I love the idea of these simple engines because it takes us back to when people knew how to work on their own machines. Heck, I just bought one just because.
Such a sweet setup brother I definitely want to build one of these for my channel, hopefully one day I’ll be able to afford it so I can build it. Thanks for sharing
I did some research, and the cylinder on the frankenstein is where all the power comes from. Its a Nikasil coated STIHL chainsaw cylinder and piston. At least that's what the original Frankenstein from Zeda Motorsports was. You can get 10 horsepower stock just by bolting one of those babies on with a good carb and pipe. They're rev out to like 14000 RPM!! That's why Stihl chainsaws are the best.
The Stihl chainsaw cylinders have a couple of benefits - 1) much larger bores available than what you can get with the Chinese bicycle motors and 2) Much better port design and timing - especially the transfers, which provide much higher fuel velocity into the cylinder. This provides a lot more all around power than the bike engine cylinders. I'm currently working on putting together a Stihl 044 hybrid (only 50mm bore, but the piston uses a 10mm wrist pin which is a drop in fit for our pistons). With that cylinder and a case reed setup, I should be able to come out somewhere around 6-7hp.
Yes sir once you hit the poweband better be hanging on I've gotten mine to 45 50 mph before I backed off with more throttle left feels like a rocket 45 50 is hauling on a motorized Bike
I've been interested in those expansion chamber pipes like yours that mounts downwards. Wish I could find a ready made one for a good price. Nice bike. ☺️
They need to make a good expansion chamber exhaust for the phantom 85! I already got the G2 reed valve so I could install a 22mm pwk carburetor. I've actually heard of people drilling holes in the bottom of the stock exhaust but I can't imagine it sounding good or give you the power of a good expansion chamber and awesome looking bike!
My 100cc stock is going 36mph with the 34tooth sprocket, can't wait see top speed with these new parts coming in gosh seeing him do them speeds makes me hhyyppeeeee
I’d love to get into this hobby but am having trouble getting the funds, could you point me to a good motor to use to get to work? This way I only gotta buy one
You are correct but ken hinson perfected it rob built the ms660 and didn't make many of them that was right before he retired ken started about 2 1/2 years ago but has done way more I have a 395xp chop top and he built the sawzilla the 127cc 088 ms880 magnum and ms440 and 460 also have a 660 the 440 50mm hit 60mph 36t sprocket if you tune that ms460 52mm right and right pipe you should do 65,+ mph
hey would you come by to pompano beach with any build to see what I'm needing to do on my build (RM80, high compression head, arbeo 15 15 sha carb and custom back wheel)
I wonder could this be a reliable engine for a daily Rider and how long would it last my current engine has about 6 years and no problems but only max out at 40
It all comes down to oil quality, mixture and how hard you ride. If you try to always shoot for the max then it might not last as long. This engine sounds relaxed at 35-40mph.
@@MJTechChannel yeah my daily Rider top speed is 40 and man that thing loves to scream at 38 and 40 all day long so far it's been two years solid actually no maintenance or tighten up anything it's holding up great and it's an old motor I got from some other dude originally topped out at 32 miles but once I did some Port work I got it to hit the 40 mark it's not the fastest or quick is bike but it gets used to point A to point B I'm just curious with the conversion you have to retype holes or use epoxy or J-B Weld which I really don't think does good over in heat
Hey bro I just got the same carb PWK 21mm but is there a way to adapt the larger intake on the carb to the smaller 40mm intake tube even if not using a reed setup? If so where can I get it? Tried local stores and they dont have anything that would work.
Yea I dnt know if the price fir the 85 justify the speed in it.I paid 180 with delivery for the anbull "100" cc and rite out the box with one home free mod hit 39 mph on a 44 tooth sprocket
no way your hitting 40mph with a 44tooth rear, i don't care if you stick a ls7 in it. a 44 tooth won't go that fast unless your Anbull is hitting 17,000 rpm it's called mathematics bro, learn some...
