The useful, popular, and effective 7mm-08 Remington
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- GunBlue490 discusses one of his all-time favorite game cartridges; the popular and highly effective 7mm-08 Remington that hunters and silhouette shooters have loved for nearly 40 years.
I bought a rifle chambered in 7mm-08 because of this video
Wow, men like you and my father are getting scarce as hens teeth both north and south. Clear, levelheaded,, practical, patriotic and wise. Keep up the good work my northern friend. God bless
Georgiaboy44
Hey, nice to see another Georgia boy
@Georgiaboy44 Well said, well said.
@@johnt4060 Both of you congrats on trying to fix your voter fraud problem. Better late than never for sure ...
@@myrealname7655 yeah I wish something was done a long time ago
I'd love to see your 7mm-08 and 270win. Well in fact I would really love to see all your rifles. perhaps a video idea?
You are correct, it’s not energy that kills the animal it’s tissue destruction. As a game guide and outfitter I saw numerous hunters bringing every conceivable magnum caliber to the hunt. And wondered why I packed a 243. Then we’re totally perplexed when they would put a slug into a moose and instead of seeing him drop, would watch him run off. Bullet placement is key.
Bullet integrity and placement in the anatomy makes all the difference really. 300 yard shots is hunter long range to me.
The 7mm-08 is best kept secret of available whitetail cartridges. The .280 Remington is also fabulous. I have and love both.
I agree ☝️
7mm-08 Remington = best .308 based cartridge
.280 Remington = best .30-06 based cartridge
Both a hand loaders dream and will outperform their counterparts.
@@NorthwoodsNomad I couldn't agree more.
Yep -- I like the 280AI.
I like both of these cartridges.
I was on a dall sheep/ mountain caribou hunt in The Yukon about 15 years ago. My rifle was chambered in 7mm-08. Several other hunters in camp laughed at my "tiny " caliber rifle. I took a dall sheep at 178 yards and a big mountain caribou at 276 yards, both one shot kills. The outfitter himself was my guide. When we got back to base camp the outfitter asked those in camp: any questions about the 7mm-08 boys?
I bought my 7mm08 as a Senior in high school in 1981, just a year after Remington introduced the round. I love it and it's bagged many deer over the years. I've consistently shot 1" groups at 100 yds with it.
I too love this cartridge. I bought a Remington Model 7 stainless with a 20in. barrel when they first came out in the early 80s and never looked back at the 270 I'd been using at that time. It is extremely accurate, and I've shot well over 100 deer with this rifle and 140 grain ballistic tips and IMR 4350 powder at ranges from 20 to 200 yards. Always excellent results as long as I kept the shot in the heart lung area. I recently got a chronograph and was very surprised to see my max charge only delivering 2500 fps about 10 feet from the muzzle. I'm wondering what velocity you are getting with what looks to me like a Hornady 139 grain Interlock in your model 7? You make very interesting videos. Keep them coming.
I love the cartridge. I have taken 9 moose with mine using the 140gr partition, it works very well on moose out to 300 yards.
scott brake
That's a pretty good endorsement.
I prefer it over my 300wsm honestly. I don't know why but it put them down very very well.
scott brake
The reason is quite simply that the bullet has excellent sectional density that drives in deeply, and does the necessary damage. Whether another cartridge does the same thing at higher velocity doesn't change that fact or reduce the the lesser one's effectiveness. My late friend shot many Quebec moose with 130 grain 270s with Partitions, some at 300 or more yards, and never had a problem.
You are correct. It's a very underrated cartridge, the only problem around here for most people is that if you don't reload the ammunition is very hard to find making it not very common.
6.5swede and 7mm are popular moose getters. Didnt know the 7mm08 had enough oomph to though...thanks, it seems like the 7mm08 is my go to now.
Sir, by far my favorite video of yours. Well spoken gentleman and very educational video as always. I completely agree with you on the 7mm-08.
While researching Kubota tractors and watching you turn into a snowman on your Kubota my mom 94 years young and I bought a Kubota BX2380 with a front bower and heated Tektite cab. While watching your tractor videos I stumbled on your gun and ammo videos and watched many of them. I was looking for a new deer gun and after watching your video on the 7mm-08 I decided that it was going to be my new deer gun. I love my Remington 7mm Rem Mag with a Jewel trigger for deer but most of my shots were less than 50-60 yards away. The recoil didn’t bother me at all but I wanted a lighter low maintenance rifle. I chose the Tikka T3X 7mm-08 Synthetic stock and stainless barrel and I mounted a Burris Veracity 2-10x 30mm scope and Sako Optilok rings and bases. Your video on the 7mm-08 helped me decide on the caliber. The first time I shot it I smiled because I barely felt any recoil. What a great gun and caliber. Thanks!
Great info. I bought my son a model 7 youth 7mm08 25 years ago. I may start hunting with it
The 7mm08 isnt outdated anyone who says that is stupid (you didnt say that, im just saying). It was ahead of its time, and a wonderful shooter. Hell the 6.5x55mm swede is still used and beloved hunter and had military use all the way to the 90s and its over 120 years old. These gun makers were just ahead of their time and knew what they were doing back in the day.
I have a cz 557 in 6.5x55 and it's a fantastic round.
