दादा बर्मन का चयन बिल्कुल सही था,इस शास्त्रीय गीत को मन्ना डे के सिवा कोई गा भी नहीं सकता था,आप बर्मन दा के गाए एक गीत का जिक्र भूल गए,"मेरी दुनिया है मां,तेरे आंचल में"...जिसके कमाल के लिरिक्स के लिए मजरुह साहब को सलाम !
Shahvez Saheb I watched your channel 'Retro Shahvez Stories' today. It is very good. You bring really good stories. It should be marketed well to find more audience.
मुझे समझ नहीं आ रहा कि ओ पी रल्हन साहब ने यह सोच ही कैसे लिया कि यह गीत आदरणीय मुकेश जी गाएंगे। मुकेश जी बहुत ही अच्छे गायक थे लेकिन यह गीत मन्ना डे ही गा सकते थे।
Although I am an ardent admirer of Mukesh, I believe Manny Dey performed exceptionally well in rendering this song. Incidentally, from the same film, my personal favorite is Lata Mangeshkar’s rendition of “Khayi Hai Re Humne Kasam.”
Logon ke paas paisa or power hoti hai toh samajhate hain unko hi sab knowledge hai......obviously it was this arrogance of OP Ralhan that he didn't honor the opinion, which was absolutely correct , of such a senior pro like SD Burman.
Such incident happened in Mughal e Azam. K Asit interventedm. Nxt day Naushad had started telling lightman to change light, ask cameraman to change trolley shot, Asif was angry. But he learned a lesson. Ralhan was a money minded business man . And had a commercial sense of Music.
मान्ना day ने एक गीत आनंद फिल्म के लिये गाया था वोह गाना बॅकग्राऊंड के लिये था , जब राजेश खन्ना ने गीत सुना तब उन्होने कहा ये गीत मेरे उप्पर फिल्मला जाया, जिंदगी कैसेही पहेली है ....
धन्यवाद रेट्रो शावेज >>>>>>> स्व.बर्मनदा सही थे, स्व मुकेशकी आवाज लो पीच की थी जोकी मन्नादाका स्वर गीतको ऊंचाईपर ले गया.(स्व.कीशोरकुमारके एक फील्म मे सचिनदाही__स्व.मो.रफी के ही आवाजके लीये आग्रही रहे और वही हुवा था.) महान हस्तीयोंकी "हटयोगी" वृत्तीही ऐसे डटके रह सकती है. सभी दिग्गजोंका मनस्वी स्मरण!. 卐ॐ卐
Every song has its destiny. Cant say Mukesh wouldn't have sung it brilliantly. Mukesh, Manna Dey, Mohd Rafi, Talat all unique voices and legends. They all could sing the same song brilliantly. Unless we recorded all, we would never know whose voice suited the best In Sujatha, SD Burman insisted on 'Jalte Hain Jiske Liye' be given to Mohd Rafi. But the film makers wanted Talat. SD Burman even insulted Talat by saying 'please don't spoil the song' as he came in for recording. But Talat recorded it and the rest is History.
Mukeshji was a good singer, a very good singer who sang many good songs. But for this song, Manna Dey was the first and last choice. In my opinion, as far as raag-based /semi classical songs were concernced, Manna Dey was the best male playback singer in the Bombay film industry.Nobody, I repeat, nobody could hold a candle to him.
No Music director knows about the voice of singers. So it wouldn't be so full of raagdari,aur harkat but don't underestimate S D , he would make it good in the film but due to MANNADS it becomes unforgettable.
Aap ne sahi kaha hai.Main 4th standard mein tha tabhi .Hum log jab school jate the to humare Shahar ki both talkies ka poster agar bagal mein laga hota tha aur Talash film ke poster mein likha milta tha EK CRORE RUPAYE KA CHITRA .Tab humare father ki salary Rs 125 ke aas Paas thi . Bhale wo gujara samay the lekin mushkilon se hi bhara rehta tha .Aaj bhi same pattern hai ,ek crore aaj bhi nahin ban paya .
