Quick Disassembly/Reassembly of the Pro Series Bullpup from Black Aces Tactical
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This is just a VERY quick Disassembly/Reassembly of the Pro Series Bullpup from Black Aces Tactical. Prior to purchasing, I looked everywhere and could not find fieldstrip/dissasembly info anywhere, so I decided to make a video just in case it could help anyone else out.
The Pro Series Bullpup is the semiautomatic FD12 shotgun manufactured by Hunt Group and imported by Black Aces Tactical. It shoots REALLY nicely, with surprisingly low recoil
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No gun sales. I am an FFL Dealer & Firearms Instructor located in Tucson AZ, however, I am not a professional gunsmith or videographer. This video was made for entertainment & educational purposes only. I will not be held responsible for resulting bodily harm/injury or damage to your self or firearm, as a result of watching or performing the actions demonstrated in this video. Wear proper eye & ear protection at all times.
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Even after tightening down the locking nut for the gas chamber, there is a small space for my stainless gas piston to move back and forth (about 1/16th of an inch). Is that normal?
Thanks for checking out the video, Micah... I don't believe there should be movement there and I'm not really sure what would allow that to happen, honestly. Sometimes you kind of have to crank down on the locking nut. If you would, try that and let me know if you still experience issues. Thanks again
@@Delta7Nine thanks for the response. I’ve checked, double checked and rechecked again. Weapon function (outside of actually firing some shells) seems to be OK. I can’t crank down the locking nut any tighter than it is. Wish the manual had better instruction.
@@MicahV86 Man... not really sure what it could be. Sorry I couldn't be more help. If anyone else reading this has any ideas, please comment
@@Delta7Nine I got a hold of Black Aces and they said it’s normal to have some movement for the gas piston to go back and forth when the gas chamber is fully locked and assembled.
@@MicahV86 excellent information! Surprised they got back to you that quickly. I'm going to pin this convo to the top for anyone else experiencing this. Thanks so very much for reporting back. Stay safe & well!
Thanks I only have about 20 shells through it but now after watching you go through it I feel more confident about it. To me I love this thing
This was a GREAT no non-sense field strip and assembly for this awesome shotgun I just bought! Thanks @Delta7Nine I think you may wanna reconsider buying this badass shotgun again LOL
First I want to say what a great and simple video. I just ordered one from PSA on sale and can't wait to get it in my hands! It seems to me by reading the comments made that this gun is and can be a pain in the ass. I want to thank you for your responses and video so hopefully I will have an easier time when I try it my first time!!
Thxs bro my dad asked me to clean it for him and this helped a lot Thxs bro
Thanks for the detailed video. Made disassembly a lot easier. 👍
Thanks for watching and commenting... much appreciated!
I lost my manual last year thank you so much I’ve never been able to take apart my fd12!
You're welcome! Awesome to hear that it helped
Thanks for the walk through. The charging handle and pins can be a PITA! I had to use a hammer for one of the pins and some pliers for the charging handle.
I appreciate you checking out the video, hope it helped. Yeah, the charging handle & pins can be tight, but should loosen up some over time.
Punch works great for both
As i type this im fighting like hell to pull the charging handle out.
Excellent straight forward, great video
Thank you very much!
It would be awesome to find a video for the FD12 pump action. Because the semi auto and pump action have different disassembles
Great idea & totally agree! It didn't dawn on me, because I don't own it, but if I can get my hands on one, I'll make the vid for sure. Let me ask around...
I got tired of waiting for the Panzer Arms and pulled the trigger, glad I did. Any word on the barrel construction? Where did you get your gloves? What choke did you go with and why? Did you test out a range of ammo? I was a Master Training Specialist in the Navy, you get an ”A.”
Sorry for not responding, I didn't get any notifications of comments... not sure about the barrel construction, sorry. Gloves are just cheapy ones from Ace Hardware. I've since gotten a pair of Hardy gloves from Harbor Freight that are much better. They have a grippier texture where the other ones were SUPER slippery when oil got on them. I didn't change out the choke from factory. I believe mine came with the number 1 installed. Didn't do an ammo range test, just some Federal #00 Buckshot & Aguila #8. Thanks for the kind words!
Hey D79, I just did my first field strip, clean and lube. That barrel nut wrench is way to small, two applications of WD 40 and one hour got it off. I was surprised at the number of contact surfaces needing grease. Harbor Freight has the best 50 cal cans too.
