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I agree with you mate, their attitude bought it on themselves. When I heard they were employing a self-styled shaman who sells crystals she's blessed for hundreds of dollars to desperate people in an executive role for >120K a year (not joking), I thought to myself "I'd be plenty pissed if I had donated."
Stopped my donos to Mozilla for similar reasons. Huge CEO paycheck, dubious spending... and I'm out. I'm okay with the CEO making more, but not egregious amounts, never mind bad call after bad call for users and workers alike. :/
@@lx2222x i beg to differ. went from gnome to kde back in july, gnome does look more appealing, but functionally, it is years behind kde or even other desktops.
Huh, based on what people said, I thought GNOME as a whole is going well. I was taken off guard by this- as you said, KDE was doing so well they had to overspend to maintain non-profit status so I thought GNOME is doing better than THAT. Asahi make me go, "Well, Steam Deck ARM is probably still far away..." to, "Oh wow, it's already going THIS far on M1 Mac with all its likely PITA stuff to work with?" Okay, now I think Steam Deck ARM, or whatever it is, could be ready next year. What a bunch of surprises.
I really don't think its coming next year, they've said its gonna be a bit. I don't think we'll see an arm steam deck until at least a year after we see arm gaming laptops come out. Apple silicon is in its own world.
If Gnome problems took you off guard, watch "He who shall not be named" (Lunduke), he predicted this like a year ago when Gnome hired a Shaman as Executive Director.
Nautilus continues to regain the functions they dropped years ago. Eventually it will be indistinguishable from Nemo - which was forked when Nautilus dropped those functions. It keeps developers employed , I suppose
@@ade5324 For example, a PDF reader that can display everything that a PDF file may contain according to the standard, such as multimedia or 3D models. Or a search for local SMB3 network shares that also finds them. Or an automatic mounting of SMB network shares, if available in the local network, at system startup in such a way that they can be used with any program.
I have no plans to donate to Gnome. Why? Red Hat, Fedora, Oracle, and Canonical all use Gnome as their flagship desktop, and they are all very financially successful. If Gnome is worth saving, then those wealthy organizations can step up and do so. If not, then those wealthy organizations can switch over to KDE or something else.
I think a move to KDE will happen if the GNOME team doesn’t change their attitude soon. GNOME has been digging its own grave for the past decade, and IBM (along with other corporations) definitely won’t bail them out. They’ll see it’s simply cheaper to switch to KDE/Qt, whether people like it or not.
@@AlexanderAhjolinnathat's exactly how I feel. And I think it will only get worse in time when more and more people switch over from Windows. I think a majority would want a desktop that is familiar.
@@Martan404 Like me. I never got warm with Gnome. Feels to me like "main thing is that everything is DIFFERENT than on Windows". Having to live with both (Win + Linux), KDE is reasonably close.
Because… because…. Ahhh!!!! No, lol, actually, I got it because I wanted to have the hardware and thought that I would either get used to the macOS operating system or I could just install some distro of Linux. I didn’t do enough research to realize that just because it was ARM didn’t mean I could run any ARM distro. It was my mistake. The hardware is amazing, though - and that part I don’t regret. It’s just Apple that makes everything a pain to use for no reason. Once we get a distro that works, I’m installing and never looking back.
@@morningsage5673I use asahi right now, it already works great for everything except gaming really assuming you have an M1 then the only real gap in functionality is that it lacks display output, however the asahi Reddit has already found a work-around (displaylink). you also don't particularly have to use asahi arch or fedora remix like it's made out to be, I use nixOS
@@morningsage5673 what do you mean by daily-drivable? to many, many people already is, unless you need Thunderbolt or touchID (biggest couple of drawbacks i can think of), give it a try, it a lot more polished than other linux experiences on x86
Sad to see Gnome having troubles but as someone who disliked their smartphone-ish design, single-tasking oriented UI they've made since 3, I'm happy to see KDE doing well.
The one area in linux that is confusing & overwhelming for many people (including me), especially because of all the different terminologies is of graphic drivers & other related technologies. Like openGL, NVK, Vulkan, DXVK, Nova, Nouveau, Zink, GSP, VKD3D, etc. And also how do they work with Wine & Proton. It would be really nice if you'd make a separate video which explains all of these terms for the geeks like us.
Graphics APIs: OpenGL(ES)/Vulkan/Metal/Direct3D (DirectX). Standardized interfaces for drawing graphics, usually consisting of a set of C function and type specifications. Each vendor usually provides their own implementation of some of these as dynamic libraries which an application loads at runtime. The implementation then converts the function calls to commands to send to the respective kernel driver. These implementations are often called "user space drivers". There are also 3rd party implementations. Kernel drivers: Nouveau (3rd party open source Nvidia driver)/Nvidia proprietary/Nvidia open/Intel i915/amdgpu/radeon. These sit in the DRM (Direct Rendering Manager) subsystem of the Linux kernel and receive commands from the graphics APIs (as well as video decode/encode and compute APIs) via the ioctl system call and in turn issue commands to the actual hardware to fulfill the requests. 3rd party graphics API implementations: Asahi (Apple M1 OpenGL)/Honeykrisp (Apple M1 Vulkan)/NVK (Nvidia Vulkan)/RADV (AMD Vulkan)/etc. Open source graphics API implementations targeting various kernel drivers. Graphics translation layers: DXVK (Direct3D8-11 to Vulkan)/vkd3d (Direct3D12 to Vulkan)/Zink (OpenGL to Vulkan)/etc. 3rd party graphics API implementations which translate calls from one API to another (usually to Vulkan as this is "lower level" and more modern) instead of talking to the kernel driver. This achieves vendor-agnosticism as long as there is an implementation of the "target API" which talks to the kernel driver (modern graphics cards usually support Vulkan - looking at you Apple). DXVK for example allows you to play Direct3D games on Linux, no matter if you have an Nvidia, AMD or Intel card, by translating to Vulkan calls which are then handled by the vendor-specific drivers. Honorable mention: the Mesa3D project which maintains various user-space drivers (like NVK, Zink, Asahi, RADV, etc). Wine/Proton is at its core a Windows executable loader, dynamic library loader and Windows system call implementation that translates to Linux system calls. When used to run Direct3D games with DXVK, Wine/Proton is just pointed to the DXVK .dll files which will then be loaded when the application tries to load Direct3D. These then call the normal Linux Vulkan driver to actually draw the graphics. Proton is as far as I understand just a fork of Wine with gaming-focused patches which comes packaged with DXVK and vkd3d.
Thank you Nick. Years of being on the linux side of things, and you help me be a bit lazy and focus on my computing without having to worry about directly searching for stuff apart of linux news.
Honestly im surprised gnome is still together as most people agree they are awful to work with and dont listen to people in general and do things their own way
Agreed, they've been digging their own grave for the past decade. If they keep this up and don’t change their attitude, IBM won’t bail them out-it'll simply be cheaper to move to KDE/Qt ( whether you like it or not)
@@watynecc3309that’s a bit unfair considering gnome foundation literally contributes the most to gtk and libadwaita which are the leading ui toolkits across all desktop environments and contribute to much lower level standards across all desktop linux distributions like their nice polkit auth engine that make things for everyone easier and more polished.
I suspect nvidia is trying to get got Linux support for the next RHEL release, where they plan on dropping X11. They're doing all this for the AI servers
@@zocker1600 Just because it's a "server", doesn't mean there is no multi-million business application that requires display servers, only the future would tell us why Nvidia is now investing in this.
