@@YandereGogeta now that I think about it, aren't all protags unique in their own way? You got Makoto Yuki who's become Apathetic towards life after being traumatized from losing his parents, Yu Narukami who keeps a calm demeanor and is like a detective, then there's Ren Amamiya, who's got it rough due to a falsely given criminal record
And Adachi is the first serial killer Persona user. It also definitively retcons that weird tangental Persona 3 anime where adults cannot use Personas.
Im 41. My first RPG was Secret of Mana on its release and Chrono Trigger would later solidify my love of RPGs. I have avoided the Persona series all this time and recently I decided to check it out. I started with P4 and my god is it phenomenal. I agree with feeling nostalgic even though I shouldnt its really odd but you are in no way alone on that.
Persona 4 is a game that honestly kept the person franchise alive with all the spin-off, adaptation, re-release, and like you said the music has so much meaning in the game, like it's a character too that's pushing you to find the culprit.
True... Not only persona franchise but it honestly revived and saved the whole JRPG genre during the time it was released... They revolutionized the genre... The hate on it is from those who just started playing because of the P5R hype... That's why they do not understand the significance of P4G.
@@southiesboxbreakphretrogaming yup, but persona 5 was why first persona game hence why I like it so much and played all the spin-off and enjoyed every minute of it, I've always wanted to play persona 4 and 3 since I saw the cool design of the characters and interesting storylines and wasn't disappointed
p3 kept the franchise alive.. im pretty sure its the only reason we even got 4 and 5 because it got atlus out of bankruptcy, so if you ever enjoy 4 just remember 3 is the reason why it exists 😉
@@Glad72As a fellow P3 stan, I think P4 cemented the franchise's place into mainstream gaming culture in a way that P3 didn't quite manage. Like, P3 was the fascinating but flawed cult classic while P4 was the real breakthrough hit that was more polished and accesible while still having a unique feel. Think Demon's Souls to Dark Souls.
Mate I am a 50 years old & recently retired from the Military ! I just found your channel and I am about to start my Persona journey !!! Great video ! As an older gamer I am excited to commence this new journey as I can see it’s well loved ! Cheers Brother, keep up the good work.
Thank you for the support man! I hope you enjoy the series it’s by far my favorite video game series! If you need any tips feel free to ask me on Twitter or something like that if you have it!
Persona 4 Golden was AMAZING to play for the first time!! I started off watching the Anime first, so I kind of took away some hype of the story, but the Social Links that weren´t really shown have still been nice to witness firsthand! I love Inaba and after around 200 hours of Playtime I would rank Persona 4 Golden in my top 3 next to Q and Innocent Sin. It may be a bit Old but it is (Pun Intended) golden. The Soundtrack is SO GOOD! I agree 100 Percent! Heaven and Your Affection are so good to listen too. Secret Laboratory gave me goosebumps the first time I entered that Dungeon
I started with P5R, then played P3R, and I’m still playing P4G but P4 blew my mind while I was playing it. I love the characters, the story, the vibes, the music. Everything about this game was perfect to me. I feel like 5 started getting me into jrps but 4 got me hooked on them. Also I started playing P4 this year and I get what you mean about it feeling nostalgic
Hey dude you’re honestly really underrated, I really love your analysis and more introspective type analysis of the persona games. Keep up the good work I love having your videos in the background while I do my school work💙💙💛💛
I completely agree with you, P4 is such a special game to me. As someone who grew up in a rural area, I could really relate to a group of dumb teenagers running around goofing off. It gave off summer time vibes and I really enjoyed it. When I look at the cast of characters in this game, I absolutely love almost all of them. I adore pretty much the entire investigation team, so when I got to that ending when they are running after the train during the goodbye, thanking you for everything, it hits me so hard. That's one thing that I think the modern Persona games do a fantastic job with: by the end, you do not want to leave these characters and I think that's a testament to just how fantastic they really are. P4 is my favorite soundtrack as well, although I think the 3 and 5 soundtracks get more love in general. I love the pop vibes, standouts to me are Heartbreak, Heartbreak, Signs of Love, Heaven and Snowflakes (The last two still genuinely make me emotional whenever I hear them, they are that powerful). Overall, I completely relate to you when you said that this is a "comfort game" for you because it's the same for me. The combination of the music, the small town, and these endearing characters are like a ray of sunshine poking through the fog.
Thank you for leaving this comment I loved reading it! I have to agree with your point about the Persona games making you not want to leave. I always call it the "Post Persona Depression" because it's always a bittersweet feeling to know you've used up all the time you have with the characters you've grown to love. Playing Persona 3 Reload, even after playing FES, Portable, and watching the movies, it still hurts to know the game is over. It's cool to know so many people share similar feelings as I do in that regard.
I love Persona 4. Although 5 is my favorite, I'm super excited to play P4 again. Narukami is my favorite Protagonist from Persona. I love his personality from the anime and the spinoffs, as well as his relationship with Nanako.
