It's good to see you working with & teaching your son! I had 2 daughters & 2 grand daughters & I taught them to check the oil & change a tire Check the air pressure in the tires. But just had a great grandson 4 weeks ago & finally have someone I hope will want to learn to work on "STUFF"! It's sad how no one can fix their own things these days! Just throw it away & get a new one!
The willys go devil 134 's were proven in WWI I . Willys knew how to build an engine that was easily serviced, durable, and repairable in the field. . One reason for our countrys victory . Great video Jonathan !
Thank you Jonathon and Noah for yet another great video full of information , wisdom and knowledge , can't wait to see how well she runs once repaired given how sweet it was faults and all - cheers
Lovely update lots of interesting information, and great to have you share your knowledge and skills in fixing the issues. Nice to see a young lad who shares your interest, well done Noah
So that's how they we're getting done way back in 1929... l'd never thought they'd had a timing chain like that & l like the lifter setup too...never know - maybe o' Charlie Taylor was Bud's with 1 of those guys over there & they'd talk shop every now & then over coffee & a smoke...good video Jonathan - learn something every time
Jonathan, Excellent video, as always. I would like to suggest a couple things. First: it is a good idea to use a c-clamp or pin on the end of the fork when lifting with a chain so the chain won't slip off. Second: I would recomend the thrust washer be made of "oil bronze", the same material as the bushings in a distributer. It is hard enough to last a long time and slippery enough to hold up to the clutch pressure and not wear the crank face. Noah has a great teacher, he will have the advantage of all that old time knowledge the young mechanics today have no clue about. You're a good man Jonathan.
Damn thing had some surprises in the pan that's crazy it seemed to run good for one of the valves not working at all I bet Noah is loving tearing down that engine I know I use to love it as a kid and still do as long as I am not paying for the rebuild lol!! she gonna be brand new once you get that end play and valve fixed up
Cool I enjoy seeing you guys work so hard on this stuff you work on. I think it is great how you are helping Noah learn you are a great teacher! I am a disabled mechanic and a arm chair student. I then share with my wife what I learn from watching. Thanks for good clean content!!!
I really like seeing my generation (i'm 19) working on and learning about and being interested in antique cars. I'm going to college for automotive restoration. Old cars and tractors are my life
We have a 1911 Overland which was the predecessor to Willy’s if I understand correctly. My grandpa restored the car in the mid 50s. It’s the only one left in the family of his and means so much to us.
That crank looks good and stout, especially for 1929. Much better than a Ford Model T, although the Model A was out in 1927 which had a much better crank than the T. I bet that engine will run good once you're finished with it.
Noah has no idea how much he is learning from a real pro. I know he is enjoying the work and interested in everything! I know this because I was lucky enough to get room and board from an old guy who did the same for me when I was an orphan on my own at 13 (1963). Jonathan, how old is Noah? BTW, the old gentleman (a backyard mechanic and wrencher) didn’t ask me to work nor make me work. He just gave me a place to stay if I wanted. I’m the one who was interested in wrenching on old cars/engines etc..and asked if I could help because I was interested and liked working anyway. Noah reminds me of those wonderful days where I learned more than I could ever imagine! Jonathan, do I remember you saying Noah is related somehow? Noah the apprentice and Jonathan as a mentor. God had a hand in getting you two together!
Noah is a friend of mine's grandson and I am also friends with his father (he painted my 4 door rollback). I have been friends with his grandfather for over 25 years. His grandfather did a lot of chopped Mercury's, 4 door to convertible conversions, frenched headlights and custom stuff. Noah is 18 years old.
Agreed, 100% !! This situation is not happening nearly enough these days as we have all been "snookered" into believing "absent a college education, a person is a FAILED LOOSER". We (our American society) have completely discounted the value of skill and "the work ethic" in favor of "higher education" completely ignoring the fact that the "Steve Jobs" and "Walt Disneys", with their "visions", are nowhere without the guy who can take those visions and turn them into "reality".
MRwmac....I totally agree...This Boy is very Lucky, and I think he knows it. Story after story from guys Our age tell me that this is way to rare....Thank God for our friend Jonathan
i wouldnt say its "college or bust" that is the problem. i have a trade, and am still having trouble finding a job. its the 70+ year olds that wont retire that are the problem. bad economy areas exist too. if you stopped looking at everything as a negative, things would be better.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 You are correct sir. I've always thought some guys kept working waaay too long. Told them to there face..you need to retire to make room for another generation. Some had 40yrs with the same company. Some said they had to pay off their kids education. Poor planning...and make THEM pay off their education. I have 5 children...retired with 34yrs on the same job at age 56. One problem I saw was at least 10% of the employees I left behind were from some other country. Did I retire at age 56 so some guy from a foreign country could fill my spot? Guess I shouldn't concern myself with such matters.
