That actually would make it a lot better of a character. Imperial Legions(Unique): Whenever Stormtrooper gains Tenacity Up, Defense Up, or Taunt, they gain a stack of Reinforcements, and if General Veers, *Darth Vader, Grand Moff Tarkin, Emperor Palpatine* are present, Stormtrooper gains one stack of Reinforcements at the start of the battle. Reinforcements: Whenever this unit is defeated, they are revived and consume one stack of Reinforcements. Maximum 5 stacks. bolded is an omega or zeta.
I think it would work okay. It probably would need a bit of tweaking, but it would be different enough to most revive mechanics. I thought it would be a good fit if having important Empire characters gave the Stormtrooper a bit of a head start, considering that if they're there, there's probably more stormtroopers behind them.
Thank you for the video Ahnald! I read zombie's descriptions about 5 times and couldn't understand it. I hear you reading it and it all makes sense to me now! Also if you didn't want to auto the imps, dt's terminate can prevent revive as well. So it's good to see that there is a better mechanic for the night sisters to revive and be more annoying, but still allow characters with revive prevention to not take a hard nerf from it.
The above response, except the exact opposite. They don't want you maximising the potential of a character without maximising your spending ($ on gear). It isn't for the benefit of players at all. It's essentially greed and spite. Just like how they nerfed everything that worked in the STR. I'm not even mad, it's just how it is.
@@flickflack Yep, credit where it's due. They've listened to a lot of feedback recently. That's not really my point though. Zombie didn't need a rework except that they thought we were getting away with something.
Nothing in swgoh has ever been nerfed iirc (not counting changes to raids). Only superceded. Anyway, I think the Triumvirate is way more broken. Also Nest is just dumb.
I'm glad to what the arena is becoming, now there isn't just 2 or 1 meta team, now its scissor-paper-rock, 1 team kills another one who kills another one and this keeps going on = )
I really felt zombie was broken when she first came out, infinite revives is a crazy mechanic.. though I also feel nest is broken.. I'm farming her now, so hopefully they don't nerf her as well lol
Thor, I hear you. For me, the reason I feel nest may be a bit broken, is bc whenever putting a team together, one has to literally plan for how to defeat her. There is no other toon in the game that as a stand-alone, on virtually any squad, has that much potential. Also, a 2-toon squad on Qi'ra-lead and nest, can beat a number of top squads, including bastilla jedi which is a top meta team. I could be wrong, but I can't think of many other 2-toon teams that are capable of that. And while Qi'ra lead is important in that one context, it's still mostly bc of nest. Don't get me wrong, I have my nest almost to 7* now, so the last thing I want is for them to change her. And I seriously hope they don't. But just trying to be honest and impartial, she's got a very op mechanic, and may be the best non-lead, stand-alone toon in the game imo. You can put her on almost any squad and she works great. Again, I don't want her to be changed. Just being honest, she's a pretty dominant toon imo. Also, when you say "one-shot," do you mean you often kill nest, health protection and all, w one shot from a single toon? If so, please tell me who this toon is! Bc I must be missing out..
Also Thor, do you watch those pitch meeting vids? I'm not sure if "barely an inconvenience," is an allusion to to those vids.. if so, I also enjoy those vids and think they're quite funny too! :-)
I was REALLY hoping you would show Imperial Troopers against Nightsisters and was so happy you did. Thank you! I was genuinely curious about how the Nightsisters Zombie rework would affect them. Turns out not by much, lol. Also, why did you use Shoretrooper instead of Colonel Starck? I'm genuinely curious.
I have got an idea for what an ability on BB-9E could be: cleanse all debuffs off all Allies or (just First Order and Droids), but instead of getting rid of debuffs completely, he/she inflicts them on all the opponents characters and it can't be avoided or resisted, just like Yoda that can gain all the buffs from the opposite team. That would be a powerful special ability and proberly 5 turn cooldown, or more maybe? To go with the droid theme he/she could have Target Lock and maybe stun too on the basic attack. I think it would fit BB-9E to be a support cleanser, but also do the opposite of what BB-8 does and apply a lot of debuffs and thats something the First order doesn't have a lot of and needs! He/she could also have a heal of some sort, since they don't have a healer either, maybe it applies a or multiple buffs on the allies or (just First Order and Droids). And to top it all off, a AOE Special Attack that can apply shock, maybe stun too. BB-9E has the potential to become a very importen and very needed First Order Support and can have some synergi with droids as well. This is just ideas and speculations on what BB-9E's potential could be and I want to hear what the rest of the community thinks about this and their own suggestions!?
