Codling Moth-Free Apples How To: No Spray, Organic Protection

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2021
  • There are many organic strategies to combat codling moths: produce resistant varieties, use moth traps made with molasses, wrap the trunk in cardboard traps, employ poultry, or bag the apples. This year, I am using a combination of the last four. Here is how I am using newer tougher bags in place of the nylon pantyhose I have used in the past in order to produce an apple crop free of coddling moths.
    Time input: one hour to bag about 70 apples.
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ความคิดเห็น • 30

  • @tara281
    @tara281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can you please link the bags? Thank you

  • @overlandvegan8224
    @overlandvegan8224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, learning permaculture from your YT and others also.
    In my learning I learned from Stephan of Miracle Farms orchards to use a cleaned pint of oil and a few holes in them filled with a mixture of molasses and beer.
    That mixture attracts moths an they get caught in the pint instead of bearing their eggs in the fruits.
    Hope it’ll help you.

  • @harriettejensen479
    @harriettejensen479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched the video with interest. Last year I bought bags to protect my grapes from birds and squirrels, of which I have a lot. Worked like a charm, but it was a real fussy, time-consuming job, as I have 3 large grapevines. I also have 4 apple trees, only one of which has begun to bear. I didn't think I would have a codling mother problem (really, naive, I know), and I lost every one of the 2 dozen apples from my first crop. I will use the same bags I used last year on the grapes. Unfortunately, they did not come with ties, so rather than try to secure them by twisting them or buying new bags, I will take the time to create ties for my existing bags. I was going to spray with BT or Neem this year, but now I won't have to. Thanks! BTW, it is my Spitzenberg apple I am bagging. My other apples are grown-from-Granny Smith-seed and are not yet ready to bear. I do want to see what kind of apples they will make before I decide whether or not to begin using them for rootstock.

    • @jayt3972
      @jayt3972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get an outdoor bug zapper. I have a large apple tree that produces probably 500-800 apples a year. First year I tried sprays still got 95% with worms. Next year i tried the zapper after moths were coming already, only 5% had worms. This year i can see significantly less adult moth flying around.

  • @tara281
    @tara281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting! I want the bags for my cherries :) I manage my coddling moth by thinning the apples that have the mark on them, so I dont thin until they are almost full size. Then I go over my tree once a week and pick all the coddling moth apples and put them in the city garbage. It’s my 4th year using this method, and last year I had almost no moth activity. It seems to stop the life cycle by not allowing apples to fall and hatch. It’s time consuming, about 10 min a week for 2 months.

    • @cek7940
      @cek7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Tara, I'm new to my home (2yrs) and have inherited an unknown variety apple tree, my local deer eat the fallen apples on this tree that struggles with coddling moth. I'm new to permaculture gardening and a lot of the concepts. I liked what you had to say but wondered if there's a way to keep the apples for the deer. I could wheelbarrow them up and move them to the back of the property or is it essential to remove to rid the moth? Thank you very much blessings to you and your garden, Angela

    • @tara281
      @tara281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cek7940 you have to remove them from your property in my experience. They will cocoon in the ground or any nearby tree, then hatch and fly back to the nearest apple/quince/pear tree.

    • @ParkrosePermaculture
      @ParkrosePermaculture  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am contemplating getting some big netting for my bush cherries. I have not yet had worms in them but all my neighbors trees do and I know they are endemic here

  • @aishac919
    @aishac919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could you share the link to the specialty bags pls? I was about to order another brand of heavy duty pantyhose bags (but they don’t have twist ties). Would love to get the version you have

  • @gunning6407
    @gunning6407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm curious if anyone's had luck using Surround. Glad to hear how well the chickens work in the back.

  • @artb1451
    @artb1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have you tried mollases traps for clothing moth?

    • @DValentine-lp3yr
      @DValentine-lp3yr ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to know that too.

    • @user-gp3fr6xs3x
      @user-gp3fr6xs3x หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DValentine-lp3yr Molasses traps are a good indicator for when the moths arrive but not a preventative.

  • @kathrynepaul
    @kathrynepaul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed your video. I have been bagging my apples for at least 5 years, with success but a few problems. Here in Southern Indiana it can be hot and humid. My apples get no worm damage and the squirrels give up after a few attempts when they see how hard it is to get the bags off. But the fruit gets a sooty black surface that can be scrubbed off and does not hurt the eating. Am I keeping the bags on too long? Also my bags are organza and maybe do not give enough air circulation. Could you give me a better description of what bags you use? By the way they are fantastic for and I get enough berries for 2 gallons of syrup off one bush. I leave a few clusters for the birds! Thank you.

  • @ShelbyM.-lt8fz
    @ShelbyM.-lt8fz หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really hope this works for you. I did this one year with my peaches and the next day they were all gone. A chipmunk or squirrel carried the fruit away in the bags. Three years later, I still have never found the bags.

  • @lwjenson
    @lwjenson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any chance you could give an update on if these worked?

  • @TheBeesinthetrees
    @TheBeesinthetrees 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Angela, do you have a pollinating partner for your Hudson’s? Which variety? And is it in your backyard?

  • @adriennesmith.artist
    @adriennesmith.artist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ohhhh so they aren’t just organza bags? I tried organza in my garden last year and the sun was really hard on them.

    • @ParkrosePermaculture
      @ParkrosePermaculture  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are tough woven plastic. Supposed to be UV resistant?

  • @dianepuskas6362
    @dianepuskas6362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Angela and friends, do you think these bags are a good defense against squirrels? Anyone have advice to protect against squirrels from taking all your fruit? Thanks and have a great day!

    • @KAO3265
      @KAO3265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trap them. Bags didn’t work against squirrels for me. ☹️

    • @gunning6407
      @gunning6407 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KAO3265 Slow-release high-N fertilizer?

  • @julie-annepineau4022
    @julie-annepineau4022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have heard earwigs eat coddling moth larvae. Do you know if that's true?

    • @ParkrosePermaculture
      @ParkrosePermaculture  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They do if they are on the ground or the trunk of the tree. Once the Apple is infected it is too late. But they are a predator of coddling moths. I actually don’t have many at all in my yard…I wonder if the chickens reduce the overall population?

    • @ParkrosePermaculture
      @ParkrosePermaculture  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I always leave the spiders around my apples for that reason though. Spiders do a good job of coddling moth larvae predation.

  • @zoeward4555
    @zoeward4555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did this work out?

    • @ParkrosePermaculture
      @ParkrosePermaculture  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did a video later in the season. It worked out wonderfully. The apples were pristine however, both that first year and last year, I had some problems with birds and squirrels damaging some of the bags. If you have a small orchard and the time, I think it’s worth it.

  • @DValentine-lp3yr
    @DValentine-lp3yr ปีที่แล้ว

    Method begins about 6 minutes in.

  • @billking6187
    @billking6187 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy shorten it up get to the point

    • @ParkrosePermaculture
      @ParkrosePermaculture  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't ask for your opinion, and I won't be changing the way I make my videos based on your unsolicited opinion, babe.