Had the same on model t fords. Made brass thrust washer, riveted to Babbitt bearing with aluminum rivet, split brass washer and used on removable main bearing cap. Half a thrust washer. But didn't have to remove Babbitt or crank.
Willy's always had this little things to make a mechanic's life easier. I helped a guy tear down a sleeve valve motor from a 29 Knight. It was all rusted inside but everything slid apart nicely because the all the wear surfaces we're designed to hold oil against them, and we're still lubricated after sitting in the Nevada desert for at least 40 years. The guy that owned the car the engine came out of dropped a Dodge V10 in the thing, he was a crazy bastard.
As a machinist, I don't think I'd use stainless for a shim, especially any 300 series. It's notorious for galling when drilling and tapping. It may do the same thing with the pressure from the clutch over time. If you really want stainless, go with 420 or 440. It's harder and will reduce the chance of galling. Noah - It's good to see someone young not afraid to get dirty! Listen to Jonathan, he knows his stuff!
Bugger, thought it was a good thing. (Commenting as i watch lol) Your a cluey dude Jonathon.. but we all knew dat. Up to liffter adjuster broken n found. Sorry ive had a few jacks. Lol Go Noah!! I wish we had more young blokes like Noah over here. Too many lazy Princesses
First off,, I'd like to agree with everyone else's post on young Noah,,, Way to go young man, you have a very good teacher, so soak it all in... No better way of Learning than "Hands On".. and Trial and Error... Not everything can be learned from a Book....Secondly,, Jonathan, I remember helping my Grandfather do something similar to his old International tractor...We used a piece of Stainless steel for a shim,, and took a Triangle File and very lightly cut across it... 12 to 6 o'clock on one side, 3 to 9 o'clock on the reverse... He wanted to be sure oil would be able to contact both the crank and bearing...Never had any trouble with it afterward..... Just throwing it out there as a suggestion...Keep up the videos,,, Been watching them all......
Fine project for Noah, he will probably get that Willys running quicker than your Elcar... Thought the engine looked similar to a Jeep 'Go Devil' , thanks for the information.
A few early engines I've run across (Studebaker amongst others) have had a shimmed plate behind the timing gear. Adding or removing shims adjust the crankshaft end play. I'm amazed how much this looks like my 1948 Willys Pickup engine except for the lifter setup and Babbitt rods. I think I would have replaced the lifters and ran the engine to hear how it sounds. Just thinkin'. What a great learning process for that young man.
It is essentially the same engine as a Whippet in your '48 pick-up. It was modernised in the late thirties to become the "Go Devil" engine. I think that these engines were so tough because they had full pressure oiling right from day one.
Impressive how they built that whole lifter block assembly that unbolts and comes out. Really handy! Also was surprised, expected a slinger oil, heck I had to drop a pan on my 51 chevy 6 in a truck and it had slinger oil still. She sure ran good for being hurt. Good luck with it Jon!
Not a lot of fully pressurised systems in 1929. I think this engine was designed by an engineer that cared about the mechanic. I really like the lifer setup, so easy to fix!!
Jonathan W I’m guessing that great engine designer came up from being a backyard mechanic that used all his learned knowledge as a kid with a mentor. Sound familiar?
I like seeing those wire tied fasteners, there's a sign of an engine that was made to run well for a long time. Willys made and used good engines back in the day; here's proof.
I really enjoy watching your videos. And you are lucky to have Noah wanting to come down and help you out. You both are doing great things for each other, you getting help and Noah learning how to work on many types of cars and trucks. You guys appear to work good together. Keep up the good work and I know it's not really work if you enjoy what your doing. See ya in the next video.
Flat head Willy's was my first engine overhaul and finished my career on helicopters. Tell Noah he's walking the right path keep going it's great at the end.
well i didnt think you were gonna tear it down right away!!!! noahs new project! cool! i got a f124 continental i just got unstuck, and i think i broke 2 lifters, two rear valves wont open.i havent taken the side pan off yet to see what happened! take care!