Thank you for doing this, this really needed clarification. However I've read that Talzin leads are utterly worthless with the new zombie. Asajj is supposed to be the best now. I'm hesitant to gear up zombie because I dont want a new strategy to pop up that requires a paper one
Bastilla.Jedi is bad against Night Sisters. Night Sisters are bad against Bounty Hunter. Bounty Hunter are bad against Bastilla.Jedi. It is the circle of life my friend.
Have you done any testing on NS for P3 of the HSTR? We're doing a raid right now which we had been able to split HSTR in the guild to use some in P3 and some in P4. We're finding the new mechanics totally screwed up the P3 runs, but will actually make them even easier to beat P4.
I've been refunded my Daka Zeta, is it really worth it with the new night sister zombie re work? I mostly use them for territory wars but it's still a fun team to play with
The tl;dr of this rework is "Give Darth Smirnoff a stroke while he's sitting on the shitter trying to figure out if he should upgrade this toon or not. He does not revive, but someone hears him crying and gets him medical attention just in time. Spread plague."
Thanks for doing this video Anhald! One question, what can we use instead of Range Trooper to beat NS now? MagmaTrooper? Ok one more... my NS really suck now in STR because i only have G7 zombie. So would you do a summary video on the best teams to use in STR (T6 and heroic) by phase, as I would prefer to spend my resources on new toons instead of NS? We are just trying out T6 this week. Anyway, it would be a great Christmas gift 🎁 ! ;)
Honestly, when i first saw this rework I was ... puzzled. But the more I looked at it, the less and less it looked like they'd really changed her all that much - except for the better. They gave her a good mass heal, and handy revive ally mechanic, and otherwise she's just like she was in any way that's important. Best. Nerf. Ever.
Hey ahnald, this is slightly off topic but it’s about jango fett. Have you spoken to anyone at CG about jango’s conflagration WAI or have any insight on it? I’ve tried looking but can’t find anything solid. Mainly I’m talking about it fulfilling his contract (but there are other situations that it doesn’t seem to be WAI). Hopefully you can give some solid insight. Love the videos!
If you kill them with a DOT ability, for example, Darth Vader's second ability, they won't revive. You have to apply the debuf and then wait until it's her turn to atack, so de DOT does the damage ands kill's them
NOOB question. My guild never had enough people to do territory wars so after 6 months I left and found a new guild last night. The territory war was set to start soon and when able to I joined. When the war started the event disappeared from the guild events and my guild says it's still in theirs. I was able to join a raid and received prizes. Did it disappear because I was less than 1 day in the guild? Or is this just a fluke?
hey Ahnaldt! Not sure how much is this a glitch or not, but when fighting Nihilus in tier 1 I was left with Spirit and Zombie who was at -100% speed; then, my spirit started beating the microtransactions out of Nihilus, with him barely able to take a turn; I was able to get him from about 50% to 8%, at which point he was able to Annihlate my Spirit, leaving my zombie just standing there, not taking a turn XD Can you please test it out and see what's what? Thanks in advance!
But u never mentioned if zombie rework nerfs death storm... (not running hstr, working towards it and we are relying on deathstorm tp still be viable to make the final jump.)
There is a guy called Endal Bael, has a YT channel, he posted a couple vids of Traya vs NS in Arena and NS even autoed one battle!!! P.S with the reworked Zombie
Hey Ahnald, should I try to farm Phoenix squad to 7 stars for the next Thrawn event? I'm level 75 with all 5 star Phoenix, though Ezra is almost 6 star and everyone else is getting there slowly but surely. The only seven star I have at the moment is Mace Windu, (I did that in early game) which is probably my biggest regret in life.
I don't know I mean I LOVE nightsisters and I wish it would make them more viable but you can see they still get wiped out easily by BH, Troopers, Sith...