I bought my 7 mm O8 when they first came out I have used it since and never look back
Brilliant for deer. Smooth. Little recoil. Just perfect
Everything you need and nothing you don’t. My favorite short-action.
The first deer rifle I ever bought was a 7mm Rem Mag many years ago thinking that extreme long range capability is what made a good hunting rifle, well many years later I discovered the 7mm-08 and now my 7mm Rem Mag spends most of the season gathering dust. Yes the 7mm RM is the more capable cartridge, but it is kind of like using a Mack truck to pull a flat bottom aluminum boat, it is just WAY more than you actually need to get the job done.
“You don’t use a chain saw to trim your shrubs…”. 😂😂😂
7mm 08 is intriguing…. More oomph than my Creedmore. Flies better than my .308. It definitely smacks harder than Creedmore which gets it done. I know, “How many rifles do you need to kill deer?”, but I want one now anyway…
The 708 is a super cartridge on deer it’s what I use in my Styer scout. Brilliant rifle in my opinion. Super accurate
The Scout is / was the worst rifle made by Mannlicher Steyr. I’m very sorry for you , but you should really try out the regular Steyr rifle ; you’ll dump that rubbish scout !
@@kevi152 thanks for being a negative nancy to the bloke. His happy with it, who cares!
I took my first buck this season with my new 7mm-08 Weatherby Vanguard. The cartridge just became legal for deer in indiana this year. The buck dropped in his tracks, not taking another step. Thank you for the video.
I have the same. It’s superb. Got it in 2008 I believe.
Thanks for your review of the 7mm 08. I've been a 7mm fan for years having owned a 7x57 rifle and 7mm Magnum. I like the features added with the 7mm 08. I'm a fellow Vietnam veteran as well.
Thank you for your service Mr. Weatherly. God Bless and happy new year.
@@jessemccarthy05 I’m honored by your comment. Thank you!
God bless you my friend, I've been reloading since 1973 and enjoy target shooting as well as deer hunting. Some years back I retired my 7mm mag for a .308, the 7 is way too much gun for whitetail 250.yds or less, my son is wanting to deer hunt with 7.08 or 6.5 Creedmoor, being as he is small framed I advised him either would be a excellent choice, good barrel life and exceptional accuracy. It's nice to hear from a fanatic like myself not leaning to the magnum calibers for most game in America as bigger is not necessarily better in many applications, take care sir and carry on the good work
I think the 7/08 gets the most out of 308 case, very good sectional density and BC. And with 175 gr it gives nothing up to 30-06 because of higher BC.
You have convinced me. I am an Eastern (New Hampshire) hunter, and looking for a field/power line gun that is not overkill, or underkill. (or shoulder killer) I have been tossed up between 243, 270, and 7mm 08. I think this is the one I will start looking for. I have my 30-30 for close woods work.
Thank you again, so much, for your videos. God bless.
Thank you sir, for passing on your years of experience and wisdom.
I love how you say cartridge. Classic.
Very New England pronunciation for sure.
Cahhtridge
Kawtrige= cartridge 🤠👍
Great video and a great description of a highly underrated cartridge. I have it in a M77 compact and a Browning BLR. It’s awesome!
a 243 will kill elk all day long. 7m-08 is a fully legit big game choice
You are, hands down, the best teacher of any subject on TH-cam. God has blessed you with wisdom. Now that I have a Weatherby Vanguard in 7mm-08, my expert friend helped me replicate a factory load found in the Remington Premier Partition 140 grain cartridge. (discontinued?) I purchased Nosler Partition bullets and am using IMR 4064. My buddy measured the muzzle velocity at 2828. I will be hunting deer here in Indiana, but I would like your opinion of this load combination. Thank you and God bless.
John McClure
Nosler Partition 140 grain, and IMR4064, sounds like a great combination to me!
Yup that partition is a great bullet.
Age related Safety considerations (Mild arthritis in my hands) dictated that I divorce myself from my Lever action rifles and their half cock safety feature. My confidence level in preforming that function safely, each and every time, was declining, and as safety is always my first consideration when dealing with firearm my choice was clear.I will miss my 336 -30/30 and my Henry 22 but I will survive. My hardest decision was to separate from my BLR 7mm-08. Thankfully I found what I believe will be my new best firearm friends. I picked up a Sako A7 synthetic stainless in 7mm-08 and a CZ 455 supermatch in 22lr. So far I think I made a good choice. We are still getting to know one another but I see good things in our future so far.
I've had many calibers over my 40 + years of Deer hunting from 300 win mag, the 30-06, 270 win, 30-30, 35 rem ect...but my now go to Deer rifle is my Browning XBolt Hells Canyon Speed chambered in 7mm-08 just love this rifle and will stay with me until my last day hunting! Great video 👍
I just got a ruger american 7mm-08 for christmas from the wife. Haven't shot it yet. my first gun was a 7mm and then i sold that and got a 30-06.
I have a Remington 788 in 7-08. tack driver and the whitetail don't enjoy seeing it
Wish i had one.... I own a 788 in 22-250 that my dad gave me, and its the most accurate/ugly gun i own! And it's not for sale 😂
I bought my daughter a 660 Mohawk in .243. like you said, the bolt handle leaves a lot to be desired, but man is it a shooter. Love your videos GunBlue, best on TH-cam
Just ordered a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 7mm-08 after watching this video. Going after white tails in central Texas this year. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Outstanding choice. I've been shooting a 7-08 for many years at Texas deer and hogs.