The go devil engine was a overhead intake valve engine called the f 134 the l134 Is the flat head a common mistake a lot of people make the original military jeeps had the l134
No you have been mis-informed. The flat head Whippet engine was modernised in the second half of the thirties. The name engineering called the modernised engine was the 'go devil engine'. It was most famous as the power plant in the Jeep of WWII. The F-134 was the same engine with a different head than the go-devil. The F in the new name was because it was called an F-head in the U.S. Overhead intake, side exhaust. Quite a lively little engine, and very hard to wear out.
The Whippet engine was way ahead of its time. A 134 cu inch 4 cylinder high rpm (for the time it first came out) small bore, long stroke engine. Most American engines of the day were of equal bore and stroke and turned at 2,000 rpm max under load. In 1936 the engine was modernised in order to keep Willys competitive in the low price field for the new body and frame coming out in 1937. Engine was now rated at 3600 rpm instead of 3200, and was even tougher and longer lasting than the earlier original Whippet engine used until late 1936. The 1937 engine was referred to as the 'Go Devil Engine'. Willys-Overland did not still have the plant capacity available to manufacture Jeeps in the numbers needed so Ford started manufacturing Jeeps as well, 'Go Devil Engines' and all. The Army contract specified total interchangeability of parts. After WWII, more power was needed, so a new head was designed with an inlet valve for each cylinder. Exhaust valves stayed in the block.
Talk to metalshaper here on TH-cam. He does a lot of work with early Willy’s engines in old jeeps. Would probably have answers to all your questions, and may even have parts.
John Acuff I need to contact Metalshaper. Have an old marine engine based on a Williys 4 cyl. The crank needs to be shortened for the marine gearbox. Kermath engine.
My first thought on the strange double nut you found in the oil pan? Someone playing a cruel joke put it there to confound the next person pulling the pan, probably not even from the Whippet! I will watch more to see how it turns out.
very good informative video, Noah looked fairly dirty prior to stopping for the night, not just clothes, but face and hands. always sad to see your videos end.
I am sure it has already been said, but can you not just replace the bearing? It seems like if you got a proper width bearing back in there, or even oversize, it would be an easy fix.
as for the end play, I've seen old engines that had end play, it's not ideal but I doubt you will be driving the car for a real long distance, I don't think I would worry too much about that. by the way, I think you have a very good helper, he's not afraid of work or to get dirty and he seems very interested it this kind of work.
Man Jonathan, You continually impress me!!!!!!!!! I am imagining that pneumatic driver is for semi truck lug nuts but, That is not my point! Your tool game is serious! More extensive then mine! I do not have a lathe & I often think of the tools that I do not own & it bothers me! I believe that a person is only as good as the tools they own/have at their disposal & their ability, skill, drive, & know how, & knowledge! You always impress & that is why I watch your channel everyday, well,,,Every chance I get anyways...
I would have thought the thrust surface is on the middle bearing .i have seen those thick bearing inserts used on pre war english diesels, they can be rebabbited and machined. In that case the babbit would be built up on the thrust face. it's a tough engine alright ,
Hate to tell you, but I heard it was missing. Used to hearing 4cyl not 8 which often sound as if they're missing. Thought it was off a valve, but easy fix as long as you can get a follower. Like how you can take them off from the side, not seen that before. Thrusts wear when people keep their foot on the clutch at lights etc. or badly adjusted of course. Seen a few 1200 Fords (Mk1 Cortina) engines with gouges in the main. Can (could) get oversized thrusts and ground the crank to suit. Middle main on them of course. Stainless shim will work fine.
Why don’t you machine the end of the crank and then the install of the gear will pull the crank up tight to the bearing removing all the clearance. Meaning after you surface the trust area on the crank back true. Just a though
a little extra end thrust play is likely no big deal. or use a knerling tool to knerl the end of the brass insert so as to take up the slack a bit. I would guess the original spec was something like .005 end play.
a friend of calls this on location modification ,don't know where he came up with it but , I am sure you will get it done ,enjoy your videos as always , thanks
It's good to see you working with & teaching your son! I had 2 daughters & 2 grand daughters & I taught them to check the oil & change a tire Check the air pressure in the tires. But just had a great grandson 4 weeks ago & finally have someone I hope will want to learn to work on "STUFF"! It's sad how no one can fix their own things these days! Just throw it away & get a new one!
