thing. The speakers don't change, you just get used to their sound. It's very convenient for manufacturers that the recommended break-in period tends to be slightly longer than the free return window.
I do think speakers, being mechanical, do break in. But, I also think it takes a few hours at most and not the hundreds of hours often touted. As for electronics, nope.
Of course another term, which solves the 'vinyl mode' brings, is to use the term 'phono' mode. This dates back to the older days when record players were referred to as a 'phonogram', and the radio as a 'wireless'/'wireless receiver' (or 'radiogram'). And a tape player as a 'cassette player'. Etc. Just saying!
Nice system,impressive tone arm! I agree, it's a great little system for someone just starting out playing vinyl or someone getting back into it! And yes "Vinyl" is acceptable, and "Vinyls" is not!
as far as all in one systems go, I've seen a lot of people say the angel horn all in one system is good value for money. I'm almost inclined to believe them since it has a also has an AT3600L cartridge instead of the normal ceramic one you see in most suitcase systems.
Lol that would be awesome! A few years back they did sell a C10 and C20 which were developed in partnership with Pro-ject. They were great and sold for around $500.
Good review. I have read for years, now, that AT 'discontinued' the 3600L and they're still being built into brand new units. Something doesn't add up. I have trouble, though, with spending $250+ dollars for something with those specs. The price/sound quality ratio is just not there. Crosley could, as so often, just do a little bit more and knock it out of the ball park. Edit: To be fair, I suffer from perfect pitch, so my standards aren't normal.
Interesting about the 3600.....what you said is true. I think they only OEM it so that it doesn't end up competing with their higher end carts. Yet its a lucrative market for companies who want an affordable MM cart. They do sell the replacement styli still.
This would be excellent for a teenager, say 13 to 16, who wants to play his "vinyls". This simple product would teach a teenager the basics while also providing an enjoyable sound quality. This IS entry level. Because, someone could enter the audio lifestyle with this gateway device. Unlike the junk products that ruin records and produce unlistenable sound- which never was entry level. Those are novelty level. People say, "Oh wasn't it funny and vintage, let's give it to the thrift store now". That's novelty level equipment. Entry level equipment gives this impression "Now I get it, records do sound really good. I love this. I'm going to give this stereo to a neighbor kid and buy some really good pieces now!" That is "entry level". They should have used an old-fashioned tone control, the kind that used to be on very old radios and did amazing things. One rotary control created a whole lot of sound variations. If you wanted to study the sonics, rotate till you heard detail. Quiet night? Turn volume low, turn tone control to make the sound sharp but robust at Iow level. I don't know exactly how they did it, but they were amazing. Great fun to see you test this thing out. Thanks!
People who get upset over the term 'vinyl' need to get over themselves. We had a summer guest, recently, who rejected anything which was 'Dr. Atkins'. It had to be 'Keto' or it wasn't' the real deal. The main thing is that this wonderful, ancient technology is back en vogue!
Have you ever encountered a long playing record causing the tonearm to vibrate as if a mini vibrator is attched to the turntable? Although I noticed it on only 2 of my old LPs, I wonder what's causing it. I checked the lubrication of the table is quite sufficient. I hope you have some ideas about this. Thanks pal.
Crosley's specs on the C72 says the platter is steel. The speakers are 60 W (30 x 2) with a max 120 W. Did you get the specs from the owners manual? I am confused.
@@Recordology Rega hinges are just pieces of plastic which are molded with a groove that flexes. The hinge is literally bending a piece of plastic back and forth! Its inevitable that it will break in short order. To add insult to injury they are riveted on, so you have to drill them out to replace them. Basically they are "hinges" to claim they have hinges but the intent is you always just lift the cover straight off - the hinge is just for alignment when setting the cover back down.
For something in the mid-$200 range, this thing seems to punch above its weight. Crosley has actually impressed me with this product. It would not be an easy sell to someone 'just starting out' with records (assuming they really aren't sure what to expect, or have budget concerns), but for someone stepping up from entry-level, this would be a fantastic choice. Well worth the investment. My gripes (and I almost always have some!) are limited to two: No tone controls, and no direct wired aux-in. These are just things I feel should be provided with every system that has an amplifier. Both are super-easy to implement, and I don't feel there's a good excuse for omitting them.
yes I agree tone controls are important I am sure it cannot add to cost of this unit if they put in tone controls ,crosley is making great units look at the carbon fiber tone arm thats not bad
Two things. The power handling rating of the speakers (80w) has no bearing on how loud they will sound. That is a function of the amplifier power, amplifier gain, speaker sensitivity and impedance. The 80w means if you pump more than 80w into the speakers you may damage the drivers. And.. Spring clip terminals are dire, and in no way "proper". Out of interest the amplifier puts out 30w per channel, though Crosley do not say if that is into 8 or 4 Ohm speakers. In any case it is fine for small to medium rooms.
