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  • @robinyilmaz1155
    @robinyilmaz1155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Traffic depends on 2 things:
    - how dense the traffic is
    - how dense the people in traffic are

    • @Feribrat99
      @Feribrat99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      good answer. I live in a college town and there are a lot of dipsticks behind the wheel for sure. Education failure for sure.

    • @eeeeeek
      @eeeeeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Feribrat99 ok karen

  • @gigakoresh
    @gigakoresh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I think EU has figured out how to solve traffic for a while now. It's this revolutionary invention called rail. Turns out if you don't build giant freaking roads in the middle of cities, have tram, bus and cycle lanes, focus on rail transport (trams, metro, trains) which makes public transport pleasant to use suddenly people aren't so eager to use cars for any trip over 100m. It also turns out that all these transportation modes are electric and emission-free. Shocking, right?
    My point is: governments cause traffic jams, not people. By building infrastructure for their corporate lobbyists instead of citizens who vote for them.

    • @oliverwilson11
      @oliverwilson11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Somebody who actually understands transport. Thank you.

    • @bobthegoat7090
      @bobthegoat7090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, you are right, but people also cause traffic jams

    • @DoubleOhSilver
      @DoubleOhSilver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not only that, but they have actual bike-friendly cities (not just bike lanes) and actual walkable cities (where you don't even have to cross roads). I really wish the US could do that

    • @RobinOttens
      @RobinOttens 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Traffic jams are still a big issue here in the Netherlands. They just happen outside the cities. Thankfully, working from home this year has alleviated a lot of it.

    • @gigakoresh
      @gigakoresh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DoubleOhSilver US can do that if people stop voting for populists

  • @closmasmas9080
    @closmasmas9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My whole premise of driving on roadways is to avoid breaking whenever possible by maintaining a safe following distance. If I do need to break, I try to gradually break, so that by the time I get to the stopped cars, the traffic may already start going

  • @surreygeorge11
    @surreygeorge11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to be the kind of driver everyone hated. I tailgated, drove fast, kind of 'battled' every other car.
    I've changed my driving habits, and now drive very safely. Leaving a good distance up front, let up on the gas, stay in the right lane unless I need to change.
    What I learned was all the hurry only gets you a few extra minutes, rarely worth it. Most people drive too fast, not for their ability, but for less competent drivers to react. When you drive with that in mind, the driving is much smoother and cheaper on gas.

  • @awillard69
    @awillard69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    The problem is that too many drivers see driving as a "ME" activity, not a "WE" activity. As soon as one driver makes decisions which only benefit themselves to the detriment of other drivers, you have traffic issues.

    • @alfreddino2071
      @alfreddino2071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But I guess this is the point to have a car and drive it by oneself, mainly how to spend shorter time to go from A to B. And they can have their own decision. They are thinking as "I" not "we". Otherwise, they will take the public transport.

    • @DoubleOhSilver
      @DoubleOhSilver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's hard to read other drivers intentions anyway and some people still make mistakes. AI would help but an even better idea is to lower car dependence

    • @Feribrat99
      @Feribrat99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alfreddino2071 Public transport is only an option in the cities, rural use would still be get in your car and drive. Trains and rails between the smaller cities to the bigger ones is a better solution but they ain't gonna do it. Cities are the biggest ME there is, no one else figures in until you look at shopping. $$$$$ rules the greedy guts.

    • @alfreddino2071
      @alfreddino2071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Feribrat99 Thank you for the reminder!! haha.. You are right that it is necessary to have a car if in rural area. But there are very few traffic jam in the rural area. They are mainly in the big cities. The best solution for me is: drive to the nearest train station, then take the transport to the city. But many people in my place don't like that when they have cars. They like points to points.

    • @CamiloSantana
      @CamiloSantana 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me first and the gimme gimmes... Welcome to Lost Angeles traffic

  • @Kwicdrawmcgraw
    @Kwicdrawmcgraw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I don't think the researchers are taking account that alot of people will pass or get in front of the autonomous car just to try to get where they're going faster. I think there will have to be more than 1 out of 10 cars to positively affect traffic jams. Maybe 4 or 5 out of 10?

    • @scunnerdarkly4929
      @scunnerdarkly4929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also, a (literally) closed-loop experiment as we saw here offers valuable insights but doesn’t reflect the dynamics of an open loop, i.e. the real world. AI traffic-control cars make for an interesting lab experiment but, as you say, as soon as a human finds the opportunity to pass by they will. No, if AI is to manage traffic in the real world it will be more likely in the form of AI “zones” such as highways that are open exclusively to vehicles fitted with technology permitting each zone to adopt full vehicular control (obviously with suitable manual overrides). Exactly how the vehicles are managed is another discussion altogether but the important thing is removing the human elements that cause these problems in the first place.

