What if Sora Died in KH1? (A Kingdom Hearts Alternate History)

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    Music used (in order):
    "Magical Mystery" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
    "End of the World" from Kingdom Hearts (2002)
    "Captain Hook's Pirate Ship" from Kingdom Hearts (2002)
    "The 13th Floor" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories (2007)
    "Riku" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
    "The Silent Forest" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (2010)
    "Piccolo Resto" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories (2007)
    "Aqua" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (2010)
    "Night in the Dark Dream" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix (2011)
    "Mickey Mouse Club March" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
    "Aqua (Dark Dive)" from Kingdom Hearts III (2019)
    "The Nightmare" from Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance (2012)
    "Laughter and Merriment" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
    "The Nightmare"
    "Kairi" from Kingdom Hearts (2002)
    "Link to All" from Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance (2012)
    "Innocent Times" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (2010)

ความคิดเห็น • 537

  • @RegularPat
    @RegularPat  3 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    I'm just gonna get out in front of this because I forgot to add an annotation when editing: I know the spell is cast on the necklace itself, but y'know, she's wearing the necklace at all times so it may as well have been cast on her. If I turn into a disembodied heart, I think whatever magical spells I had on the clothes I was wearing at the time should transfer over to me. That is all :)

    • @liamurness302
      @liamurness302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I honestly didnt notice

    • @simonacannizzo5141
      @simonacannizzo5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just curious, but would the scene where Peter Pan says ‘just a little bit of pixie dust, there now you can fly’ not be included on the timeline?

    • @liamurness302
      @liamurness302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@simonacannizzo5141 maybe he lied?

    • @simonacannizzo5141
      @simonacannizzo5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@liamurness302 I don’t think so, dust and happy thoughts are part of the Peter Pan universe as necessary for flight. I know SquareEnix respects the rules of the stories included in the game. Therefore that scene in the game needs to be cut out in order for Sora to die as Ticktock’s meal.

    • @liamurness302
      @liamurness302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@simonacannizzo5141 yeah who knows, let pat have his fun minipulating the kh universe

  • @ProtoStan
    @ProtoStan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +981

    Can't wait for the riveting sequel of "What if Roxas fell off the clock tower and broke his neck"

    • @blackghostcat
      @blackghostcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Wouldn't nothing happen to him because he was in a simulation at the time? Or are you talking in 358 days?

    • @BiggusNickus
      @BiggusNickus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      "now who will I have ice-cream with?"

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Riku:"We have a problem."
      Ansem the wise:"What?"
      Riku:"Roxas tripped and died. That means he cannot transfer himself back to Sora anymore."
      Ansem the wise:"....."
      Riku:"What do we do now?"

    • @obiwan8934
      @obiwan8934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Axel: bad news and good news xemnas what do you want to hear first xemnas: bad news axel: roxas is dead xemnas: and the good news? Axel: sora can never wake up xemnas well guess that's the bright side

    • @LuichiTaco
      @LuichiTaco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes lol

  • @krowking123
    @krowking123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    I’m just imagining like..
    Xemnas strolling up to Aqua nobody and realizing who’s nobody she is gives her the name Quaax just to troll the shit outta her

    • @maijucarina113
      @maijucarina113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Pronounced Quaack-key 😂

  • @NoraQRosa
    @NoraQRosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +656

    Now let's be fair, this definitely wouldn't be Sora's first time being devoured by aquatic life. That crocodile definitely has a world in its belly.

    • @DavidRamirez-se2yt
      @DavidRamirez-se2yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Comes out lvl 99

    • @michaelkindt3288
      @michaelkindt3288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@DavidRamirez-se2yt-.- *Lv100.
      Unless you’re suggesting he comes out just sort of Max level, which would be funny.

    • @Ken-ru6or
      @Ken-ru6or 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@michaelkindt3288 that's an honest mistake since you can be lvl 100 in like two games out of like fifty now

    • @mageyplss
      @mageyplss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It'd be too small

    • @Nightout88
      @Nightout88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i mean "canonically" he did just get eaten right before this world.
      by a whale that flys though space.

  • @edgeofultima7483
    @edgeofultima7483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    I've always wondered how Kingdom Hearts 1 would go if Donald had let Riku on the Gummi ship

    • @dekuisagreatmaincharacter
      @dekuisagreatmaincharacter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      STOP GIVING HIM IDEAS!!!