@@themedleb I can tell you why Nvidia is doing this. WSLg, which allows you to run Linux GUI applications on Windows, is using Wayland on the Linux side to pass it through to DWM. > doesn't mean there is no multi-million business application that requires display servers oh yeah there def are, they run either on Windows or on WSL 2 "AI servers" as originally stated are completely headless though, the GPUs used for AI training do not even have a display output.
Mapping the drawing tablet area to fit the screen was not an issue, the changes were made to basically allow a smaller segment of the tablet to be mapped to the full screen. In practice it mostly means the ability to change your drawing tablet's sensitivity.
I mean ... Gnome has been ignoring user feedback for literal years. Of course they have money issues. You can't consistently keep screwing over your base, and then still expect them to donate. But yeah, that's exactly what the Gnome project expects. They always think they're right, and everyone else is wrong. They're literally impossible to work with. That being said, most open source project probably have money issues.
Tech changes for the better or worst, I use Gnome 41 but do research future releases for future upgrades, I have to have stablility, when I do upgrade its all based on tech that just works. I move into new features that are proven to work. Not every Gnome release is good but when they do put it together its golden.
I just know every time I've attempted to use it I've been so frustrated by all the things I consider essentials being missing that I've never kept it on an bare metal install.
They received 1.000.000$ to develop some simple features, and the only thing they achieved was... implementing accent colors? And now they are running out of money LMAO
@@stancooper5436 Clarity here - I haven't gotten deep into the vid - is she getting paid $120k by the GNOME Foundation, or as a shaman, because if you can make that kind of money as a shaman, I need to start wrapping sage bundles
Never forget no outlet or vlog talked about this except for one guy who got unpersoned for this story and being a right winger, but yeah gnome hired a self defined professional shaman (as in they offered shamanic sessions and courses for cash lmao) and put her as HEAD OF FUNDING. Incredible work. Also she left after 9 months, so that must have worked out great.
As a newcomer I do really appriate your work aswell, it helped me to take the first steps on the road becoming a permanent Linux user for almost a year ago (without dualboot). I listened these informations with mixed feelings. In 2003, my very first experience with Linux happened to be with a Gnome desktop (the name I forgot, but I remembered it's footpring icon). Of course as a teenager I had no choice when my parents decided installing XP over that Linux on my mother's laptop. When I replaced win11 in January 2024, I instantly searched it. Though nowadays Gnome does not match with my taste, but I would feel really sad, if they would disappear.
Love you Nick, thanks for the news every week. I'm not surprised about GNOME, but I guess I'm still disappointed. As a KDE Plasma user I want strong competition so both dominant DEs keep becoming better and better. On the other hand, a big organization ignoring its community many times over and lacking transparency for years eventually has to touch grass lol. I hope they revamp the organization to make it way more transparent and community led, although I doubt it will happen.
@@stancooper5436 Too bad they only had a part time shaman, a full bloodied one would have probably found a Leprechaun within the first week of being CEO
"leopard ate my face" applies hard here for gnome. Their devs talk to their users like they're peasants. They can now spend their "philosophy" that they throw at everyone's face when asked for features.
Wokeism destroys everything. Gnome had a code of conduct that explicitly stated that it protects everyone except white males. Maybe they changed it now, I don't know. Haven't bothered to check.
Good to see nvidia wayland support improving. I actually still use the onboard Intel GPU on my main system that runs KDE/Wayland and use offload to run games on my 3080 Ti, and that works a lot better than trying to get the nvidia GPU to handle the desktop itself. Plus I get nice things like fully working vaapi with no hacks and the nvidia GPU's VRAM is totally empty when no games are running, which lets me use larger models when I run LLMs via CUDA.
unfortunately wayland broke my workflow recently, With the graphic tablet's pen I can't drag layers up or down, the layer I'm moving just keep stuck on the cursor until I do a click with the mouse, that doesn't happen when I login with an x11 session (That happened on KDE and Gnome) but that kind of stuff just gets fixed in a week or so
With the update to Kubuntu 24.10 I've been surprised how good wayland got with my nvidia card. 23.04: system crashed, couldn't fix, needed to reinstall the whole system 23.10: all worked but slow. Games had big performance issues 24.04: wayland didn't even start until nvidia 550 was out. Didn't work well after that now: everything works except some older x-only apps. Couldn't find any big issues
Happy to hear about progress surrounding NVK and Zink. I do really want to use them daily, but NVIDIA is just more powerful, performant, etc. Can also do ray tracing and the like. Hopefully NVK gets to a point where I can switch and not feel like it's a big downgrade, making my 3060 Ti perform worse than a 1050 Ti.
What is the worst part of GNOME’s money management issues, it is the most advanced desktop environment for 2-in-1 laptop/tablet computers. KDE has a lot of issues with non-Qt apps working correctly with touchscreens, but I can, for the most part, just run GNOME and everything just works.
@@cameronbosch1213 I shouldn't need to switch modes (even Windows doesn't require this!), and I have used Plasma on my cellphone and noticed that I couldn't use menus on GTK apps, so it still wasn't working as expected. If that is fixed, I would try it out again.
well if gnome team keeps up with their attitude and wont change like past decade they will loose more money and soon there wont Gnome/GTK left, and I highly doubt IBM or other corp has much interest in bailing out Gnome/Gtk after everything when its much cheaper to move to KDE/Qt (like it or not)
@jfftck On Wayland, this can be set to automatic. (This cannot be done on XOrg unfortunately, where tablet mode must be set manually.) Also, have you watched TechHut's video on tablet mode with Ubuntu (with GNOME) vs some other KDE distro (I think it was Fedora KDE but I'm not 100% sure)? GNOME didn't have a virtual keyboard, whereas KDE Plasma did.
@@AlexanderAhjolinna Exactly. COSMIC is shaping up to be a Rust version of GNOME that's actually done well and done with some community feedback in mind. And it's not even beta quality yet! I wouldn't be shocked if GNOME eventually has another GNOME 3 or KDE 4 moment soon.
After trying probably the top 30 distros on distrowatch and all major DEs I found myself going back to Mint with cinnamon . The only distro that actually makes sense for me and I am using Linux for 2-3 years by now
I can't decide between Mint with Cinnamon or Debian with KDE Plasma, ran Mint for a year, currently on Debian with KDE for a few months now, I find both amazing in each own way, Cinnamon has some things that like over Plasma and same other way around, both DEs are pretty amazing though, also ran Manjaro for a while, but for me it broke with just regular updates like once a month, so went over to something that doesn't update as much(honestly weekly 1GB updates annoy the hell out of me)
The fact that nVidia gives so much attention to Linux lately... gives me much hope. I really don't understand why some video game developers are so keen on outing Linux as a platform. They should really reconsider their options, especially now that the gaming industry is going through some rough times.
@TurntableTV Both points are so true. Regarding Nvidia, I'll bet it has to do with the A.I. bubble. I just wish they'd allow the GTX 9 & 10 series to have proper reclocking with Nouveau. As for gaming on Linux, I legitimately don't get it. Supporting Linux with EAC or BattleEye is literally a check box away from allowing Proton. (I'm not talking about EA's broken anti-cheat even on Windows with all of the BSODs when closing F1 24. They just scream incompetence.) After all, most cheaters are on Windows anyway, which is an OS that very few people know how it works from the inside out because nobody other than internal Microsoft employees know how it works. Besides, how effective are these client-side anti-cheats anyway compared to server-side anti-cheats!? Finally, Epic, there are more Steam users on Linux than macOS; stop making excuses and start either telling the truth why you don't enable the anti-cheat for your games or just enable it!
You should watch some video game studio / company documentaries. Game developers generally have ABSOLUTELY ZERO IDEA / EXPERIENCE how Linux works. In fact many games don't even run too well on Windows either, they are made for consoles first, and ported to PC later...