I unlocked original trilogy Chewbacca with gear 4 cad bane, gear 7 ig 88, gear 8 greedo, gear 9 boba fett and dengar with decent potency modes. Guys it is beatable
Now where’s stormtrooper’s version of endless horde
Yes!! I wanna see that happen!
Noooo! Please no!
That actually would make it a lot better of a character.
Imperial Legions(Unique): Whenever Stormtrooper gains Tenacity Up, Defense Up, or Taunt, they gain a stack of Reinforcements, and if General Veers, *Darth Vader, Grand Moff Tarkin, Emperor Palpatine* are present, Stormtrooper gains one stack of Reinforcements at the start of the battle. Reinforcements: Whenever this unit is defeated, they are revived and consume one stack of Reinforcements. Maximum 5 stacks.
bolded is an omega or zeta.
+Boisegang i like that idea for sure make dark side awesome again!
I think it would work okay. It probably would need a bit of tweaking, but it would be different enough to most revive mechanics. I thought it would be a good fit if having important Empire characters gave the Stormtrooper a bit of a head start, considering that if they're there, there's probably more stormtroopers behind them.
Nightsister Zombie: *exists*
Veers: "It's free Turn Meter"
Hahahahaha!!!
Dude that’s hilarious xD
I've fought 1 Veers team, where I took 0 turns. Not even my Thrawn.
Meme Awards wants to know your location! 🤣🍻
@@boulderbob7425 The Death Star. In the trash compacter at the moment.
This took Nightsisters from annoying to a *GODDAMN NIGHTMARE*
this pos game will never get another dime from me
To rework list:
General Grievous ✖
Nightsister zombie ✔
that list should be so much longer ;)
Well you should edit this soon
You should edit GG has a rework
Talzin - Daka - Zombie is like a revive triumvirate now. Zombie ensures NS don't die too quickly while enemy is getting chipped away by plague.
As the video shows, Imp Troopers and Bounty Hunters with Boba+Jango are an excellent counter to NS.
Jango laughs at nightsisters. Who cares about preventable revives when you can prevent revives by jango on his turn, or by executing.
Bounty hunters with Bossk lead, Boba and Jango negates this mess.
Constant. Heals = no plague, Boba execute and Jango zeta = no resurrect of NS toons
Ooh! Looks like I finally have a reason to level up Nightsister zombie.
Thanks for keeping us up to date Ahnald!!! :D
Keep up the good work ahnald we appreciate the great content
Nightsisters are my favorite team in the game. I just love them.
Thank you for the video Ahnald! I read zombie's descriptions about 5 times and couldn't understand it. I hear you reading it and it all makes sense to me now! Also if you didn't want to auto the imps, dt's terminate can prevent revive as well. So it's good to see that there is a better mechanic for the night sisters to revive and be more annoying, but still allow characters with revive prevention to not take a hard nerf from it.
Great video that clarifies a lot of early questions after the NS zombie rework. Thanks.
I needed this. When I first saw it, I felt like I needed to have a degree to understand this. Thanks, Ahnald!
Why did we need this?
What about Windu?
Because you should always be able to make a toon stronger by investing more in them. You shouldn't be punished for investing more.
The above response, except the exact opposite. They don't want you maximising the potential of a character without maximising your spending ($ on gear). It isn't for the benefit of players at all. It's essentially greed and spite. Just like how they nerfed everything that worked in the STR. I'm not even mad, it's just how it is.
@@allconsuminghat- oh please. The Sith raid has been made easier twice now.
@@flickflack Yep, credit where it's due. They've listened to a lot of feedback recently. That's not really my point though. Zombie didn't need a rework except that they thought we were getting away with something.
I clicked like because why is there no love giving for Windu, the dude was able to use the darkside
Watching Troopers obliterate NS made my day LOL!
Ahnald: We're going to go and execute Old Daaka!
Me: Of course you are! She is already old!
Great video Anhald! Keep them coming!!! 😊
Nightsister teams are by far the most frustrating team to go against to this day
Man i hate those sisters in pvp... they’re so unfair
Yeah they can be reallllly annoying if you don’t have the right tools to face them
Boba and Jango are your friends
*jango laughing in the background*
standard Empire teams with Emperor Palpatine wipe out nightsisters easily.