    • @nicoexists
      @nicoexists 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes

    • @Not_Alanius
      @Not_Alanius ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thinking about this, if Donald wasn't such a dick to Riku and did let him o the Gummi Ship, his turn to the darkness most likely would be delayed until Hollow Bastion if we want the plot structure to be somewhat untouched (though like, half of Monstro would be pointless and the Parasite Cage would be spared). If we want to go all the way with Riku getting accepted, then:
      -his ties to the darkness would be very minor, only being a visit from cloaked Ansem at that point
      -Riku's Keyblade would be Sora's Kingdom Key because of lacking the "Anti-Keyblade" darkness eviction notice (oh, and Sora would be Keyblade-less, I guess)
      -his entire story route in COM would be less focused on getting over the darkness (as he'd most likely fail to manifest Soul Eater) and he'd propably just focus on finding Sora
      -skipping towards the events of 358/2 days, because of not having power over the darkness to access his Ansem transformation, he'd fail to defeat Roxas and take him to sim-Twilight Town. That would cause Sora's awakening to be prompted a near failure until DiZ does his "Anti-Nobody" comments at Roxas at best, and Sora would just be forever asleep in his pod as Roxas hangs around Twilight Town, living out his own life at worst
      -assuming Sora would awaken in time for KH2, there'd be no emotional scene with Sora finding out that Riku looks like Ansem
      -Repliku will not exist due to Vexen not finding Riku's ties to the darkness note-worthy
      I think that's it? Do let me know if there's more to this or I made multiple mistkes writing this back-to-back.

    • @AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs
      @AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Not_Alaniuswe never get dark Riku in KH3? Sounds like the better timeline to me

    • @Not_Alanius
      @Not_Alanius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs Honestly revisiting my origional comment and considering more details (like Namine's and Roxas' existance being revoked by lack of the Sora sacrefice in Hollow Bastion due to the Keyblade of Heart not existing), this might not be as good of a timeline as we think? If Dark Riku no longer exists, one of either Demyx or Vexen would never be benched, and considering Vexen's character of becoming a pseudo-Ienzo while betraying the True Org., it means we'd be presented with more Dance Water Dance's...

  • @MissingNovice
    @MissingNovice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Okay, the "Roxas no longer exists and is replaced by Quaax!" bit made me break out into giggles for an incredibly long period of time.

  • @Mystika
    @Mystika 3 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    well by sephiroth's logic, the crocodile would become a keyblade wielder after showing its greater power and would then go about sealing the keyholes in the realm of light

  • @BarnabusBarbarossa
    @BarnabusBarbarossa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    Do Donald and Goofy at least avenge Sora by killing that crocodile and turning it into a handbag for Daisy?

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      Regular Pat's Crocodile Timeline: PETA hates it!!

    • @grapeful9933
      @grapeful9933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      BRUH AHAHHAHAHAHA

    • @CaptainCJ97
      @CaptainCJ97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Going full god of war there

    • @Buffbuffrules
      @Buffbuffrules 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, I think Ven and Kairi would pop out of Sora and revenge him.

  • @krowking123
    @krowking123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    Peter Pan: “Fly Sora! Just believe, and you can do it!”
    Sora: “... Okay I believe you!” *Jumps to his death.*
    Peter Pan: “HA, FORGOT THE PIXIE DUST LOOSER!”

    • @Gore6194ever
      @Gore6194ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Donald and Goofy kill Peter Pan for sure.

    • @liamurness302
      @liamurness302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "Ok i believe you"

    • @BigBossMan538
      @BigBossMan538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Peter just doomed his world unknowingly

    • @simonacannizzo5141
      @simonacannizzo5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I know it is a joke but how can you know you forgot the pixie dust, w/out someone telling you?

    • @liamurness302
      @liamurness302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@simonacannizzo5141 knowing after the "accident"

  • @m0ncherii
    @m0ncherii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Guess the power of friendship doesn't affect Crocodiles

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Crocodiles don't care about friendship. They just want to eat.

    • @sigurdtheblue
      @sigurdtheblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Crocodiles have a single function - bite. Because of this, there is nothing that impacts the logic or morality surrounding them.

    • @Buffbuffrules
      @Buffbuffrules 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless your bribing the croc into friendship, then it works…

  • @TheKeyblader133
    @TheKeyblader133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Can't wait to see the Namine Redesign where she has purple hair

    • @ShadowAgent94
      @ShadowAgent94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Just purple or do you think she'd have another color in it too? Either way, Namine with purple hair sounds super cool.