The willys go devil 134 's were proven in WWI I . Willys knew how to build an engine that was easily serviced, durable, and repairable in the field. . One reason for our countrys victory . Great video Jonathan !
I'm glad to see that this old classic is being put back together like it should be. Can hardly wait to see it fully restored!
Thank you Jonathon and Noah for yet another great video full of information , wisdom and knowledge , can't wait to see how well she runs once repaired given how sweet it was faults and all - cheers
Lovely update lots of interesting information, and great to have you share your knowledge and skills in fixing the issues. Nice to see a young lad who shares your interest, well done Noah
That engine was so far ahead of its time. Thanks for the video.
So that's how they we're getting done way back in 1929... l'd never thought they'd had a timing chain like that & l like the lifter setup too...never know - maybe o' Charlie Taylor was Bud's with 1 of those guys over there & they'd talk shop every now & then over coffee & a smoke...good video Jonathan - learn something every time
Jonathan, Excellent video, as always. I would like to suggest a couple things. First: it is a good idea to use a c-clamp or pin on the end of the fork when lifting with a chain so the chain won't slip off. Second: I would recomend the thrust washer be made of "oil bronze", the same material as the bushings in a distributer. It is hard enough to last a long time and slippery enough to hold up to the clutch pressure and not wear the crank face. Noah has a great teacher, he will have the advantage of all that old time knowledge the young mechanics today have no clue about. You're a good man Jonathan.
Agree on the material choice. The stainless is tough but likes gall in conditions like this. Also completely agree on the rest !! ;o)
I always put a C clamp on the end of the fork when lifting.
Im thinking make a whole new bushing thats wider then you dont have to worry about any shims coming apart
When you going to do another episode of the race car that you are building from scratch
I love it when people save old vehicles and bring them back to life.
Damn thing had some surprises in the pan that's crazy it seemed to run good for one of the valves not working at all I bet Noah is loving tearing down that engine I know I use to love it as a kid and still do as long as I am not paying for the rebuild lol!! she gonna be brand new once you get that end play and valve fixed up
Cool I enjoy seeing you guys work so hard on this stuff you work on. I think it is great how you are helping Noah learn you are a great teacher!
I am a disabled mechanic and a arm chair student. I then share with my wife what I learn from watching. Thanks for good clean content!!!
I really like seeing my generation (i'm 19) working on and learning about and being interested in antique cars. I'm going to college for automotive restoration. Old cars and tractors are my life
That engine has amazing design elements. Much better made than I expected.
We have a 1911 Overland which was the predecessor to Willy’s if I understand correctly. My grandpa restored the car in the mid 50s. It’s the only one left in the family of his and means so much to us.
It's funny how the simplest things almost always work the best, but especially when it's not supposed to work at all. Thanks JW!!
Gotta say, I LOVE this car! Glad the engine issues are minimal!
That crank looks good and stout, especially for 1929. Much better than a Ford Model T, although the Model A was out in 1927 which had a much better crank than the T. I bet that engine will run good once you're finished with it.
That's Awesome , the durability built into old engines , and old vehicles are cool .
There is a whole lot of learning in that car for Noah.
I really like where this is going!
You're a good man Jonathon.
sherlock holmes and dr. watson under the Whippet.. Love it! best channel ever:-)
Noah has no idea how much he is learning from a real pro. I know he is enjoying the work and interested in everything! I know this because I was lucky enough to get room and board from an old guy who did the same for me when I was an orphan on my own at 13 (1963). Jonathan, how old is Noah? BTW, the old gentleman (a backyard mechanic and wrencher) didn’t ask me to work nor make me work. He just gave me a place to stay if I wanted. I’m the one who was interested in wrenching on old cars/engines etc..and asked if I could help because I was interested and liked working anyway. Noah reminds me of those wonderful days where I learned more than I could ever imagine! Jonathan, do I remember you saying Noah is related somehow? Noah the apprentice and Jonathan as a mentor. God had a hand in getting you two together!
Noah is a friend of mine's grandson and I am also friends with his father (he painted my 4 door rollback). I have been friends with his grandfather for over 25 years. His grandfather did a lot of chopped Mercury's, 4 door to convertible conversions, frenched headlights and custom stuff. Noah is 18 years old.
Agreed, 100% !! This situation is not happening nearly enough these days as we have all been "snookered" into believing "absent a college education, a person is a FAILED LOOSER". We (our American society) have completely discounted the value of skill and "the work ethic" in favor of "higher education" completely ignoring the fact that the "Steve Jobs" and "Walt Disneys", with their "visions", are nowhere without the guy who can take those visions and turn them into "reality".