  • @sagerobot
    @sagerobot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What an interesting topic! Wonderfully narrated as well :)

  • @274pacific
    @274pacific 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It takes longer to speed up than it does to slow down. When you tap the breaks, you set off a chain reaction behind you that creates a buildup. Because it happens behind you, you don't know what you've done - and because everyone does it, the blame is distributed and nobody thinks it's their fault.

  • @tomaszwida
    @tomaszwida 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    or maybe just maybe build robust public transportation so people are no so much CAR DEPENDANT!!!!

  • @jlshoem
    @jlshoem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Those that gave this video a thumbs down are probably tailgaters.

  • @Bladavia
    @Bladavia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm just not sold on the ecological argument tho, since in the end, the goal is "to pass twice as many cars". Sure we might get some benefits in the beginning, reducing gas emissions by reducing traffic jams, but after a while this is just gonna mean more cars on the road and the same problem will come back even stronger. It's still an expansionist solution, "more more more bigger more better". Everything else, in terms of avoiding accidents and just being more efficient sounds very appealing.

    • @tomaszwida
      @tomaszwida 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah this is shit of a solution, they did this already in 50,60,70 when trafic occurred they just add another lane on a road, and suprise suprise traffic jam occurred more frequently, and with bigger impact (more cars could fit on a 3 lane highway then on 2 line) we have a saying in my country for this type of "solution" it roughly translates to "its like fighting obesity by losing up the belt"

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But it’s not more lanes, it’s a fundamental change to our driving behaviour to make it act more like trains with many carriages. Even tho railways have finite capacity too, you rarely see actual stop and go traffic on them. They’re either running, or they’re outright off. Not to mention, zero carbon driving is coming, so the ecological issues become more ones of land use and noise than pollution. Although of course it’s still an important consideration today. But we won’t have truly autonomous driving software for a number of years yet.
      Of course, this cannot be the only solution. Just as climate change requires casting a wide net, so too does traffic’s solution lie in diversity. Proper cross country public transport and robust commuter networks are key as well. (I’ve never understood why they’re not more sought after in America, in Europe even high earners who drive everywhere else will take the train for their commute. They can read the newspaper or nap or maybe do some work. And it’s cheaper than fuel and parking costs, and quicker.)

    • @tomaszwida
      @tomaszwida 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kaitlyn__L this is the problem with these technomaniac solution. people think its a god sent when its really not. eventually u will add more cars "because hey its more efficient"
      the road will fill up and then a bug in a system happens and believe me It will, its gonna have tremendous impacts. I work in the tech industry these software solutions are inadequate and inefficient as it gets. they are more reliable then manual but still overall crap. u say car behave like trains. are u saying that cars will carry 10-50 passengers per car like trains do? or is it gonna be like its is today, 2 tons can per person?
      also 0 emission cars is a myth and a marketing sham they are little more efficient then gasoline cars sure but its far far from 0. to get to truly 0 emission u need a electric grid that charges the cars to be 0(good luck with that). not to mention production of battery

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomaszwida well of course, the entire second half of my comment says that leaning entirely on this one thing is foolish. Or did you only read the first half? And of course you need a fully clean grid to have fully clean electric cars. However unless you live in Russia or Poland the emissions from the electricity are already lower than those from driving petrol or diesel. By move like trains I mean all together in a block, not in a rippled stop and go fashion where jams can still disrupt traffic further down the line hours after the traffic itself clears. The second half of my comment makes clear proper rail networks are better for the bulk moving of people, handling commutes and cross country traffic.
      However, all that being said: even with the best possible public transport, cars and vans will never disappear entirely. And level 4 or 5 autonomy _is_ coming, whether it takes 10 years or 50. It’s not a short term solution, it’s not a technocratic miracle fix, it’s not Ready Right Now!! - but rather it’s something our road planners need to take into account for the medium term. And thankfully they already are, with communications standards like V2X. My comment highlighted some of those considerations for the medium and long term.
      Unless your car is pre-90s, you’ve been driving using software with drive-by-wire, and there hasn’t been a bug or a freeze. You haven’t crashed due to a random error. It’s understandable to think: a computer is a computer is a computer. But a real-time operating system on specialist hardware (used in safety critical applications) is very different from a modern multimedia operating system with resource contention and nondeterministic code, such as used in your phone or your car’s head unit. Your ECU hasn’t suddenly failed to respond to the gas pedal, your steering rack motors (post-hydraulic-steering) haven’t failed to respond to your turning of the wheel, etc. At worst you’ve had an errant warning light come on which required turning off the engine briefly to fix. For further reading, you can look into RTOSes in general, and VxWorks in particular; following links from those as you desire. Specifically the watchdog timer and maximum reboot time is highly relevant to reliability in vehicle safety.
      Good day to you.