This is one of the better of your videos. Good info, less yelling.
Loving the uploads
i think all the nightsisters in general need to be nerfed so far into the ground no one uses them anymore
i have a burning hatred for the nightsisters
Speak for yourself. They are my arena team. And my main team in raids.
Bounty hunters laugh at night sisters
Nothing in swgoh has ever been nerfed iirc (not counting changes to raids). Only superceded. Anyway, I think the Triumvirate is way more broken. Also Nest is just dumb.
i am speaking for myself
Never heard of nightsisters before this game
I'm glad to what the arena is becoming, now there isn't just 2 or 1 meta team, now its scissor-paper-rock, 1 team kills another one who kills another one and this keeps going on = )
Nightsisters have 0 fear
Imperial Troopers: *exist*
Nightsisters have *1* fear
Everybody on reddit was complaining how much of a nerf this was, meanwhile I was thinking how much harder the are to kill on an shard without trayas
Can you please test if Zarris will help NS (well modded for health/defence) survive IT attack?
Please be a nerf.
Please be a nerf.
For the love of god just be a nerf.
What is a Nerf?
nothing that happend to the zombie lol
@@ramongonzales3753 Making a weapon or character less stronger or making it more fair to play against.
Well, they nerfed her in the sense of making people's old strats around her being low-gear not viable for winning.
But yeah, otherwise it's a buff.
I really felt zombie was broken when she first came out, infinite revives is a crazy mechanic.. though I also feel nest is broken.. I'm farming her now, so hopefully they don't nerf her as well lol
Thor, I hear you. For me, the reason I feel nest may be a bit broken, is bc whenever putting a team together, one has to literally plan for how to defeat her. There is no other toon in the game that as a stand-alone, on virtually any squad, has that much potential. Also, a 2-toon squad on Qi'ra-lead and nest, can beat a number of top squads, including bastilla jedi which is a top meta team. I could be wrong, but I can't think of many other 2-toon teams that are capable of that. And while Qi'ra lead is important in that one context, it's still mostly bc of nest. Don't get me wrong, I have my nest almost to 7* now, so the last thing I want is for them to change her. And I seriously hope they don't. But just trying to be honest and impartial, she's got a very op mechanic, and may be the best non-lead, stand-alone toon in the game imo. You can put her on almost any squad and she works great. Again, I don't want her to be changed. Just being honest, she's a pretty dominant toon imo. Also, when you say "one-shot," do you mean you often kill nest, health protection and all, w one shot from a single toon? If so, please tell me who this toon is! Bc I must be missing out..
Also Thor, do you watch those pitch meeting vids? I'm not sure if "barely an inconvenience," is an allusion to to those vids.. if so, I also enjoy those vids and think they're quite funny too! :-)
Master Mace Windu still waiting for rework...
Grievous rework, when will it happen?!? Because I'm going to unlock him soon
You should be in the game
Still waiting as well, got him at 7 stars but it was NOT worth the grind.
I just unlocked my Grievous and I'm not taking him up until he gets that rework.
Would love to see a video on Jangos usefulness in the with raid and maybe seeing how viable Chewie would be under his lead in arena
And the things chewbacca wants to cry about.
Imperial Troopers can only stump nightsisters.
I was REALLY hoping you would show Imperial Troopers against Nightsisters and was so happy you did. Thank you! I was genuinely curious about how the Nightsisters Zombie rework would affect them. Turns out not by much, lol.
Also, why did you use Shoretrooper instead of Colonel Starck? I'm genuinely curious.
Everyone always forgets Death Troopers Terminate can prevent revive as well.
I have got an idea for what an ability on BB-9E could be: cleanse all debuffs off all Allies or (just First Order and Droids), but instead of getting rid of debuffs completely, he/she inflicts them on all the opponents characters and it can't be avoided or resisted, just like Yoda that can gain all the buffs from the opposite team. That would be a powerful special ability and proberly 5 turn cooldown, or more maybe? To go with the droid theme he/she could have Target Lock and maybe stun too on the basic attack. I think it would fit BB-9E to be a support cleanser, but also do the opposite of what BB-8 does and apply a lot of debuffs and thats something the First order doesn't have a lot of and needs! He/she could also have a heal of some sort, since they don't have a healer either, maybe it applies a or multiple buffs on the allies or (just First Order and Droids). And to top it all off, a AOE Special Attack that can apply shock, maybe stun too. BB-9E has the potential to become a very importen and very needed First Order Support and can have some synergi with droids as well. This is just ideas and speculations on what BB-9E's potential could be and I want to hear what the rest of the community thinks about this and their own suggestions!?