MRwmac....I totally agree...This Boy is very Lucky, and I think he knows it. Story after story from guys Our age tell me that this is way to rare....Thank God for our friend Jonathan
i wouldnt say its "college or bust" that is the problem. i have a trade, and am still having trouble finding a job. its the 70+ year olds that wont retire that are the problem. bad economy areas exist too. if you stopped looking at everything as a negative, things would be better.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 You are correct sir. I've always thought some guys kept working waaay too long. Told them to there face..you need to retire to make room for another generation. Some had 40yrs with the same company. Some said they had to pay off their kids education. Poor planning...and make THEM pay off their education. I have 5 children...retired with 34yrs on the same job at age 56. One problem I saw was at least 10% of the employees I left behind were from some other country. Did I retire at age 56 so some guy from a foreign country could fill my spot? Guess I shouldn't concern myself with such matters.
It is really cool that you got Noah involved in the videos it's nice to see a young guy like that interested in this type of work
Had the same on model t fords. Made brass thrust washer, riveted to Babbitt bearing with aluminum rivet, split brass washer and used on removable main bearing cap. Half a thrust washer. But didn't have to remove Babbitt or crank.
well for an engine that old the crankshaft is still in pretty amazing shape for an original. Great work on the tear down Noah.
And this was the best of the best in the 20's...Back when parts were made to be repairable.
Willy's always had this little things to make a mechanic's life easier. I helped a guy tear down a sleeve valve motor from a 29 Knight. It was all rusted inside but everything slid apart nicely because the all the wear surfaces we're designed to hold oil against them, and we're still lubricated after sitting in the Nevada desert for at least 40 years. The guy that owned the car the engine came out of dropped a Dodge V10 in the thing, he was a crazy bastard.
As a machinist, I don't think I'd use stainless for a shim, especially any 300 series. It's notorious for galling when drilling and tapping. It may do the same thing with the pressure from the clutch over time. If you really want stainless, go with 420 or 440. It's harder and will reduce the chance of galling. Noah - It's good to see someone young not afraid to get dirty! Listen to Jonathan, he knows his stuff!
That was the new 1929 fuel efficient *3 cylinder* Whippet. Very rare.
Noah is getting the best mentoring there is 👍👍👍👍👍
Bugger, thought it was a good thing. (Commenting as i watch lol)
Your a cluey dude Jonathon.. but we all knew dat. Up to liffter adjuster broken n found. Sorry ive had a few jacks. Lol
Go Noah!!
I wish we had more young blokes like Noah over here. Too many lazy Princesses
Keep Noah with you. He's going to be a awesome mechanic.
Good to see a young man getting his hands dirty and learning how things are done . So many today are stuck a phone or keyboard.
Noah's family did a good job getting him ready to learn. You can see him just soaking up the knowledge.
First off,, I'd like to agree with everyone else's post on young Noah,,, Way to go young man, you have a very good teacher, so soak it all in... No better way of Learning than "Hands On".. and Trial and Error... Not everything can be learned from a Book....Secondly,, Jonathan, I remember helping my Grandfather do something similar to his old International tractor...We used a piece of Stainless steel for a shim,, and took a Triangle File and very lightly cut across it... 12 to 6 o'clock on one side, 3 to 9 o'clock on the reverse... He wanted to be sure oil would be able to contact both the crank and bearing...Never had any trouble with it afterward..... Just throwing it out there as a suggestion...Keep up the videos,,, Been watching them all......
Fine project for Noah, he will probably get that Willys running quicker than your Elcar...
Thought the engine looked similar to a Jeep 'Go Devil' , thanks for the information.
A few early engines I've run across (Studebaker amongst others) have had a shimmed plate behind the timing gear. Adding or removing shims adjust the crankshaft end play. I'm amazed how much this looks like my 1948 Willys Pickup engine except for the lifter setup and Babbitt rods. I think I would have replaced the lifters and ran the engine to hear how it sounds. Just thinkin'. What a great learning process for that young man.
It is essentially the same engine as a Whippet in your '48 pick-up. It was modernised in the late thirties to become the "Go Devil" engine. I think that these engines were so tough because they had full pressure oiling right from day one.
My father inlaw came out west in his brand new 1932 Whippet coupe. He said at that time almost none of the roads in Montana were paved.