    • @glike2
      @glike2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh I'm with Not Sure

  • @derekjparnell
    @derekjparnell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The best 'solution' I've come across to reduce vehicle traffic is to reduce the number of vehicles. During the COVID-19 lockdown(s), driving was so much easier due to the lack of private vehicles on the road.

  • @remicaron3191
    @remicaron3191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow we already have made traffic better it's called trains but we don't want to build them so we are left with outdated modes of transport and the issues they have. This a solution which can be solved with another mode of transport easily so why not do that instead and eliminate all exhaust from cars instead of lowering them?

    • @spottedtime
      @spottedtime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You do know that trains predate cars, considered that most of the US train tracks had to be removed due to roads being a better way to travel, especially short distances, like from your house to the store or to small towns. So, trains isn’t really the solution to this problem, due to that they need more space to slow down to a stop, about a mile, then a car would need to come to a complete stop.
      Another problem is that the government has to deal with a lot of private properties, like people’s personal homes and businesses, since the government doesn’t really own that land. In countries like China and Japan, the government actually owns those lands and all the people are just renting the land from the government for their private homes or businesses. So, it’s way easier for China or Japan to build train tracks, then the US.

    • @remicaron3191
      @remicaron3191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@spottedtime I guess you think car ride in air? We already have all of the property we need and more. We call them highways and roads. As for going to the store we also have legs and bikes. And as for the China and Japan comment I'll reply with Europe. But if you want to think that everyone needs to be driven to the front door of anywhere they please without walking more than 50 step to get inside I guess we will have to kill off most of the humans on Earth. I hope we aren't one of them but who knows. I own a car and I wish I didn't have to but theirs no other way because PROFITS.

    • @spottedtime
      @spottedtime 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@remicaron3191 you do realize that school’s don’t properly educate students on the environmental impact that humans are having on this planet, considering I didn’t fully knew how bad humans are to the planet, until I started my biology degree in college and I went to public schools.
      I remember in elementary school only getting a small tree to take home to plant, every Earth Day. We never got information on how bad humans are to the environment and how we can help fix it.
      Also most of these big decisions are based on how the government decides and the government will side more with big companies, that make things like cars and airplanes, due to lobbying being a thing to throw money at the government to make these decisions go in the direction that is favorable for that company. Considering there is a lot of stuff I wished get changed in the US, like free health care and better prices on medicines.

    • @remicaron3191
      @remicaron3191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spottedtime well STOP VOTING unless they offer something for you and if they don’t DON’T VOTE FOR THEM. We are the government stop giving them legitimacy and things will change.

    • @oliverwilson11
      @oliverwilson11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@spottedtime
      You think people aren't educated about environmental impacts but you're saying cars are a superior way to travel? That doesn't add up to me. Have you ever been to a city that actually has good public transport? I'm not judging you if you haven't, I'm just saying it's possible and it's a real perspective shift when you experience it

  • @ricardasist
    @ricardasist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is absolutely fascinating

  • @concrete_dog
    @concrete_dog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You want a solution to traffic? How about more public transport!

    • @100200songlin
      @100200songlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Public transit can only goes so far. It must be a 2 way approach.

    • @concrete_dog
      @concrete_dog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@100200songlin I know, I agree. I don't think vehicular traffic is bad per se. I'm just saying that having more public transport could fix a lot of the problems we're having with traffic right now. And yes, smarter cars also help us towards that goal.

  • @blu0065
    @blu0065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So you're telling me that we're using AI to solve problems that were created by suburbanization and car dependence

    • @joetilman7227
      @joetilman7227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I bet if they include alternative forms of transportation in the information they feed the AI, that it might tell them to stop building inefficient single occupant automobiles.

    • @KRYMauL
      @KRYMauL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joetilman7227 The actual solution is easy, but distinctly not American because America is stuck in the 1950s. Trains are considered a relic of the past that united the country and we can now live in the suburban with the wonders of the automobile.

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong7655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe mandate all new cars to have vehicle-to-vehicle communications so they can syncronize speed.

    • @chrishuhn5065
      @chrishuhn5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not only to sync speeds. Cars arriving at a ramp or acceleration lane could announce themselve long before they get there. Other cars could open up a space for the arriving car by small speed adjustments ahead of time, that passengers probably wouldn't mind or even notice. Easiest zipper merge ever.

    • @Feribrat99
      @Feribrat99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrishuhn5065 too easy, LOL but yeah I can see that as a tool.