Hey bro love ken hinson I have the 395xp chop top with pw80 head and I had a ms440 with a kx85 pipe and a 36t sprocket and a vm24 carburetor you definitely need a mukuni and go back to a 36t get a mukuni vm24 carburetor or tm24 and take that long rubber pipe off you have no power band the pipe length is wrong you can hear where the powerband wants to hit but it studders cuz your shockwave is not getting back to the cylinder in time my ms440 no reed or window piston just two finger ports and it did 58mph power band should hit 38/40mph on a 36t sprocket anything below 36t is to small for that motor
When you say two finger ports, Do you mean two finger ports on the side of the piston on the exhaust side? Can you explain a little more for me? I’m currently contemplating buying a ms440 cylinder an piston for my phantom 85 bottom end an running it without a reed an using a vm24 carb. I’m just wondering what exactly I need to do with my piston when it comes to a windowing it. I can’t just leave it sealed without porting it out correct? Basically can you give me a run down if exactly what I need to do to bolt on a stihl 440 to my phantom 85 bottom end. I plan on using a kx85 pipe also I’ll cut an re weld to work.
I do like 30 its a good speed but my bike does hit 40 something with a head upgrade, expansion chamber, racing carb, 36 tooth sprocket, and the high performance cdi with magneto.... I use my bike everyday and go like 40 half the time but the piston rings like to wear along with the clutch pads a little faster than normal it's been like 3 or 4 months still going strong with no major problems at all going easy on your engine is the way to go so it lasts longer before having to rebuild anything
@@bryceevans8340 absolutely. I’ve built close to a thousand bikes now. Although I know how they preform I like getting information from other people as well. Never know everything! Always something to learn. Just love seeing more bikes buddies out there having some quality fun! Good to know that. I had someone buy a bike from me not to long ago, dude pinned it full throttle and burnt a hole in the piston about 5 miles down the road. Dude was obviously a drug addict. I made him take apart the kit with a wrench while I had a table full of power tools next to him lol. And made him pay for the engine. Stay safe buddy.
Id try the HDA 43 carb. Its a pumper carb that aerates fuel much better. Its a different setup, but ive found they are way easier to tune. I tried a lesser hda223 carb on a cheap flying horse engine that i ported, with stock gears, no reed, and stock but modified exhaust, and got 36mph. “Which is not alot, but was mostly stock”…But it vibrated like crazy as its a crap engine. “At the time i wasnt knowledgeable on what bike engines were best”. I have a video of it on my page. By the looks of it, the carb on these bikes have a a very long travel. Especially the reeded ones. Not sure but looks like its overkill when it can be simpler, more direct, and way more tunable.
man muscle car owners get shit on when they have a v6 and hondas for having a 4, but here are these people enjoying their literal half litre 1 cylinder, 1 speed, 1 wheel drive machines they built at home with a kit from amazon. cant wait to have my own then upgrade to a zx6r (totally the same thing)
Man she pulls hard. I'm a little jealous. I don't have the money for a built engine like this. We don't even get Phantoms here, just 50s, 66s and yd100s, nothing else
Yd100 can do this with work like this has with good port timing, I just build a dio Reed for my buddy and he hit 52mph and he said it had a lot more but got nervous on a 32t sprocket. My personal yd100 piston port hit 47 just some port work with 32t sprocket. My personal yd100 dio Reed hits 45 easy with 44t sprocket. So you got what you need tbh just got so the work, it’s not hard but if you need help and advice hit me up.
Change that chain guide , spring loaded tensioner is needed , bigger gauge spokes especially at those speeds , it's cool it's fast , but definitely not a daily commuter , it's a bicycle frame, I ride motorcycles ,I wouldn't even think about those speeds on a bicycle. Stay Safe.👍
I don't think people care about top speed that much because you really don't need it. What is more important is take off torque and powerful reliable quick take offs from lights, stop signs and moving across intersections quickly and then reaching a reasonable cruising speed of 20 to 30 mph with some torque left over. It is fun though to find out your motors top speed although you may never use it daily.