Impressive how they built that whole lifter block assembly that unbolts and comes out. Really handy! Also was surprised, expected a slinger oil, heck I had to drop a pan on my 51 chevy 6 in a truck and it had slinger oil still. She sure ran good for being hurt. Good luck with it Jon!
Not a lot of fully pressurised systems in 1929. I think this engine was designed by an engineer that cared about the mechanic. I really like the lifer setup, so easy to fix!!
Jonathan W I’m guessing that great engine designer came up from being a backyard mechanic that used all his learned knowledge as a kid with a mentor. Sound familiar?
Thanks for everything you do love watching your videos always interesting and enjoyable to see
I like seeing those wire tied fasteners, there's a sign of an engine that was made to run well for a long time.
Willys made and used good engines back in the day; here's proof.
Yep. The end of the era before planned obsolescence came to be, back when Made in USA truly meant building the best product possible.
Yep,.I agree with you 100%.
I'm loving this series, fascinating stuff!
Good project it makes excellent videos to watch, love it.
I really enjoy watching your videos. And you are lucky to have Noah wanting to come down and help you out. You both are doing great things for each other, you getting help and Noah learning how to work on many types of cars and trucks. You guys appear to work good together. Keep up the good work and I know it's not really work if you enjoy what your doing. See ya in the next video.
Flat head Willy's was my first engine overhaul and finished my career on helicopters. Tell Noah he's walking the right path keep going it's great at the end.
Hard working kid! Learning from a real good person, now he'll be a real good person too!
Best way to learn stuff IMO jump right in hands on. Great job Noah!
Ahh Good , That won't be to bad to fix Jonathan .. ENJOYED ! Noah is a great kid ..
Rock Auto Has most if not all the parts for the Willy's. I get a lot of my parts from there. Good prices to. 👍You got this.👍
Looks like they only offer spark plugs.
rock sucks
Good video as always!! Its like opening a time capsule from 90 years ago!!
im suprised the crank wore instead of the softer bearing.
I'm getting Junkyard fever watching all these vidios
Watching you and Noah work on that old car sure reminds me of working with my dad as a kid... miss him terrible
Noah is going to rock this one!
Go Noah! Glad they are interested at a young age. I sure was! Love your channel Jonathan! ...Newk from Kentucky
Good stuff!
I'll be interested in seeing how you set the crank up on the lathe.
Noah is learning.
Thanks.
Damn that Noah is a decent kid, there's not many like them around anymore unfortunately
Brave little Whippet!
Great fun and an interesting project..
Looking good, I’m sure you will have it running perfectly soon.
*Cool Looking Engine!!* LOve Videos Like this!!
well i didnt think you were gonna tear it down right away!!!! noahs new project! cool! i got a f124 continental i just got unstuck, and i think i broke 2 lifters, two rear valves wont open.i havent taken the side pan off yet to see what happened! take care!
The go devil engine was a overhead intake valve engine called the f 134 the l134 Is the flat head a common mistake a lot of people make the original military jeeps had the l134
No you have been mis-informed. The flat head Whippet engine was modernised in the second half of the thirties. The name engineering called the modernised engine was the 'go devil engine'. It was most famous as the power plant in the Jeep of WWII. The F-134 was the same engine with a different head than the go-devil. The F in the new name was because it was called an F-head in the U.S. Overhead intake, side exhaust. Quite a lively little engine, and very hard to wear out.
jan labij that’s what I said the f head was half overhead valve and the l 134 is a flat head neither of what he has
The Whippet engine was way ahead of its time. A 134 cu inch 4 cylinder high rpm (for the time it first came out) small bore, long stroke engine. Most American engines of the day were of equal bore and stroke and turned at 2,000 rpm max under load. In 1936 the engine was modernised in order to keep Willys competitive in the low price field for the new body and frame coming out in 1937. Engine was now rated at 3600 rpm instead of 3200, and was even tougher and longer lasting than the earlier original Whippet engine used until late 1936. The 1937 engine was referred to as the 'Go Devil Engine'. Willys-Overland did not still have the plant capacity available to manufacture Jeeps in the numbers needed so Ford started manufacturing Jeeps as well, 'Go Devil Engines' and all. The Army contract specified total interchangeability of parts. After WWII, more power was needed, so a new head was designed with an inlet valve for each cylinder. Exhaust valves stayed in the block.
Noah is in the bast school he can be for the summer! cool channel Jonathan! thank you.