C Lewis I’m also in Texas...The model 70 featherweight in 7mm08 is my favorite riffle...It’s light and accurate..Mines a new haven model... from about 2004 but it’s still like new....
I have shot that exact gun since i was 12 im 31 now. Only youth combination
I have taken many elk deer bear an even a moose. Deadly accuracy short or long range.
Veary small an ez to handle in steep terane
I purchased a 7mm-08 (barrel for TC Dimension) after hearing Gunblue490's brief description of the cartridge in his 308 video. Eight days ago I took an eight point 200lb whitetail at just under 200 yards with my own hand loaded 139gr Hornady SST. Perfect performance. As he ambled across a pasture trying to wind a doe, I intentionally hit him high with a spine shot because I wanted to anchor him before he could move into a wooded brush patch that's quite wet and from which it would be hard to get a big buck out. The 7mm-08 dropped him where he stood with minimal meat damage. Thanks.
Amos Walker: am considering buying the Dimension rifle, because of its swappable barrels. How do you like the rifle? I've heard that the price of the barrels is high enough to where, there's not a big advantage over simply buying another whole rifle in that 2nd caliber. Are the barrels that pricey?
I've had my 7mm-08 since I was 8 and it's a lovely Remington model 700. Currently I am reloading 150 Gr Berger classic hunter's with 45.9 Grains of reloader 17. If you wish to try that load and tell me how it works for you I'd appreciate that. It took down a Antelope when I first moved to Colorado and a Elk at 323 yards at the Sangre De Cristo ranch here. It's an amazing load in my personal opinion. Might even move up to the 168 Gr Classic hunter from Berger.
In my travels and over several decades of hunting in the South East I came to know of three types of hunters....#1: Used rifles such as the .30-30, 32 Winchester Special, .35 Remington, and only God knows how many WWI, WWII, Korea Veterans who were perfectly happy with their milsurp 7mm and 8mm Mausers, and more than a few 1903A1s in 30-06 rifles all loaded with the soft point ammo of the era, not to mention the many, many hunters who preferred the same full choke 12GA single, double or pump shotguns they used for everything else for forty or fifty years previously with an even split of 00buck and the old but dependable "punkin' ball" slugs for loadings. #2: showed to hunt every year with a new rifle (or shotgun) but rarely filled their limit if at all And #3: The ones that always worried me the most....They were the newbies.....Never been hunting in their lives, or only rarely, and they came armed with "the latest and greatest wiz bang" rifle (or shotgun) chamberings and loads.....Which they had never fired and could be counted on to show up (if invited again...which was rarely the case) with one of the other "recommended by one or two of the leading gun and shooting magazine writers as the best of the best"....I can't recall the members of the #3 group EVER taking a deer back then.....But there was one man, a WWII Infantry Veteran (D-day to the Rhine) in the #1 grouping who had had his 7mm Mauser completely rebuilt with a new barrel, gorgeous stock, "sporting trigger", chambered in 7mm-08, and mounting one of them new fangled telescope things as my now late Uncle Al, a WWI Veteran, tended to call them. Mr. Adams took deer and hogs every year and kept his two freezers full as a result. As long a our church group hunted together Mr. Adams never failed to take, with one shot, any number of eatin' sized white tail deer and I would not care guess how many feral hogs and wild boar with that beautiful 7mm-08 of his.
Remember the 7x 57 Mauser. Old fashioned by todays standards. A fella called Bell culled hundreds of elephants with the 7x57. Bullet placement . 7-08 same ballistics. Me and my BLR in 7-08 not going elephant hunting but if I shoot it right can get any game I can think off
very good video. obviously a very knowledgeable man. and enjoyable to listen to.
i wish i'd gotten my 7-08 30 yrs ago instead of 3. kicks like my 30-30 but reaches out and lays deer down like my '06. for no harder than it kicks, what it does to deer--and the range at which it'll do it--is just impressive. i shoot hornady whitetail classic shells which are 139gr interlocks. i don't see how you could improve on that caliber and bullet for killing good big midwest deer. very accurate, and gives good big exit holes that would make blood-trailing easy--if it was ever necessary. but so far everything i've shot with it has gone down like a semi hit it. clear out to 350, which is as long a shot as i've ever made.
well that one did stumble about 30 yards before he went down, but i still call that Great.
to me, it's the perfect deer round.
I have been enjoying your videos and hit the sub button on this one. Thanks!
I know it's an old video but my first view. I took a Pronghorn with my 7mm08 this year. 150 gr eldx at 175yds. In the breadbasket out the opposite shoulder on a quartering shot. He went about 15 to 20 yards.
Thank you for this insightful presentation. The 7mm-08 has a great history, and as you mentioned, with the newer bullets is capable if things far greater than its size suggests. From a ballistic standpoint, it closely resembles the 7x57 that has been used in wars and also in African hunting with great success. I'm sure you know that African farmers have used the 7x57 for many decades time to harvest food as well as to eliminate marauding lions, not to mention that Bell used it on many hundreds and hundreds of elephants. The 7mm (non-magnum) rounds are truly outstanding.