@@SQUID_Road_Glide I agree, the first disassembly, everything was EXTREMELY tight, but it got much easier. Truly glad the video helped and hope you stay safe & well, my friend!
@@Delta7Nine Same to you and yours. I think the general naiveté of our fellow citizens has woken to the fragility of governments with COVID-19. It is embarrassing for me to have waited so long to invest in home defense. Mama use to say, "No guns."
Agreed, great Video A+!
Very nice and thanks for sharing. I plan on buying one later this year myself.
Thanks for the kind words. I think you'll really like it. It shoots exceptionally soft, for a Shotgun. Black Aces suggests a break-in of at least 25 #00 Buckshot, so that's what I did using Federal ammo and it runs flawlessly. For some reason, it doesn't like the primers on Aguila #8 (perhaps they are a bit harder).
BUY IT NOW (11/21) !!!!! They are on clearance @ PSA. They have around 7 different models (Pump vs. Semi & different colors). Prices ranging from $299 - $399. Mine was the pro as show in this video... $430 taxed/shipped.
Thanks for this !
REVERSE THREAD'S: Notice he is turning right to loosen all the threads except 1 which is the gas piston..... Don't crank down on anything with the usual righty tightly American standard thread turn......😉
@Delta7nine when you did your very first disassembly, how much effort and what technique did you use to remove the bolt/bolt carrier rail assembly from the upper ? Mine isn't budging, and I don't want to beat on it quite yet. I have read that after you removing it the first time, it's easier every time after.
I put my barrel shroud back on then took an orange dead blow hammer to it with a few solid swings all the way around and it eventually came loose. Took me about 3-5 minutes, but I took my time and was constantly checking. Also, any oil you can get between it and the receiver might help.
Manual? What manual? Mine came with very little in the way of info. Yes, it had instructions with good pictures for field stripping, but 80% of it was safety cya and only a couple of pages about the actual firearm.
Great video btw!
I agree the Manual left a lot to be desired in the way of info, so some of the disassembly was trial and error, but shooting this bullpup more than makes up for it! Thanks for watching & for the kind words. Stay safe out there.
Thanks for this video, real helpful!
You're welcome! Thanks for the kind words, my friend
My barrel shroud is stuck. Is it a left hand thread?
Sorry for not responding, I didn't get any notifications of comments. I'm sure you've got it figured out by now, but it needs to be turned clockwise, opposite of righty-tighty, lefty-loosey.
Very nice disassembly and reassembly. Are all the nuts left hand threaded? 👍
Thanks Dave, I truly appreciate it!
Hey thanks for the video. Do you have one on how to clean and lube the fd12? Just wondering what parts need lube.
Simpler than I expected. Much more simple than my semi auto Mossberg. Is it piston or gas operated?
Thanks for watching & great question... it's gas operated
To be complete, it is a gas operated piston. The piston captures gas pressure to move the bolt, as opposed to a gas impingement system, such as the M16 5.56 rifle (and most AR15) uses.
Pause the video at 1:20 and you can see the large spring. The right end of it disappears inside a short black tube. That is the gas chamber. Inside that gas chamber is the piston which goes around the barrel, like a donut. Further to the right, towards the end of the barrel, there is a small hole in the side of the barrel, which allows burned propellant gases into the gas chamber, which causes the piston to push the bolt back away from the barrel chamber and towards the butt of the gun, and begin the shell ejection, pickup and chambering process.
@@davidrowley8251 Interesting. Do you know if it is a short stroke gas piston? I was wondering how the recoil would be.
My Mossberg 930 is gas operated and it has a gas piston assembly but it is far from reliable as a traditional gas piston, because it accumulates a lot of carbon and lead around the gas cylinder.
Thanks for the vid, would you happen to have a link for those iron sites?
How much? Why do so many 2nd tear companys make these pullpup shotguns? MUST BE EASY TO MANUFACTURE RIGHT?
Is everything a left hand thread or is that one of those reverse images caused by the filming?
Thanks for watching and for the great question... the image is correct, so everything threads/un-threads as it appears
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Can I switch the charging handle to the right side?
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could not get mine to actually come off. tried holding the spring away and it kinda worked for a second but couldn't get the bolt out. Any tips?