    • @jaydeejay4166
      @jaydeejay4166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Namine with a tall lanky body

    • @ReptilianTeaDrinker
      @ReptilianTeaDrinker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@jaydeejay4166 Namine with a six pack. lol

    • @michaelkindt3288
      @michaelkindt3288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I like these Namine head-cannons.🙂

    • @uknownada
      @uknownada 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's a fact that Namine looks a little like Sora; his body was used to create Namine (Secret Ansem Report 12, KH2). Their faces look identical, but Namine's body is pretty different from Sora. She's got little toothpick fingers while Sora has massive low-polygon early PS2 square fingers. So because of that, I've always had the assumption that Namine looked 100% like Sora until he actually got his body back when Kairi hugged his heartless. When that happened, Namine's body morphed to resemble more like Kairi's since she was born from her heart. In a way, she looks like a combination of both characters, like she's her daughter.
      I say this because if Aqua was in Sora's place then for the brief period, Namine (whose name means "wave" which is an aquatic thing fun fact) would look like the tall blueberry lady, but then morph down to Kairi's size and bodytype while retaining Aqua's face. And she'd probably look like if Aqua and Kairi somehow had a daughter, I guess.
      By the way: That first fact I mentioned technically means Namine is canonically a trans character. Some people might like that.

  • @joeyjose727
    @joeyjose727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Aqua’s duck nobody really came out of left field, I think she needed more spotlight

    • @nerosoul2506
      @nerosoul2506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      more like left pond

  • @JonathanQShrimpling
    @JonathanQShrimpling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Riku and Aqua fighting at the Crumbling Islands unused room is my new alternative-universe headcannon

  • @verdragon5591
    @verdragon5591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    4:16 I think it'd be hilarious if Beast frees the remaining Dalmatians by ripping the chests holding them in half, just to see if Belle was hidden in one of them, because he's desperate, he's been through a lot, he just warped through Gummi Space from a world that presumably doesn't exist anymore using pure angst, I think he'd be _just_ mentally exhausted enough to deceive himself into thinking Belle might be in one of these chests that, realistically, would be too small to contain her.

  • @numbug1234
    @numbug1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I love how all the rest of March Caprice (which Caprice apparently means sudden change of mind???) have serious sounding titles for their videos, but then yours (in the list at least) is literally just "yo what if this random as fuck crocodile ate him"
    Like seriously, you must have deliberately chosen the most anti-climatic moment to kill off Sora possible, hahah.

  • @NoraQRosa
    @NoraQRosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Regular Pat:
    Also Pat: hey what if Sora got vore-a'd

    • @Buffbuffrules
      @Buffbuffrules 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me: what if I ate the crocodile.
      (Trust me I’ve thought of some weird things before… this isn’t the first…)

  • @krossel9235
    @krossel9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Imagine all the organization's members inside the castle oblivion preparing for Sora to come, and then Aqua shows up and restores The Land of Departure. This scene would be comedy gold

    • @jacksonwww5
      @jacksonwww5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Imagine Aqua defeating everyone at once in the process of transforming from Castle Oblivion to Land of Departure, lol

    • @jacksonwww5
      @jacksonwww5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Speedrun strats

    • @caldw615
      @caldw615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@jacksonwww5 The fact Aqua is more in line with Sora in KH3 in terms of strength is just funny as it makes basically every Organization member seem super weak by comparison. They're not dealing with a newby Keyblade user nor one who just lost their powers/memories, they're fighting an endgame Keyblade master who'd steamroll them all.

    • @supreme_king_obama1158
      @supreme_king_obama1158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@caldw615 unless for some godforsaken reason leaving the realm of darkness leaves you metroided. But that’s stupid and it would be lame if he did that.

    • @mid-boss6461
      @mid-boss6461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@supreme_king_obama1158And level 1 Aqua would probably be still more dangerous, especially after getting her levels back in Disney worlds.

  • @heartless2147
    @heartless2147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The image of Quaax as a duck got me thinking, how does a Nobody of an animal person work? Scar becomes a Heartless in KH2 but keeps his original form, the only change is the fact he can use magic now. Wouldn't that mean he also creates a Nobody? If so, then would the Nobody be a lion, anthro lion, or human version of Scar? I imagine it would be hard to find an Organization cloak for a 4 legged animal, also it would look ridiculous.