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That unit looks like an improvisation of the turntable/speakers combination of the 70s. The only thing missing is bass, treble, and balance controls like the vintage ones had.
I was just about to say the same thing. It reminds me of my old Sony HP-161 I bought for college in 1975.
And the 8-Track player/recorder!
yes I wish they wood have them noticed newer records of today seem to have more bass as compared to records of the 70's and 80's
it actually has phono and line though.
So true, my dad had a similar BSR unit in the 70’s which I grew up listening to ❤
Crosley products are improving and that’s a good sign. Still missing are the bass, treble and balance controls.
they have one called Nocturne with those controls
Unique design, good sound... honestly, I'm impressed! This reminds me of the sound of systems I grew up hearing my parents' records on. Crosley seems to have taken the insults about their suitcase players and channeled it into building some really nice basic systems. Good for them! (I like that new logo, too.)
I never balance the tone arm by floating it. I just use a scale until the weight is at the recommended tracking force, and set the dial to match the weight. It’s quicker and much more accurate.
Great, detailed review. A single drop (NO MORE!) of silicone oil on the shaft of that sub-platter might do wonders for the wow and flutter figure, as well as the rumble. That said, it looks like Crosley might have built a nice little beginner system! And kudos to them for providing a real platter mat instead of a felt slip mat. I'm really impressed and surprised! Oh, and I'll bet that there is a speed adjustment inside the unit that a technician (like me) could easily adjust for you. My only real concern is how long will it last?
The speed inconsistency you see with those strobe discs is probably not the fault of the turntable; it's that the strobe markings are silkscreened slightly off center. You can see the oscillations are consistent in frequency and seem to correspond to the rotation of the platter.
As for 'how long will it last', I would bet that the motor is not the ultra-cheap thing Crosley uses in its Cruisers and all-in-ones. The motor in my Audio-Technica LP60 is a bit larger than what you find in portables, and of better quality, and I'll bet Croslely has provided a similar quality motor in this. It looks to me they opted for good quality everywhere else - the tone arm, the platter, the spindle, the speakers.
Sounds good with headphones. You're so right it takes time to break in speakers etc.
Good night 😴
The sad thing about newer Crosley and Victrola "high-end "models is the widespread dropping of 78.
The Crosley Coda now remains the last "high-end" model from either of the two that supports 78, and that one is about to get discontinued.
As someone who pretty much buys shellac as frequently as vinyl, this is kind of worrying. At least I'm pretty happy with my LP120X, but I'd like to have more non-suitcase options in case I had to recommend some to a friend.
Try putting the rubber mat on, then the strobe disc. I'm betting the speed will be better...
you should give it a break in period before adjustng it they sometime change but if it does not the rubber mat will not slow it down even when you play a record and place tone arm on record if its turning fast it will not slow it down I have tested this on 6 turntables ,belt ,ldler and direct drive
Looks nice that Crosley music system , and i love the sound of Enoch Light !!!
I like the vintage 60s or 70s brassy styling of this Crosley C72 turntable system. I just wish it had a pitch control knob to make easy pitch adjustments, but as you said, Record-ology, perhaps in time, the speeds will adjust when the motor settles a bit after more use. :)
Classic Record-ology, I love it !!! 😁👍
That is actually a very nice unit. I do love the styling with the wood and brass accents. I am guessing that is vinyl wrap and now real wood veneer. However, I have to agree with the other comments that it would be nice if it at least and tone controls and balance as well as an auxiliary input. In addition, it would've been nice if they could've at least added speed adjust pots on the back panel like other recent units did, if not an outright pitch control knob. This set would be a nice way if somebody wants to get back into playing records again, but an aux input would've been nice as they could also add a cassette or CD player as well, making a nice little component setup instead of using one of those "all-in-one" things.