Every song has its destiny. Cant say Mukesh wouldn't have sung it brilliantly. Mukesh, Manna Dey, Mohd Rafi, Talat all unique voices and legends. They all could sing the same song brilliantly. Unless we recorded all, we would never know whose voice suited the best In Sujatha, SD Burman insisted on 'Jalte Hain Jiske Liye' be given to Mohd Rafi. But the film makers wanted Talat. SD Burman even insulted Talat by saying 'please don't spoil the song' as he came in for recording. But Talat recorded it and the rest is History.
धन्यवाद शावेझजी “ तलाश” मुव्ही के कीस्सेके लिये । ये मामला कुछ “ इगो “ का टकराव कह सकते है हम सब ! ऐसा है की ओ. पी. रल्हन साबने बुजुर्ग संगीतकार सचिनदा के उमर और अनुभव का मान रखकर बात इतनी खिचना नहीं चाहीये थी !…शुक्र है गोल्डीजीने मॅटरमें समेट कीया !
Yeh op ralhan ki kardo rupyeki film thi unki shipng company thi pure ships ko bechkar unhone yah film banti thi us waqt filmki advise o p ralhanki kardoki film aise hoti film acchi chali our po ralhan finance me acche khase ho gaye humne bachnme yeh film dekhi thi Rafi sabka aur ek gana accha tha apki jankari khubsurat aur Dil ko chu lenewali hai shkriya
The Hon'ble announcer sir has pronounced the name of O P Ralhan wrongly. He is calling him "REHLAN" in stead of "RALHAN" to be noted carefully, it reflects shameful upon him ....... to be seriously taken care of .......
That song is not that popular. If mukesh would have sung it it would have become more popular. And similarly Rafi or Kishore. These three are gems. With all respect to Manna his sounds good for classical but not for any actors. Actors are ordinary people and potraying them as great classical singers looks unsuitable. Mukesh singing simple yet touches the heart. But Burman da , nayyar sahab and Ravi gave very little songbto mukesh.
Mukesh Bhi Bahut Achhe Gayak Thay Unka Apna Style Bhi Khoob Tha. Yahan Baat Ye Hai Ke SD Burman Sahab Bahut Bade Music Director Ho Ne Ki Wajah Se Wo Behtar Jaante Thay Ke Kaun Sa Gaana Kis Se Gawaya Jai.
No offence meant but think SB Burman had issues with almost half the industry people...right from Lata Mangeshkar to Guru Dutt...Sahir Ludhianvi To Mehmood ...O.P Ralhan...last but not the least with Dev Anand too...he didn't like song Dev Anand's song picturizations...he had composed memorable music no doubt but he also had his share of mediocre numbers....
@@Utubeshorts024Mukesh had no classical expertise. He would fail. His voice would not touch the higher notes. Manna Dey did full justice to this intricate song.
@@Abhik17D mukesh ji had all the expertise that other singer dint have.. He always did justice with all the songs that other singers could not.. He just focused to win over the hearts of common man instead of doing miracles in classicals..
No Music director knows about the voice of singers. So it wouldn't be so full of raagdari,aur harkat but don't underestimate S D , he would make it good in the film but due to MANNADS it becomes unforgettable.
मुकेश ऐक अमर गायक हे जो हम सबके लिये पुजनीय हे मुकेश साहब कि आवाज दिल कि गहराई को छु जाती हे ऐसी बात दुसरे सिंगरो मे कहा
दादा बर्मन का चयन बिल्कुल सही था,इस शास्त्रीय गीत को मन्ना डे के सिवा कोई गा भी नहीं सकता था,आप बर्मन दा के गाए एक गीत का जिक्र भूल गए,"मेरी दुनिया है मां,तेरे आंचल में"...जिसके कमाल के लिरिक्स के लिए मजरुह साहब को सलाम !