  • @Joan-jq5ho
    @Joan-jq5ho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Ah yes, when Sora went inside the Crocodile to retrieve Hook's clock and then became best friends with a crocodile.

    • @michaelkindt3288
      @michaelkindt3288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is definitely the most likely outcome.
      Also: Captain Hook’s hand as a boss!

  • @VerumRex
    @VerumRex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I thought you were going to say Sora would be inside the crocodile and have to find his way out like in Monstro, but no Sora just straight up dies. I love how you took it really seriously and really tried to come up with what would happen if Sora died! I think Riku would be like, "Oh man this went too far!" and be really depressed because his two closest friends are dead/in a comma, and his grief would make it easier for Ansem to manipulate him.
    I like that you chose the crocodile to be the thing that kills Sora because there are lots of parts where Sora could have died, but the crocodile is the funniest! I hope you keep going with the Crocodile Timeline! We have to know how/if Sora comes back from the Final World! And Quaax!

  • @tobyjack1238
    @tobyjack1238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    “Great another theory about a turn no one has ever thought about in their entire life.”
    Sees Regular Pat
    “Dis gonna be good.”

  • @saxor96
    @saxor96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    A little fix at the end, Aqua would get them kicked out her house before turning it back to Land of Departure. It's an anti-Darkness mechanism that keeps Ventus safe, so she wouldn't revert it back while some squatters are inside.

    • @tobyjack1238
      @tobyjack1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I just like to imagine the organization members being transported to random rooms in the Land of Departure and being really confused.

    • @michaelkindt3288
      @michaelkindt3288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I didn’t think about that. This doesn’t assume she would know that the organization is in there tho, but it isn’t too hard to imagine a scenario where she figures it out.

    • @mid-boss6461
      @mid-boss6461 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tobyjack1238One second rest in Atlantica, other get randomly moved to toilet.

  • @MrWhatdafuBOOM
    @MrWhatdafuBOOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    _Never smile at a crocodile,_
    _no, you can't get friendly with a crocodile._
    _Don't be taken in by his welcome grin,_
    _he's imagining how well you'd fit within his skin._

  • @ryedj707
    @ryedj707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    That crocodile OP af. Hook wouldn’t even dare fight it.

    • @brianfuentes7021
      @brianfuentes7021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As long as they have a medium of soras and the memory of him he can come back so he technically cant die... easily.

    • @insertnamehere2746
      @insertnamehere2746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're assuming sora wouldnt light its ass up with a fire spell if he had to fight it. He beat far more difficult beings than that croc

  • @28stabwounds60
    @28stabwounds60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Noruma: * flips over desk* OH MY GOD ITS ALL GONE TO SHIIIIIIT!

  • @daseal1479
    @daseal1479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just realized, Aqua also speedruns KH2's final stretch by killing most of the Organization in the Castle Oblivion transformation, crushing them all like that scene in Akira, lmao.
    Scratch that, I guess Axel is the only extra death, as the others weren't in the Castle at that time. My bad.

  • @ryedj707
    @ryedj707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I honestly can’t wait to see how far down the KH iceberg this channel will go.

  • @TheOriginalTraz64
    @TheOriginalTraz64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Interesting. I guess the fact that this is pre-HB would mean maleficent is successful and org13 would only have 12 members.

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      How quickly you forget our friend in the brown robe :)

    • @MrJohnboy3434
      @MrJohnboy3434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@RegularPat
      *looks at KH cast*
      ...Could you narrow that down a bit?

    • @asrieldreemurr1988
      @asrieldreemurr1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrJohnboy3434 there aren’t that many people who have brown coats

    • @tobyjack1238
      @tobyjack1238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can’t wait to play the new spin-off kingdom hearts game where we get to control Quaax for the entire time. They were my favorite character from 2.

    • @Jet_Ink
      @Jet_Ink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrJohnboy3434 the xehanort heart?

  • @Chilemex15
    @Chilemex15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I would have never expected such a fun and also legitimately cool theory starting from a weird "what if" situation like this one... And I was very wrong, I should have known that it was gonna be so great, because Pat was behind it!
    Another amazing video, really. Funny as always and very interesting at the same time, you went the extra mile for this one! Oh, and happy March Caprice!