Donating to foundations is a waste of money on useless things. People should donate directly to developers. Foundations have corporate sponsors to take care of them.
Hey Nick, I've been watching your videos and you had a big rol on my switch to linux full time. I want your advice tho. I want to buy a linux powered laptop for davinci resolve. What specs should I look for? Thank you.
Manjaro KDE just got Plasma 6.2. With kernel 6.11, I think Manjaro is always cutting edge. Wayland work fine on AMD, IBM but I can't get it to work with my older Nvidia Gt1030 card.
Installed Plasma 6.2 a few days ago and the release is fine. No regressions that I could notice. In fact, previous update 6.1.5 came with a plenty of bugs and those usually continue in 6.2 (although the severity was lowered, so 6.2 improved things a bit).
I did try playing on Steam with Asahi the other day and it's mixed results. Some games booted up with no issues, some with issues and some not at all along with frequent crashes But that being said it is very cool that it works at all and it can only get better from here
Yes, this is why I bought one. It’s an M1 MacBook I bought basically when silicon was announced. I absolutely love the hardware and I naively thought I’d be able to either get used to macOS or install Linux. Neither are true. But asahi is getting close.
The fact that in 2024 some compositors ship OpenGL drivers for more than a fallback is embarrassing. Nvidia is completely right about Vulkan being the ideal standard. Speaking of Nvidia, regardless of their past on Linux, this move should be praised and encouraged, otherwise there is no point
was planning on sending some money to GNOME foundation and now it looks like it is more important than ever. love using GNOME so i should really give something back
So shaman Holly Million - that supposedly did a great job as GNOME foundation executive, to raise donations - left, and she wasn't fired, no no, she left to "invest in herself" - and now we find that GNOME is deep in the hole and can't continue planned operations due to lower than expected donations. But that wasn't because the previous executive director - it's just the business environment. Ahmmm, yes, I see how it is.
I've actually had some real-life experience with shamans. They are airheads, horrible with money / responsibility, and will do / peddle / scam whatever they can to get some money to offset their spending habits. They have no SHAME. Get it? My guess is that this chick had some connections (or sucked someone's dick) at GNOME to get money quick and then get out. Not that different from all the fake spiritual gurus etc. that's going on in California / Bay Area tech world. She's probably on to her next target to fund whatever stupid crap she's peddling next.
@@IMBREISGAU I don't know, but they fired half of their paid work force and according to the press release are going to seriously limit their conference expenditure. Sounds pretty deep to me.
Prime example why devs should actually listen to users. No way I’ll ever support such disaster cluster f what Gnome has evolved. I’d much rather support any other UI. Seriously, Gnome can really blame just themselves.
well its disable because of driver bug, check KDE bug id=488941 it can be enabled manually with a Environment Variable: "KWIN_DRM_ALLOW_NVIDIA_COLORSPACE"
Between hiring a shaman as Executive Director and firing key contributors in secrecy, the executive part of GNOME seems like a dumpster fire, unlike KDE Foundation that has a rock-steady funding stream and a "user-first" executive policy. I am a GNOME user and love the project itself, but the foundation part does not seem very focused and does not inspire confidence.
@@altrogeruvah literally WHAT do her beliefs have to do with her job. would you call her out if she was muslim or christian? but i guess it's acceptable if she doesn't believe in the popular religions
@@binglebongusdongus Let me rephrase that: a person who has a PhD in shamanology is hired for an executive position whose element is completely foreign to this person. I'm not questioning this person for being completely out of their depth, I am questioning GNOME's initial thought process for hiring said person. I don't know why you had to turn this into a pearl-clutcher, but it's very annoying.
I'm sure the chief officer positions got their salaries and bonuses absolutely severed since they're doing so bad they're ending with positions as important as creative and communitive director and no longer investing into coordinating the community and raising funds, right? Right?.......
Putting aside internal organization/managements issues for a moment...it is really bad if gnome is not financially sound...when you have major linux distributions using gnome as the default desktop environment - whether that be Ubuntu, Fedora, PopOS, etc...this could lead to larger problems down the road. You really don't want to see wack-a-mole desktop breaking bugs due to staffing/funding shortages...there are also corporate entities that benefit at least indirectly from gnome-based software/desktop environments..I'm surprised more funding isn't coming from them to maintain the project.
I didn’t try Wayland with 560, but with 550 wasn’t very good at all. At least in 24.04. Cyberpunk was flickering like a mofo. Considering how well is working for me with X11 in 24.04 right now. I gotta be honest, I feel skittish about upgrading anything. LOL. 😂
555 actually fixed that issue. I tried 550 and god damn I felt like I was gonna get a seizure it was that bad. Switching to 555 made the problem instantly go away. I do understand your hesitancy to upgrade anything though, but I do recommend giving it another try! Good luck!
@zeckma Plasma 5.27.0 until 5.27.6 was exactly that, a seizure warning that eventually locked up the desktop on Nvidia. Now it's better than XOrg ever was, because XOrg doesn't play well with multi monitors with different scaling factors and/or refresh rates.
@@zeckma I finally switched. Today I discovered VRR wasn’t working anymore in x11, for some reason. So I decided to give it another go. It works. I’m using 560.
KDE with Wayland has some bugs for me, but I am going to continue using it over GNOME because the old boomer anger I get from GNOME devs whenever I bring up any issue is a turn off.
Gnome is kinda crap. Their financial struggles are no surprise... Whats the point of a DE that doesn't support the most basic functionality without plugins that break every update...
they've been digging their own grave for the past decade, and IBM won’t bail them out that is for sure, they will see that it'll simply be cheaper to move to KDE/Qt ( whether people like it or not)
@@AlexanderAhjolinna Which is really sad, because IMO, GNOME has by far the best UI design in the Linux ecosystem. I'd switch to Cosmic before I used KDE. It's just hideous. Half the reason I even moved to Linux is because of how much I hate the Windows design system, and KDE is just as bad, and in some cases even worse.
I have a question: So I want to switch from Windows to Linux, because of RAM usage, end of support for Windows 10, and Windows 11 not being supported. However, I'm stuck with one thing. I can't really choose between Plasma and GNOME. GNOME has a really good UI, but lacks basic features and needs extensions. Plasma is super customizable, but the UI looks a bit ugly to me... Which one do you think it's better?
A beautiful thing about Linux is you can try with them both and choose the one you end up preferring. But there are loads of other options as well as these two so just experiment
GNOME to me is the only "comfortable" desktop environment. All others are either too complicated or too non functional. very sad to see them struggling
gnome taking the worst decisions ever and removing *basic* features that every DE has and features that were already there in gnome, decisions that drive users away and lessen the reputation of gnome, and now they have money problems? it doesen't surprise me at all lol
I am running Ubuntu 22.04.05 on one of my machines, the other 3 are still running MINT! I abandoned Gnome after release 2, v3 and later are HORRIBLE performers, the UI with the dock isn't horrible, if it would work like MAC! GNOME needs a new brain, its SO SLOW compared to MATE on Ubuntu! And YES, SNAP packages are a crap shoot to start on Gnome, Always start FAST on MATE! Not ready yet to upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04. Still got LTS support on what I have for a while yet. Oh Yeah, have to make another comment about gnome, it still reminds me so much of the dreaded windoz 8 for random placement of icons. But not quite as nasty!
Rolling out a dependency on Vulkan actually has a *very* large downside. By doing so, you will be restricting the use of older computers (laptops in particular), that would run fine otherwise, but that do not support Vulkan. It's a little disappointing because Windows actually handles this better, by using DirectX and whatnot.
