1:30 No! I understand what you are trying to do, i.e to help others understand but the "nut width is LITERALLY the overall width of the nut and NOT the distance between string centres. However, the "string spacing" over the bridge IS (literally) the distance between centres of the 1st and 6th string. This IS important that folk understand this and I applaud you for trying to advise. (All my flat tops are 12 fret wider fretboard guitars.
thanks Lewin - great stuff for the Metric folk - here are some conversions of the nut width of the 3 guitars kindly reviewed here by Lewin - Recording King ROS-627 nut width of 1 -13/16" converts to ~ 46mm - Journey Instruments RT-410 nut width of 1-3/4" converts to ~ 44.5mm - John Lennon EJ-160E nut width of 1.68" converts to ~42.7mm Note: as corrected by Lewin in the comments below, "the Nut width refers to the width of the guitar’s neck at the nut" and not the distance between the low and high E strings near the nut
Fret board width aka nut width is actually the distance across the fretboard at the nut or in other words the fretboard measured directly next to the nut. This measurement can vary from the actual nut width because someone might change a nut for example from plastic to bone (or ivory) and when trimming the nut down may leave it slightly wider or slightly narrower then the actual width of the fretboard as measured just in front of the nut. This ROS-627 has a 1-13/16" fretboard width directly next to the nut. Some vintage steel string wide neck guitars have even larger of 1-7/8" (another 1/16" wider) which is also the width of most 12 string acoustic guitars.
Thank you for addressing the neck width issue. However I would like to check the numbers you are giving us if I could(but I can’t). You are saying string spacing when I think you mean nut width. I would prefer both measurements for the same guitar. I have two guitars with 1-11/16 inch nuts but one of them has about a 35.5mm string spacing and the other is almost 36.5mm at the nut. I have to use mm for measuring such small differences. All guitars with 1.75 inch nuts that I have measured have a 1.5 inch string spacing. Then there is the issue of how much space is between the strings and the neck because of possibly muting the high e sting with the fretting hand. You have to play the guitar to check that out for comfort. Anyway I wish guitar specs always included nut width, string spacing at nut, and string spacing on the saddle.
Sir, I've measured, using a dial caliper, a number of guitars that were advertised to have various nut widths. A very common example that's reported most of the time to have 1.75 inch nut width is the typical Gibson "Les Paul". Mark my words, the distance from the upper edge of the bass 'E' string to the lower edge of the treble 'E' string usually comes in at under 1.500 inch, (using 10 gauge strings) though, the measurement from the top to the bottom of the nut itself, is 1.750 inch, give or take a few thousandths of an inch.
I play both electric and classical and when switching between the two always felt vey strange to my left hand specially when it comes to Fender necks. I got this problem " solved" when i first played a PRS with a wide fat profile , those are my favorite necks on electrics.
Not sure I agree with your explanation of 'nut width ' or 'neck width'. I thought it was a reference to the actual width of the nut rather than the E-E spacing. My guitars all seem to work that way ??
Nut width refers to the width of the guitar’s neck at the nut. String spacing is the distance from the low E string to the high E string and how they spread out as they get closer to the saddle. Some manufacturers take this measurement at the 14th fret, while others take it right at the saddle.
Nut width is measured from one edge of the fretboard to the other edge--not low string to high string. I like 1 7/8" on steel string, but they're hard to find unless you order a new one. The exception is parlor guitars on which that's a fairly standard width, but then at 6'4" I would look kind of silly with a parlor guitar. I can get by fine on a 1 3/4" neck though.
What is the measurement on a "small" neck size on electric guitars? I totally agree with you that the tiny differences in neck size make a huge difference. I have an "inexpensive" epiphone SG with a very small neck that plays like a dream and a "real" SG with a larger neck that just does not feel right. I totally prefer the epiphone even though it is literally a 10th of the price!
We players with smaller, weaker hands put a lot more thought into this subject, as nut/neck with and fretboard radius make the difference between playing enjoyment and painful frustration.
Very informative. I don't think I ever knew that much about wide vs narrow neck guitars or the reasons for them. The wider easier to finger pick the narrower easier for strumming. Good to know. John Lennon loved his J-160 E.
Really enjoyed your video on the significance of the width of the neck on guitars. It's obvious that you really enjoy guitars by your buoyant attitude. I'm just starting out and I bought a Crestwood 225 12 string at Goodwill for almost nothing. And I have absolutely no idea of the significance of 12 versus six strings. You might consider talkin to that topic on a future video. Thanks for the superb video and info I'm guitar necks
1.68" is about as narrow as they come when discussing acoustic guitars. Lots of variations, too. Seagulls come with either 1.8" or 1.72", for example. Also, classical guitars (nylon strings) are often as wide as 2".
From my expirience yea you can adjust to play any kind of necks, but one always feel more comfortable than the other. In my case I detest any neck wider than 1 11/16, I can play them, but if I'm doing 3 hours gigs I know my left hand will fatigue. It's wrong to say you can get used to it, no you can't, You can tolerate it, but never comfortable. Unfortunately for me, most folks prefer wider necks so not much choice to find narrower necks guitar, I had to sell some amazing sounding guitars just because of that issue.
I think it has more to do with the shape of your fingertips. Wide squared off finger tips need a wide neck, with spaced out strings. I had to buy a 1 78ths.
Well I can say off the hand that neck width is not just about string distance from hi E to low E although standard numbering may indicate that. Lately Gibson did wider than usual necks without wider string spacing, which turned into a unhappy story when I got one online, and the neck profile was particularly thick as well... so there is that too...
The problem a lot of us have is when you wrap your thumb around and use it to fret or mute the low E string, or even the A string. Not everyone is blessed with super long finger Like it appears you have.
Epiphone John Lennon standard width nut 1.68" = 1-11/16". A Fender strat neck is often 1-5/8" (1-10/16") which is quite a noodle neck IMHO. Strats also often have standard width 1-11/16" fretboard width and some rare strats have 1-3/4" , these are usually after market necks but Fender also makes some (I have one, its also ebony rather then rosewood). Many Gibson guitar models have a 1-23/32" width which is just in between standard width 1-11/16" and 1-3/4". Dana Bourgeois dreadnought acoustic guitars generally have a 1-23/32" fretboard width.
I’m getting there as a beginner with short fingers… no I’m not Marco Rubio 😊 I can promise you if your pinky finger is longer than most people’s index finger and is almost as long at your ring finger.. you will absolutely be able to reach those crazy chords better… heard all the solutions but physics plays into it. Great vid and thanks for posting!!
Sir I have real short fingers they are very fat and I have arthritis I love the spacing of the strings on a nylon Acoustic guitar but I wish I could find one that would be with metal strings can you recommend something
Two things: 1) Could you comment on neck "thinness", rather than width. I have pain in the back of the hand, especially from barre chords (not the kind of pain as a new player, I'm well seasoned, salty even, hahaha). But I'm looking for the most comfortable, least straining guitar neck and body shape. Leading to question 2) Could you do something on small body guitars compared to big body, but not so much acoustically, which is pretty obvious, but say, guitars with the same or almost the same electronics and how different would they really sound amplified. Kind of like the old blind taste test. Acoustically would be too obvious. But I'd love to see how size effects sound given otherwise equal parameters. And if still super obvious, could you use something (like a Boss VE-8 or AD-10) to make a small guitar sound big? (can you see where I'm going? You could take a smaller guitar, like APX-T2 or APX 500 on the road instead of an FG and still get great sounds...)