Tim Carpenter
Yes, I think you would enjoy my talk concering the great 7x57 Mauser, which has been unfortunately underloaded, underrated, understated, and overlooked in this country. Having greater powder capacity, it has somewhat more potential than the 308 based 7mm version, especially for heavier bullets. But they are all terrific. The case is perfectly proportioned, but every effort to establish it, in any bore diameter, has flopped here, to witt, the 6mm Remington, 257 Roberts, and itself. Its main problem is its midway relationship to the 308 and 30-06 cases on either side. The former is too small, the latter is too big, but the 7x57 case is just right. In any of the abovementioned calibers with the exception of the 6mm, which was mismanaged, the others were significantly underloaded here, which it is not abroad.
@@GunBlue490 (
The 7x57 was Jack O'Connor's wife favorite caliber in her custom built Winchester mod 70.
This is the third time I’ve watched this. Thanks again for your thoughts. 💭
7mm-08 is a very nice cartridge. I'd like to see more interest in it. IMO the case is better suited to a 284 bullet than a 308 bullet.
I could and have listened to this gentleman for hours. What a living encyclopedia he is.
Enjoyed you video. I think I can't go wrong with a 7mm 08. Thanks again.
great video! my friend and i both shoot 7mm-08s for many years... are going this weekend to harvest some whitetail deer . the little 7mms work as well as 30-06 and 7mm rem mags on deer with less meat destruction and with less recoil!
What's the best barrel length for the 7mm-08?
I wanted to interject a thought super fast. There is a surprising deviation between hunters and shooters in general regarding terminal performance of a bullet. Which is worrying simply because physics dictates with fact that a transfer of energy over the shortest period of time does work, and as such damage.
Your wording of the bullet causes tissue damage and as such death is 100 percent correct. And your point that energy the bullet possesses isnt doing the damage is also correct.
What is doing the damage is the transfer of energy to the tissue which is brought about by drag. Drag can be caused by bullet expansion or the bullet encountering structures that provide resistance. Such as bone.
A bullet that does not deliver its energy does absolutely no good even if it brings with it substantial energy. Where that becomes non factual is work done by pressure. With high velocity as you say, substantial work is done by both pressure and vacuum. Also with substantial mass traveling at substantial speed, a lack of pressure behind the bullet causes a very destructive vacuum which is why so much damage can be done to a human or game by a round such as a 50 bmg even without impact on the body.
Anyway, your point that 30-30 is looked down upon but it is one of the primary venison gathering rounds, is a great point. A 30-30 at 100 yards possess roughly the same energy as a 308 at around 300 yards. But where are these deer being taken? 60-120 yards? Which is where the 30-30 shines. Its excellent at harvesting in that range and is honestly devastating. In the same way one would say 308 is devastating out to 400 yards. Very rarely does a deer get taken at 400 yards.
Great video i really enjoyed it
Spoken like a true Hunter...👍
Excellent post.
A .50 BMG wont damage anything if you miss...
I had a Remington 600 in 308 and liked it for its compactness and weight. I later used an identical rifle on an African hunt where I made my longest kill at an estimated 300 yards on an Impala. The recoil never bothered me, but I did eventually get rid of mine because it had a sticky bolt and I didn't want to spend money improving a "budget" rifle. About ten years ago I picked up a secondhand Remington Model 7 in 7-08. It came with a wood youth stock and an adult polymer stock. I kept the wood stock for my kids and hunted with the polymer stock. It's all I've used for the past ten years for deer hunting because it handles very well (better than the 600). The older I get, the more I appreciate lighter non-magnum rifles. W. D. M. Bell used a 7mm for many of his elephant kills in Africa and Jim Corbett used it for dispatching man-killing leopards in India.
Old post but let me comment. I bought a Walmart Youth Model 700 in .243, I think it was about $280. Long story short after I got the gun trashed after loaning it to a friend.
Gave to a Master Smith, got back a sub 6 pound rifle.
Moral of the story is if you have a rifle you like, it's worth investing in.
You remind me of talking to a great friend of mine that’s no longer around. Although, your arguments make WAY more sense than his ever did... I miss ya TC
Try the Remington 660 in 350 REM MAG if you think the 308 win kicks!
I can appreciate what you are saying here Mr Blue. I have two Winchester M70’s in 7x57 and 257 R and I admire the efficiency of those 2 rounds. They have the energy, the ballistics, great bullet selection, low recoil and low muzzle blast. They’re just a pleasure to shoot.
From what Ive read and heard the 7x57 and the 7-08 are pretty close in performance.
He has forgotten more about guns and ammo than I will ever know! What an awesome video.