Gnome's Creative Director was very inexperienced. They had 6 years of graphic design in a commercial environment. That is barely a senior designer in a London studio. The skills to be a CD are so much more, that take at least 12-15 years to grasp. Maybe they'll employ a CD who can set a vision for Gnome and work with the community to impliment it.
Apple is too busy trying to force their proprietary technology and that is why they are so far behind, because they don’t want to give the users freedom to the hardware they think they purchased. It’s Apple’s goal to continually direct consumers into their services and they don’t want open standards to allow software to be transportable between platforms as it’s not going to encourage developers to make Apple exclusive apps.
One of the reason Gnome is the default on most distro, especially the one leaning towards business use is legal issues. Various countries have strict laws on accessibility options and, as i understand it, only Gnome delivers on these with KDE as a possible contender. I believe - do not quote me on this - the other DE's have nothing like. As such, business and Govt organisations CANNOT take Linux unless it is Gnome. So, if Cosmic is to take the crown from Gnome it has to replicate ALL the Gnome accessibility features. I say that as a KDE fan.
@@jedipadawan7023Actually, COSMIC is also backed by a company, that being System76. Nothing is stopping anybody from adapting Orca (the screen reader for GNOME) to work with Iced or Qt apps; it's GPL after all!
@@jedipadawan7023 To the best of my knowledge, one of the main reasons gnome became more popular than KDE is because of the licensing issues around Qt in the 90s/early 2000s. And then Ubuntu chose gnome as their default back in 2004 (instead of offering DE options at install, as was standard with Redhat/SuSE/Debian/etc. back in the day) which just cemented their place as the de facto standard desktop for Linux distributions.
cosmic will be here much sooner i believe. Writing a base of a DE takes a long time and that is here now, so they just need to add additional features. I still like the aesthetics of gnome, but the new code base with cosmic and tiling support will make me switch.
the negativity and hate on GNOME here in the comments is saddening... you may not like GNOME desktop and thats ok, but to trash it and wish that it bankrupts for just doing something different for us users with different preference of a desktop is just toxic. i actually use GNOME and love what direction GNOME is heading, but would never even thought of trashing KDE Plasma for looking "bloated" or something when i know that that is just a different vision of the desktop. this is really the worst that the linux "community" has to offer and it sucks. :(
People are quick to forget and shortsighted. For the longest time, only GNOME devs were working on Wayland at all. They did most of the ground work. KDE had two very rocky transition periods with Plasma 4 and 5, which both took years to stabilize. It seems they finally learned a lesson or two with Plasma 6, though there were still quite a few problems. A lot of distros, either directly or indirectly, rely on GNOME. I appreciate that people prefer other DEs, in particular ones that offer a more traditional desktop paradigm, but it would be _really_ bad for desktop Linux if the GNOME goes bankrupt.
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@@TheLinuxEXP hell no
You bet I ain't donating for an organization that NEVER listens to feedback. While kde is doing great and actively improving on stuff that matters...
I agree with you mate, their attitude bought it on themselves. When I heard they were employing a self-styled shaman who sells crystals she's blessed for hundreds of dollars to desperate people in an executive role for >120K a year (not joking), I thought to myself "I'd be plenty pissed if I had donated."
Stopped my donos to Mozilla for similar reasons. Huge CEO paycheck, dubious spending... and I'm out. I'm okay with the CEO making more, but not egregious amounts, never mind bad call after bad call for users and workers alike. :/
Gnome overall still better than KDE
@@lx2222x i beg to differ. went from gnome to kde back in july, gnome does look more appealing, but functionally, it is years behind kde or even other desktops.
@@Slugbunny I love Firefox but I'm 100% with you, Mozilla needs to touch grass.
Huh, based on what people said, I thought GNOME as a whole is going well. I was taken off guard by this- as you said, KDE was doing so well they had to overspend to maintain non-profit status so I thought GNOME is doing better than THAT.
Asahi make me go, "Well, Steam Deck ARM is probably still far away..." to, "Oh wow, it's already going THIS far on M1 Mac with all its likely PITA stuff to work with?" Okay, now I think Steam Deck ARM, or whatever it is, could be ready next year.
What a bunch of surprises.
I really don't think its coming next year, they've said its gonna be a bit. I don't think we'll see an arm steam deck until at least a year after we see arm gaming laptops come out. Apple silicon is in its own world.
Why would you assume GNOME is doing better than KDE?
If Gnome problems took you off guard, watch "He who shall not be named" (Lunduke), he predicted this like a year ago when Gnome hired a Shaman as Executive Director.
@@fcolecumberri lunduke, that piece of garbage?
@@binglebongusdongus I wouldn't call him "garbage", that says more about you than about him.
Nautilus continues to regain the functions they dropped years ago.
Eventually it will be indistinguishable from Nemo - which was forked when Nautilus dropped those functions.
It keeps developers employed , I suppose
Yeah... Nautilus is way too funny. They keep adding back features 😆
It's almost like they are admitting Gnome 3 was a mistake!
I would donate to GNOME if GNOME would implement the features I need for my work.😁
what kind of features?
Server side decorations!
@@ade5324 For example, a PDF reader that can display everything that a PDF file may contain according to the standard, such as multimedia or 3D models. Or a search for local SMB3 network shares that also finds them. Or an automatic mounting of SMB network shares, if available in the local network, at system startup in such a way that they can be used with any program.
The first thing I'd like to see would be a design language that doesn't look like a Fisher Price toy.
@@ade5324 A proper system tray replacement, server-side decorations, global menu, fractional scaling, VRR, HDR, desktop icons, configurable sound volume steps, etc
I have no plans to donate to Gnome. Why? Red Hat, Fedora, Oracle, and Canonical all use Gnome as their flagship desktop, and they are all very financially successful. If Gnome is worth saving, then those wealthy organizations can step up and do so. If not, then those wealthy organizations can switch over to KDE or something else.
I think a move to KDE will happen if the GNOME team doesn’t change their attitude soon. GNOME has been digging its own grave for the past decade, and IBM (along with other corporations) definitely won’t bail them out. They’ll see it’s simply cheaper to switch to KDE/Qt, whether people like it or not.
@@AlexanderAhjolinnathat's exactly how I feel. And I think it will only get worse in time when more and more people switch over from Windows. I think a majority would want a desktop that is familiar.
@@Martan404 Like me. I never got warm with Gnome. Feels to me like "main thing is that everything is DIFFERENT than on Windows". Having to live with both (Win + Linux), KDE is reasonably close.
As somebody with who only has a MacBook, I absolutely cannot wait for Asahi to be useable for daily driving. It’s getting so close!
why do you want to suffer? lol
Because… because…. Ahhh!!!!
No, lol, actually, I got it because I wanted to have the hardware and thought that I would either get used to the macOS operating system or I could just install some distro of Linux. I didn’t do enough research to realize that just because it was ARM didn’t mean I could run any ARM distro. It was my mistake. The hardware is amazing, though - and that part I don’t regret. It’s just Apple that makes everything a pain to use for no reason. Once we get a distro that works, I’m installing and never looking back.
@@morningsage5673I use asahi right now, it already works great for everything except gaming really
assuming you have an M1 then the only real gap in functionality is that it lacks display output, however the asahi Reddit has already found a work-around (displaylink).
you also don't particularly have to use asahi arch or fedora remix like it's made out to be, I use nixOS
@@morningsage5673 what do you mean by daily-drivable? to many, many people already is, unless you need Thunderbolt or touchID (biggest couple of drawbacks i can think of), give it a try, it a lot more polished than other linux experiences on x86
Sad to see Gnome having troubles but as someone who disliked their smartphone-ish design, single-tasking oriented UI they've made since 3, I'm happy to see KDE doing well.