True until you find the pads ya need! Amazon go find the green ones, order a 30 pack thank me later:) you may never need the 2nd set... they're not even comparable and they're the same price almost
Bro my ms440 no reed 50mm did 57mph on a 36t sprocket and a kx85 pipe vm24 mukuni carburetor and definitely got up there quicker then your 460 you and not tuned right and get rid of that silencer killed your power band and you should run 36t anything smaller and you will loose power these saws love 36t-40t sprocket if you ride trails 44t is fine on a 36t your powerband should hit 38-40mph if not your pipe is to long
interesting as most comments are apparently from experts in this field who all seem to know exactly what others need to do to their bikes, and they should know as no matter what the video is on, they have the same bike/engine/pipe except theirs goes about 1000 times faster, they got it for 1/100 of the going price you paid, and without riding your bike, kow exactly what jet, cyclinder, carb, sprocket you should be using instead of what you are. Anyone with common sense needs a Scott Air Pak self contained breathing apparatus to avoid being overcome by all the bullshit around here. I bet most are in their parents basement and don't even own a bicycle or if they do, can't ride it casue they are grounded....lol
Lol! Could not have said it better myself. Racerbois squealing and frothing with expert rage. And most of them could not file a set of points to save their lives.
🙄 upon hearing this the builder immediately removed the Springer front end and put on some forks from his daughters Holly hobbie 20 inch complete with a flower covered basket. Now he goes 70mph without any worries. 😆
So you were riding a bicycle at 53 mph, with lace up shoes / short pants / a thin short sleeve shirt / no gloves, and as for a helmet well who can say.......Where I'm from...... we call that a "Bell/End" on a bike. Although this term would usually be of a motorcyclist.....but a bicycle with a motor, close enough..
I love the idea of these simple engines because it takes us back to when people knew how to work on their own machines. Heck, I just bought one just because.
nice man
Such a sweet setup brother I definitely want to build one of these for my channel, hopefully one day I’ll be able to afford it so I can build it. Thanks for sharing
I did some research, and the cylinder on the frankenstein is where all the power comes from. Its a Nikasil coated STIHL chainsaw cylinder and piston. At least that's what the original Frankenstein from Zeda Motorsports was. You can get 10 horsepower stock just by bolting one of those babies on with a good carb and pipe. They're rev out to like 14000 RPM!! That's why Stihl chainsaws are the best.
Stihl is German engineered
The Stihl chainsaw cylinders have a couple of benefits - 1) much larger bores available than what you can get with the Chinese bicycle motors and 2) Much better port design and timing - especially the transfers, which provide much higher fuel velocity into the cylinder. This provides a lot more all around power than the bike engine cylinders. I'm currently working on putting together a Stihl 044 hybrid (only 50mm bore, but the piston uses a 10mm wrist pin which is a drop in fit for our pistons). With that cylinder and a case reed setup, I should be able to come out somewhere around 6-7hp.
@@dmoore0079 is there any way u can send me a link to where i can get the piston and cylinder
@@JDProductions_YT Amazon much????
Yes sir once you hit the poweband better be hanging on I've gotten mine to 45 50 mph before I backed off with more throttle left feels like a rocket 45 50 is hauling on a motorized Bike
I've been interested in those expansion chamber pipes like yours that mounts downwards.
Wish I could find a ready made one for a good price.
Nice bike. ☺️
All the Super Bike Racers complained about not seeing videos on Ken's engines... so thanks for posting this! So many haters!!
I like that motor setup looks sweet and nice run to bro for some reason I had to subscribe again to your channel said I was not subbed
Thanks for your support! Truly appreciate it my brother
Welcome my brother anytime
Same here! Had to submit again! See yall on the FB pages!
Thanks for the ride.
I'm jealous dam nice ride and OMG 55 mph or close enough lol nice ride safe
Awesome!! Nice build. Easy 60 with upgrades. Thanks for sharing! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
They need to make a good expansion chamber exhaust for the phantom 85! I already got the G2 reed valve so I could install a 22mm pwk carburetor. I've actually heard of people drilling holes in the bottom of the stock exhaust but I can't imagine it sounding good or give you the power of a good expansion chamber and awesome looking bike!
My 100cc stock is going 36mph with the 34tooth sprocket, can't wait see top speed with these new parts coming in gosh seeing him do them speeds makes me hhyyppeeeee
Thanks for sharing this. I have save a special bike for this and hopefully one of this days I’ll start collecting parts. Thanks brother. 👍
Killer build🚴♂️💨💨💨💨💯very nice speed 💨💨🤙✌
Very nice build, much impressed
I’d love to get into this hobby but am having trouble getting the funds, could you point me to a good motor to use to get to work? This way I only gotta buy one
If you got rid of the 2 foot of heater hose tubing youd prob hit your p.b. easily and prob 60 ...Your murdering the power with the exhaust setup
The original Frankenstein was not built by Ken. It was built by Robert Buanchi with zeda motorsports years ago before Ken started.