If you got the stainless steel nut off, you'll just need to compress the main spring to get the bolt out. You may need to hold it at a downward angle and using a slight twisting/shaking motion, let the bolt fall onto a soft surface. If you still have an issue, upload a quick vid and send me the link and I'll see if I can assist further
@Delta7Nine I also replied to you about this. I believe he is talking about the entire carrier..... its very tight inside the upper receiver and I believe needs to be hammered out the first time... I cant remove mine either.... waiting for further advice
My bolt in my pro series bull pup black aces 12ga semi auto will not drop out
I truly apologize Kenneth, I didn’t get the notification of your comment… have you gotten the issue figured out? If not, let me know and we’ll see if we can get you sorted
I can't get the upper and lower to "re-marry". The front of the upper lifts up while inserting the rear, and vice versa. The instruction manual says to push the bolt a little backwards while connecting the upper and lower. And that didn't work. Any advise?
Thanks for watching. In my case, when I had this issue, it was because the sling attachment was not in the proper position. I hope that helps.
@@Delta7Nine Me too! I had just found what was wrong after commenting. I couldn't remember if the sling attachment is supposed to be on the left side or right side. I'm all set now :)
@@tacticalbilly7602 Glad you got it sorted!
Awesome video
My rear pin is really stuck in there the one most forward came out no to big of a deal but I cannot push out the other? Did y’all have trouble? Any idea why it’s binding? Any tips?
Apologies, for some reason I don't get notifications of comments anymore... I would use a punch and lightly tap it
Same with mine you have to squeeze the upper and lower together and its still a nightmare to get the rear pin in and out
Rear pins on bullpups are usually more difficult than the front pin. I own 2 of these and the rear pin is a bear to push out, I can't do it with just my hand.... but nothing a simple punch can't take care of. Just make sure you're using the right size punch that is the same size as the hole and not a punch that is too small and will deform the "detent wire" inside of the pen.
Why a barrel shroud? Just to add weight out on the far moment of the barrel? Just for looks?
In this case, it appears to screw in place to hold put pressure on the collar that holds the "Operator Handle" in place.
@@Delta7Nine Thank you. That looks like a pretty slick setup. I suppose the shround helps a tiny bit with heat as well. Have you had continued good luck with the weapon?
@@lexwaldez I did have good luck with it after break in, but I ended up selling it to finance another project. In hind-sight, I really wish I hadn't, and will most likely purchase another in the near future
Cannot remove the charging handle. Is there a special trick to it?
Thanks for watching!! Some can be REALLY difficult... I would say try to add a few drops of oil and then pull straight up and kind of wiggle it back and forth at the same time. Hopefully it'll work.
@@Delta7Nine thanks for reply. Since there is no detente pin or other means of it held it place, I used a punch and small hammer to punch it out from the other side
@@MrDallasboy77 Awesome man! Glad to hear that and I'm sure that'll help others. Thanks again
Great video, very thorough and easy to follow. You should have more subs. I will give you a shout out on my channel when I review this shotgun in a few weeks.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I truly appreciate it.
@@Delta7Nine I shared and pinned this video to my tabletop review I did of the FD12. No need for me to make a video with this one doing such a good job. th-cam.com/video/1cf89Q15jtM/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much, for your continued kind words. I truly appreciate it and wish you much continued success
How often do you need to clean the gas chamber on this one?
I haven't seen/read anything as to actual intervals, however, I am pretty OCD about keeping my firearms clean (and actually enjoy the process as well, haha) so I would clean mine after every few times of shooting, if not each time. But again, that's just me. Most people would probably only do so if the firearm starts functioning differently or is noticeably & overly dirty. Hope that helps some and thanks for checking out the video!
My charging handle pin will not come out to disassemble. Any recommendations?
Dude its probably just a little stuck, pull and twist it’s supposed to come out and you should be able to instal it on either left or right side
Like the good doctor said above, it can be a bit tough to get it out. You'll just need to bear down on the firearm and pull while twisting a bit at the same time. If that doesn't work, upload a quick vid of the issue and I'll try to assist as much as I can. Thanks!
I had the same problem and it drove me nuts cause I didn't want to break it. No matter how hard I pulled, it just wouldn't come off. A buddy of mine suggested placing a flat-head screwdriver on the opposite side of the charging handle, tap it with a hammer and it will come out. Same thing with the locking pins, only this time using the screwdriver as a wedge while pressing on the pin. Both worked for me.