  • @pcongre
    @pcongre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "no one has yet been able to solve traffic with science"
    Is this a sponsored video?
    I don't think you mentioned urbanism/public transport/walking/bikes even once

  • @mathisfun774
    @mathisfun774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would also like to see research that makes traffic control systems (i.e., traffic lights) more intelligent. Raise your hand if you are annoyed when you are stopped at a red light when there is no cross traffic. Also, I have a concern that aggressive drivers will find a paradise if a majority of vehicles are automated, following the speed limit and leaving ample space between cars.

  • @anarchyantz1564
    @anarchyantz1564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If Murica adopted this thing called Roundabouts then it solves a lot of issues. Also your car firms in Murica have been shown to lobby against public transport, working and efficient trains and many other things.

    • @PRDreams
      @PRDreams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love roundabouts. Massachusetts has quite a bit of them. I prefer them.

    • @anarchyantz1564
      @anarchyantz1564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PRDreams Mythbusters also proved them way more efficient and less prone to accident as well. Sweden have also introduced a design as well for buses to go straight through the middle of it as well to reduce accidents. Glad Massachusetts has seen the light!

    • @KRYMauL
      @KRYMauL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem is no one in the US knows to just enter it, but yes roundabouts are better than four way intersections.

  • @dhindaravrel8712
    @dhindaravrel8712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The solution to traffic jams isn't AI, just as much as it isn't more roads. We'll just fill up to capacity again and will be back to square one.
    The solution to traffic jams is good public transport and a good bicycle infrastructure. Don't build cities around the car but make sure people can ride their bicycles safely by creating car-free zones and protected lanes. Make sure only those people who really need to drive will do so.

    • @oliverwilson11
      @oliverwilson11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This

    • @DoubleOhSilver
      @DoubleOhSilver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I couldn't agree more! Road infrastructure is a money sink anyway and looks hideous, as do the big box stores it creates

    • @joetilman7227
      @joetilman7227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What? Two ton boxes requiring hundreds of square feet of storage at every destination and miles of lineal feet of asphalt between in order to transport individual bipeds a couple of miles in air conditioned comfort is wasteful and destructive in pretty much every way possible? If only there were alternative forms of transportation that existed that were more efficient and healthier for both individuals and societies, like...well...almost literally every other form of transportation out there. Huh. Yeah. 🤔👍😉

  • @hafizajiaziz8773
    @hafizajiaziz8773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Traffic is the best example of "Tragedy of the Common"

  • @Way2Death
    @Way2Death 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wrote my diploma about vehicle to X communication. At least in Europe people are working on standardizing communication and we even have some test sectors. Sad to hear that we might get another standard in other countries again (like for example charging standards)

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I feel the same. At least with digital (not hardware) standards you usually get devices that just follow all standards after a period of time. But I want my next car to have V2X if it’s feasible. Even if just to help them test infrastructure, but also hopefully get some cool stuff about.. at the very least, traffic light timing and so forth, out of the deal in the future.

    • @blu0065
      @blu0065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never mind that something as simple as tail lights have to be redesigned for both the EU and US markets because we can't homologate lights

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blu0065 to be fair, EU tail lights are allowed in the USA, a few cars have the same in both. It’s just because the USA allows elimination of specialised indicators a lot of the automakers do it because they think it looks better.

    • @blu0065
      @blu0065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaitlyn__L we allow the blinky rapid braking light?

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blu0065 oh, I’m just talking about the physical layout. That part is software. TBH I didn’t know you had a rule against that. Here that’s how you know when someone’s ABS is going.

  • @MaskedNozza
    @MaskedNozza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this realisation many years ago, that once we stop owning our own cars, just having fleets of automated Uber cars in cities, that it would solve traffic because the cars would be able to communicate with each other and react much faster and more consistently than humans ever could. This video was not news to me, but still good to see that there are maybe more temporary and immediate implementations of AI being worked on to solve the problem sooner

  • @Alexander-is9jo
    @Alexander-is9jo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    CGP Gray made a video about this and how autonomous cars will decrease traffic.

  • @mgkwyat9097
    @mgkwyat9097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video justify my driving that keeps 20 feet from the front car in traffic in order to avoid pressing break

  • @steviesosa5617
    @steviesosa5617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Maybe add the AI (FLOW) to people's cars, who are prone to driving under the influence of drugs/alcohol first. This, in addition to the ignition interlock device may prevent many accident's caused by inebriated driver's. Which in turn saves lives and cuts down on traffic caused by medical emergencies.