The one area in linux that is confusing & overwhelming for many people (including me), especially because of all the different terminologies is of graphic drivers & other related technologies. Like openGL, NVK, Vulkan, DXVK, Nova, Nouveau, Zink, GSP, VKD3D, etc. And also how do they work with Wine & Proton. It would be really nice if you'd make a separate video which explains all of these terms for the geeks like us.
Graphics APIs: OpenGL(ES)/Vulkan/Metal/Direct3D (DirectX).
Standardized interfaces for drawing graphics, usually consisting of a set of C function and type specifications. Each vendor usually provides their own implementation of some of these as dynamic libraries which an application loads at runtime. The implementation then converts the function calls to commands to send to the respective kernel driver. These implementations are often called "user space drivers". There are also 3rd party implementations.
Kernel drivers: Nouveau (3rd party open source Nvidia driver)/Nvidia proprietary/Nvidia open/Intel i915/amdgpu/radeon.
These sit in the DRM (Direct Rendering Manager) subsystem of the Linux kernel and receive commands from the graphics APIs (as well as video decode/encode and compute APIs) via the ioctl system call and in turn issue commands to the actual hardware to fulfill the requests.
3rd party graphics API implementations:
Asahi (Apple M1 OpenGL)/Honeykrisp (Apple M1 Vulkan)/NVK (Nvidia Vulkan)/RADV (AMD Vulkan)/etc.
Open source graphics API implementations targeting various kernel drivers.
Graphics translation layers: DXVK (Direct3D8-11 to Vulkan)/vkd3d (Direct3D12 to Vulkan)/Zink (OpenGL to Vulkan)/etc.
3rd party graphics API implementations which translate calls from one API to another (usually to Vulkan as this is "lower level" and more modern) instead of talking to the kernel driver. This achieves vendor-agnosticism as long as there is an implementation of the "target API" which talks to the kernel driver (modern graphics cards usually support Vulkan - looking at you Apple). DXVK for example allows you to play Direct3D games on Linux, no matter if you have an Nvidia, AMD or Intel card, by translating to Vulkan calls which are then handled by the vendor-specific drivers.
Honorable mention: the Mesa3D project which maintains various user-space drivers (like NVK, Zink, Asahi, RADV, etc).
Wine/Proton is at its core a Windows executable loader, dynamic library loader and Windows system call implementation that translates to Linux system calls. When used to run Direct3D games with DXVK, Wine/Proton is just pointed to the DXVK .dll files which will then be loaded when the application tries to load Direct3D. These then call the normal Linux Vulkan driver to actually draw the graphics. Proton is as far as I understand just a fork of Wine with gaming-focused patches which comes packaged with DXVK and vkd3d.
I would like to Thumbs up this comment a hundred times.
Thank you Nick. Years of being on the linux side of things, and you help me be a bit lazy and focus on my computing without having to worry about directly searching for stuff apart of linux news.
Honestly im surprised gnome is still together as most people agree they are awful to work with and dont listen to people in general and do things their own way
Probably because of corporations donating as a tax write off when they had more revenue, or something
"do things their own way" so is gnome supposed to be a visionless amorphous blob that just does anything and nothing
@@binglebongusdongus yes, they should exist in a quantum state
That smacks of "i didn't get my way" so Gnome doesn't listen to anyone.
Agreed, they've been digging their own grave for the past decade. If they keep this up and don’t change their attitude, IBM won’t bail them out-it'll simply be cheaper to move to KDE/Qt ( whether you like it or not)
Gnome is my daily driver so it's sad to see them struggling. I hope they recover soon!
Bro did u look up what tf they're doing with all this money ? KDE got less but still cook harder than gnome
@@watynecc3309that’s a bit unfair considering gnome foundation literally contributes the most to gtk and libadwaita which are the leading ui toolkits across all desktop environments and contribute to much lower level standards across all desktop linux distributions like their nice polkit auth engine that make things for everyone easier and more polished.
Im so sad for the financial state of gnome :(
Yeah, it’s worrying :/
Maybe GNOME developers should give the community what they want and not act so arrogantly if they want us to donate 😂
Yeah, maybe developers should stick to developing, not getting themselves involved in politics
@@toxiccan175 The remaining 5 people in the GNOME community would have to donate a hell of a lot.😂
They should learn from Jubuntu. They're good with money. Ok enough raciss jokes for now.
I suspect nvidia is trying to get got Linux support for the next RHEL release, where they plan on dropping X11. They're doing all this for the AI servers
Exactly, nothing is coming from the goodness of their hearts, it's only business, money comes first.
> They're doing all this for the AI servers
there is no X11 or Wayland on AI servers though, is it?
@@zocker1600 Just because it's a "server", doesn't mean there is no multi-million business application that requires display servers, only the future would tell us why Nvidia is now investing in this.
@@themedleb I can tell you why Nvidia is doing this.
WSLg, which allows you to run Linux GUI applications on Windows, is using Wayland on the Linux side to pass it through to DWM.
> doesn't mean there is no multi-million business application that requires display servers
oh yeah there def are, they run either on Windows or on WSL 2
"AI servers" as originally stated are completely headless though, the GPUs used for AI training do not even have a display output.
Mapping the drawing tablet area to fit the screen was not an issue, the changes were made to basically allow a smaller segment of the tablet to be mapped to the full screen.
In practice it mostly means the ability to change your drawing tablet's sensitivity.
I mean ... Gnome has been ignoring user feedback for literal years. Of course they have money issues. You can't consistently keep screwing over your base, and then still expect them to donate. But yeah, that's exactly what the Gnome project expects. They always think they're right, and everyone else is wrong. They're literally impossible to work with.
That being said, most open source project probably have money issues.
If they ignore user feedback then why did they hire a shaman?
I asked for one.
Tech changes for the better or worst, I use Gnome 41 but do research future releases for future upgrades, I have to have stablility, when I do upgrade its all based on tech that just works. I move into new features that are proven to work. Not every Gnome release is good but when they do put it together its golden.
I just know every time I've attempted to use it I've been so frustrated by all the things I consider essentials being missing that I've never kept it on an bare metal install.
They received 1.000.000$ to develop some simple features, and the only thing they achieved was... implementing accent colors? And now they are running out of money LMAO
"user feedback" and its objectively worse things or just making gnome kde
Wow, who would have thought that appointing a "professional shaman" as the head of the foundation would have financial consequences.
Indeed, LoL! I would have been cheesed if I had donated after realising she was on minimum $120K p/a.
Wtf?
@@stancooper5436 Clarity here - I haven't gotten deep into the vid - is she getting paid $120k by the GNOME Foundation, or as a shaman, because if you can make that kind of money as a shaman, I need to start wrapping sage bundles
Never forget no outlet or vlog talked about this except for one guy who got unpersoned for this story and being a right winger, but yeah gnome hired a self defined professional shaman (as in they offered shamanic sessions and courses for cash lmao) and put her as HEAD OF FUNDING. Incredible work. Also she left after 9 months, so that must have worked out great.
@@CloudCuckooKing that was her salary from GNOME, she left a few months after being appointed though
Power went out from hurricane Milton and I was waiting the whole time for it to come back just so I could get Asahi on my Mac mini
The Board is bloated.
As a newcomer I do really appriate your work aswell, it helped me to take the first steps on the road becoming a permanent Linux user for almost a year ago (without dualboot). I listened these informations with mixed feelings.
In 2003, my very first experience with Linux happened to be with a Gnome desktop (the name I forgot, but I remembered it's footpring icon). Of course as a teenager I had no choice when my parents decided installing XP over that Linux on my mother's laptop. When I replaced win11 in January 2024, I instantly searched it. Though nowadays Gnome does not match with my taste, but I would feel really sad, if they would disappear.