Does Ibanez make a narrow neck and narrow body classical electric guitar? I love my Ibanez GA35TCE, but it doesn't have a narrow body. My Alvarez classical electric guitar has a narrow neck, but the body is regular. It's too deep for me to see the strings as I play. However, I learned how to play on it 10 years ago and really never look at the strings. I love the Ibanez because I can see my finger placements, but the neck is too large for my small fingers. Thanks.
I disagree with you about people with smaller hands "getting used to" wider necks. I've been playing guitar for 54 years and like many players, I use my thumb for bass notes, and you can't really wrap your thumb easily and form the rest of the chord on a wider-necked guitar. I recently bought a beautiful Taylor 322CE thinking I could try to see if it would work, and after a month I'm ready to sell it. It just won't work for thumb players. The older model Guilds, Gibsons and Martins had narrower neck profiles and were used just fine for fingerstyle playing, so I say it's actually a myth that narrower necks aren't good for finger style.
Absolutely. My hands/fingers have never been large enough to use my thumb, and for me, the narrower the fretboard and slimmer the neck profile, the better.
Great video,thank you.One of the problems with standard width guitar necks is that they totally neglect those of us with very thick fingers that would like to learn to play guitar.I recently had to order a custom guitar from China with a 51mm nut and 8mm string spacings because the standard width guitar necks are extremely difficult for me to maneuver,I try to learn the chords and my fingers being as thick as they are end up muting adjoining guitar strings that should ring freely.I really don't care if people with short or thin fingers have trouble playing wide neck guitars because there are many style guitars that accommodate people with short or thin fingers so excuse me if I don't give a shit about people with short or thin fingers not being able to play wide neck guitars.That may sound like a very selfish thing for me to say but I cannot and will not apologize for my statement because I'm sure that very very few people if any take into consideration the large amount of us out here that want to play guitar but find it extremely difficult because of the fact that we have very thick fingers.People crying because they can't play a wide neck guitar is total bullshit to me because those people crying about not being able to play wide neck guitars don't stop and think about those of us that want to learn to play guitar but find it extremely difficult because of our thick fingers and the practically non existent options available to us.There are many that say that with practice people with thick fingers can learn to play guitar and that may be so in come cases but in many cases it's total bullshit because physics do not lie and cannot be ignored.Try squeezing two pounds of baloney into a one pound bag and let me know how well that works out for you.I called Fender and asked if they could make a custom 51mm wide neck guitar or at the very least a stand alone 51mm wide guitar neck for me and they straight out told me no.It makes no sense because there are seven string guitars both in the accoustic and electric variety yet I had to turn to China to be able to find a luthier capable of and willing to build a Les Paul style guitar for me with a 51mm wide guitar neck.If guitar companiers can produce seven string guitars then why is it so difficult for those guitar companies to produce custom wide neck guitars for those of us with thick fingers?So with all due respect please spare me that stuff about people with short or thin fingers finding it hard to play wide neck guitars because those cry babies have other guitar options that are not available to people like me that have thick fingers."Oh,but once you practice you'll be able to play the guitar even though you have thick fingers."Seriously?I call total bullshit on that because how in the hell is anybody with thick fingers supposed to learn to play guitar when one of the very first things a person needs to learn and practice are the guitar chords?I've tried various finger positions and the finger positioning helps but it doesn't stop me from muting adjoining guitar strings that must ring freely when playing chords.I'm older and aside from that I'm not a contortionist that can twist and bend my hand and fingers all kinds of ways.
I agree with you had the same problem with fat fingers and I put on silk and steel thinner strings and also I experimented with a wider flat fret as a classical guitar with open top neck spacings under tunning pegs and classical pull threw loop twist and ties and it was easier thin stringed and bridge heights lower.
Flat wound or whatever and fret and string heights sometimes gently sanding smithing string frets as well and rechecking any but or bridge issues.my runners I had option to take out and put in vice to align snug to guitar tunning pin cogg wheel gears and then it stopped loosinineng up and stayed in pitch.
Smaller hand shorter finger players benefit from narrower width more than those with larger longer finger hand players as far as reaching frets and wrapping around with thumb. I find ovation necks easier to play cleanly for me as well as shorter scale guitars.
Really?? Man I’ve been learning on an acoustic for 3 years with more involvement the past year. My shoulder got messed up and my electric has been the only thing that doesn’t kill my shoulder. The doc suggested an injection but my PT says “NO.” I would prefer to heal naturally. But I’m desperate for an acoustic that doesn’t keep me from healing. I’ve looked at Ovation. Do you have one that has the mid depth or contoured back?
Thanks for the info. There's a lot of confusion out there about how to accurately measure the "nut width". Some people say it is the measurement of the top of the neck directly under the nut. Some people say it is the width of the nut itself. Some nuts are tapered or might stick out past the neck slightly... The "string spacing" seems to be the distance from the center of the low E to the center of the high E, and it can be measured at different points. Your explanation of these things was a little bit murky. Also at 8:00, 1.68" is more than one and a half inches, not less. I don't have small hands at all. I wear XL gloves, but I also have sort of short fingers. So, I really like narrow neck guitars. I have a Takamine F-340. The width of the nut is 1.65". The string spacing at the nut is 1.4". I have always loved the narrow neck on this guitar. I find that it is much easier for me to play. The dreadnought body has a nice full sound. I also have a 1970 Gibson LG-0. This is a 00 size guitar. It was considered to be a guitar that was easy to play for beginners. The nut width is 1.55" and the string spacing at the nut is 1.3". The John Lennon Epiphone is not really what I would call a narrow neck guitar. I think that 1.68" is probably fairly standard these days.
I notice a constant change playing, especially since I have a wide variety of guitars. Your videos have always been very useful and wisely thoughtout. I just wish there were people like you 50 years ago when I first started to play.
Can you talk about the Ibanez wizard lll electric neck, I of course have small hands and am thinking of. getting one. Could you compare it to a chibson Les Paul. I wish my fingers were as long as yours.
I found it's more about dexterity. Took me six weeks before I could play a C Chord, then another 2 months to be able to do it with any regularity. Then came upon G7 . I was sure that chord was definitely impossible. Recently had success with that. Now I'm faced with F chord! I'm sure others were able to do it quicker. Point is....once you learn it who cares if it takes you a month longer than someone else! Once you can do it you can do it! That's something no one can take from you. If you want easy try air guitar
Thank you for this video! I presume that the string spacing, at the saddle, has a huge effect on playability when plucking strings (finger-picking) What is the actuael string spacing of the Recoding King ROS 627, - at the saddle? Also, what is the string spacing of the Journey Instruments RT-410, - at the saddle? And...what is the string spacing of the Epiphone EJ-160E, - at the saddle? From center-low to center-high string, is it 57mm and 54mm and 50 mm for these three guitars? (...maybe in inches?)