Thank you for doing this, this really needed clarification. However I've read that Talzin leads are utterly worthless with the new zombie. Asajj is supposed to be the best now. I'm hesitant to gear up zombie because I dont want a new strategy to pop up that requires a paper one
Bastilla.Jedi is bad against Night Sisters.
Night Sisters are bad against Bounty Hunter.
Bounty Hunter are bad against Bastilla.Jedi.
It is the circle of life my friend.
Have you done any testing on NS for P3 of the HSTR? We're doing a raid right now which we had been able to split HSTR in the guild to use some in P3 and some in P4. We're finding the new mechanics totally screwed up the P3 runs, but will actually make them even easier to beat P4.
Awesome video!!!
CG might as well make AT AT available in squad arena as well as a anti nightsister weapon
I've been refunded my Daka Zeta, is it really worth it with the new night sister zombie re work? I mostly use them for territory wars but it's still a fun team to play with
Ahnald love your videos! Do you think it's worth putting the zeta back on daka? Thanks, and keep up with the great videos
Great stuff.
What’s the outro song name Ahnaldt?
When nsz first came out I instantly got g9 and was annoyed when I found out she was better when weak. I'm glad they changed it.
I think a droids endless horde with a general grevious rework would be great!
So you mentioned all the abilities such as annihilate and execute. Does deathtroopers terminate do the same?
The tl;dr of this rework is "Give Darth Smirnoff a stroke while he's sitting on the shitter trying to figure out if he should upgrade this toon or not. He does not revive, but someone hears him crying and gets him medical attention just in time. Spread plague."
Thanks for doing this video Anhald! One question, what can we use instead of Range Trooper to beat NS now? MagmaTrooper?
Ok one more... my NS really suck now in STR because i only have G7 zombie. So would you do a summary video on the best teams to use in STR (T6 and heroic) by phase, as I would prefer to spend my resources on new toons instead of NS? We are just trying out T6 this week. Anyway, it would be a great Christmas gift 🎁 ! ;)
We need Zombie Trooper for Halloween! :)
Honestly, when i first saw this rework I was ... puzzled. But the more I looked at it, the less and less it looked like they'd really changed her all that much - except for the better.
They gave her a good mass heal, and handy revive ally mechanic, and otherwise she's just like she was in any way that's important. Best. Nerf. Ever.
I run Traya, Sion, DN, MT, and Zombie in arena, loving the Zombie rework, I call it the Addams Family ;)
There were a few Nightsister squads I couldn't kill before. There are a lot I cannot kill now.
It was a great update, but I struggle. Lol.
So does that mean if NSZ has -100% speed and unbreakable will in the sith raid, you can basically go on forever as she will never take a turn?
Hey ahnald, this is slightly off topic but it’s about jango fett. Have you spoken to anyone at CG about jango’s conflagration WAI or have any insight on it? I’ve tried looking but can’t find anything solid. Mainly I’m talking about it fulfilling his contract (but there are other situations that it doesn’t seem to be WAI). Hopefully you can give some solid insight. Love the videos!
One of the things i see from this rework is that the Zombie + Acolyte combo wont work anymore since she can only be revived a certain amount of times.
If you kill them with a DOT ability, for example, Darth Vader's second ability, they won't revive. You have to apply the debuf and then wait until it's her turn to atack, so de DOT does the damage ands kill's them
Grievous's rework should give him a bonus against night sisters, clones, and jedi
Is there a reason why when Zombie has 100% turn meter due to Asajj Lead but -100% speed she is not allowed to take a turn?
what's up with that 60-minute time limit there? It's normally 5 minutes isn't it?
NOOB question. My guild never had enough people to do territory wars so after 6 months I left and found a new guild last night. The territory war was set to start soon and when able to I joined. When the war started the event disappeared from the guild events and my guild says it's still in theirs. I was able to join a raid and received prizes.