Another great episode Nick!
Love you Nick, thanks for the news every week.
I'm not surprised about GNOME, but I guess I'm still disappointed. As a KDE Plasma user I want strong competition so both dominant DEs keep becoming better and better. On the other hand, a big organization ignoring its community many times over and lacking transparency for years eventually has to touch grass lol. I hope they revamp the organization to make it way more transparent and community led, although I doubt it will happen.
13:59 Rock and stone!
What about not spending money on a shaman?
Quick heads up, Kubuntu 24.10 runs better than the standard Ubuntu release and themes work fine for both Qt and GTK apps.
Is it using KDE 6.1 or 6.2?
@@agnuswulf 6.1
Not for me, unfortunately.
@@agnuswulf 6.1
several times i had issues with extensions on rolling release gnome. it just taught me not to use extensions, but it is a bad experience for users
When I hear 'Asahi' I can't help but think of Pentax!
I think of the beer
@@HyuLilium Yes! Forgot about that! 🍺👍🏻😁
Maybe they should hire a Leprechaun next, it’s pot of gold could be useful
I think the aim was to use the magic crystals from the shaman to find a Leprechaun.
The luck of the Irish? That's a very hard thing to obtain.
@@stancooper5436 Too bad they only had a part time shaman, a full bloodied one would have probably found a Leprechaun within the first week of being CEO
😂
"leopard ate my face" applies hard here for gnome. Their devs talk to their users like they're peasants. They can now spend their "philosophy" that they throw at everyone's face when asked for features.
Wokeism destroys everything.
Gnome had a code of conduct that explicitly stated that it protects everyone except white males.
Maybe they changed it now, I don't know. Haven't bothered to check.
@@pyepye-io4vu LMAO, stop huffing your own fume.
Feed the TH-cam algorithm with a comment. Great video. Thank you!
Wondering when Apple will get those Asahi guys inhouse.
5:10 damn plasma looks so hot!!!
Good to see nvidia wayland support improving. I actually still use the onboard Intel GPU on my main system that runs KDE/Wayland and use offload to run games on my 3080 Ti, and that works a lot better than trying to get the nvidia GPU to handle the desktop itself. Plus I get nice things like fully working vaapi with no hacks and the nvidia GPU's VRAM is totally empty when no games are running, which lets me use larger models when I run LLMs via CUDA.
I use mint btw
MINT GANG
I use mint with kde plasma btw
@@donaldbaird7849 I use arch with gnome btw
i use cachyOS btw
In the end of the day, mint just works, mint is the goat
Hi Nick, when are you going to talk about Linux apps on Android?
Why? Android ecosystem is way better than Linux.
@@SecureSnowball I need LibreOffice on Android with extensions.
@@SecureSnowball It is not me, but the owner of android, google, who wants to extend support for Linux apps on android
Yes, I need to look into this.
Android & Linix interpretability would be awesome.... and that Android uses a cut down Linux kernel....
unfortunately wayland broke my workflow recently, With the graphic tablet's pen I can't drag layers up or down, the layer I'm moving just keep stuck on the cursor until I do a click with the mouse, that doesn't happen when I login with an x11 session (That happened on KDE and Gnome) but that kind of stuff just gets fixed in a week or so
With the update to Kubuntu 24.10 I've been surprised how good wayland got with my nvidia card.
23.04: system crashed, couldn't fix, needed to reinstall the whole system
23.10: all worked but slow. Games had big performance issues
24.04: wayland didn't even start until nvidia 550 was out. Didn't work well after that
now: everything works except some older x-only apps. Couldn't find any big issues
Happy to hear about progress surrounding NVK and Zink. I do really want to use them daily, but NVIDIA is just more powerful, performant, etc. Can also do ray tracing and the like. Hopefully NVK gets to a point where I can switch and not feel like it's a big downgrade, making my 3060 Ti perform worse than a 1050 Ti.
What is the worst part of GNOME’s money management issues, it is the most advanced desktop environment for 2-in-1 laptop/tablet computers. KDE has a lot of issues with non-Qt apps working correctly with touchscreens, but I can, for the most part, just run GNOME and everything just works.
@@jfftck Actually, since Plasma 5.27, there is a 2 in 1 tablet mode on Wayland. On my AMD tablet, it just works.
@@cameronbosch1213 I shouldn't need to switch modes (even Windows doesn't require this!), and I have used Plasma on my cellphone and noticed that I couldn't use menus on GTK apps, so it still wasn't working as expected. If that is fixed, I would try it out again.
well if gnome team keeps up with their attitude and wont change like past decade they will loose more money and soon there wont Gnome/GTK left, and I highly doubt IBM or other corp has much interest in bailing out Gnome/Gtk after everything when its much cheaper to move to KDE/Qt (like it or not)
@jfftck On Wayland, this can be set to automatic. (This cannot be done on XOrg unfortunately, where tablet mode must be set manually.)
Also, have you watched TechHut's video on tablet mode with Ubuntu (with GNOME) vs some other KDE distro (I think it was Fedora KDE but I'm not 100% sure)? GNOME didn't have a virtual keyboard, whereas KDE Plasma did.
@@AlexanderAhjolinna Exactly. COSMIC is shaping up to be a Rust version of GNOME that's actually done well and done with some community feedback in mind. And it's not even beta quality yet!
I wouldn't be shocked if GNOME eventually has another GNOME 3 or KDE 4 moment soon.
After trying probably the top 30 distros on distrowatch and all major DEs I found myself going back to Mint with cinnamon . The only distro that actually makes sense for me and I am using Linux for 2-3 years by now
Mint with Cinnamon is beautiful. It's what my spouse runs too. I'm more of a KDE person but I appreciate what Mint is doing for our community.
I can't decide between Mint with Cinnamon or Debian with KDE Plasma, ran Mint for a year, currently on Debian with KDE for a few months now, I find both amazing in each own way, Cinnamon has some things that like over Plasma and same other way around, both DEs are pretty amazing though, also ran Manjaro for a while, but for me it broke with just regular updates like once a month, so went over to something that doesn't update as much(honestly weekly 1GB updates annoy the hell out of me)
Seems guy liked W40k spacemarines 2 :)
Loving the Warhammer 40k stuff in the background
The fact that nVidia gives so much attention to Linux lately... gives me much hope. I really don't understand why some video game developers are so keen on outing Linux as a platform. They should really reconsider their options, especially now that the gaming industry is going through some rough times.
@TurntableTV Both points are so true.
Regarding Nvidia, I'll bet it has to do with the A.I. bubble. I just wish they'd allow the GTX 9 & 10 series to have proper reclocking with Nouveau.
As for gaming on Linux, I legitimately don't get it. Supporting Linux with EAC or BattleEye is literally a check box away from allowing Proton. (I'm not talking about EA's broken anti-cheat even on Windows with all of the BSODs when closing F1 24. They just scream incompetence.) After all, most cheaters are on Windows anyway, which is an OS that very few people know how it works from the inside out because nobody other than internal Microsoft employees know how it works.
Besides, how effective are these client-side anti-cheats anyway compared to server-side anti-cheats!?
Finally, Epic, there are more Steam users on Linux than macOS; stop making excuses and start either telling the truth why you don't enable the anti-cheat for your games or just enable it!
I bet it benefits them for their AI stuff.
You should watch some video game studio / company documentaries.
Game developers generally have ABSOLUTELY ZERO IDEA / EXPERIENCE how Linux works.
In fact many games don't even run too well on Windows either,
they are made for consoles first, and ported to PC later...