If you could this for other kids there would be less gang activity
Less kids on drugs
Johnathan great role model
Props to Noah. Helluva kid!!
Love how the lifters were done, makes it easy. Suprised you didn't find more sludge. Wonder if it was rebuilt at some point long ago.
Talk to metalshaper here on TH-cam. He does a lot of work with early Willy’s engines in old jeeps. Would probably have answers to all your questions, and may even have parts.
John Acuff
I need to contact Metalshaper.
Have an old marine engine based on a Williys 4 cyl.
The crank needs to be shortened for the marine gearbox.
Kermath engine.
I love that whippet.you will make it work. Thanks
Can you turn a new bearing with integrated thrust washer?
This kind of stuff can lead to better things for today's youth
Great vid
Happy Anniversary
My first thought on the strange double nut you found in the oil pan? Someone playing a cruel joke put it there to confound the next person pulling the pan, probably not even from the Whippet! I will watch more to see how it turns out.
very good informative video, Noah looked fairly dirty prior to stopping for the night, not just clothes, but face and hands. always sad to see your videos end.
Today on This Old Engine....
Thats the way i learned! Nice story he wont soon forget.
Man this like opening a time capsule the problem solution went quick good luck
Cool car glad you are teaching Noah
thx for your video John really like watching the way you do things
make a two piece thrust washer install it and tack weld or elctrobond each split, buff down each spot till smooth and flush, good to go.
I sincerely hope to be reborn as a good engine.
I am sure it has already been said, but can you not just replace the bearing? It seems like if you got a proper width bearing back in there, or even oversize, it would be an easy fix.
Love the 55 man good job on it👍
as for the end play, I've seen old engines that had end play, it's not ideal but I doubt you will be driving the car for a real long distance, I don't think I would worry too much about that. by the way, I think you have a very good helper, he's not afraid of work or to get dirty and he seems very interested it this kind of work.
I have seen a lot of play in them before too, but this one liked to move a lot at idle and made a low end noise I just couldn't live with!!
it would be better to fix it right.
Hi Johnboy you have a great helper Noah .But you too make a good team working on the car .
On my Willys six in my Jeep wagon (1955) the thrust bearing came in two pieces and was held in place by the bearing cap.
Thats a damn big impact!
NOAH is learning a lot.
One more thing this is actually educational
Man Jonathan, You continually impress me!!!!!!!!! I am imagining that pneumatic driver is for semi truck lug nuts but, That is not my point! Your tool game is serious! More extensive then mine! I do not have a lathe & I often think of the tools that I do not own & it bothers me! I believe that a person is only as good as the tools they own/have at their disposal & their ability, skill, drive, & know how, & knowledge! You always impress & that is why I watch your channel everyday, well,,,Every chance I get anyways...
Don't turn that crank too much! That damn thing will startup. lol
I had a hole drilled in both forks so I could stick a bolt thru the chain - no danger of the chain slipping that way.....
I would have thought the thrust surface is on the middle bearing .i have seen those thick bearing inserts used on pre war english diesels, they can be rebabbited and machined. In that case the babbit would be built up on the thrust face. it's a tough engine alright ,
Hate to tell you, but I heard it was missing. Used to hearing 4cyl not 8 which often sound as if they're missing. Thought it was off a valve, but easy fix as long as you can get a follower. Like how you can take them off from the side, not seen that before. Thrusts wear when people keep their foot on the clutch at lights etc. or badly adjusted of course. Seen a few 1200 Fords (Mk1 Cortina) engines with gouges in the main. Can (could) get oversized thrusts and ground the crank to suit. Middle main on them of course. Stainless shim will work fine.
Noah's grandfather probably wasnt even a spark in HIS daddy's eye when that car was built and here he is wrenching it. Too cool for words.
Cranki 9on
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!
great video, that was interesting, that old motor.
This is really interesting to watch.
Why don’t you machine the end of the crank and then the install of the gear will pull the crank up tight to the bearing removing all the clearance. Meaning after you surface the trust area on the crank back true. Just a though
Good stuff. Good man Noah.
a little extra end thrust play is likely no big deal. or use a knerling tool to knerl the end of the brass insert so as to take up the slack a bit. I would guess the original spec was something like .005 end play.
The good and old steel!
a friend of calls this on location modification ,don't know where he came up with it but , I am sure you will get it done ,enjoy your videos as always , thanks