Now as using the term "vinyl" to describe the format. I agree using "vinyl" is perfectly acceptable as a description, i.e, "Is that album available on vinyl?", or "I just found a copy on vinyl". However, I do cringe when I hear or see something such as, "Could you recommend something to play my vinyls on?" or "I just bought some vinyls at the thrift store!" To be pedantic about it, that actual proper term is a "phonograph record", but I do sometimes use "vinyl record" and often times just "record". Also, "LP" is often acceptable, i.e "That is available on CD, Cassette, and LP.". Now, I've have asked bands, like just this past week when I was in Atlanta, GA for ProgPower USA, if they are coming out with a new record. That is using "record" in a general sense as a new recording, regardless of what format it may actually be released on, whether it be digital download, CD, or vinyl or even cassette. In the past, when we mentioned "record", everybody knew exactly what we were talking about as that was basically the ONLY way to get physical copy to listen on. Even when cassettes became more available, when we mentioned "record", it was clear we were talking about vinyl, as we often referred to cassettes as "cassettes" or even just "tape". Now today, with so many formats available, it is often necessary to describe the format meaning "vinyl record" as opposed to something else like CD or even digital download. Just my long-winded take.
Just referring to wanting to put some music on can also work; just don't say "can I play some 'sounds' or 'tunes'". I've heard that before and it really sounds as if it needs to be corrected. Of course there's also generic terms for 8-track (8-track cassette) and Minidisc. These seem to be safe terms. (Although so is I'd like to put a 'recording' on; sounds wrong though). LOL. Best to stick to the generic terms I'd suggest. 'Record', 'Tape' and 'CD', in the main I'd think. Just saying!🤔
I just bought a C62 today and had a difficult time putting the counterweight on the tonearm, was quite surprised on how easy it was to balance the tonearm and since i got the upgraded version with the anti-skate added i could really adjust it although i didn't have to use the Anti-skate. It sounds awesome and it does sound better than the suitcase players like you mentioned in your video.
Great review ty
Thanks for watching!
Some of these Crosleys seem surprisingly nice.
Really like the look of this one! Has a 70s kinda vibe to it.
It sounds really good.
Great video, please change the speaker wire for some Quality QED wire, it will improve the sound.Remember to follow the writing direction on wire. 😊
Didn't I?
Qed cables are not directional. The writing tells the direction of draw during manufacture. It doesn't matter which way round you put them, so long as you put both left and right channels round the same way. So QED says, anyway. To be honest I'm not convinced any cables are directional.
I'm surprised you covered it! Thanks a bunch my dude! Love the videos as always and love the work you do for the community!
Also, what record were you playing during the test?
Thanks again!
for 255.00 thats not bad I like this TT the metal platter which looks very heavy as you can see this was cast thats typical for it to wobble when its cooling I am sure if they wanted it to be perfect they could do it but would add cost to the unit ,and it looks easy to adjust the speed with bottom panel removed but like you said I would give this a break in period before adjusting speed and on the sub platter it is always a good idea to drop a little oil in the spindle bearing every type of system with a sub platter suggests this from once a year to every six months depending if it is used a lot,like I always say to myself you show a lot of new and cool looking record players and they are great looking and not expensive this channel is a joy to watch ,how you find these record players is amazing but I always look forwards to unboxing vids Its like I am doing unboxing myself thanks again JRo
Thank you my friend!
Break-in is a mental thing, not a physical thing. The speakers don't change, you just get used to their sound. It's very convenient for manufacturers that the recommended break-in period tends to be slightly longer than the free return window.
Interesting!
I do think speakers, being mechanical, do break in. But, I also think it takes a few hours at most and not the hundreds of hours often touted. As for electronics, nope.
Of course another term, which solves the 'vinyl mode' brings, is to use the term 'phono' mode. This dates back to the older days when record players were referred to as a 'phonogram', and the radio as a 'wireless'/'wireless receiver' (or 'radiogram'). And a tape player as a 'cassette player'. Etc. Just saying!
Nice system,impressive tone arm! I agree, it's a great little system for someone just starting out playing vinyl or someone getting back into it! And yes "Vinyl" is acceptable, and "Vinyls" is not!
as far as all in one systems go, I've seen a lot of people say the angel horn all in one system is good value for money. I'm almost inclined to believe them since it has a also has an AT3600L cartridge instead of the normal ceramic one you see in most suitcase systems.
Great!
I still await Crosley trolling everyone and releasing an audiophile class system at a moderate price and just baffle the world.
Lol that would be awesome! A few years back they did sell a C10 and C20 which were developed in partnership with Pro-ject. They were great and sold for around $500.
Awesome 👍😎
Thank you very much
Seem a good machine
Good review. I have read for years, now, that AT 'discontinued' the 3600L and they're still being built into brand new units. Something doesn't add up.