Voice of god Mukesh
Mukeshji - voice of God
धन्यवाद किस्सा बताने के लिए
मन्ना डे ही उपयुक्त हैं इस गीत के लिए
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Your soul for purity & simplicity is clear. You continue to bring stories which are divine & blissful.
Thank you 👍👌
बर्मन दादा की सोच एकदम सही थी इस तरह के क्लासिकल गीत के लिए मन्ना दा की आवाज परफेक्ट थी 🙏🏻
Great information
মুকেশ চন্দ্র মাথুর জী । ঈশ্বর কন্ঠ।
बहुत शानदार जानकारी आपने दी है शुक्रिया। योगेन्द्र श्याम लोकायती
Dhanyawad apka
Shahvez Saheb I watched your channel 'Retro Shahvez Stories' today. It is very good. You bring really good stories. It should be marketed well to find more audience.
Ok thank you so much.. I m typing to provide good Real stories..
Producers should not interfere with music directors since music directors are better authority in deciding the playback singer.
Palko kee piche se Rafi Lata best song of talash
मुझे समझ नहीं आ रहा कि ओ पी रल्हन साहब ने यह सोच ही कैसे लिया कि यह गीत आदरणीय मुकेश जी गाएंगे। मुकेश जी बहुत ही अच्छे गायक थे लेकिन यह गीत मन्ना डे ही गा सकते थे।
मुझे याद है कि विविध भारती पर इस फ़िल्म के विज्ञापन में बताया जाता था कि भारत की करोड़ रुपये की पहली फ़िल्म तलाश थी।
बहुत सुंदर किस्सा है🌹🌹
Bahut accha laga 🎉🎉🎉😊
Thank you
Although I am an ardent admirer of Mukesh, I believe Manny Dey performed exceptionally well in rendering this song.
Incidentally, from the same film, my personal favorite is Lata Mangeshkar’s rendition of “Khayi Hai Re Humne Kasam.”
Is classic geet ko to mannaday .sahab hi gaa sakte thea..ss
Logon ke paas paisa or power hoti hai toh samajhate hain unko hi sab knowledge hai......obviously it was this arrogance of OP Ralhan that he didn't honor the opinion, which was absolutely correct , of such a senior pro like SD Burman.
Very nice information please👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Thank you
बहोतही बढिया infomation.
Thanks
Such incident happened in Mughal e Azam. K Asit interventedm.
Nxt day Naushad had started telling lightman to change light, ask cameraman to change trolley shot, Asif was angry.
But he learned a lesson.
Ralhan was a money minded business man . And had a commercial sense of Music.
मान्ना day ने एक गीत आनंद फिल्म के लिये गाया था वोह गाना बॅकग्राऊंड के लिये था , जब राजेश खन्ना ने गीत सुना तब उन्होने कहा ये गीत मेरे उप्पर फिल्मला जाया, जिंदगी कैसेही पहेली है ....
O p ralhan hai rahlan nahein
बहुत ही उम्दा जानकरी 👌🙏
Dhanyawad
Aapke iss ounda peshkash mujhe bohot achhi lagi
Thank you
धन्यवाद रेट्रो शावेज >>>>>>>
स्व.बर्मनदा सही थे, स्व मुकेशकी आवाज
लो पीच की थी जोकी मन्नादाका स्वर गीतको
ऊंचाईपर ले गया.(स्व.कीशोरकुमारके एक फील्म मे सचिनदाही__स्व.मो.रफी के ही
आवाजके लीये आग्रही रहे और वही हुवा था.)
महान हस्तीयोंकी "हटयोगी" वृत्तीही ऐसे डटके
रह सकती है.
सभी दिग्गजोंका मनस्वी स्मरण!. 卐ॐ卐
Every song has its destiny. Cant say Mukesh wouldn't have sung it brilliantly. Mukesh, Manna Dey, Mohd Rafi, Talat all unique voices and legends. They all could sing the same song brilliantly. Unless we recorded all, we would never know whose voice suited the best
In Sujatha, SD Burman insisted on 'Jalte Hain Jiske Liye' be given to Mohd Rafi. But the film makers wanted Talat. SD Burman even insulted Talat by saying 'please don't spoil the song' as he came in for recording. But Talat recorded it and the rest is History.