I know just what you mean. I use my Taylor 210e for most gigs. I bought it new and have played it for years and tons of shows, but I have started playing a lot more finger-style or combination pick fingers and while you can do it a wider neck is better. Funny thing is thinking about switching my gigging guitars makes me feel like I'm cheating on the Taylor. Weird huh?
I don't have a wide neck but I want one real bad. But what you said about the width of the strings. Yes it's wider at the nut. But I was not aware it was wider back where you pick the strings. I can put a capo on my 3rd fret and it makes a big difference in the way my stings sound out. Just that little bit of extra width keeps me from killing out the other strings. Not it get even wider on down let's say 12 fret I don't think I need it that wide at the nut. I would like to try one like you have 1 and13/16 or even 1 and 3/4s
Well, all due respect to the guy, he’s wrong about one thing. The useful measurement is between the high E and low E strings, but the usual supplied measurement in specifications is the total width across the nut. My problem with a narrow neck is muting open strings on a chord. Yes, a 1 mm difference across 6 strings can make a difference, and yes, there are solutions; better finger placement, not pressing as hard.
From the very first second I'm thinking "Oh that's a beautiful sound" and then you say that this model is discontinued... why on earth did they discontinue this? I'm seeking for a nice 000 or 0M and this seems to be a great 000.
it's more depth & shape of the neck that seems to be making guitar very difficult for me to manage with small hands. Not finding many videos talking about it
i agree with what you said, but to my ear the more narrow the nut, the better it sounds as a strummer...is this correct , or is it just to my ear. I have a taylor gc7 with 1 3/4 nut and I hate it as a strummer, but my Ovation has a 1 11/16 nut and is my go to strummer...is it true or do I just think this? thanks for your time... Love your channel.... stay safe,,,, PEACE
Not sure you still answer questions this late in the game but I'll ask anyway. I've playing guitar for 50 some years and I've never had a problem with string spacing or neck WIDTH that can't be overcome with practice... What I have come across is neck THICKNESS, the measurement from the top of the fretboard to the back of the neck at its farthest point, the thickness. Now I have hands like a bear, big paws somewhat shorter fingers and can do just about anything "except" thumbing the low E string cleanly without muting the high E string or other strings w my fingers. I have some success at the first couple frets but the further I go up the neck it's impossible. I see on this video you don't have that problem & your fingers look long & lean. I believe many people have this problem more so than what your talking about here. What's your thoughts on that Mister? ;>}
Im trying to figure out if Im having difficulty playing "normal" sized neck guitars because my hands are too big or what, but I have no experience playing on a wide-neck guitar, so Im just going to try and fumble my way off these strings that seem to be too close
I am looking for a good strumming guitar, and I don't know if I should get the 43mm or if 44 mm would be just as desirable , I know it is only 1mm dif, but as you said, it can make a difference.....thanks for this video.....
Thank's for this video - it's OK if we talks about acoustic guitars - but what about electric guitars? I have a big hands, and it's very hard to find the giutar with wider neck - I like your review of The Loar LH-350VS and I want to ask you did you know a good electric guitar with the neck 1-3/4" or more? Thanks for your answer
Good question! As far as I know Les Pauls are the only guitars with wide necks, but I don't know the dimensions of the top of my head. It's pretty rare to find an electric with a wide neck.
Check out PRS , i play both nylon -classical and electric and the PRS neck profiles make things a lot less akward when switching from one to another when compared to more "traditional" models like teles or strats, i also like many of Gibson model necks but their body shapes feel super akward for me.
I just traded my Epiphone DR400 acoustic (big mistake IMO) for a Martin Road Series. I gotta find another Epi ASAP, Both guitars are great in my affordability perameters. Id never seen an Epi EJ160 but think 1.68 inches would be great.
I have the EPI EJ160. The neck is very easy to travel on. I am still getting used to the size of the guitar. I feel like I hulk over it. But I am just a beginner so it is probably user error.
I play mainly classical so I'm used to fingerstyle on a 51mm/2" nut. I find it extremely difficult to find good quality acoustics with 47mm/1.78 neck. Any recommendations would be appreciated!
Taylor 150e has a 1 7/8 nut. I took the octave strings off and cut a 6 string nut to correct the string spacing. I play so much cleaner with the wider nut.
Apologies for commenting, for this video is a few months old so I understand if you don't read this- but in the video, you mention small hands, but not large hands and fingers. I have abnormally large hands and fingers(not an innuendo, haha) and I play bass which is perfect for me, and I've mastered bass chords, and have always wanted to play guitar, but most guitars are difficult with chords because my fingers will end up accidentally pressing down another string. Do you have a reccomendation for the widest neck guitar for someone in my situation? I love music, and I've tried SG's, telecasters, Strats, etc. My bass collection is extensive, worth a lot of money, and I'd love to have a very wide neck guitar to really be able to reach my full potential, so if you have any recommendations, it would be extremely appreciated, price is not an issue as long as it's under a 1,000ish, preferably acoustic, but electric is alright as well. P.S. Finger picking is still alive! I even finger pick the chords on my bass haha. I guess Jerry Garcia and David Grisman really influenced my style. And thanks ahead of time :)
I don't agree that 1 11/16 width is taking over. Seems to me 1 3/4" is taking over the world in higher quality guitars. All Taylors above the 200 series are 1 3/4". All the upper end breedloves are 1 3/4. Half of Martins are 1 3/4. Most boutique acoustics like Collings, Bourgeois, Santa Cruz, Lowden, etc. are 1 3/4. I prefer 1 11/16 as I play mostly with a pick and have smallish hands, and I get frustrated when guitar shopping for better guitars that most of them are 1 3/4".
+David Rothberg however the differences honestly 1 mm, so it's not a huge difference. Taylor guitars uses the 1 3/4 dimension a lot for the reason that I explained in the video. Medium sized necks are good for all!
Yeah, but that is seen as old school. Most of the modern higher end guitars are going to 1 3/4. When Martin redesigned the D18 a few years ago, they made it 1 3/4. And all of their "high performance necks" that they are putting on more and more guitars 1 3/4. Bummer for me. I can certainly play them, but I prefer 1 11/16 because I like to sometimes use chord voicings that have my thumb over the top of the neck and I find that harder to do on 1 3/4. Also, I guess it's what you're used to. I have a Huss & Dalton dread that splits the difference at 1 23/32. Not a bad compromise.
+David Rothberg "Old school" or not it's the neck size that has been the most popular for the last 40 years. That's why I said what I said, plus you might not be considering electric guitars as well.
Yes but the spacing especially on electric guitars at the bridge is the same no matter what!!! So the further you go up the neck to play leads there's less of a difference....
I am just the opposite. I solo much better on a larger neck because of my big hands. And a fender just, throws me off and I have problems. It might also come to the neck profile and the radius.