  • @nanaosei49
    @nanaosei49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I like how you keep referring to the mouse as "Michael" 🤣🤣

  • @BarnabusBarbarossa
    @BarnabusBarbarossa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like how your scenario stayed true to Jiminy being ride or die for Sora. When Sora dies, Jiminy dies.

  • @Rixec2
    @Rixec2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very interesting thought experiment. I wonder what you would do with, say, "What if Sora chose not to have his memories fixed after Chain of Memories?"

  • @thenagito
    @thenagito ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gods I need a sequel to this!

  • @JinxMarionette
    @JinxMarionette 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "King Michael" is the biggest takeaway here

  • @ShadowAgent94
    @ShadowAgent94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And now I want to play the series in this universe or read stories of what this universe might be like.

  • @daseal1479
    @daseal1479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You gotta continue this diverged timeline story, I wanna see how it plays out all the way to 3.

  • @Xpwnxage
    @Xpwnxage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In an alternate universe...
    "What if Sora didn't get eaten by a crocodile in KH1???"

  • @PhantomBones101
    @PhantomBones101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Before the video: this gonna be ridiculous
    After the video:....I gotta hear the rest of this timeline

  • @bitboi3395
    @bitboi3395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    damn i got so exited and when i clicked on it i just see that big " premiere in 37 h"
    ill be ready and have snacks ready for when its finaly time for this badboy to come out

  • @michaelkindt3288
    @michaelkindt3288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Quaax joined the organization (which I don’t see why she wouldn’t, assuming she doesn’t have any memories like Roxes), then there would still be a Xion (whose name would still be Xion, sense “Xion” is canonically an acronym of “No. i” with en “X”, and I don’t see why that would be different in this timeline). Since there’s no reason why Kairi would be among the most special people to Aqua (no offense), Xion would probably look like either Tara or Ventis (and would thus be a male), but with black hair.
    While it’s debatable whether or not Axle befriended Roxas because he looks like Ventis, he seems like the kind of guy to hang out with a Newbi who’s having a hard time, so he could potentially befriend (and be shipped with) Quaax.
    While I think Aqua and Kairi going through Castle Oblivion would be interesting story wise, it would be hard to see why Aqua wouldn’t just un-oblivion the castle, unless of course she wanted Kairi Donald and Goofy to play the card game she designed. Them going through a un-oblivioned could also be interesting tho, since it would be interesting to see how organization XIII adjusts to the change in architecture, and I’m sure if Castle Oblivion and the wizard tower could both be bigger on the inside then surely the Land of Departure could also be a tardis. Not sure what they would do about the Ven, I am sure if Xemnas was there that it would be like: “Secure that body at all cost!” “But y tho?” “Just do it!” Since it’s implied he has some of Tara’s attachments from that scene he has with Aqua’s Aamir, but otherwise they would probably just leave him alone. Not that it matters that much, sense Aqua probably can’t return Ven’s heart to his body while it’s in the Final World, so Ven would still be in a coma.
    Also, sense a blonde person was not in Aqua‘s heart when she became heartless (for all we know), Namine would have blue hair, caz lol.

  • @stephaniehull98
    @stephaniehull98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Not gonna lie, I totally wanna see this turned into a fanfic LOL

  • @whats_up_karl5611
    @whats_up_karl5611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    i can’t believe this is 22 minutes long... best 22 minutes every

  • @lunarghost255
    @lunarghost255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I absolutely love 18:55-19:30, quaax and the part with kairi and riku-- and I love the idea of kairi learning from aqua and becoming a keyblade master. I just love seeing those two together in general and I wish I could see them traveling the worlds in place of sora.
    Wouldn't roxas still exist though? He would just be created when sora gets vored rather than getting self-died. Would roxas still have the kingdom key?

    • @KrimsonKattYT
      @KrimsonKattYT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A nobody is only created when someone becomes a heartless, not when they die for real.

    • @lunarghost255
      @lunarghost255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@KrimsonKattYTI thought heartless were created when people die?

  • @feiradragon7915
    @feiradragon7915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Frankly "Quaax" had me loling. Too funny a Nobody name.

  • @tvb5509
    @tvb5509 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quaax's Xion is just Terra and Ventus' unholy fusion.