I've had a horrible experience with my Black Aces Tactical Bullpup Pro-Series semi-auto. The lower is injection molded and mine is warped so badly that the upper doesn't fit properly. I need to DRIVE out the takedown pins with a hammer and punch. The safety selector has a very high effort, partially due to interference from the warped lower. The trigger effort is extremely high. That's partly a common challenge with remote triggers on bullpups, but the lower warpage creates additional friction. It doesn't reliably cycle target loads. Even after a couple hundred rounds it fails to properly eject around 10% of the time. I contacted the manufacturer to fix the issues under warranty, but it took months to get a very poor response. The CEO's comment was, "Sir, it seems the gun functions proper, are we correct in that?" Clearly he and I have different opinions of how a proper firearm should function. I bought this for 3-gun competitions, but it's going to take a lot of work to get it where it needs to be.
Sorry to hear about that man... I haven't had to deal with their Customer Service or CEO, but definitely not the answer anyone wants to hear. Keep us updated on the progression, will you?
Anyone know what magazines the FD-12 uses, and where to purchase 10 or 12 rd magazines for this? Thanks!
I bought some 10 rounders from Black Aces Tactical, not sure where else, apologies
Atlantic Firearms, if they ever get them in stock again.
Turkish 1919 mags
Do optics retain zero after field-strip?
Thanks for watching! I honestly don't know as I only have the flip-up MBUS-style sights installed, but they didn't move at all. The Shotgun actually shoots really soft, I think due to the large main spring.
Still having a hard time getting the barrel off
Hey Paul, thanks for watching… are you referring to the barrel shroud?
Is there a specific torque for the barrel nut or is it just hand tight?
As far as I am aware, it is just hand-tight. There were no real specifications on that, unfortunately
@@Delta7Nine I just performed it now as we speak. I just sat on the upper and tightened it down. Did you ever experience problems when barrel nuts coming loose?
@@nickadams2951 No, never came loose and I put quite a few rounds through on a number of different occasions. I wouldn't over-tighten it, personally, because it'll be really hard to get back off later. Just snug it up real good and you SHOULD be good to go.
@@Delta7Nine 👍 ur the man. Thanks
@@nickadams2951 Haha, thanks! Just glad it helped. Stay safe man
I can not for the life of me get the forearm stock to come off..shrouds off..charging handles out..it WILL NOT BUDGE
Hey Spenc, thanks for checking out the Vid... the charging handle can be a bear. The only suggestion I have is to put some gun cleaner/oil/CLP in at the base and let it sit for a bit, then try to pull it out. Some people have had to use pliers, but BE VERY CAREFUL so you don't ruin the handle or bolt. Sorry I don't have much more in the way of help on that, but hope the above helps!
@@Delta7Nine the charging handle and shroud are off..I can't get the forearm stock to slide off, iv heard u really have to tap it but I think the grease they put on it created a seal and is making it so much harder to come off
Apologies, I misread... I thought you were saying the charging handles wouldn't come out. The operator handle may need to really be tugged on to get off the first time. On this, wouldn't bang on it too much but wedge it int your hip and tugging against the operator handle while pulling the pistol grip into your body. You can try to cleaner/oil idea around the seal, maybe even a hair dryer to heat it up a bit. Again, hope this helps. If not, keep commenting and we'll get this fixed for you!
@@Delta7Nine thank u..I may just break it in at the range first and that may loosen things up
@@spencerhighley4231 Yeah, having it cycle some rounds should definitely help. If not, shoot a video of the problem so I can get a better look, or, it may just need to go back to the MFG to be repaired
my barrel shroud will not come off for the life of me
Make sure you’re turning it Righty-loosey - opposite of normal. If it still gives you trouble, you may need to hit it with a little heat gun near the threads (but not too much). Hope one of those works!
@@Delta7Nine OMFG LOL RIGHTLY LOOSYYYYYYYYYYYY THANKSLOL
@@emotionlessmarshmallow4581 Did it work?
@@Delta7Nine ive heard they have came loose during shooting. mine has came loose a couple times. any way to fix?
@@Delta7Nine yes it worked lol thanks\
This guy shouldn't teach anybody anything. Way too fast and is not clearly showing anything. 1:32
Apologies it didn’t live up to your standards, Professor 😂 I’ll try to do better
In all seriousness, though, it does say “Quick” in the title… at the end of the day, I couldn’t find a video on the subject, so I made one to help others. Stay safe!
I lost my manual last year thank you so much I’ve never been able to take apart my fd12!
Can I change the charging handle to the right side?
Thanks for checking out the video. Yes you can, it’s ambidextrous. Just pull it out of the left, as shown and re-insert into the slot on the right