Did it disappear because I was less than 1 day in the guild? Or is this just a fluke?
hey Ahnaldt! Not sure how much is this a glitch or not, but when fighting Nihilus in tier 1 I was left with Spirit and Zombie who was at -100% speed; then, my spirit started beating the microtransactions out of Nihilus, with him barely able to take a turn; I was able to get him from about 50% to 8%, at which point he was able to Annihlate my Spirit, leaving my zombie just standing there, not taking a turn XD
Can you please test it out and see what's what? Thanks in advance!
What teams can beat nightsisters with reworked zombie other than just imperial teams?
why did you stop updating the ranking tables on swgohub?
When night sister zombie is better that Grievous even though Grievous killed all of them in the clone wars. LOL
Do you have a recommended mod build for the trooper team?
No liquify tool today?
Please try danger zone with chewie but Biggs has guard, the idea seems like it should be good
But u never mentioned if zombie rework nerfs death storm... (not running hstr, working towards it and we are relying on deathstorm tp still be viable to make the final jump.)
There is a guy called Endal Bael, has a YT channel, he posted a couple vids of Traya vs NS in Arena and NS even autoed one battle!!!
P.S with the reworked Zombie
Sooo overpowered. Killing Daka three times while avoiding death and beeing frozen. Jeeesusss
But is the Old Daka Zeta worth the mats anymore?
Highly important question!! Who defeated Traya!?
Did you get holdo zeta’d yet?
What are the toons in that trooper team? I know most, is the leader Starck or Veers?
zVeers is the best lead from my experience
@@buzzzthrower555 Cool, thx!
I Using B squad, great to know that they can counter nightsister squad
so is talzin a better lead then asaaj?
Metaverse had God mods on the NS team because it was on a test account :)
Hey Ahnald, should I try to farm Phoenix squad to 7 stars for the next Thrawn event? I'm level 75 with all 5 star Phoenix, though Ezra is almost 6 star and everyone else is getting there slowly but surely. The only seven star I have at the moment is Mace Windu, (I did that in early game) which is probably my biggest regret in life.
By the way, great video as always!
Love the video
what i like about NS is yes you cn beat them with a lot of teams but if you dont attack carefully they will destroy you
hi ! I like your videos ! But can you make vidoe how to defeat Zeta team ?
Can you do a video on the best mods for Zombie please?
Fins leader ability works too..
Does this mean I can drop my GK of my NS arena team?
Can you make a video for any sort of squad that is meant to speed up Sion!? Lol.
Did 7 Star Chewie with G12 Boba and the rest G9 :D
The nerf is people have to gear nsz up now
Imperial troopers with Shoretrooper... what about stormtrooper? No heal = plague having way more effect initially anyway
I like it i mean i havent invested Munch in nightsisters but i like the rework
Still waiting on Jar Jar, Fode + Beed and my main man Salacious Crumb.
Can someone tell me what does those numbers means at the beginning of the fight?
It’s the speed of the characters
Oh. OK. Thank you
Why dont you use the Colonel instead of Snow Trooper
Snow trooper has big damage
Yeah Snowtrooper has a ton of AoE damage. He’s preferred when fighting Nightsisters. He spams them over and over again
But cant Colonel give X2 plus has AOE
@@Real_Ship_Engineer Snow trooper aoe is more damage
almost need speed godmods for troopers to take down nightsisters now.
Not really my g11 troopers are barely at 60-70+ speed and they still auto g12 100+ speed NS
Never had a problem with night sisters. Use Darth, Palp, Tarkin, Boba and Thrawn - fracture zombie.. easy.
Love it
Me too
I don't know I mean I LOVE nightsisters and I wish it would make them more viable but you can see they still get wiped out easily by BH, Troopers, Sith...
Can you show Sith raid in your next video?
I unlocked original trilogy Chewbacca with gear 4 cad bane, gear 7 ig 88, gear 8 greedo, gear 9 boba fett and dengar with decent potency modes. Guys it is beatable
Where's the fucking monthly tournament, KRU must be redeemed
new rebel team beats traya, traya beats nightsisters, nightsisters beat new rebel team. Rock Paper Scissors baby
Droids next EA