You are correct but ken hinson perfected it rob built the ms660 and didn't make many of them that was right before he retired ken started about 2 1/2 years ago but has done way more I have a 395xp chop top and he built the sawzilla the 127cc 088 ms880 magnum and ms440 and 460 also have a 660 the 440 50mm hit 60mph 36t sprocket if you tune that ms460 52mm right and right pipe you should do 65,+ mph
Nice Motorized Bicycle ! 👍🏾
hey would you come by to pompano beach with any build to see what I'm needing to do on my build (RM80, high compression head, arbeo 15 15 sha carb and custom back wheel)
I wonder could this be a reliable engine for a daily Rider and how long would it last my current engine has about 6 years and no problems but only max out at 40
It all comes down to oil quality, mixture and how hard you ride. If you try to always shoot for the max then it might not last as long. This engine sounds relaxed at 35-40mph.
@@MJTechChannel yeah my daily Rider top speed is 40 and man that thing loves to scream at 38 and 40 all day long so far it's been two years solid actually no maintenance or tighten up anything it's holding up great and it's an old motor I got from some other dude originally topped out at 32 miles but once I did some Port work I got it to hit the 40 mark it's not the fastest or quick is bike but it gets used to point A to point B I'm just curious with the conversion you have to retype holes or use epoxy or J-B Weld which I really don't think does good over in heat
40s good enough for a daily
@@dustinh4175 it is !
Cool video bro 👍👍👍... Thanks for the content
Have u done anything to it when you got it or is it pretty much stock?
Where can I find the Frank. Motor and how much cost.
Hey bro I just got the same carb PWK 21mm but is there a way to adapt the larger intake on the carb to the smaller 40mm intake tube even if not using a reed setup? If so where can I get it? Tried local stores and they dont have anything that would work.
Very nice I finally bought a bike Huffy Nel lusso
Yea I dnt know if the price fir the 85 justify the speed in it.I paid 180 with delivery for the anbull "100" cc and rite out the box with one home free mod hit 39 mph on a 44 tooth sprocket
no way your hitting 40mph with a 44tooth rear, i don't care if you stick a ls7 in it. a 44 tooth won't go that fast unless your Anbull is hitting 17,000 rpm it's called mathematics bro, learn some...
What size piston is the frank have. There’s two sizes I believe for them just wondering if you know?
What size sprocket
sharp looking bike
What adapters are you using to attach that reed valve to the round intake? It would really help me with my build. Thanks for any info!
plumbing supply store cast iron coupler in the right size.
What phone holder are you using I need one
The ms460 almost cruises at the phantoms top speed...At least for that 33t you are using. What was the top speed on a 36t?
Hey bro love ken hinson I have the 395xp chop top with pw80 head and I had a ms440 with a kx85 pipe and a 36t sprocket and a vm24 carburetor you definitely need a mukuni and go back to a 36t get a mukuni vm24 carburetor or tm24 and take that long rubber pipe off you have no power band the pipe length is wrong you can hear where the powerband wants to hit but it studders cuz your shockwave is not getting back to the cylinder in time my ms440 no reed or window piston just two finger ports and it did 58mph power band should hit 38/40mph on a 36t sprocket anything below 36t is to small for that motor
32t teeth is where it’s at especially for cruising around 20-30mph without having it revved to the gills.
When you say two finger ports, Do you mean two finger ports on the side of the piston on the exhaust side? Can you explain a little more for me? I’m currently contemplating buying a ms440 cylinder an piston for my phantom 85 bottom end an running it without a reed an using a vm24 carb. I’m just wondering what exactly I need to do with my piston when it comes to a windowing it. I can’t just leave it sealed without porting it out correct? Basically can you give me a run down if exactly what I need to do to bolt on a stihl 440 to my phantom 85 bottom end. I plan on using a kx85 pipe also I’ll cut an re weld to work.
Very cool 😎!
I just got mine, and waiting on wrist clips, but mine came with bearings instead of bushing, is that gonna be ok? Still little play in piston.