Had a Winchester mod 88 in 308 and it kicked worse than my 9.3x62 CZ
I used to be a belted mag guy, owning 7mm Rem mags, 300 win mags, and 338 win mags ... then I discovered the 35 Whelen and that ended my mag fixation. Then, shortly after I discovered the 7mm-08. Now I own one 35 Whelen and one 7mm-08, both in Rem 700 cdl sf, and that's all I will ever need. I live in Saskatchewan Canada where I can hunt mule deer and antelope just outside my door on the plains and elk, moose, and white tail in the forests a short drive away. The 7mm-08 has proved to be an outstanding deer rifle, and when handloaded with 150 grain Nosler Accubond Long Range bullets, it's all I will ever need on the plains. It's most often marketed as a cartridge for youths and women ... I find that to be an enormous disservice to the round. It's an accurate and efficient killer of game, without the "manly" brutal kick to the shoulder. I am never going back to the mags :)
If you handoad, you should try the 358 Winchester.
Thank you. Hadn't heard of the 7mm08 until recently, I wasn't sure what to think of it, but now I feel I have a better understanding of the cartridge.
it's well worth the money
good video, I'm currently rechambering my .308 Mauser 98 to a 7mm-08 I'm excited to start shooting. The barrel is in the mail today, Stainless 416r fluted What really got my interest was the different bullets available and the high Bullet Coefficient which means it will have a flatter trajectory than the .308
I have killed deer with numerous cartridges over the years. However, I have without question, killed more deer with the 7mm-08 than any other. It is a fantastic deer cartridge.
Do you think 7mm-08 with good placement would work on a Roosevelt elk bull? Good Lung/Heart shot? I use ttsx/gmx unleaded. Your thoughts?
Done it a lot with Nosler Accu bonds
Have a Browning Micro Hunter LH in 7mm-08. 2X-8X on top. Love it in the woods. Shoots great with 140gr Fusions.
Been on the hunt for a Winchester 7mm-08 ever since you've helped me out. They seem to go really quick around here used. I came across a Winchester Model 70 but in a 7mm mag. Recoil wise what's the difference between it and the 7mm-08? What's your personal opinion on the 7mm mag?
Thank you.
Currently watching your video on the 3 bullets...
EzSkAnKeN 7mag kicks like a 30-06 which is more than 7mm08 but not bad. 7 mag very good cartridge
I just bought the 7mm-08 in the Ruger American go wild camo can't wait to get it set up and shoot it. Thanks for the video.
I just ordered same gun. How do you like it??
@@thews9237 Love it
Another great video from your superb channel. Thank you Sir for sharing your knowledge and wisdom. God Bless.
Do you use 210 primers? I love this caliber! of course I am 74 years old VietNam Vet!
210 is the designation that Federal uses for standard large rifle primers. I've used them. They are the same as any large rifle primer. See my video regarding primers, where I discuss all primers in depth. Welcome home, brother!
Hello Sir,
Does your love for the .257 Roberts or .222 Remington take a back seat to the 7mm 08?
Because of your advice, I am now a .270 Model 70 Super Grade owner. In your opinion what is the long shot range for the .270?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and thoughts. Each new video is like an early Christmas present.
Happy holidays and hello to Benny.
Respectfully,
Rick Mansberger
Rick Mansberger
I am a man of many calibers, and hold a fondness for many. The practical mingles with the sentimental. I have always been an underdogger, and a lover of classic cartidges, too. I don't like to see great cartridges fade away, and have learned that the worth of a cartridge transcends paper ballistics. The 257 Roberts is as classic and useful as they come, and is more especially terrific to me because of its New Hampshire heritage. It was my dad's favorite caliber, and my late shooting mentor knew and shot with the legendary Ned H. Roberts. I shot countless woodchucks as a young man with my fabulous Sako Vixen 222 Remington that never missed with some incredibly long shots. Those are memories that require no ballistic comparison. I carried my 7mm-08 for miles over the years, and it was a wonderful performer and companion. Picking the favorite from that list would be like picking a favorite child. I have yet to speak of others! So stay tuned.
Rick Mansberger
To answer what is the long shot range of the 270 Winchester would be on two accounts. As for point blank range, with a 6 inch midrange trajectory, with no holdover on deer, it is a solid 400 yard performer with good 130 grain loads. For adjusted ranges, using computed holdovers, which I do not subscribe to for game, it is as good as any cartridge with appropriate bullets, in keeping with its terminal performance limitations. While there are cartridges of heavier bullets and energy, in PRACTICAL terms, I consider it the best of the best for a plains rifle, all things considered. The 150 grain bullet makes it a very formidable long range elk or moose cartridge, that has very deep penetration.
Terrific coverage. Especially the comparison between the 270 for Prairies and 7mm-08 for woodlands.
I have one more request for its historical value and because I'm sure your analysis would be so interesting on the subject: The 45-70 Cartridge. It has history with the US Military and there is a photo of Geronimo holding a Springfield Trap Door in a Photograph captured by CS Fly. (Edward Curtis also took some beautiful photos of the Native American during the crisis years).
Would you be so kind as to do a segment on this venerable cartridge when you get the opportunity?
Happy New Year🍸🍾
I´m supper happy with my BLR in 7-08. but I would go to a 7mm Rem Mag for really long range. Way out yonder 500 yds.
Love this video. I've listened to it several times. I own several different calibers and cartridges but for some reason 7mm08 is my favorite.
Ive killed a truck load of deer and hogs with the 7mm08.
The Barnes 120 ttsx at 3,000 fps is pure death on any deer or pig. Id hunt any thing but big bear with a 140 gr sierra hpbt gameking with a max load. Ive shot game with everything from 22 mag to 300 weatherby mag. And for the south east the 7mm08 is hard to beat.