Mukesh was better and the best for this number
Nice information
Mukeshji was a good singer, a very good singer who sang many good songs. But for this song, Manna Dey was the first and last choice. In my opinion, as far as raag-based /semi classical songs were concernced, Manna Dey was the best male playback singer in the Bombay film industry.Nobody, I repeat, nobody could hold a candle to him.
Film achi hain sabhi geet ache hain khaye re hum ne kasam . Aaj ko Juneli raat ma
Palkon ke peeche... and Junli Raat ma... were super hit songs of this film. Mukesh would be better choice for the song.
No Music director knows about the voice of singers. So it wouldn't be so full of raagdari,aur harkat but don't underestimate S D , he would make it good in the film but due to MANNADS it becomes unforgettable.
Nice ❤
Asp ki ye peshkash bahut acchi lagi aur SDB ka decision perfect hi tha .
Almost sabhi songs acche the .
Aap ne sahi kaha hai.Main 4th standard mein tha tabhi .Hum log jab school jate the to humare Shahar ki both talkies ka poster agar bagal mein laga hota tha aur Talash film ke poster mein likha milta tha EK CRORE RUPAYE KA CHITRA .Tab humare father ki salary Rs 125 ke aas Paas thi . Bhale wo gujara samay the lekin mushkilon se hi bhara rehta tha .Aaj bhi same pattern hai ,ek crore aaj bhi nahin ban paya .
Apni yaadein humse sajha karne ke liye shukriya
Manna De is far better singer of this type of songs
Nice
Cannot imagine Mukesh singing this song. Sachin Da was right !
Every song has its destiny. Cant say Mukesh wouldn't have sung it brilliantly. Mukesh, Manna Dey, Mohd Rafi, Talat all unique voices and legends. They all could sing the same song brilliantly. Unless we recorded all, we would never know whose voice suited the best
In Sujatha, SD Burman insisted on 'Jalte Hain Jiske Liye' be given to Mohd Rafi. But the film makers wanted Talat. SD Burman even insulted Talat by saying 'please don't spoil the song' as he came in for recording. But Talat recorded it and the rest is History.
धन्यवाद शावेझजी “ तलाश” मुव्ही के कीस्सेके लिये । ये मामला कुछ “ इगो “
का टकराव कह सकते है हम सब ! ऐसा है
की ओ. पी. रल्हन साबने बुजुर्ग संगीतकार
सचिनदा के उमर और अनुभव का मान रखकर बात इतनी खिचना नहीं चाहीये थी !…शुक्र है गोल्डीजीने मॅटरमें समेट कीया !
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It was very foolish of O P Ralhan to doubt the musical acumen of Sachin Da "the great"
Absolutely RIGHT.
नहीं सर, आप भी जानते हैं कि mannade का कोई mukabla नहीं है। मुकेश जी के पास रेंज नहीं है
Read as Mannada😂
छोटा मुंह और बड़ी बात
ये song मन्नाडे जी से गवाना उचित था 🙏
નાઈસ
Yeh op ralhan ki kardo rupyeki film thi unki shipng company thi pure ships ko bechkar unhone yah film banti thi us waqt filmki advise o p ralhanki kardoki film aise hoti film acchi chali our po ralhan finance me acche khase ho gaye humne bachnme yeh film dekhi thi Rafi sabka aur ek gana accha tha apki jankari khubsurat aur Dil ko chu lenewali hai shkriya
Apka bhi shukriya
Burman Da was right. Mannadey sang this extremely well.
Rochak jankari 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Excellent information. OP Rahlan was wrong. Mukesh would not have fitted into the pitch of the song.
Mukeshji would not have sang this classic song properly sdb was best to judge singers voice
Manna ki hi awaaz suit karti hai is gaane mein.