Wow awesome
How’s the motor holding up?
I'm thinking abr getting a 32 tooth just ti see the top speed.I like the pick up in the bigger sprockets
So how long did the engine last you riding it like that? At least the top end? I’m always scared to go full throttle for long periods of time.
I do like 30 its a good speed but my bike does hit 40 something with a head upgrade, expansion chamber, racing carb, 36 tooth sprocket, and the high performance cdi with magneto.... I use my bike everyday and go like 40 half the time but the piston rings like to wear along with the clutch pads a little faster than normal it's been like 3 or 4 months still going strong with no major problems at all going easy on your engine is the way to go so it lasts longer before having to rebuild anything
@@bryceevans8340 absolutely. I’ve built close to a thousand bikes now. Although I know how they preform I like getting information from other people as well. Never know everything! Always something to learn. Just love seeing more bikes buddies out there having some quality fun!
Good to know that. I had someone buy a bike from me not to long ago, dude pinned it full throttle and burnt a hole in the piston about 5 miles down the road. Dude was obviously a drug addict. I made him take apart the kit with a wrench while I had a table full of power tools next to him lol. And made him pay for the engine.
Stay safe buddy.
Id try the HDA 43 carb. Its a pumper carb that aerates fuel much better. Its a different setup, but ive found they are way easier to tune. I tried a lesser hda223 carb on a cheap flying horse engine that i ported, with stock gears, no reed, and stock but modified exhaust, and got 36mph. “Which is not alot, but was mostly stock”…But it vibrated like crazy as its a crap engine. “At the time i wasnt knowledgeable on what bike engines were best”. I have a video of it on my page. By the looks of it, the carb on these bikes have a a very long travel. Especially the reeded ones. Not sure but looks like its overkill when it can be simpler, more direct, and way more tunable.
Where did you buy that carb and hose attatchment to the reed valve
where can i get the engine?
Who sells this Frankenstein motor and kit?
What fuel ratio do you use?
What speedometer are you using?
Happy I subscribed.
So you got more mph with a bigger sproket? Is that because of better use of the power band?
Yes because you need just enough torque to get those top speeds, with a smaller sprocket you get less torque
man muscle car owners get shit on when they have a v6 and hondas for having a 4, but here are these people enjoying their literal half litre 1 cylinder, 1 speed, 1 wheel drive machines they built at home with a kit from amazon. cant wait to have my own then upgrade to a zx6r (totally the same thing)
Man she pulls hard. I'm a little jealous. I don't have the money for a built engine like this. We don't even get Phantoms here, just 50s, 66s and yd100s, nothing else
Man that sucks 😕
Yd100 can do this with work like this has with good port timing, I just build a dio Reed for my buddy and he hit 52mph and he said it had a lot more but got nervous on a 32t sprocket. My personal yd100 piston port hit 47 just some port work with 32t sprocket. My personal yd100 dio Reed hits 45 easy with 44t sprocket. So you got what you need tbh just got so the work, it’s not hard but if you need help and advice hit me up.
Change that chain guide , spring loaded tensioner is needed , bigger gauge spokes especially at those speeds , it's cool it's fast , but definitely not a daily commuter , it's a bicycle frame, I ride motorcycles ,I wouldn't even think about those speeds on a bicycle. Stay Safe.👍
hey :) which carburator?
What motor mount is that for what size?
42 cruising is Nice 💯
This is cool but the air intake facing backwards doesn’t make sense to me
What size is that piston?same as phantom?
What carburetor??
Wondered why the head is on sideways? The fins should be parallel to the airflow not perpendicular to it???
its a chainsaw head
Complimenti a chi lo elaborato
Okay you say you went what was your wheel spacing on the screen you should probably a gesture will spacing to the size of the bike
Nice bike
Do a follow up video!
Cool as s*** man
The problem is in the Reed valve chainsaws don't have them intake and carb are just too big for some reason that just kills the torque
On a well ported motor, those carbs work just fine.
Try a mineralli from Smolik or build one my friend has one and he gets to 58 no problems
Will look into it! 😉
I agree you should try one I love my minarelli there sweet bro
@Kevin Stearns bruh u fr? Or u joking lmao
No they won’t it’s a minarelli you must be thinking a regular motor
@@Littleevil9975 true those mineralli are beast
Hello I love your build could you tell me what size rear sprocket you are running? I have a awesome bike too keep on riding brotha 2 stroke life...