I dont even tote my 7mm rem mag or my 30/06 any longer.
And I sold my 270 because I got 2- 7mm08. A 24" and a 20" ( not alot of velocity loss either in that 20 in) try cutting a 270 down to 20" and see what happens! And honestly my 270 did not shoot as good as either one of my 7 mm08s past 350 yards. It's not the cartridge that's accurate at distance is the rifle itself I don't care what caliber you got if it does not shoot well far away none of that matters.
At the 9:05 mark he says he won’t be doing that much hunting anymore. I was saddened but he’s in a teaching role now.
Out west he said
Thank you . Very thorough video on one of the most popular cartridges in our deer camp.
Glad to see Benny doing well in one of your other videos. 🇺🇸
What about 25-06 Remington
Long action vs short
The 7mm-08 is alright if 150 grain at the most is all you need to shoot. The problem with it, is you run out of case if you want to use heavier bullets. The 280 Remington is a better fit because you can use heavier bullets more efficiently.
Another stellar video. And prophetic -- "won't be as popular as those calibers with military heritage" - In these crazy times, I can't find a single listing for 7mm-08.
Very informative and interesting. Thank you!
My father built a custom 7mm-08 out of milled down machine gun barrel and Mauser 98 action. It was lost and I can’t wait to get another one in the family.
What weight bullet would you choose for the 7mm08 for Eastern white-tailed deer? Thank you.
This guy is a living,breathing encyclopedia of firearms/ballistics.
Thinking of using a 140 grain Accubond in 7mm08 for CO Mountain Goat. Thoughts?
I’ve killed many whitetail deer with numerous calibers. If I had to give them all up but one, the 7-08 would be the one still gracing my gun safe. Awesome whitetail cartridge !
Love the newsworthy commentaries and advice. I wish you'd do a comprehensive commentary on heavy vs light barrels, length of barrels, grades of barrels-custom vs store-bought. I've seen ads for 20 inch 243 barrels in a Savage Axis vs 20 inch heavy barrel in a Ruger. What length is best for 270/25-06, 22, 24 or 26, etc.
I don't understand why you don't have at least 600k followers. Your knowledge, insight and experience in this world is priceless.
Apparently, most viewers confuse loud vulgar chit chat, tattoos, glitzy lead-ins, loud music, and blasting cement blocks with knowledge, insight, and experience.
@@GunBlue490 Well thank you for what you do for us!
Personally l prefer .30 06 with the 165grn. Rem corelokt bullet.The easiest way to know for sure that you are using the right bullet is to spend a bit more and hunt with the partition bullet. Having said that l also want the 24 “ barrel.
Please set up a Patreon so we can support your work financially.
I love the .280 Rem. That way you got the best of both worlds. If you hand load it will cut the cost of ammo and you can make a load that you and the gun likes.
Hey GB, great vid! Just wondering what your thoughts are on a 7mm-08 for Kudu in South Africa. I was thinking of using a 160 gr bullet. Thanks!
john SMITH
I have never been to Africa, but on the basis of body weight, the Kudu is approximately the mass of a large female elk or a caribou, which are routinely taken with the 7mm-08. Use a very good bullet of either 150 or 160 grain, and you should have more than enough gun.
thank you for sharing the knowledge and wisdom. what do you know about the .284 Winchester? It looks really good as an all-around North America cartridge. Would It be worth the effort of hand loading? I do like having things that go against the mainstream. thanks again!!!
GB, I wanted to thank you for your great videos. I had done a little deer hunting years ago and late last year was invited to join a deer hunt this fall. Well that meant I needed to purchase some equipment as I sold all my guns years ago. The internet can be a confusing place when you are looking for a deer rifle. That is until I began watching your videos. Much the same as you, I like wooden stocks and not any more recoil than necessary. I remembered the 30 06's as effective as they might be, pounded my shoulder more that I cared for. I knew I would need a lot of practice, and what you said about the 7mm 08 made sense to me. So then it came to purchasing a rifle. I settled for a Winchester Model 70 featherweight in 7mm 08. Epps here in Ontario ordered one in that caliber for me. I am grateful, and very pleased with it. It says made in Portugal right on the barrel and I have to say that on a few gun forms there were comments that were not kind to Portugal. I was not worried, I am a wood worker and I knew that the Portuguese were well respected for their wooden boat craftsmanship. The craftsmanship on my M70 is very good, it's a beautiful gun. I followed your lead and had a Leupold VX 2, 2-7x33 mounted on it with Leupold rings and bases. I had never owned a rifle with a scope and now that I do, I am glad I followed your advise. It should work perfect for whitetail deer. I need to get lots of practice in, and work on my form. But the rifle is a pleasure to shoot, feeds and ejects flawlessly and I am enjoying it as much as I have enjoyed your videos. Many thanks!