  • @WilyGryphon
    @WilyGryphon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Alternatively, if Kairi did die when Sora was killed, Ansem would have to go look for the new Heart that carries Kairi's light, and he and Maleficent would have to do a "Whoa, time out!" on the Heartless from destroying the worlds indiscriminately since they have no idea where to look. (Maybe. How did they figure out who the Princesses were? Ansem the Wise somehow figured it out on his own, but we never learned how that worked...) And then Maleficent immolated Captain Hook for killing the one person they needed alive.
    And some aspect of Xehanort would be going, "Aw, nuts. There goes my plan to get ahold of the Dandelion kid for some reason. Now his heart is dead and I still can't find the body!
    Now, what would happen if Scar's random roar didn't stop the hyenas from eating Sora, Donald and Goofy in Pride Lands?

    • @KHloreExpert
      @KHloreExpert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To answer your question:
      Ansem the Wise was studying Hearts and their potential for Darkness in hopes of using that knowledge to keep Radiant Garden's future bright, so he would've noticed if anyone he was studying or had extended contact with had none.
      "Dreams hold our memories. Sleep holds our dreams. And Darkness-it holds our sleep." -Ansem SoD in DDD.
      Maleficent has power over sleep, a subset of Darkness. She's been shown to be able to influence one's inner Darkness such as when she manipulated Terra to "steal Aurora's Heart" and all those times she tempered Riku's Darkness in KH1. Those two are atypical for having exceptional levels of Darkness which grants Maleficent greater potential for influence but it still stands to reason that through this ability she should have no issue sensing if a "nearby" Heart contains no Darkness at all.

    • @Powerman293
      @Powerman293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Considering we see Elsa and Anna be "The Next 7 lights" in KH3, I assume that they'd be next in line after Kairi and Ansem and co have to go to Arendelle and grab one of them.

    • @WilyGryphon
      @WilyGryphon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Powerman293 Well, yeah, but they would still have to figure out who the new Princess was and where.

    • @KHloreExpert
      @KHloreExpert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Powerman293 Excluding Kairi for the sake of this scenario the New Seven Hearts we know of in the order Sora encountered them are Rapunzel, Elsa, and Anna. Kairi's Light could potentially go to any of those 3, any of the 3 that are New Hearts that haven't been revealed yet, or even an entirely different 7th person who never became a New Heart in the actual continuity because Kairi still remains a Princess of Heart.
      I suppose it's also possible that it could go to none of the people who gained the Heart of a Princess after KH1 (or who would've if the Light had moved on from Kairi at the end like the others) because of how early in the story Kairi's Light had to be passed on in this hypothetical. Neverland was pretty late in the game to be sure, but any difference in timing might potentially have an influence on who the Light passes to.

  • @TraeceJay
    @TraeceJay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such an interesting concept and thought experiment, you’re really knocking it out of the park with every video

  • @bentonic4998
    @bentonic4998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Everyone knows the canon outcome is that KH3 Sora uses the power of waking to swoop in and catch his past self

  • @joeysora
    @joeysora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would actually love to see more videos like this.

  • @dekuisagreatmaincharacter
    @dekuisagreatmaincharacter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is legit one of the funniest videos I ever watched

  • @epiccraftmine4976
    @epiccraftmine4976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awsome video man 👍. Also an idea,
    What if Xemnas and Ansem (Seeker of Darkness) swapped places?. Example, Xemnas is in KH1 and Ansem is in KH2 and leader of Organization XIII.

  • @noctuscosande1746
    @noctuscosande1746 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think a more simple (and clean) version of this concept might have been 'What if Kairi never used the power of hugging to return Sora from heartless form' but it admittedly misses too many good crocodile jokes.

    • @appelofdoom8211
      @appelofdoom8211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would also make Sora returning easier since assuming Donald zaps heartless Sora to death all that would be needed for Sora to return is Roxas dying so im assuming instead of putting Roxas into data twilight town Riku just chokes a bitch out.
      Actually wait Roxas would have all his memories wouldn't he? And since I doubt Sora would want to team up with a person that a quick fact check would show is the nobody of the guy that possesed Riku. So sora Roxas joins back up with aqua and the gang as just nobody Sora questioning why becoming a nobody came with a hair change. Aqua would probably put two and two together so she'd take Sora to castle oblivion so she can bring his heart to Ven's body.
      Meanwhile Sora x would probably regrow a heart pretty quickly thanks to Sora being real good at forging connections or realizing his heartless is dead he commits recompletion by sharp pointy object.