Hi there! I am using a 33t from MBrebel.com.
I have a couple of bikes that came from you id like to chat with you about them there really nice
I don't think people care about top speed that much because you really don't need it. What is more important is take off torque and powerful reliable quick take offs from lights, stop signs and moving across intersections quickly and then reaching a reasonable cruising speed of 20 to 30 mph with some torque left over. It is fun though to find out your motors top speed although you may never use it daily.
Which country is this in
usa. florida
Dude feather the clutch and rev as you let out in stages and you'll be able to pull from dead stop, but it'll eat the clutch pads up
True until you find the pads ya need! Amazon go find the green ones, order a 30 pack thank me later:) you may never need the 2nd set... they're not even comparable and they're the same price almost
Lose that chain tensioner first. That will only help.
Phantom def got there quicker in my opinion. Both are great saw engines if built right.
The phantom was gear lower, that’s why it got there quicker, an only got 44mph with that gearing so the phantom is definitely slower
@@waltwalt9632 obviously
@@adamsicotte1151 want a cookie?
@@waltwalt9632 what
Bro my ms440 no reed 50mm did 57mph on a 36t sprocket and a kx85 pipe vm24 mukuni carburetor and definitely got up there quicker then your 460 you and not tuned right and get rid of that silencer killed your power band and you should run 36t anything smaller and you will loose power these saws love 36t-40t sprocket if you ride trails 44t is fine on a 36t your powerband should hit 38-40mph if not your pipe is to long
I can't get into that thumb throttle thats to much as riding a four-wheeler. You need the regular motorcycle throttle that will look better.
U should be telling everyone that those top speed runs r downhill considering on a flat road with 28 tooth sprocket the phantom sits around 40mph
i thought you would get it going on this viedo what happend
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You need a 44 tooth sprocket
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Don't mean to hate but that motor is slow i had a stage 6 streetrace mineralli with only 1 ring (low compression) max out at 55mph 10/36 70cc
My last gas motorized bike used to hit 60mph.
🙄
interesting as most comments are apparently from experts in this field who all seem to know exactly what others need to do to their bikes, and they should know as no matter what the video is on, they have the same bike/engine/pipe except theirs goes about 1000 times faster, they got it for 1/100 of the going price you paid, and without riding your bike, kow exactly what jet, cyclinder, carb, sprocket you should be using instead of what you are. Anyone with common sense needs a Scott Air Pak self contained breathing apparatus to avoid being overcome by all the bullshit around here. I bet most are in their parents basement and don't even own a bicycle or if they do, can't ride it casue they are grounded....lol
Lol! Could not have said it better myself. Racerbois squealing and frothing with expert rage. And most of them could not file a set of points to save their lives.
Idk if id trust that fork at those speeds.
🙄 upon hearing this the builder immediately removed the Springer front end and put on some forks from his daughters Holly hobbie 20 inch complete with a flower covered basket. Now he goes 70mph without any worries. 😆
So you were riding a bicycle at 53 mph, with lace up shoes / short pants / a thin short sleeve shirt / no gloves, and as for a helmet well who can say.......Where I'm from...... we call that a "Bell/End" on a bike.
Although this term would usually be of a motorcyclist.....but a bicycle with a motor, close enough..
I thought a bigger rear sprocket/ more teeth was supposed to give a higher mph?
Cuz as to my calculations you were clearly going only 25 30 miles a hrs
Mines a Ken hinson ms460
That chain looks loose
I saw videos of the phantom 85 v3 going faster
Motor must've been 500$+
It can go more I know it can
take links out loose tension gain speed
Ya know ya put down you’d go faster…..that’s what yer after,right?
???? 44???
I saw 43 mph
Please send in Zambia please please
A minha pega 80 hora
lol..it was idling (=
U could have hit 70
Frankenstein 😬
🔥😡🔥who cares about a bicycle with a motor anyway 😡
you, or you would not have posted😎
@@safetyfirstintexas ok 😂 you got me my motorized bike was not working and I was jealous sorry 😞