Thank you for sharing that. Speaking as an owner of a newer Model 70 Featherweight myself, I can attest to their incredibly fine workmanship and accuracy, which is second to none. You've got glass bedding and free floating, which is virtually unheard of in any factory gun. Two American firms retired the Winchester name and went under, due to their inability to continue production, even after cheap cost cutting had been implemented. We can't blame FN (who also makes Browning)for picking up the pieces and resurrecting Winchester gun, which they restored to pre-64 features and quality that exceeds any pre-64 I have ever seen. I could not be happier that I can still buy a new Winchester, whether it's made in Portugal or Japan, considering the alternative if FN didn't rescue the name. I respect those who buy American products only, and I endorse pro-American buying, when practical, but we had our chance with the Winchester name, and I'm very happy that someone came along to keep it going, better than ever. The Portuguese make very fine guns, which are as fine and as strong as any in the world. You have a fine rifle and scope combo!
The Winchester M70s produced since FN has taken over the company are superb. Fabrique National is one of the most-respected firearms manufacturers in the world, and they don't disappoint with the new M70s; I can't recommend them enough
GunBlue, thank you for recommending the 7mm 08, I harvested a nice sized whitetail with my M70 Featherweight in 7mm 08. It was really anti-climatic, one shot, dropped on the spot, and that was that. Plenty of power for whitetail and mild recoil. The bullet passed right through without damaging too much meat.
I wish I would have loaded up on model 700’s back when Remington didn’t suck.
nice to have a new video from you. any chance you might do a video on 6.5 cartridges? (preferably 6.5x55). I would love to hear your take on that particular round.
Shade Woodhull
I'll put it on my list.
Jan Åkerman a swede shoot1000 moose with a 6,5 55 so its works.
For a larger caliber I have used a .308 which has certainly done well so far, but I have recently been thinking of diversifying a bit in order to have a slightly smaller caliber for smaller game and a larger one for larger game, exactly in order to have a larger heavier bullet than the .308 would handle well, and also in order to reduce recoil for training and "everyday" hunting. I gather from what you say that a larger bullet at a lower speed does the better job. My hunting is also woods or fields, out to approx. 250 yards.
Might I ask your opinion on the combination of a 7mm-08 for "everyday" use with a 358 Winchester for large game, or would I be just as well off with something like .260 Winchester or 6,5x47 Lapua (or an other 6.5 mm) instead of the 7mm-08 as I would still have the .358 for the somewhat larger game? I don't know how small game would be more efficiently hunted with a .358 than a 7mm-08.
I do hope you keep up your excellent work with your highly informative videos. They are not only informative, but also very enjoyable presentations.
Sten Møller
The 7mm-08 is smaller in diameter than the 308, but is certainly not a "smaller" caliber. In fact, the 140 grain 7mm bullet has significantly greater sectional density (penetration), and far better ballistic coefficient (exterior ballistic trajectory and wind resistance) than the 150 grain 30 caliber. A 7mm-08 with the proper bullet will handle any game, quite efficiently, without heavy recoil. Higher speed equivalents are terrific for extended ranges, where a bullet must cover ground before striking. Of course, by then, their speed has dropped to a less destructive velocity. The 7mm-08 is quite comparable to the venerable and very well respected 7x57 Mauser, and actually has slightly better performance in factory ammunition than the old Mauser, which has a very good reputation around the world.
Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy the practical aspect you bring.
Just bought another 7mm-08! This time it’s a Browning BLR White Gold Medallion! I think it’s the MOST underrated cartridge out there.
I bought one a month ago. Savage rifle
@gunblue490
I like your videos. What do you think of the 25-06?
common sense
It's a very good round, with a bit more versatility than the 257 Roberts when handloaded, but with commercial loads is rather restricted to plains hunting for medium sized game. It's too destructive for close woodland shots, but is a good alternative for the 270 Winchester, though the 270 can be considered a better heavy game round for moose and elk, due to better frontal area.
I have a model 7 , it’s about 15 years old , great rifle, but sometimes it won’t pick up a shell when feeding, same caliber 7mm-08. Any thoughts?
The statement about energy vs tissue damage is so true. Anyone who has seen, firsthand, what a broadhead does to a deer's breadbasket knows this.
Hello Sir. I love your videos and your common sense. I have enjoyed many of them and this video on the 7mm-08 has me thinking of purchasing a rifle chambered in this calibre. Just looking for an entry level rifle and a retailer here has one Savage Axis with a 20 inch barrel and a Mossberg 4x4 with a 22 inch barrel. I understand that the shorter barrel would have an effect on muzzle velocity but with my experience (that of being new to big game hunting but not new to shooting), I would not look to shoot at anything over 250 yards. I see myself mostly going after mule and whitetail deer in Alberta and more bush than prairie. Would you recommend one length over the other or maybe one manufacturer over the other. In all honesty, it is the price of these two rifles that has me interested in them. If you think I would be better off saving for a little longer to buy something else that would be OK to hear that too.