Hi. nice review. I need a guitar for finger-picking and my question is do you have any recommendations a finger style beginner guitar? thank you in advance.
I have a standard 1 11/16 like that epiphone; I have big hands and its been hard to be accurate enough all the time to not touch unwanted strings, do you think 1 3/4 would solve this? im a couple months into learning
I also have an Ibanez AC240opn w/1 3/4" width. Fantastic guitar for $240. I did upgrade the saddle to a Tusq and it sounds as good as a Martin. Not kidding. All Mahogany.
I'm right over the Delaware from you, & I love Recording King guitars. I have a ROM-06BKE4, & a Dirty Thirties Parlor. I personally like 1 3/4" width. I have thin fingers for a big guy, but my finger length is average. I can almost palm a basketball. But I found on Acoustics that my ideal width is 1 3/4". It just feels easier to play. IDK?!
thanks for the info, I was just curious because I have a harmony guitar thats neck is really slim but my yamaha has a really wide neck, I really like the feel of the wide neck, I can hit the fret I want without accidentally touching other strings
Good video and information! I do wish that this video covered the classical guitar however. Classical guitars have the widest neck profiles (for six stringed guitars), along with even string spacing throughout the length of the neck. Any other guitar neck typically has tapered string spacing, so the spacing is farthest at the bridge/saddle, and closest at the nut. Just some other things to consider as well when choosing a guitar.
You need to keep you thumb under the neck and your elbow under the neck not at an angle use the path of least resistance but get that thumb under the neckline
i'm looking for a thin neck afer 60 years playing guitar Arthritis has set in 1/4 1/8th what ever makes a big difference in stretching for certain chords the need of a thin neck for me is a priority it keeps my Sanity in a world about gone to Hell
suuuure, i can play wide neck guitar. with a lot of pain in my wrist and an ice pack. on my uncle's dreadnought i can barely position my fingers for an Open D Chord and the neck is as wide as my index finger is long. no way. noooo waaaayyyy. hahaha. slim neck guitar for me all the way.
I'm just a kid with a little first act adam levine guitar... I took lessons when I was younger but saw a guitar song I thought I would look cool playing so I started to try but I guess my hands grew😂 that's why I'm here, but everyone in the comments seem like experts💀
You play great but don’t understand playing with small hands and fat finger tips. With small hands and a 1 3/4 nut width I can’t wrap my thumb Over the neck to deaden low E. Your fingers look rather long. Think about it pro basketball players easily hold a basketball but it is physically impossible to do with small hands and short fingers. It takes a 1 7/8 nut width to accommodate large fingers but the extra width creates other problems.
Tiny guitarist who can play every guitar on the planet. Try being over 6 foot 3 with hands like paddles. And I love Metal music and a few hippie things.
You were hitting other strings on the narrow neck guitar. How long have you been playing? Everyone says there fast and easy to play but you rarely see anyone teaching on this type of guitar. Are they afraid of embarrasing themselves? The strings being so close together would be very difficult and discouraging for a newbie. You should warn beginners to stay away from narrow neck guitars in the beginning, since even seasoned players who have mastered chord shapes still cannot play clear notes on this type guitar. You are the first to admit it. There are allot of beginners wanting to learn the guitar. Steer them clear of the QUICKSAND!!!! THANKS FOR BEING HONEST.
Miss Trump yet? Small hands and all? 77% of America does, any way you measure it. Just sayin...like you do. Guitarists overall like the newer smaller/slimmer necks. We adapt and overcome. The shortest distance besides a straight line... is the distance. Plus you can bar any two or even three strings where it is more difficult on many guitars acoustic or electric.Many Jackson "soloist" necks are wide and flat but shredders are coming around to the narrow and slim Schecter "reaper" necks. We had them on Gibson SG's way back in the early 70's and before. Plenty of chicken pickers, funk, jazz, fusion, and rockers like Santana before PRS. Guitars are moving from a 25.5" format to 24.75". Shorter scale and nut width. Even the seagull S-6 which is a stunning guitar for the price and others are getting slinky and easier to play without a wider more cumbersome neck. Oh, and Trump's got Melania.
You're out in left field in all respects, another delusional right winger living in fantasy. First, most of America is glad corrupt Orange man is gone. Second, no, shredders are not going to narrow necks. Ibanez necks are wide and flat for a reason. I think watching Tucker the nitwit has warped your brain. 😂
Chet Atkins said to find the neck you like and stick with it. I think I will listen to him. This rattling mess of a video does not instill me with confidence in the presentation.
1:30 No! I understand what you are trying to do, i.e to help others understand but the "nut width is LITERALLY the overall width of the nut and NOT the distance between string centres.
However, the "string spacing" over the bridge IS (literally) the distance between centres of the 1st and 6th string.
This IS important that folk understand this and I applaud you for trying to advise. (All my flat tops are 12 fret wider fretboard guitars.
thanks Lewin - great stuff
for the Metric folk - here are some conversions of the nut width of the 3 guitars kindly reviewed here by Lewin
- Recording King ROS-627 nut width of 1 -13/16" converts to ~ 46mm
- Journey Instruments RT-410 nut width of 1-3/4" converts to ~ 44.5mm
- John Lennon EJ-160E nut width of 1.68" converts to ~42.7mm
Note: as corrected by Lewin in the comments below, "the Nut width refers to the width of the guitar’s neck at the nut" and not the distance between the low and high E strings near the nut
thank you
That’s what it was the Donald Trump joke , I meant to say you could lose the Trump supporters
Fret board width aka nut width is actually the distance across the fretboard at the nut or in other words the fretboard measured directly next to the nut. This measurement can vary from the actual nut width because someone might change a nut for example from plastic to bone (or ivory) and when trimming the nut down may leave it slightly wider or slightly narrower then the actual width of the fretboard as measured just in front of the nut. This ROS-627 has a 1-13/16" fretboard width directly next to the nut. Some vintage steel string wide neck guitars have even larger of 1-7/8" (another 1/16" wider) which is also the width of most 12 string acoustic guitars.
Thank you for addressing the neck width issue. However I would like to check the numbers you are giving us if I could(but I can’t). You are saying string spacing when I think you mean nut width. I would prefer both measurements for the same guitar. I have two guitars with 1-11/16 inch nuts but one of them has about a 35.5mm string spacing and the other is almost 36.5mm at the nut. I have to use mm for measuring such small differences. All guitars with 1.75 inch nuts that I have measured have a 1.5 inch string spacing. Then there is the issue of how much space is between the strings and the neck because of possibly muting the high e sting with the fretting hand. You have to play the guitar to check that out for comfort. Anyway I wish guitar specs always included nut width, string spacing at nut, and string spacing on the saddle.
Sir, I've measured, using a dial caliper, a number of guitars that were advertised to have various nut widths. A very common example that's reported most of the time to have 1.75 inch nut width is the typical Gibson "Les Paul". Mark my words, the distance from the upper edge of the bass 'E' string to the lower edge of the treble 'E' string usually comes in at under 1.500 inch, (using 10 gauge strings) though, the measurement from the top to the bottom of the nut itself, is 1.750 inch, give or take a few thousandths of an inch.