    • @CatatonicImperfect
      @CatatonicImperfect 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      idk. having cars both sometimes obey drivers' commands and sometimes ignore them sounds like a recipe for disaster.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CatatonicImperfect we already have that with automatic collision prevention systems. Governments and manufacturers are building frameworks for systems where cars can swerve or brake to avoid obstacles whilst otherwise still leaving driving up to you. The proposal is that a car capable of driving itself, and therefore capable of assessing the safety or acceptability of manoeuvres, have certain of these behaviours active even when the car is in manual drive mode, so long as it was on a public street (not a track). So it’s definitely gonna happen sooner or later. And then a decade or two after that they will probably outlaw driving any vehicles without such capabilities; vintage cars may need to have some reversible crap installed, etc.

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Given all this, it’s extra ironic how many drivers honk angrily at Tesla autopilot drivers for not speeding... when following the rules improves the experience for everyone (who would’ve guessed?)

  • @00crashtest
    @00crashtest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad they featured the MacArthur Maze extensively in this video! That's a huge chokepoint for the Bay Area.

  • @jontelling
    @jontelling 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone who's been driving a while knows why the stop start driving just keeps going, that moment you try to smooth out the speed and distance, is the moment someone from another lane goes in the gap. But we can always try. :)

  • @soapyshoes
    @soapyshoes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about busses? Like, just have more busses?

  • @delulu4996
    @delulu4996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so awesome!

  • @Jompe69
    @Jompe69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When AI of these cars becomes self-aware they realize how inefficient cars are and stop working completely lol

  • @Jcewazhere
    @Jcewazhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yet another reason to drive electric. While you're sitting in traffic in most gas cars your engine is still spitting out exhaust. Plus the regen braking in an EV is great for stop and go traffic.

  • @tygrallure6895
    @tygrallure6895 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Answering the question. I think I'm a pretty great driver. I'm a professional driver with a CDL class A license. I have driven the 48 States for over five years. I've driven through numerous weather conditions and terrains changes.
    With all the information that one needs to guage the health of roadway conditions, it is impossible to know what the best decision to choose because there is so much information to decipher. A computer can be connected to all of that information and would be current on the most update information out. With that a driver can then choose an efficient route to get to point b more smoothly

  • @obamabinladen6679
    @obamabinladen6679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    European and Asian Train Systems: *Hi!*

  • @ryanchan6122
    @ryanchan6122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Using AI cars is just like adding more car lanes to the roadway. Sure it will improve efficiency and reduce pollution at first. But you failed to take into account the human passenger(s) who will flock to any mode of transportation that is the fastest. There are studies that show that increasing road capacity results in increased road congestion.
    The solution is to reduce road capacity and reduce traffic speed. Replace the missing roads with other modes of transport that requires less space than the traditional car such as rail, bikes, buses, and etc.

    • @KRYMauL
      @KRYMauL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The thing is though cars lobby congress, so buses would be the best bet. However, the public buses need to be given a newer and cleaner image. Also, as easy as it to say that rail is key no state government seems to actually take rail seriously and only really use it for publicity. The only ones I actually have faith in are Acela, Virgin Trains, and the Central Texas Railroad the other lines are more akin to job creation than actual rail lines.

  • @dejayrezme8617
    @dejayrezme8617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty amazing development. Very good video, thanks!
    But I think robotaxis are the real future. Autonomous cars that drive the two passengers in a thin car face to face.

  • @UNIQUENAME2007
    @UNIQUENAME2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take the bus, stop mining the world for trivial measures of convenience.

  • @0HARE
    @0HARE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m so ready for this.
    I say bring on the automation.

  • @rimckd825
    @rimckd825 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OUTSTANDING vid.

  • @TheyCallMeNewb
    @TheyCallMeNewb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's be clear, there's ever an impetus to fill in any gap forming in front of us for fear that another in the neighbouring lane will take it upon themselves to move in to it.

  • @0ptera
    @0ptera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As long as there's no law to only allow automated vehicles there will be morons in Audis driving right on your bumper begging to be break checked back into reality.

  • @Mp57navy
    @Mp57navy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heh. Don't need automated cars for that. I hate braking. If i'm in a 1-lane, and see people constantly breaking and accelerating in front of me, I go slower than them to smooth it out. I'm just lazy.

  • @forrestihler504
    @forrestihler504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful video

  • @thefreshest2379
    @thefreshest2379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most efficient way is going the speed of the car in front of you and the average distance of the car behind you

  • @hueykratos
    @hueykratos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audi and Renault said they have the tech for level 4 autonomous cars ready, but the regulations are slow to change so they can't implement it. Progress is once again slowed by bureaucracy.