Kris Wright
Kris, thanks for your comments. The 22 inch barrel will certainly afford you greater velocity, which is beneficial in the 7mm-08, but without ever being excessive. But the longer barrel provides another significant advantage, in holding steadiness and in recoil reduction, while still being very comfortable to carry. The 7mm-08 is a very accurate cartridge that deserves a very accurate gun, which either of the two that you mentioned can be. Let me offer you perspective on it that will be very important to you long after your purchase, from an old timers experience, and I gathered a clue from your own comment that it would apply to you. Yes, save up for more, for a beautiful gun that goes beyond accurate utility, for one that you will be proud to own for the rest of your life. Otherwise, whatever you buy now will be just a lost value trade in not far down the road. Of the many fine guns on the market that fills this category, my personal favorite is the venerable Winchester Model 70 Featherweight, which is featured in a few of my videos, chambered in 257 Roberts. It has everything in spades; superb accuracy out of the box, fabulous trigger, knockout looks, 22 inch lightweight barrel, three position safety, Mauser style controlled feed with claw extractor, and gorgeously appointed wood and metal. The latest version, which was introduced a decade ago, returns to the pre-1964 Mauser extractor design that was so favored. In 7mm-08, it would be several ounces less than mine (bigger hole and shorter action). Actually, the price is fairly competitive at less than $800 in many areas and certainly worth the extra couple of hundred for the classic and time honored Riflemans Rifle. A number of gun writers contributed their comments on the gun at a Winchester invitational shoot several years ago, that's posted on line, and it speaks volumes. Paired with a light 2-7 variable, would be perfect for anything from brush to prairie.
Thank you for your reply and advice. It is ironic that you mentioned a model 70 featherweight as I might have an opportunity to buy a used 270 mod 70 featherweight with muzzle break and Swarovski 3-9 scope. It is in ok shape, a few scratches and dings, but if I could bother you with another question. What would be a ballpark price for that gun?
Kris Wright
To be very honest, I'd pass on it. Add-on aftermarket muzzle brakes really destroy gun value, and it's entirely unnecessary on a 270, plus it generates terrible muzzle blast to the sides and rear, which is extremely annoying to the shooter and bystanders, and hurtful to the ears. If it's a used post-64 gun before they were bought by Fabrique Nationale about 10 years ago (Browning's parent company) from US Repeating Arms, or even the original Winchester company, the gun has limited value. Such guns are identified easily, having no Mauser style extractor on the side of the bolt. The Swarovski scope is nice, but 3-9 is worthless for woodland hunting. 2x is as high as you should go for the low power setting, and even 1.5x is best. The caliber is wonderful, but very often, muzzle brakes corrupt the accuracy badly. If you really want the gun, I would negotiate a price of no more than $350 without the scope if it's a post-64, but pre-FN. But, frankly, I would look elsewhere, unless it's a real deal that you can unload if you find the muzzle brake objectionable. Cutting a barrel on a 270 is not good, as they need every bit of 22 inches, and that would kill all value, so there's no cutting off the brake. Sorry to pour cold water on it. I speak from personal experience, having been stuck with a gun not much different many years ago. I lost my shirt.
I really enjoy the comment section of your video, and your replies are off the chart in terms of logical information and passion you share in this pursuit
The Winchester model 70 is excellent. If you truly have a tight budget, the Ruger American “Go Wild” can be had for ~400-450 US. Also, muzzle devices only corrupt accuracy if the threading was done improperly or if of poor design to begin with. A suppressor is often a three fold advantage buy reducing recoil, significantly reducing muzzle flash, and bringing the sound level down. Also note that muzzle break, and flash hiders serve two different purposes and are designed accordingly. There is overlap between the two , but the ones that try for best of both tend to not do either one well
I really like the 7mm-08 cartridge. When buying my first deer rifle I thought long and hard about the 7mm-08. I ended up buying a .308 instead simply because I don't reload and I live in NY. It's a Winchester Model 70 featherweight. Unfortunately there aren't many online retailers that ship ammo to NY. At least to your door anyway. It's legal now but many retailers haven't caught up with the new laws. In my area 7mm-08 is kind of hard to find and if you find it, they usually only have 1 or 2 loads available. I bought the .308 instead because ammo is found very easily. If I could do it again and I didn't live in NY, I probably would have got a 7mm-08 instead.
Neal Leavitt That was a good caliber for that gun. The featherweight came out the same year as the 308
Neal Leavitt Same here man.
Taylors knock down power is bullet weight x caliber x energy divide by 7000.
Bought a youth savage in 7mm-08 a few years ago for my sons. Both have dropped deer in their tracks and I’ve also shot a couple deer and pigs with it. All done with reduced recoil loads. It is an awesome round.
I know one of the benefits of the 308 cartridge are the 7 mm 08 versus a cartridge like the 7*57 Mauser is that th e 7-08 ammo is loaded to a higher pressure 65k PSI vs 52k psi. If I took a 7x57 Mauser and ran it in a long action modern rifle or even a Tikka which I believe is one size action accommodates all the standard and small or short action cartridges but ran it in a modern rifle and hand loaded could I increase that pressure to the equal that of the 7mm-08. I know the car just told a few more grains of powder and if I actually improved both cartridges I believe I would get even a little more out of the Mauser cartridge possibly an extra 5 grains maybe 7. I just know that factory ammunition because of older rifles is neuturd
Nonsense on heart shots. I have hunted at least as long as you and have shot many deer, moose and elk. Animals hit in the heart travel about 3 ft......straight down. Otherwise, great videos.
My favorite cartridge right now.
Will a 243 be sufficient for whitetail deer up to to 200 yards in the Southeast or should I go with the 7mm-08? Getting older and would like less recoil but want to put the animal down quick and humanely as possible.