I think advertised nut-widths are sometimes "nominal," not exact.
I play both electric and classical and when switching between the two always felt vey strange to my left hand specially when it comes to Fender necks. I got this problem " solved" when i first played a PRS with a wide fat profile , those are my favorite necks on electrics.
Not sure I agree with your explanation of 'nut width ' or 'neck width'. I thought it was a reference to the actual width of the nut rather than the E-E spacing. My guitars all seem to work that way ??
Lyndon Pope Yes, you are correct. Nut width is measured at the nut, not from e to E. String spacing at the saddle, however, is measured from E to e.
Nut width refers to the width of the guitar’s neck at the nut. String spacing is the distance from the low E string to the high E string and how they spread out as they get closer to the saddle. Some manufacturers take this measurement at the 14th fret, while others take it right at the saddle.
Nut width is measured from one edge of the fretboard to the other edge--not low string to high string. I like 1 7/8" on steel string, but they're hard to find unless you order a new one. The exception is parlor guitars on which that's a fairly standard width, but then at 6'4" I would look kind of silly with a parlor guitar. I can get by fine on a 1 3/4" neck though.
What is the measurement on a "small" neck size on electric guitars? I totally agree with you that the tiny differences in neck size make a huge difference. I have an "inexpensive" epiphone SG with a very small neck that plays like a dream and a "real" SG with a larger neck that just does not feel right. I totally prefer the epiphone even though it is literally a 10th of the price!
We players with smaller, weaker hands put a lot more thought into this subject, as nut/neck with and fretboard radius make the difference between playing enjoyment and painful frustration.
Funny, but everything I found on the web says measure the nut from outside edge to the outside edge of the nut! NOT string to string.
The second mediim guitar is wonderful .where can I get it please?
Very informative. I don't think I ever knew that much about wide vs narrow neck guitars or the reasons for them. The wider easier to finger pick the narrower easier for strumming. Good to know. John Lennon loved his J-160 E.
Do any of the other recording king guitars have that wide neck?
Appreciate the detail explanation. Thank you!
Really enjoyed your video on the significance of the width of the neck on guitars. It's obvious that you really enjoy guitars by your buoyant attitude. I'm just starting out and I bought a Crestwood 225 12 string at Goodwill for almost nothing. And I have absolutely no idea of the significance of 12 versus six strings. You might consider talkin to that topic on a future video. Thanks for the superb video and info I'm guitar necks
Spanish guitars are 2 in. and those guys play lightening fast. Strum, single string, whatever.
I have an Epiphone J LENNON guitar your right it a great guitar but not easy to finger pick thanks
1.68" is about as narrow as they come when discussing acoustic guitars. Lots of variations, too. Seagulls come with either 1.8" or 1.72", for example. Also, classical guitars (nylon strings) are often as wide as 2".
From my expirience yea you can adjust to play any kind of necks, but one always feel more comfortable than the other. In my case I detest any neck wider than 1 11/16, I can play them, but if I'm doing 3 hours gigs I know my left hand will fatigue. It's wrong to say you can get used to it, no you can't, You can tolerate it, but never comfortable. Unfortunately for me, most folks prefer wider necks so not much choice to find narrower necks guitar, I had to sell some amazing sounding guitars just because of that issue.
I think it has more to do with the shape of your fingertips. Wide squared off finger tips need a wide neck, with spaced out strings. I had to buy a 1 78ths.
Well I can say off the hand that neck width is not just about string distance from hi E to low E although standard numbering may indicate that. Lately Gibson did wider than usual necks without wider string spacing, which turned into a unhappy story when I got one online, and the neck profile was particularly thick as well... so there is that too...
Neck profiles and fretboard radiuses (curvature) make a huge difference, and you generally have no choice in the matter.
The problem a lot of us have is when you wrap your thumb around and use it to fret or mute the low E string, or even the A string. Not everyone is blessed with super long finger Like it appears you have.
Epiphone John Lennon standard width nut 1.68" = 1-11/16". A Fender strat neck is often 1-5/8" (1-10/16") which is quite a noodle neck IMHO. Strats also often have standard width 1-11/16" fretboard width and some rare strats have 1-3/4" , these are usually after market necks but Fender also makes some (I have one, its also ebony rather then rosewood). Many Gibson guitar models have a 1-23/32" width which is just in between standard width 1-11/16" and 1-3/4". Dana Bourgeois dreadnought acoustic guitars generally have a 1-23/32" fretboard width.
I’m getting there as a beginner with short fingers… no I’m not Marco Rubio 😊
I can promise you if your pinky finger is longer than most people’s index finger and is almost as long at your ring finger.. you will absolutely be able to reach those crazy chords better… heard all the solutions but physics plays into it. Great vid and thanks for posting!!
Sir I have real short fingers they are very fat and I have arthritis I love the spacing of the strings on a nylon Acoustic guitar but I wish I could find one that would be with metal strings can you recommend something
Two things: 1) Could you comment on neck "thinness", rather than width. I have pain in the back of the hand, especially from barre chords (not the kind of pain as a new player, I'm well seasoned, salty even, hahaha). But I'm looking for the most comfortable, least straining guitar neck and body shape. Leading to question 2) Could you do something on small body guitars compared to big body, but not so much acoustically, which is pretty obvious, but say, guitars with the same or almost the same electronics and how different would they really sound amplified. Kind of like the old blind taste test. Acoustically would be too obvious. But I'd love to see how size effects sound given otherwise equal parameters. And if still super obvious, could you use something (like a Boss VE-8 or AD-10) to make a small guitar sound big? (can you see where I'm going? You could take a smaller guitar, like APX-T2 or APX 500 on the road instead of an FG and still get great sounds...)
Does Ibanez make a narrow neck and narrow body classical electric guitar? I love my Ibanez GA35TCE, but it doesn't have a narrow body. My Alvarez classical electric guitar has a narrow neck, but the body is regular. It's too deep for me to see the strings as I play. However, I learned how to play on it 10 years ago and really never look at the strings. I love the Ibanez because I can see my finger placements, but the neck is too large for my small fingers. Thanks.
I disagree with you about people with smaller hands "getting used to" wider necks. I've been playing guitar for 54 years and like many players, I use my thumb for bass notes, and you can't really wrap your thumb easily and form the rest of the chord on a wider-necked guitar. I recently bought a beautiful Taylor 322CE thinking I could try to see if it would work, and after a month I'm ready to sell it. It just won't work for thumb players. The older model Guilds, Gibsons and Martins had narrower neck profiles and were used just fine for fingerstyle playing, so I say it's actually a myth that narrower necks aren't good for finger style.
Absolutely. My hands/fingers have never been large enough to use my thumb, and for me, the narrower the fretboard and slimmer the neck profile, the better.