  • @NeonsStyleHD
    @NeonsStyleHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An AI trying to guide humans from it's behaviour won't work because if it slows because of average road speed, then humans will just go around it to catch up to the car in front (stupid behaviour btw). The only way is all cars having an ability to switch on AI control. Then all cars can drive within car length of others and human caused traffic will disappear.

  • @平和-v1z
    @平和-v1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I have the outro track please?

    • @mimischiffman626
      @mimischiffman626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pathfinder on APM - the 'minimal mix'

    • @平和-v1z
      @平和-v1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mimischiffman626 Thank you! ^^

  • @RobinOttens
    @RobinOttens 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ok, but what if instead of forcing people to hand over control to the computer, we add a little indicator to the dashboard or GPS navigation to show what speed the computer recommends you should be driving at.
    People already blindly follow the computers advice for directions. If you want 1 in 10 cars to have their speed controlled by AI, give drivers the illusion that they are still in control. But nudge them to drive at the right speed indirectly. Have a nice lady voice tell you to slow down or speed up.
    I think that has a better chance of succeeding and being implemented within the decade, than waiting for fully automated vehicles to finally hit the market.

  • @davidruiz8689
    @davidruiz8689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We should start by adding this technology to transport trucks and cars built after a certain year and allow the technology to be installed into older cars. This way we could get rid of traffic.

  • @CamiloSantana
    @CamiloSantana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People are jerks. Robots are not.

  • @Pk-hs9qw
    @Pk-hs9qw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much cheaper option is to adopt cycle as much as possible, like Netherlands did.

  • @punker4Real
    @punker4Real 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Free public transportation would solve the traffic problem

  • @humanrightsadvocate
    @humanrightsadvocate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to live in a world where fatal car accidents are caused by automated vehicles. Because, such car accidents will get investigated in a problem solving way and not just to place the blame.

  • @benoit.b9337
    @benoit.b9337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just worry about people who do not maintain their autonomous vehicles.

  • @Scrogan
    @Scrogan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am expecting that in the near future, a lot of the lessons we’ve learned from self-driving cars will be used to make manual driving safer and more efficient. Momentum-aware smart safety systems that prevent you from overcorrecting when swerving out of the way, traffic monitoring cameras that ensure it’s safe to pull out even if you can’t see past a packed lane full of cars, maybe even ice driving assistance that controls the accelerator for you to ensure you stay in your lane and keep full traction. This extended cruise control is only the tip of the iceberg.

  • @vahlte
    @vahlte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What kinds of rewards do AI look for? And what punishments are used? This sounds truly spooky.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s literally just points like in a video game. You tell the program to find ways to make the number go up. You program in point gains and point losses. This isn’t restricted just to driving, it’s just a method of training neural networks. We can adjust the points by checking on their progress. For instance Tesla’s system works on a basis whereby every time the driver takes over, it loses points on the assumption the driver had to do it for safety reasons. They don’t program in the specific action that loses points, but rather the reaction from the driver is what does it.

    • @vahlte
      @vahlte 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaitlyn__L That's really cool! To me it sounded as if they had almost created a brain in a vat that they fed dopamine or stimulated pain in, according to what they wanted it to do.

  • @voxelemur
    @voxelemur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One car can eliminate traffic waves for miles by simply keeping more space in front, letting cars merge and averaging the speed of the wave in front. If more people practiced this, you wouldn't have any phantom waves. Too bad everyone's selfish as all hell on the road.

    • @Feribrat99
      @Feribrat99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You nailed the problem.

  • @coopergelb9914
    @coopergelb9914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Public transit like trains and buses is a better, and more immediate, solution to traffic!

  • @adamhill1419
    @adamhill1419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "A clear correlation between accidents and congestion"
    Um... yeah. Have you ever known a freeway crash to not cause congestion?

    • @Miriam26895
      @Miriam26895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think he meant that congestion causes more accidents.

    • @lake9
      @lake9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a chicken and egg problem - accidents cause congestion, but congestion also leads to more accidents

    • @FelipeKana1
      @FelipeKana1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he meant congestion as air pollution

  • @bytefu
    @bytefu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fully automated transportation is the solution to all traffic problems. Relying on people is never good.

    • @Alexander-is9jo
      @Alexander-is9jo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's be honest. We're pretty bad at a ton of things, specially if we need efficiency and synchrony

    • @oliverwilson11
      @oliverwilson11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roads would still have a maximum capacity, it would just be a bit higher. Roads with cars aren't good for high capacity transportation anyway. They provide a good best case travel time, but they don't provide a good average case on busy routes.

    • @Alexander-is9jo
      @Alexander-is9jo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oliverwilson11 but don't forget that cars spend most of their time parked. That's a huge waste of space.