You are pronunncing as O P 'Rahlan' instead of 'Ralhan'
Mannada is my favorite ❤
The Hon'ble announcer sir has pronounced the name of O P Ralhan wrongly. He is calling him "REHLAN" in stead of "RALHAN" to be noted carefully, it reflects shameful upon him ....... to be seriously taken care of .......
Read Manna da.
ओ.पी.रहलन नहीं, बल्कि रलहन हैँ।
Is it not Ralhan ? To the best of my knowledge, Rahlan being pronounced is not correct. Correct me if I am wrong. By the way great information. 😊
With all due respect to everyone, the music director’s opinion should be the last word on singer of the song
Ralhan thought he knew better than SDB in matters of music? That's ridiculous. That song was a hit and Mukesh never sang a semi classical song!
Good story.... But it is OP Ralhan....not Rahlan.... You must pronounce correctly....
It was foolish of OP Ralhan to expect Mukesh to sing a classical song. Burman Da was dead right !
Yeh geet manna dey ji aawaaz sahi hai
That song is not that popular. If mukesh would have sung it it would have become more popular. And similarly Rafi or Kishore. These three are gems. With all respect to Manna his sounds good for classical but not for any actors. Actors are ordinary people and potraying them as great classical singers looks unsuitable. Mukesh singing simple yet touches the heart. But Burman da , nayyar sahab and Ravi gave very little songbto mukesh.
How can you say this
Taken from very Trusted website
मन्ना डे साब के आगे कहा टिके मुकेश।😂
राज साहब अभिनीत चोरी चोरी
Sd'mukedhji'rfisahab'mnnadye'am op sir sare apni jgha dhuarender the koi kisi se km nhi
Comment from London...
SD was right, Mukesh would NOT have matched ManaDey at all.
Mukesh was not v good at classical singing.
This is a classical based song and Mukesh ji could never have sung it
(3:15) Mukesh ki awaz me yah gaana honese to behtar hota film me yah geeet hi na hota.
Mukesh Bhi Bahut Achhe Gayak Thay Unka Apna Style Bhi Khoob Tha. Yahan Baat Ye Hai Ke SD Burman Sahab Bahut Bade Music Director Ho Ne Ki Wajah Se Wo Behtar Jaante Thay Ke Kaun Sa Gaana Kis Se Gawaya Jai.
No offence meant but think SB Burman had issues with almost half the industry people...right from Lata Mangeshkar to Guru Dutt...Sahir Ludhianvi To Mehmood ...O.P Ralhan...last but not the least with Dev Anand too...he didn't like song Dev Anand's song picturizations...he had composed memorable music no doubt but he also had his share of mediocre numbers....
Mughle Azam cost much more than 1 crore
Mukesh toh gaane ka Nash kar deta. Mukesh ko classical gana nahi aata tha, bilkul flat singing karta tha.
Kannada could only sing tere naina,even Rafi couldn't, Mukesh not at all.😊
U dnt know who was mukesh ji.. No one could do what he could do..
I do agree with you.
@@Utubeshorts024Mukesh had no classical expertise. He would fail. His voice would not touch the higher notes. Manna Dey did full justice to this intricate song.
You don't know the names of the singers and you talk about Rafi Sahab's singing capabilities.
@@Abhik17D mukesh ji had all the expertise that other singer dint have.. He always did justice with all the songs that other singers could not.. He just focused to win over the hearts of common man instead of doing miracles in classicals..
This is childish behaviour of S.D. Burman.
A professional considers every aspect.
Mukesh ko classical singing nahi aati thi. Woh gaane ka kachra kar deta.
क्लासिकल गीत तो मन्नाडे साहब से अच्छा कोई गा ही नहीं सकता
No Music director knows about the voice of singers. So it wouldn't be so full of raagdari,aur harkat but don't underestimate S D , he would make it good in the film but due to MANNADS it becomes unforgettable.
Nice