Great video,thank you.One of the problems with standard width guitar necks is that they totally neglect those of us with very thick fingers that would like to learn to play guitar.I recently had to order a custom guitar from China with a 51mm nut and 8mm string spacings because the standard width guitar necks are extremely difficult for me to maneuver,I try to learn the chords and my fingers being as thick as they are end up muting adjoining guitar strings that should ring freely.I really don't care if people with short or thin fingers have trouble playing wide neck guitars because there are many style guitars that accommodate people with short or thin fingers so excuse me if I don't give a shit about people with short or thin fingers not being able to play wide neck guitars.That may sound like a very selfish thing for me to say but I cannot and will not apologize for my statement because I'm sure that very very few people if any take into consideration the large amount of us out here that want to play guitar but find it extremely difficult because of the fact that we have very thick fingers.People crying because they can't play a wide neck guitar is total bullshit to me because those people crying about not being able to play wide neck guitars don't stop and think about those of us that want to learn to play guitar but find it extremely difficult because of our thick fingers and the practically non existent options available to us.There are many that say that with practice people with thick fingers can learn to play guitar and that may be so in come cases but in many cases it's total bullshit because physics do not lie and cannot be ignored.Try squeezing two pounds of baloney into a one pound bag and let me know how well that works out for you.I called Fender and asked if they could make a custom 51mm wide neck guitar or at the very least a stand alone 51mm wide guitar neck for me and they straight out told me no.It makes no sense because there are seven string guitars both in the accoustic and electric variety yet I had to turn to China to be able to find a luthier capable of and willing to build a Les Paul style guitar for me with a 51mm wide guitar neck.If guitar companiers can produce seven string guitars then why is it so difficult for those guitar companies to produce custom wide neck guitars for those of us with thick fingers?So with all due respect please spare me that stuff about people with short or thin fingers finding it hard to play wide neck guitars because those cry babies have other guitar options that are not available to people like me that have thick fingers."Oh,but once you practice you'll be able to play the guitar even though you have thick fingers."Seriously?I call total bullshit on that because how in the hell is anybody with thick fingers supposed to learn to play guitar when one of the very first things a person needs to learn and practice are the guitar chords?I've tried various finger positions and the finger positioning helps but it doesn't stop me from muting adjoining guitar strings that must ring freely when playing chords.I'm older and aside from that I'm not a contortionist that can twist and bend my hand and fingers all kinds of ways.
I agree with you had the same problem with fat fingers and I put on silk and steel thinner strings and also I experimented with a wider flat fret as a classical guitar with open top neck spacings under
tunning pegs and classical pull threw loop twist and ties and it was easier thin stringed and bridge heights lower.
Flat wound or whatever and fret and string heights sometimes gently sanding smithing string frets as well and rechecking any but or bridge issues.my runners I had option to take out and put in vice to align snug to guitar tunning pin cogg wheel gears and then it stopped loosinineng up and stayed in pitch.
Smaller hand shorter finger players benefit from narrower width more than those with larger longer finger hand players as far as reaching frets and wrapping around with thumb. I find ovation necks easier to play cleanly for me as well as shorter scale guitars.
Really?? Man I’ve been learning on an acoustic for 3 years with more involvement the past year. My shoulder got messed up and my electric has been the only thing that doesn’t kill my shoulder. The doc suggested an injection but my PT says “NO.” I would prefer to heal naturally. But I’m desperate for an acoustic that doesn’t keep me from healing. I’ve looked at Ovation. Do you have one that has the mid depth or contoured back?
theres a wide space (of rambling) between the points in this vid ;)
Damn....I love the metric system.
Any big handed tried an Affinity strat neck? Lmao..
Thanks for the info.
There's a lot of confusion out there about how to accurately measure the "nut width". Some people say it is the measurement of the top of the neck directly under the nut. Some people say it is the width of the nut itself. Some nuts are tapered or might stick out past the neck slightly... The "string spacing" seems to be the distance from the center of the low E to the center of the high E, and it can be measured at different points. Your explanation of these things was a little bit murky.
Also at 8:00, 1.68" is more than one and a half inches, not less.
I don't have small hands at all. I wear XL gloves, but I also have sort of short fingers. So, I really like narrow neck guitars.
I have a Takamine F-340. The width of the nut is 1.65". The string spacing at the nut is 1.4". I have always loved the narrow neck on this guitar. I find that it is much easier for me to play. The dreadnought body has a nice full sound.
I also have a 1970 Gibson LG-0. This is a 00 size guitar. It was considered to be a guitar that was easy to play for beginners. The nut width is 1.55" and the string spacing at the nut is 1.3".
The John Lennon Epiphone is not really what I would call a narrow neck guitar. I think that 1.68" is probably fairly standard these days.
I notice a constant change playing, especially since I have a wide variety of guitars. Your videos have always been very useful and wisely thoughtout. I just wish there were people like you 50 years ago when I first started to play.
Can you talk about the Ibanez wizard lll electric neck, I of course have small hands and am thinking of. getting one. Could you compare it to a chibson Les Paul. I wish my fingers were as long as yours.
I found it's more about dexterity. Took me six weeks before I could play a C Chord, then another 2 months to be able to do it with any regularity. Then came upon G7 . I was sure that chord was definitely impossible. Recently had success with that. Now I'm faced with F chord! I'm sure others were able to do it quicker. Point is....once you learn it who cares if it takes you a month longer than someone else! Once you can do it you can do it! That's something no one can take from you. If you want easy try air guitar
Thank you for this video!
I presume that the string spacing, at the saddle, has a huge effect on playability when plucking strings (finger-picking)
What is the actuael string spacing of the Recoding King ROS 627, - at the saddle?
Also, what is the string spacing of the Journey Instruments RT-410, - at the saddle?
And...what is the string spacing of the Epiphone EJ-160E, - at the saddle?
From center-low to center-high string, is it 57mm and 54mm and 50 mm for these three guitars?
(...maybe in inches?)
I know just what you mean. I use my Taylor 210e for most gigs. I bought it new and have played it for years and tons of shows, but I have started playing a lot more finger-style or combination pick fingers and while you can do it a wider neck is better. Funny thing is thinking about switching my gigging guitars makes me feel like I'm cheating on the Taylor. Weird huh?
My hands aren't that small but my fingers are short. So...a thinner neck would be better?
Willie Nelson seems to do alright with his 2in wide neck lead or chords who's going to tell him he's doing it all wrong ???
I don't have a wide neck but I want one real bad. But what you said about the width of the strings. Yes it's wider at the nut. But I was not aware it was wider back where you pick the strings. I can put a capo on my 3rd fret and it makes a big difference in the way my stings sound out. Just that little bit of extra width keeps me from killing out the other strings. Not it get even wider on down let's say 12 fret I don't think I need it that wide at the nut. I would like to try one like you have 1 and13/16 or even 1 and 3/4s
Well, all due respect to the guy, he’s wrong about one thing. The useful measurement is between the high E and low E strings, but the usual supplied measurement in specifications is the total width across the nut.
My problem with a narrow neck is muting open strings on a chord. Yes, a 1 mm difference across 6 strings can make a difference, and yes, there are solutions; better finger placement, not pressing as hard.