    • @bytefu
      @bytefu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliverwilson11 Not just a bit higher though, more like 3-5 times higher, and you would also get to the destination much faster.

    • @oliverwilson11
      @oliverwilson11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume three times higher is with a centralised control system controlling 100% of cars on the road? If you're going to rebuild things that radically then it's worth asking whether single occupancy 5 seater cars make sense as a default mode of transport (they don't)

  • @bobthegoat7090
    @bobthegoat7090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have the US ever heard of trains or public transport?

    • @Sol-Invictus
      @Sol-Invictus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Public transit is looked down on in the US. It's for the poor and desperate not something to spend money improving. Why do you think we have hidden tent cities of hundreds or thousands across the country.

  • @Neceros
    @Neceros 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been saying this for decades. get on it, humans

  • @MrGrombie
    @MrGrombie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably not, but can a computer replicate my need for speed? I think not....
    Also, they will need to put weight monitors on the back of vehicles with parts on them that can fly off. Until the computer is smart enough to recognize that, I'd rather have control of my vehicle. And even then.... I may still prefer it, due to potential hackers.

  • @nertis2408
    @nertis2408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Solutions are well known : walkable cities, efficient public transport and bike lanes to offer people the choice to give up their car...
    Science won't help because if you solve traffic, then even more people will drive so eventually traffic is back, always.

  • @drbendover7467
    @drbendover7467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, but it only takes a moment to take your drivers license out of a cereal box:)

  • @misaelramos83
    @misaelramos83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for automated vehicles to make transit safer and more efficient!

  • @benjaminshropshire2900
    @benjaminshropshire2900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You don't need AI to do this. I've personalty done it by hand: to avoid passing out from boredom while stuck in stop-n-go traffic I have on many occasions played the game of seeing how little I can vary my speed. Accelerate much more slowly than whoever is ahead of me, watching traffic several cars ahead and break more softly (and earlier) than them. With a little effort I can drive with *relatively* little variation in speed. And as often as not, the next person behind me would start doing the same (either that or they thought I was a nutcase and were keeping their distance) with the result of them being able to drive even more smoothly. (Well, admittedly it works better in some places than other.)
    While I wound't have any fundamental issue with tossing AI at this problem in the real world, the thought of tossing software out in public, in control to multi ton objects and then connecting that to a network? That terrifies me. The first version will be totally full of bugs and exploitable security vulnerabilities. I give it less than a year before someone figures out how to trigger gridlock with less than $200 in radio gear. With luck it will be a researcher and the bugs will be in the implementations, not the protocol it self. At the other end the protocol could be broken from the start in a way that can't be fixed without removing all the vehicles that use it. And if things allow over the air updates? Some of that code will be so bad that it will allow a malicious actor to take over and get enough access to kill people.

  • @AtheistEve
    @AtheistEve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m tired of waiting for the future.

  • @25jessieg
    @25jessieg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    People are dumb on the roads. Drive from Austin to San Antonio any day of the week to see how bad and selfish we are. We would find a way to screw this up.

  • @banjodanko3083
    @banjodanko3083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's bad merging and bad following distance and bad exiting and bad truckers.

  • @Sivah_Akash
    @Sivah_Akash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thinking about emissions, AI may actually increase emissions by making private vehicle driving more pleasing.

  • @skybluskyblueify
    @skybluskyblueify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great group of ideas but some kinds of politicians can make all of this seem like terrifying dystopian nightmare if they leave out some pertinent facts and the motivations behind all of this. I guess they could twist anything to scare their voters no matter what, eh? I hope we can leave them all behind.

  • @garywu_8
    @garywu_8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This will take a looooooong time to implement, even if everyone had a tesla. We need vehicles with no steering wheel to become the norm for efficient vehicle to vehicle communication efficient highways.

  • @marc_frank
    @marc_frank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:08 the automated car didn't follow one of the rules, if they were the same
    "drive at a given pace and maintain their distances with the vehicle in front of them"

  • @FelipeKana1
    @FelipeKana1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, another great reason why people should NEVER TAILGATE. Yet there are even more obvious and even selfish reasons to not tailgate and those don't stop people either...

  • @Lildizzle420
    @Lildizzle420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    these arguments are bunk, you're never going to have a sterile environment where traffic is smooth. we need transit improvements

  • @LePedant
    @LePedant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You slow down really quick by just letting off the gas. Think about when you stick your hand out the window, all of that air is pushing your car back too.

  • @eeeeeek
    @eeeeeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can pay $50/month for traffic priority

  • @hgoodman9
    @hgoodman9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All this research when public transportation is just staring at us…

  • @riccardofusco624
    @riccardofusco624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    use more trains ......