I have trouble, though, with spending $250+ dollars for something with those specs. The price/sound quality ratio is just not there. Crosley could, as so often, just do a little bit more and knock it out of the ball park.
Edit: To be fair, I suffer from perfect pitch, so my standards aren't normal.
Interesting about the 3600.....what you said is true. I think they only OEM it so that it doesn't end up competing with their higher end carts. Yet its a lucrative market for companies who want an affordable MM cart. They do sell the replacement styli still.
This would be excellent for a teenager, say 13 to 16, who wants to play his "vinyls". This simple product would teach a teenager the basics while also providing an enjoyable sound quality. This IS entry level. Because, someone could enter the audio lifestyle with this gateway device. Unlike the junk products that ruin records and produce unlistenable sound- which never was entry level. Those are novelty level. People say, "Oh wasn't it funny and vintage, let's give it to the thrift store now". That's novelty level equipment.
Entry level equipment gives this impression "Now I get it, records do sound really good. I love this. I'm going to give this stereo to a neighbor kid and buy some really good pieces now!" That is "entry level".
They should have used an old-fashioned tone control, the kind that used to be on very old radios and did amazing things. One rotary control created a whole lot of sound variations. If you wanted to study the sonics, rotate till you heard detail. Quiet night? Turn volume low, turn tone control to make the sound sharp but robust at Iow level. I don't know exactly how they did it, but they were amazing.
Great fun to see you test this thing out. Thanks!
Great comment! :)
People who get upset over the term 'vinyl' need to get over themselves. We had a summer guest, recently, who rejected anything which was 'Dr. Atkins'. It had to be 'Keto' or it wasn't' the real deal. The main thing is that this wonderful, ancient technology is back en vogue!
Have you ever encountered a long playing record causing the tonearm to vibrate as if a mini vibrator is attched to the turntable? Although I noticed it on only 2 of my old LPs, I wonder what's causing it. I checked the lubrication of the table is quite sufficient. I hope you have some ideas about this. Thanks pal.
Odd - no Ive never seen this. Are the records pressed off center?
@@Recordology I don't think so.
Crosley's specs on the C72 says the platter is steel. The speakers are 60 W (30 x 2) with a max 120 W. Did you get the specs from the owners manual? I am confused.
The specifications I cited were on the box and on the Amazon listing
@@Recordology Ah. Anyways, have a good weekend, my friend.
Better quality cover hinges than a Rega! hahahaha
Really? I've never touched a Rega (yet.)
@@Recordology Rega hinges are just pieces of plastic which are molded with a groove that flexes. The hinge is literally bending a piece of plastic back and forth! Its inevitable that it will break in short order. To add insult to injury they are riveted on, so you have to drill them out to replace them. Basically they are "hinges" to claim they have hinges but the intent is you always just lift the cover straight off - the hinge is just for alignment when setting the cover back down.
Crosely go from strength to strength
Why do i want this?
Hey look 👀 it’s the 70’s all over again wooden speakers 🔊 lol 😂
For something in the mid-$200 range, this thing seems to punch above its weight. Crosley has actually impressed me with this product.
It would not be an easy sell to someone 'just starting out' with records (assuming they really aren't sure what to expect, or have budget concerns), but for someone stepping up from entry-level, this would be a fantastic choice. Well worth the investment.
My gripes (and I almost always have some!) are limited to two: No tone controls, and no direct wired aux-in. These are just things I feel should be provided with every system that has an amplifier. Both are super-easy to implement, and I don't feel there's a good excuse for omitting them.
yes I agree tone controls are important I am sure it cannot add to cost of this unit if they put in tone controls ,crosley is making great units look at the carbon fiber tone arm thats not bad
Possessed🤣🤣🤣
No way to connect a stereo cassette deck to it.
Two things. The power handling rating of the speakers (80w) has no bearing on how loud they will sound. That is a function of the amplifier power, amplifier gain, speaker sensitivity and impedance. The 80w means if you pump more than 80w into the speakers you may damage the drivers.
And.. Spring clip terminals are dire, and in no way "proper".
Out of interest the amplifier puts out 30w per channel, though Crosley do not say if that is into 8 or 4 Ohm speakers. In any case it is fine for small to medium rooms.
I got a Victrola for $31 at wall mart
Nice!
Oh, come on, Mr. Ology! Stop using rap to test the Bluetooth. You’re better than that. Play Enoch Light like you always do. Or Patsy Cline or Glenn Miller or Mitch Miller…