From the very first second I'm thinking "Oh that's a beautiful sound" and then you say that this model is discontinued... why on earth did they discontinue this? I'm seeking for a nice 000 or 0M and this seems to be a great 000.
Find a used one on Ebay! They are great guitars
it's more depth & shape of the neck that seems to be making guitar very difficult for me to manage with small hands. Not finding many videos talking about it
what Mics are you using to record the guitars,? Sounds great.
They are the Lewitt Audio LCT-140's in this video. Sadly they discontinued them, but the new ones are even better!
@@GaragebandandBeyond Thank you,. What are the names of the newer ones?
They are called LCT-140 Air
Where can I learn those Travis picking patterns that he played?
Learn "Windy and warm"... it's a great starter :) th-cam.com/video/arEapyeXz6I/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo
i agree with what you said, but to my ear the more narrow the nut, the better it sounds as a strummer...is this correct , or is it just to my ear. I have a taylor gc7 with 1 3/4 nut and I hate it as a strummer, but my Ovation has a 1 11/16 nut and is my go to strummer...is it true or do I just think this? thanks for your time... Love your channel.... stay safe,,,, PEACE
Thank you for the information!
Markiz de Karabaz You’re very welcome! Please take some time to explore my channel. There are a lot of videos!
Not sure you still answer questions this late in the game but I'll ask anyway. I've playing guitar for 50 some years and I've never had a problem with string spacing or neck WIDTH that can't be overcome with practice... What I have come across is neck THICKNESS, the measurement from the top of the fretboard to the back of the neck at its farthest point, the thickness. Now I have hands like a bear, big paws somewhat shorter fingers and can do just about anything "except" thumbing the low E string cleanly without muting the high E string or other strings w my fingers. I have some success at the first couple frets but the further I go up the neck it's impossible. I see on this video you don't have that problem & your fingers look long & lean.
I believe many people have this problem more so than what your talking about here. What's your thoughts on that Mister? ;>}
Im trying to figure out if Im having difficulty playing "normal" sized neck guitars because my hands are too big or what, but I have no experience playing on a wide-neck guitar, so Im just going to try and fumble my way off these strings that seem to be too close
I am looking for a good strumming guitar, and I don't know if I should get the 43mm or if 44 mm would be just as desirable , I know it is only 1mm dif, but as you said, it can make a difference.....thanks for this video.....
My fender squire has a very narrow neck well under half inch and is hard to finger without a buzz
Great explanation. Tanks a lot.
Thank's for this video - it's OK if we talks about acoustic guitars - but what about electric guitars? I have a big hands, and it's very hard to find the giutar with wider neck - I like your review of The Loar LH-350VS and I want to ask you did you know a good electric guitar with the neck 1-3/4" or more? Thanks for your answer
Good question! As far as I know Les Pauls are the only guitars with wide necks, but I don't know the dimensions of the top of my head. It's pretty rare to find an electric with a wide neck.
Check out PRS , i play both nylon -classical and electric and the PRS neck profiles make things a lot less akward when switching from one to another when compared to more "traditional" models like teles or strats, i also like many of Gibson model necks but their body shapes feel super akward for me.
I just traded my Epiphone DR400 acoustic (big mistake IMO) for a Martin Road Series. I gotta find another Epi ASAP,
Both guitars are great in my affordability perameters. Id never seen an Epi EJ160 but think 1.68 inches would be great.
I have the EPI EJ160. The neck is very easy to travel on. I am still getting used to the size of the guitar. I feel like I hulk over it. But I am just a beginner so it is probably user error.
Thanks for the info.
Very good video. I am a thumb picker with over sized hands. My Ibanez ac 535 is perfect for me. Wish I could play as well as you..!
Hi, Since the Recording King ROS-627 is discontinued, what is Recording King's replacement for it?
I have small hands, but the tips of my fingers are fat : ( lol
Same
I like wide neck guitars as I like to finger pick.
I play mainly classical so I'm used to fingerstyle on a 51mm/2" nut. I find it extremely difficult to find good quality acoustics with 47mm/1.78 neck. Any recommendations would be appreciated!
if you try fingerpicking with a normal sized acoustic, do you adjust to it easily?
Taylor 150e has a 1 7/8 nut. I took the octave strings off and cut a 6 string nut to correct the string spacing. I play so much cleaner with the wider nut.
@@Warpigbeast 78
Apologies for commenting, for this video is a few months old so I understand if you don't read this- but in the video, you mention small hands, but not large hands and fingers. I have abnormally large hands and fingers(not an innuendo, haha) and I play bass which is perfect for me, and I've mastered bass chords, and have always wanted to play guitar, but most guitars are difficult with chords because my fingers will end up accidentally pressing down another string. Do you have a reccomendation for the widest neck guitar for someone in my situation? I love music, and I've tried SG's, telecasters, Strats, etc. My bass collection is extensive, worth a lot of money, and I'd love to have a very wide neck guitar to really be able to reach my full potential, so if you have any recommendations, it would be extremely appreciated, price is not an issue as long as it's under a 1,000ish, preferably acoustic, but electric is alright as well.
P.S. Finger picking is still alive! I even finger pick the chords on my bass haha. I guess Jerry Garcia and David Grisman really influenced my style. And thanks ahead of time :)
Check out the recording king ros-06.
You should be able to find a used one on eBay
GaragebandandBeyond Thanks man! Found a few on eBay I'm looking at now, I appreciate the advice! You've got my subscription
Your saying 1and 12/16 I have checked the sizes they make a 1and 11/16 and 1and 3/4 and I think you can get a 2 inch. The regular size is 1and a half
Nut width is outside width of neck at the nut!
Can you do the same, or have you done the same comparison with electric guitars?
I don't agree that 1 11/16 width is taking over. Seems to me 1 3/4" is taking over the world in higher quality guitars. All Taylors above the 200 series are 1 3/4". All the upper end breedloves are 1 3/4. Half of Martins are 1 3/4. Most boutique acoustics like Collings, Bourgeois, Santa Cruz, Lowden, etc. are 1 3/4. I prefer 1 11/16 as I play mostly with a pick and have smallish hands, and I get frustrated when guitar shopping for better guitars that most of them are 1 3/4".
+David Rothberg the Martin D28 is 1-11/16...need I say more?
+David Rothberg however the differences honestly 1 mm, so it's not a huge difference.
Taylor guitars uses the 1 3/4 dimension a lot for the reason that I explained in the video. Medium sized necks are good for all!
Yeah, but that is seen as old school. Most of the modern higher end guitars are going to 1 3/4. When Martin redesigned the D18 a few years ago, they made it 1 3/4. And all of their "high performance necks" that they are putting on more and more guitars 1 3/4. Bummer for me. I can certainly play them, but I prefer 1 11/16 because I like to sometimes use chord voicings that have my thumb over the top of the neck and I find that harder to do on 1 3/4. Also, I guess it's what you're used to. I have a Huss & Dalton dread that splits the difference at 1 23/32. Not a bad compromise.