  • @givingtree9619
    @givingtree9619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AI > less car dependency. For some reason. Maybe rocket scientists shouldn’t be hyped

  • @fischid
    @fischid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry, but if human nature is not part of the equation, then it will not be viable. He's suggesting removing the human from the picture. As an engineer, I think they'll find that as reality doesn't quite fit their models, they'll insist on a higher and higher proportion of AI driven vehicles, until they are all AI. There's more to traveling in cars than the physical movement. There's the psychological need, at least for many, to have some autonomy from being socially channeled into behaving like a herd animal. There's the customization of your environment at least for a few hours a day. This is why the public transportation we're familiar with will never be first choice for the commuting public. Perhaps the final solution will be all autonomous vehicles, but then we're going to have a long, long wait. I just don't believe they're on the right track (pardon the pun).

  • @apartofthewhole6639
    @apartofthewhole6639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But what if we just had better drivers training? Or if we didn't have an economic system that punishes lateness?

  • @connor5890
    @connor5890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best solution is to use trains and buses

  • @michaelwagner2501
    @michaelwagner2501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Her3 you go heavy footers 🤣🙄 knew it but they confirmed 👍

  • @SolaceEasy
    @SolaceEasy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These scientists were working for years on improving VHS and Beta, even after laser discs and Blu-ray were invented.

    • @SolaceEasy
      @SolaceEasy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And this is a very good place to run drones compared to wilderness areas.

    • @SolaceEasy
      @SolaceEasy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Codify morality in preparation for the coming AI singularity.

  • @jnzkngs
    @jnzkngs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The main point of this is not safety or efficiency, the point is to make vehicles obsolete much quicker so that they need to be replaced more often while also making them a lot more expensive. This keeps the poor and middle class poorer while increasing the wealth of the people borrowing them the money to buy robot chauffeured private luxury pods.

  • @Ganymede1001
    @Ganymede1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost died today from idiot people coming to a stop on a downhill slope near downtown Houston 😐😐😐😐😐😐

  • @JayBenOh
    @JayBenOh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think privacy is a point that also makes this matter more difficult.

    • @keriezy
      @keriezy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What privacy? Your car has a blackbox and you carry a phone.

    • @brazghost
      @brazghost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not only practice but also cyber attacks, causing bigger accidents. Making an open system may cause a lot of vulnerabilities.

    • @whatablissfullife
      @whatablissfullife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Privacy is gone already, gotta smartphone?

    • @thiagomarques3036
      @thiagomarques3036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brazghost I don't see cyber attacks being a huge issue because the cars wouldn't be taking commands from the outside. the whole point of this is having AI built into the vehicles and have it make decisions based on info from the outside as well as info it collects itself from various sensors and cameras in said vehicle.. cyber attacks could slow down traffic, yeah, but big accidents, not really.. this system would operate much like blockchain. targeting the whole is pretty much impossible and targeting one entity wouldn't be of much use

    • @JayBenOh
      @JayBenOh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@whatablissfullife And that's a reason to stop all efforts on preserving privacy?

  • @zachsimmons1860
    @zachsimmons1860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don’t city’s pay random drivers to act like shepherds and they drive slower and guide the flow of traffic

  • @ApashePelican
    @ApashePelican 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love this the problem is that the program isn't taken into account dumb people so basically saying in this scenario word you merge for lighting to two and then to one as soon as there's a gap between the beat car say intelligent cars there's going to be people trying to bypass those cars and you break the system, because now the lead car, isn't on the lead

  • @LazloVimes
    @LazloVimes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Altruism, collaboration, cooperatively… (sigh) so not in the US :(

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
    @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is needed on backroads I live on a back road where everyone speeds by and oversized trucks travel they think there competing on Talladega I have to cross the road to get the mail they won' stop for me at all and the police/sheriff highway patrol also whizz by while watching me wait

  • @iantinley2779
    @iantinley2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Ethan Hunt part of the team?

  • @crazypilot4017
    @crazypilot4017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about reprogram traffic lights, to help with traffic? I've seen lights in downtown that randomly turn red when there is no other traffic around...and so you sit there for no reason at all...

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s such an annoying thing. Thankfully I’ve seen more and more traffic lights with cameras on that can tell. I don’t know if it was strictly a real thing or just placebo but my brother would always flash his high beams at night in such a situation and it would make the light go green in a second or two.

  • @Wild_Maryland
    @Wild_Maryland 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this will never work because someone is always trying to go 30+ mph over the limit.

  • @jasona7029
    @jasona7029 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    no sh*t, they cruising and slamming on the brake

  • @banjodanko3083
    @banjodanko3083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If school taught things like this hmmm