  • @chrispat3638
    @chrispat3638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thoroughly enjoyed that what if scenario. Quaax made me chuckle. I hope you make more of these!

  • @davidpescitelli8004
    @davidpescitelli8004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's kind of weird to think that Captain Hook is probably the Disney Villain that was the closest to killing Sora.

  • @blacksauce091
    @blacksauce091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We need a continuation of this soon, this storyline honestly has potential

  • @MikeKennedyNFL
    @MikeKennedyNFL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My hype was through the roof for this video when I saw the thumbnail a couple days ago, and you still exceeded all my expectations. This needs to become a series! Love your content, dude, it’s exactly the kind of in-depth appreciation of past games I’ve always desired for KH. Keep it up.

  • @Aeba
    @Aeba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    your a really good writer

  • @justbobby7820
    @justbobby7820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I imagine the key would find someone else? Since Sora was the second option after Riku there must he a third option right?
    Oh shit if Sora dies he’s gonna take Kairi’s heart with him! And Ventus too. Roxas as well? Xion...
    More then just Sora dies I guess.

    • @jacktwelve1710
      @jacktwelve1710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Keyblade master goofy

    • @rmbanimator5001
      @rmbanimator5001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roxas goes into him in kh2

    • @bloodmoon0205
      @bloodmoon0205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Worse than that. Roxas wouldn't have just died, he would never have existed

    • @josephallen3978
      @josephallen3978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bloodmoon0205 he wasn't supposed to exist in the first place, so it works out lol

  • @dragonslayer3552
    @dragonslayer3552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "aqua turns into a wizard heartless" and then as kairi tries to hug her she gets electrocuted and dies the end XD

  • @Millanno37
    @Millanno37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was an unexpected treat, and I loved every second of it ❤

  • @MmeCShadow
    @MmeCShadow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm digging the interpretation where her heart stays in the crocodile, as I assume she would be actively possessing it rather than just chilling inside it.
    Let's talk about the Kairidile AU.

    • @abluerat7087
      @abluerat7087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One scene that i can allready imagine is the krocodile jumping onto the boat and start chasing cpn hook. Which causes him to shit himself

  • @kupotenshi
    @kupotenshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're a great storyteller :D

  • @JackkChaos
    @JackkChaos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    isn’t this just known as “The Good Ending”?

  • @gerasheo958
    @gerasheo958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was highly entertaining and needs a part 2 lol

  • @TheAqualic
    @TheAqualic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was really fun to watch. Please do more of the alternative history content!

  • @daisysorbet
    @daisysorbet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am coming back to this video for the third time because deadass ur voice is just... very calming to listen to. like yes dude tell me more abt sora getting eaten by the crocodile

  • @LennyPepper
    @LennyPepper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a totally clever video! Nicely done!

  • @Toastle
    @Toastle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please continue the “crocodile timeline”, it seems so interesting and I’d love to see AKDG speedrun the series

  • @Railrunner
    @Railrunner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the most powerful and incredible Kingdom Hearts videos I've watched in a few months.

  • @Andi_Frost_XPR0PR18
    @Andi_Frost_XPR0PR18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Per union cross, he'd either be transformed into a dream eater, or reincarnated.

  • @overlordjames6644
    @overlordjames6644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have similarly had thought experiments about different realities in which he is replaced with someone else entirely and to my knowledge it would flip the games so far on their head that it goes into heavy speculation territory shortly after or during castle oblivion.

  • @JSeedProductions
    @JSeedProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I like about you is that you don’t outright ignore the Disney stuff like so many others do.

  • @jocy9711
    @jocy9711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oh my god this is such a cool concept i need to know what happens next. i also wonder what would've happened if roxas beat riku at the end of days/tried to defeat xemnas on his own very often

  • @SuperSmashToadBrawl
    @SuperSmashToadBrawl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There’s been enemies capable of swallowing Sora whole before, the jester and ghost dream eaters come to mind. I feel like if the crocodile swallowed Sora he could easily fight his way out of the crocodile’s belly. It’s bit more cramped in the crocodile’s belly compared to something like Monstro but it’s a Disney game. Cartoony stuff is going to happen.

  • @trashgoon
    @trashgoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you never cease to surprise me

  • @seantheimp
    @seantheimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I need a part two. What happens to Ven's heart? Is Sora dead for good? What happens to the unfortunate individuals who live in Castle Oblivion when it forcibly rearranges itself? If Sora is dead, who the hells memories is Namine gonna manipulate?