@@pyepye-io4vu That's the whole point of Proton. Generally, they don't need to do anything to make it work.
Donating to foundations is a waste of money on useless things. People should donate directly to developers. Foundations have corporate sponsors to take care of them.
Hey Nick, I've been watching your videos and you had a big rol on my switch to linux full time. I want your advice tho. I want to buy a linux powered laptop for davinci resolve. What specs should I look for?
Thank you.
Thanks Nick!
Manjaro KDE just got Plasma 6.2. With kernel 6.11, I think Manjaro is always cutting edge. Wayland work fine on AMD, IBM but I can't get it to work with my older Nvidia Gt1030 card.
Wait, on stable? I'm on stable and I haven't received 6.2 yet !!
@@jinujonn No, I am on testing branch.
I like the new setup!
I use Fedora btw.
Me too. But the KDE spin. Or rather 2 Fedora, 1 Debian box
I use Bazzite KDE (steam deck) btw.
I don't btw.
@gljames24 I use Arch KDE and EndeavourOS KDE btw.
@@hagenzwosta KDE Fedora Spin since Fedora 24. And happy with it.
Installed Plasma 6.2 a few days ago and the release is fine. No regressions that I could notice. In fact, previous update 6.1.5 came with a plenty of bugs and those usually continue in 6.2 (although the severity was lowered, so 6.2 improved things a bit).
A dollar is a freaking deal in this day and age .
Boring week, except I was able to try plasma 6.1.
Hope I will be able to do my daily job on Monday.
I did try playing on Steam with Asahi the other day and it's mixed results. Some games booted up with no issues, some with issues and some not at all along with frequent crashes
But that being said it is very cool that it works at all and it can only get better from here
At least it plays games unlike MacOS
Time to donate to GNOME.
Asahi linux is great project but why buy a mac if you wanted to use linux.
Some people really like the hardware, I guess
Yes, this is why I bought one. It’s an M1 MacBook I bought basically when silicon was announced. I absolutely love the hardware and I naively thought I’d be able to either get used to macOS or install Linux. Neither are true. But asahi is getting close.
Because those are amazing and great value laptops (especially the cheaper ones)
@JoshuaT902 because to develop iOS applications you need a mac for Xcode and its compilers to work?
@@wilsontulus How is that not a monopoly investigation!?
Funny how excited I got over these Ws which literally do not affect me
The fact that in 2024 some compositors ship OpenGL drivers for more than a fallback is embarrassing. Nvidia is completely right about Vulkan being the ideal standard. Speaking of Nvidia, regardless of their past on Linux, this move should be praised and encouraged, otherwise there is no point
was planning on sending some money to GNOME foundation and now it looks like it is more important than ever.
love using GNOME so i should really give something back
@TheLinuxEXP I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the Murena outage.
Until Remmina on wayland supports dual monitors. I'll be sticking to xorg.
So shaman Holly Million - that supposedly did a great job as GNOME foundation executive, to raise donations - left, and she wasn't fired, no no, she left to "invest in herself" - and now we find that GNOME is deep in the hole and can't continue planned operations due to lower than expected donations. But that wasn't because the previous executive director - it's just the business environment. Ahmmm, yes, I see how it is.
it's not a deep hole, guss.
I've actually had some real-life experience with shamans.
They are airheads, horrible with money / responsibility,
and will do / peddle / scam whatever they can to get some money to offset their spending habits.
They have no SHAME. Get it?
My guess is that this chick had some connections (or sucked someone's dick) at GNOME to get money quick and then get out.
Not that different from all the fake spiritual gurus etc. that's going on in California / Bay Area tech world.
She's probably on to her next target to fund whatever stupid crap she's peddling next.
@@IMBREISGAU I don't know, but they fired half of their paid work force and according to the press release are going to seriously limit their conference expenditure. Sounds pretty deep to me.
I use OpenSUSE Tumbleweed btw
Great to see nvidia giving Wayland some attention
Nick, I'm still waiting for Tuxedo to make smaller laptops than 14". Ideally 11" or 12". You couldn't use your influence and have a word with them?!
Prime example why devs should actually listen to users. No way I’ll ever support such disaster cluster f what Gnome has evolved. I’d much rather support any other UI. Seriously, Gnome can really blame just themselves.
Why are you not mentioning this major "change" in KDE 6.2? The removal of HDR support for NVIDIA...
Because it wasn’t mentioned anywhere in the release notes or change log?
well its disable because of driver bug, check KDE bug id=488941
it can be enabled manually with a Environment Variable: "KWIN_DRM_ALLOW_NVIDIA_COLORSPACE"
I'm glad that cosmic is coming and so barry gnome forever
gnomoney
Between hiring a shaman as Executive Director and firing key contributors in secrecy, the executive part of GNOME seems like a dumpster fire, unlike KDE Foundation that has a rock-steady funding stream and a "user-first" executive policy. I am a GNOME user and love the project itself, but the foundation part does not seem very focused and does not inspire confidence.
@@altrogeruvah literally WHAT do her beliefs have to do with her job. would you call her out if she was muslim or christian? but i guess it's acceptable if she doesn't believe in the popular religions
@altrogeruvah The Sonny Piers dismissal really is shady. We _still_ don't know what the circumstances were...
@@binglebongusdongus Let me rephrase that: a person who has a PhD in shamanology is hired for an executive position whose element is completely foreign to this person. I'm not questioning this person for being completely out of their depth, I am questioning GNOME's initial thought process for hiring said person. I don't know why you had to turn this into a pearl-clutcher, but it's very annoying.
Yay algorithms woo
I thought it was GNU/Linux and Free Software news, but you're talking about AAA gaming
I'm sure the chief officer positions got their salaries and bonuses absolutely severed since they're doing so bad they're ending with positions as important as creative and communitive director and no longer investing into coordinating the community and raising funds, right?
Right?.......
Putting aside internal organization/managements issues for a moment...it is really bad if gnome is not financially sound...when you have major linux distributions using gnome as the default desktop environment - whether that be Ubuntu, Fedora, PopOS, etc...this could lead to larger problems down the road. You really don't want to see wack-a-mole desktop breaking bugs due to staffing/funding shortages...there are also corporate entities that benefit at least indirectly from gnome-based software/desktop environments..I'm surprised more funding isn't coming from them to maintain the project.
GNOME just has lots of people in charge that make bad decisions...
I didn’t try Wayland with 560, but with 550 wasn’t very good at all. At least in 24.04. Cyberpunk was flickering like a mofo.
Considering how well is working for me with X11 in 24.04 right now. I gotta be honest, I feel skittish about upgrading anything. LOL. 😂
555 actually fixed that issue. I tried 550 and god damn I felt like I was gonna get a seizure it was that bad. Switching to 555 made the problem instantly go away. I do understand your hesitancy to upgrade anything though, but I do recommend giving it another try! Good luck!
@@zeckma that’s good to know mate. Thanks!
@zeckma Plasma 5.27.0 until 5.27.6 was exactly that, a seizure warning that eventually locked up the desktop on Nvidia. Now it's better than XOrg ever was, because XOrg doesn't play well with multi monitors with different scaling factors and/or refresh rates.
@@zeckma I finally switched. Today I discovered VRR wasn’t working anymore in x11, for some reason. So I decided to give it another go. It works. I’m using 560.
That's what happens when you don't take user feedback and expect big daddy corporations to finance your operation.
I thought that Gnome received 1 million last year.
Yeah, didn't they?? Did they lose it or something?
They spend it all on implementing accent colors
It all went into Creativity and Community Development 😜
They spent it all on antiwh1te initiatives
as i remember that was to implement one specific feature
Am i loosing my mind or does GNOME run out of money every other month?