+David Rothberg "Old school" or not it's the neck size that has been the most popular for the last 40 years.
That's why I said what I said, plus you might not be considering electric guitars as well.
You're right that I thought you were just talking about acoustics.
Yes but the spacing especially on electric guitars at the bridge is the same no matter what!!! So the further you go up the neck to play leads there's less of a difference....
I am just the opposite. I solo much better on a larger neck because of my big hands. And a fender just, throws me off and I have problems. It might also come to the neck profile and the radius.
Which length is better for beginners?
Herson Cruz Depends on the size of the beginner! Basically, choose whatever is most comfortable.
Tks
Hi. nice review. I need a guitar for finger-picking and my question is do you have any recommendations a finger style beginner guitar? thank you in advance.
What’s you budget like?
@@GaragebandandBeyond about $250-400
@@shaldag5369 Get one of the Recording King ROS 06 on Ebay if you can.
@@GaragebandandBeyond Thank you.
I have a standard 1 11/16 like that epiphone; I have big hands and its been hard to be accurate enough all the time to not touch unwanted strings, do you think 1 3/4 would solve this? im a couple months into learning
I also have an Ibanez AC240opn w/1 3/4" width. Fantastic guitar for $240. I did upgrade the saddle to a Tusq and it sounds as good as a Martin. Not kidding. All Mahogany.
does the spacing between strings change the sonic sound when strumming?
Emmmm a little tiny bit yes, but it's not detectable by anyone but another guitar player!
I'm right over the Delaware from you, & I love Recording King guitars. I have a ROM-06BKE4, & a Dirty Thirties Parlor. I personally like 1 3/4" width. I have thin fingers for a big guy, but my finger length is average. I can almost palm a basketball. But I found on Acoustics that my ideal width is 1 3/4". It just feels easier to play. IDK?!
Come to a Sparkle Pony show sometime and say hello!
1.68 inch is 1 11/16 inch (not less than 1 1/2 as you say). Keep it real.
Thanks for the correction!!
Ha! Yeah! So the whole point of this video is bunk. 1-11/16 and 1-3/4 are standard. Stratocasters are 1.687 inches.
thanks for the info, I was just curious because I have a harmony guitar thats neck is really slim but my yamaha has a really wide neck, I really like the feel of the wide neck, I can hit the fret I want without accidentally touching other strings
People aren’t finger picking as much as they used to? How did you ever draw that conclusion?
How do you like the epi texan vs ej160?
+Lawrence Rasmus i've never played the "Texan", but I do love the EJ160!
Excellent thank you!
Oh, to have fingers the size and length of hotdogs! Which is what the guitar manufacturers apparently think.
Good video and information! I do wish that this video covered the classical guitar however. Classical guitars have the widest neck profiles (for six stringed guitars), along with even string spacing throughout the length of the neck. Any other guitar neck typically has tapered string spacing, so the spacing is farthest at the bridge/saddle, and closest at the nut. Just some other things to consider as well when choosing a guitar.
Acoustics have too wide a neck for me, now. Why now, tendonitis and early arthritis.
You need to keep you thumb under the neck and your elbow under the neck not at an angle use the path of least resistance but get that thumb under the neckline
i'm looking for a thin neck afer 60 years playing guitar Arthritis has set in 1/4 1/8th what ever makes a big difference in stretching for certain chords the need of a thin neck for me is a priority it keeps my Sanity in a world about gone to Hell
Are you related to banjo Ben?
thx, very usefull.
suuuure, i can play wide neck guitar. with a lot of pain in my wrist and an ice pack. on my uncle's dreadnought i can barely position my fingers for an Open D Chord and the neck is as wide as my index finger is long. no way. noooo waaaayyyy. hahaha. slim neck guitar for me all the way.
Segovia plays classical (wide neck) guitars. He has short stubby fingers. He does ok in my book 😜
I'm just a kid with a little first act adam levine guitar... I took lessons when I was younger but saw a guitar song I thought I would look cool playing so I started to try but I guess my hands grew😂 that's why I'm here, but everyone in the comments seem like experts💀
You play great but don’t understand playing with small hands and fat finger tips. With small hands and a 1 3/4 nut width I can’t wrap my thumb Over the neck to deaden low E. Your fingers look rather long. Think about it pro basketball players easily hold a basketball but it is physically impossible to do with small hands and short fingers. It takes a 1 7/8 nut width to accommodate large fingers but the extra width creates other problems.
My guitar neck is 1.4 inch. Is it even normal or I got a defective one?
The vast majority of Taylor Guitar necks
are 1 3/4".
44mm?
I was thinking of trump when you said people with small hands. Glad you didn't make a joke, though I'm glad it got a mention
Ha, I know right!?
Yes. Because fuck people who make fun of your god and savior trump lol.
Tiny guitarist who can play every guitar on the planet. Try being over 6 foot 3 with hands like paddles. And I love Metal music and a few hippie things.
You were hitting other strings on the narrow neck guitar. How long have you been playing?
Everyone says there fast and easy to play but you rarely see anyone teaching on this type of guitar. Are they afraid of embarrasing themselves? The strings being so close together would be very difficult and discouraging for a newbie. You should warn beginners to stay away from narrow neck guitars in the beginning, since even seasoned players who have mastered chord shapes still cannot play clear notes on this type guitar. You are the first to admit it.
There are allot of beginners wanting to learn the guitar.
Steer them clear of the QUICKSAND!!!! THANKS FOR BEING HONEST.
I am 44 years old and have been playing for 39 years.
Miss Trump yet? Small hands and all? 77% of America does, any way you measure it. Just sayin...like you do. Guitarists overall like the newer smaller/slimmer necks. We adapt and overcome. The shortest distance besides a straight line... is the distance. Plus you can bar any two or even three strings where it is more difficult on many guitars acoustic or electric.Many Jackson "soloist" necks are wide and flat but shredders are coming around to the narrow and slim Schecter "reaper" necks. We had them on Gibson SG's way back in the early 70's and before. Plenty of chicken pickers, funk, jazz, fusion, and rockers like Santana before PRS. Guitars are moving from a 25.5" format to 24.75". Shorter scale and nut width. Even the seagull S-6 which is a stunning guitar for the price and others are getting slinky and easier to play without a wider more cumbersome neck. Oh, and Trump's got Melania.
You're out in left field in all respects, another delusional right winger living in fantasy. First, most of America is glad corrupt Orange man is gone. Second, no, shredders are not going to narrow necks. Ibanez necks are wide and flat for a reason. I think watching Tucker the nitwit has warped your brain. 😂
Chet Atkins said to find the neck you like and stick with it. I think I will listen to him. This rattling mess of a video does not instill me with confidence in the presentation.
I'm sorry that the FREE information that I gave out didn't meet you high standards.
Him
"If ya wanna do something like this "
Me
"Show off"
He is such a show off
So what? He has the skills to show off.
You are wrong about using a pick on large neck. Research our founding father flat picker Norman Blake. Seriously.
You are so cute! Not hitting on you. I am an old woman. Lol