  • @grayorganization
    @grayorganization 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid Pat! It’s hard for me to see Sora take that L, but I think you’ve found a really interesting way to tie it all back together that allows Kairi to actually do something in KH1

  • @jamespeterson4275
    @jamespeterson4275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "You see Aqua is slightly more aggressive now cos she has Kairis heart inside her and Kairi didn't take anyone's shit in KH1"
    I HOWLED laughing
    Pretty fantastic vid
    YES continue crocodile timeline pls 🐊🐊🐊🐊

  • @jakesaysknee
    @jakesaysknee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d love to see more of these kinds of alternate timeline videos!

  • @VeryViolett
    @VeryViolett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg such a great video that I haven't seen yet!

  • @ldudley2
    @ldudley2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Playing through II now, and thinking could you make a video based on “What if Sora, Donald and Goofy got blown up by Barbossa?” or “What if they got eaten by Shenzi, Banzai and Ed?”

  • @TheManOfManyNames373
    @TheManOfManyNames373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THIS is why Archer is so afraid of crocodiles! If they could eat Sora like he was nothing, they could certainly eat everyone else!

  • @locodesert2
    @locodesert2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need more what if scenarios in kingdom hearts. This would be a really fun series to watch.

  • @skunkyemerson809
    @skunkyemerson809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:27 “But accidentally bequeathed her a Keyblade”
    I legit had to do a double take because I never realized THAT’S how Kairi can use one, I always assumed it was because of her time in Sora’s heart

  • @cosmiccstuff8840
    @cosmiccstuff8840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    days continuation: axel has no roxas and xion to make him ditch saïx so he and saïx continue with their organization betrayal plan and get hearts again and destroy the rest of the organization. or something. voila more speedrun strats lol

  • @amaanmanzar1061
    @amaanmanzar1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven’t even seen the video yet and I’m loving the idea

  • @AnotherGeek....
    @AnotherGeek.... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why is this being recommended??? It hasn't even started yet

  • @ironbaysqiureg4827
    @ironbaysqiureg4827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well if you think about it a nobody aqua definitely change a lot. I would imagine our favourite guy man sex with totally Keep the nobody aqua right next to him the whole goddamn time.
    Creating hands down 2 powerful nobody's that probably have a better chance kicking aqua ass.

  • @daniellancaster9971
    @daniellancaster9971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so fun, great work dude!

  • @fenrirslayer06
    @fenrirslayer06 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS is the content we need. Thank you Regular Pat! 💖🥳

  • @Pascll
    @Pascll 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    also, aqua would probably notice that ansem is the heartless of terra-xehanort, so there'd probably be some stuff with that, some cool interesting moments and all that, with her being all sad and wanting him to give terra's heart back and stuff, and being more motivated to defeat ansem than sora already was.

  • @spoofless6630
    @spoofless6630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very interesting I hope you continue this as a series.

  • @velvetbutterfly
    @velvetbutterfly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want either a part 2 to this insane story. Or a spiritual successor where you do a different what-if because the last act was wild

  • @whiz8569
    @whiz8569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First time you see Winnie the Pooh, he was DEFINITELY hypothesizing about death.

  • @nightsky2165
    @nightsky2165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    so can we get a continuation for this year's anniversary of the series? fingers crossed everyone

  • @Cantoinferno7272
    @Cantoinferno7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this!!! Keep this up! I never liked sora to begin with since I was 9 back then. Great alternate timeline.

  • @Fragmentsinfractals488
    @Fragmentsinfractals488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Kingdom Hearts, you can learn to channel darkness instead of having it consume you. Old Xehanort does that. Riku learn how to do it from Maleficent and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness.

  • @tobyjack1238
    @tobyjack1238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t wait for the Kingdom Hearts spin off game where we get to play as Quaax for the entire thing. They were my favorite character from 2.

  • @ZRovas117
    @ZRovas117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, this is actually really cool. I'd love to hear a part 2.

  • @flutterfan2625
    @flutterfan2625 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think another interesting possiblity regarding kairis heart is that if the crocodile just straight up eats it, wendy would probably take her place as a princess of heart, seeing as she was so close to being one in the first place and everyone even expected her to be one before the whole kairi thing, if the pure hearts thing is right then a new one wouldve probably been chosen and it most likely wouldve been her seeing frozen or tangled wasnt created yet of course