No, it’s the first time they mentioned it, I think?
@@TheLinuxEXP Guess i'm just having a solo Mandela Effect lol
No it's not, some month ago they said they need to tune down their development or something @@SmokingMan26
@@SmokingMan26 Ah, that evil African time warlock got you too, huh? I'm from the timeline where the US never dropped the 'u' in the word 'colour'
KDE with Wayland has some bugs for me, but I am going to continue using it over GNOME because the old boomer anger I get from GNOME devs whenever I bring up any issue is a turn off.
I use labwc myself bc i love Openbox, but damn, Plasma looks quite sexy
What about Wayfire?
Are you planning to make 24.10 spina vid?
Gnome is kinda crap. Their financial struggles are no surprise...
Whats the point of a DE that doesn't support the most basic functionality without plugins that break every update...
they've been digging their own grave for the past decade, and IBM won’t bail them out that is for sure, they will see that it'll simply be cheaper to move to KDE/Qt ( whether people like it or not)
@@AlexanderAhjolinna Which is really sad, because IMO, GNOME has by far the best UI design in the Linux ecosystem. I'd switch to Cosmic before I used KDE. It's just hideous. Half the reason I even moved to Linux is because of how much I hate the Windows design system, and KDE is just as bad, and in some cases even worse.
@@verified_tinker1818 I'm sorry you think that way
@@verified_tinker1818 The windows design system just the most intuitive and efficient. No two ways about it.
Plasma is just an upgrade.
I have a question:
So I want to switch from Windows to Linux, because of RAM usage, end of support for Windows 10, and Windows 11 not being supported.
However, I'm stuck with one thing. I can't really choose between Plasma and GNOME. GNOME has a really good UI, but lacks basic features and needs extensions. Plasma is super customizable, but the UI looks a bit ugly to me...
Which one do you think it's better?
Just get over the whole look thing, and go with Plasma.
Kubuntu or KDE Neon are great choices.
@@pyepye-io4vu OK. I'll give Kubuntu a try.
A beautiful thing about Linux is you can try with them both and choose the one you end up preferring. But there are loads of other options as well as these two so just experiment
Pop!_OS desktop might be a good fit for you, it's similar to gnome but extended quite a bit
You can make KDE look like whatever the fuck you want it to be, but it does require a lot of manual work that someone might not want to do.
GNOME to me is the only "comfortable" desktop environment. All others are either too complicated or too non functional. very sad to see them struggling
I've never gotten the too complicated argument when "good defaults, many options" is perfect for all parties
@@BeefIngot if your referring to KDE, its defaults are unfortunately not good enough. It still feels terribly underdeveloped.
@@xtcntr Gnime feels painful to me by default so 🤷
What's missing for you?
gnome taking the worst decisions ever and removing *basic* features that every DE has and features that were already there in gnome, decisions that drive users away and lessen the reputation of gnome, and now they have money problems? it doesen't surprise me at all lol
14:12 if Asahi managed to write gpu drivers for apple silicon in 1 years with 1/2 devs, why is the nvidia drivers rewritten in rust years away?
Cosmic, please hurry.
Bad news for Gnome then immediately after hearing good news for KDE looks a bit like propaganda. But I endorse it
I am running Ubuntu 22.04.05 on one of my machines, the other 3 are still running MINT! I abandoned Gnome after release 2, v3 and later are HORRIBLE performers, the UI with the dock isn't horrible, if it would work like MAC! GNOME needs a new brain, its SO SLOW compared to MATE on Ubuntu! And YES, SNAP packages are a crap shoot to start on Gnome, Always start FAST on MATE! Not ready yet to upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04. Still got LTS support on what I have for a while yet. Oh Yeah, have to make another comment about gnome, it still reminds me so much of the dreaded windoz 8 for random placement of icons. But not quite as nasty!
Anybody here knows how to split my screen into into virtual monitors on ubuntu wayland? something like displayfusion for windows
Rolling out a dependency on Vulkan actually has a *very* large downside. By doing so, you will be restricting the use of older computers (laptops in particular), that would run fine otherwise, but that do not support Vulkan. It's a little disappointing because Windows actually handles this better, by using DirectX and whatnot.
About Asahi Linux could be gaming, I don't know it works it all depends on the game.
Gnome's Creative Director was very inexperienced. They had 6 years of graphic design in a commercial environment. That is barely a senior designer in a London studio. The skills to be a CD are so much more, that take at least 12-15 years to grasp. Maybe they'll employ a CD who can set a vision for Gnome and work with the community to impliment it.
The gnome foundation thing sounds like a ceo was needing a new yatch
they're not Elon Musks or Jeff Bezos.
It gnome can't get it's act together, hopefully cosmic can replace it as the other big desktop environment
Apple is too busy trying to force their proprietary technology and that is why they are so far behind, because they don’t want to give the users freedom to the hardware they think they purchased. It’s Apple’s goal to continually direct consumers into their services and they don’t want open standards to allow software to be transportable between platforms as it’s not going to encourage developers to make Apple exclusive apps.
@jfftck That's exactly why I will not develop for iOS; unless of course, Apple gifts me a free Mac.
Best to invest in Cosmic than Gnome. It will most definitely "replace" it eventually anyway. (Of course that will take a decade, but it's happening.)
One of the reason Gnome is the default on most distro, especially the one leaning towards business use is legal issues. Various countries have strict laws on accessibility options and, as i understand it, only Gnome delivers on these with KDE as a possible contender. I believe - do not quote me on this - the other DE's have nothing like. As such, business and Govt organisations CANNOT take Linux unless it is Gnome. So, if Cosmic is to take the crown from Gnome it has to replicate ALL the Gnome accessibility features.
I say that as a KDE fan.
@@jedipadawan7023Actually, COSMIC is also backed by a company, that being System76.
Nothing is stopping anybody from adapting Orca (the screen reader for GNOME) to work with Iced or Qt apps; it's GPL after all!
@@jedipadawan7023 To the best of my knowledge, one of the main reasons gnome became more popular than KDE is because of the licensing issues around Qt in the 90s/early 2000s. And then Ubuntu chose gnome as their default back in 2004 (instead of offering DE options at install, as was standard with Redhat/SuSE/Debian/etc. back in the day) which just cemented their place as the de facto standard desktop for Linux distributions.
more like 5 decade.
cosmic will be here much sooner i believe. Writing a base of a DE takes a long time and that is here now, so they just need to add additional features. I still like the aesthetics of gnome, but the new code base with cosmic and tiling support will make me switch.
Great, now I mist figure out how to make my Nvidia graphics card work.
i see nick video, i like nick video.
wtf i love M1 cpu now
the negativity and hate on GNOME here in the comments is saddening... you may not like GNOME desktop and thats ok, but to trash it and wish that it bankrupts for just doing something different for us users with different preference of a desktop is just toxic. i actually use GNOME and love what direction GNOME is heading, but would never even thought of trashing KDE Plasma for looking "bloated" or something when i know that that is just a different vision of the desktop. this is really the worst that the linux "community" has to offer and it sucks. :(
People are quick to forget and shortsighted. For the longest time, only GNOME devs were working on Wayland at all. They did most of the ground work. KDE had two very rocky transition periods with Plasma 4 and 5, which both took years to stabilize. It seems they finally learned a lesson or two with Plasma 6, though there were still quite a few problems. A lot of distros, either directly or indirectly, rely on GNOME. I appreciate that people prefer other DEs, in particular ones that offer a more traditional desktop paradigm, but it would be _really_ bad for desktop Linux if the GNOME goes bankrupt.