I had really similliar experience. I started with P5R and it changed my life and after that played P4G and its BY FAR my favorite out of these games, and one of my all time favorites
Persona 4 always nailed the little town feeling for me. While Persona 2,3 and 5 felt like the main cast were pursuing a big case all the time with little comic reliefs here and there. Persona 4 feels like a big comic relief with bit of murder here and there. I can't explain why, but it always felt like the main cast is having a blast throughout the whole game, which is only enhanced by the great anime adaptation (especially the English dub). Also, like you mentioned the Social links, for me, are the best of the series by far, they just feel real and are delivered amazing. Especially Naoki, Marie and Yukiko are my personal fav. I think the best way to describe Persona 4 for me is that it's an incredible journey pressed into code for me to play and just have a good time, something no other game achieved until now.
i started with 5 and left it for a few years just to come back to 4 a few months back and finish it in a month and attempted to replay it whilst it's barely playable after the first time since the plot made the game feel worth playing instead of the crawling of the badly made dungeons
Nice video man! Persona 4 is awsome, and it bring such a nice "small town anime" kind of vibe. Its awsome, and i dont mind the interactions between each other. Your spot on about the vibe. Keep up the awsome and amazing work my brother! God bless!
I do like this soundtrack better than p5s. It's just so youthful and the amount of layers in the music rly shines. There's so much going on, like in Your Affection, which has a ton of instruments layered in. The battle songs are rly great and the riffs are so catchy. Hirata's voice is one of the few cases where it sounds the same in the studio and live. P5s soundtrack sounded more mature with the acid jazz, Lyn is a great singer, and "New Beginning" was so good, but p4s captured the youthful spirit of a game with high schoolers better.
my 1st persona game was p4g back on my vita, and even tho it’s not my fave in the series anymore, I still absolutely treasure the game with all my heart. I played it at the perfect time in my life, where I was living in a small town and joined a new school. it was like fate lol. but yeah, tho persona 3 will forever be my fave game, I still acknowledge, appreciate, and love persona 4 for everything it did for me, and others too :) great video! 👏
Persona 4 is absolutely my favorite game in the series, and one of my favorite games of all time for many of the same reasons you listed here! It's just got such a cozy vibe, and I could play this game over and over and never get tired of it! The characters and this setting both hold such a special place in my heart. (And of course, the phenomenal soundtrack.)
As someone who beat the game for the first time a few days ago,I can definitely appreciate P4G being a great change of pace from P3FES with a more quiet down to earth atmosphere,friendlier group of party members and more upbeat tone compared to P3’s moodiness.I also think the TV Theming[esp the UI]and TV World are very fascinating and unique.However the simplified combat(they combined all phys types which doesnt sit well with me),removal of weapon fusion,less varied party members and simplified dungeons(for the most part)prevent me from liking it more than P3FES unfortunately.I still love the game tho,Id just rather play P3FES.🤷🏽♂️
I can agree with that, I played Persona 3 Reload and while I liked the story, the characters, the flow of the story, it always has that depressive tone. I instantly bought Persona 4 Golden to play the next game and wow, what a difference. I just love the story and the characters and how they're written and me as a writer, love to see that.
Even after playing 3 & 5 I still think 4 was the best persona. Maybe it’s my nostalgia being the first one I played but it just has such cosy vibes and helped me get through a lonely period of high school.
I'm a Persona 3 stan but I respect the hell out of Persona 4. P3 was, in all honesty, a game with rough edges and divisive elements aplenty. P4 managed to be more polished and accesible while still feeling unique. I like to think of Persona 4 as the Dark Souls to Persona 3's Demon's Souls, if that makes sense.
100% agree with your points. I fucking love Persona 4, and I really don't think I'd be who I am today without that game. The theme of pursuing your true self is just way too relatable.
I’m really glad that P4G was my entry point into this great franchise in early 2023 after 3, 4 and 5 came to Xbox. By far my favourite game in the franchise and ranks among my favourite games I’ve ever played. It’s the only one of the three where I have double digit playthroughs (for context: 10 for P4G, 6 for P3P and 4 for P5R) and I’m still tempted to go back to experience this game again just to hang out in Inaba or watch through the anime adaptation again for the glorious memes and absolute gut punches. Hard to believe it all started from watching the P4 dancing intro and Rizzo’s P3 analysis video.
While I would say that Persona 5 is my favourite in terms of Story, Characters, gameplay and vibes. Persona 4 is truly something special and I in my opinion that both P3, P4 and P5 are truly amazing games that are made with love and imagination from a dev team with passion and not made from a focus test group made for money. Each game has its own story to tell with its own message to say. All 3 games have changed the lives of a lot of people and if a game can do that, you know it is a keeper. Thank you Altus for the amazing adventures and the memories we share.
The Investigation team is such a solid group who is all strong individually... They sacrificed their life for YU... I lovehow personal each social link P4G is... They told lengthy and meaningful stories...P3R social links was too short, P5R confidant is too Machiavellian... The Vibe is what sets P4G apart from all and the lovable characters
P4's dungeon gameplay became wayyyy too overhated after reload came out, ive heard ppl genuinely say they dropped the game because of it which is insane to me! Especially when it plays almost exactly the same as p5r and p3r, just without the baton pass. And while it is a fun addition i really don't think it's such a fundamental core of persona's combat to the point of dropping the game over.
To me, P4 is my least favorite of the modern persona trilogy, but i do agree to the fact that recently it’s getting some undeserved hate. P5 is amazing and P3 just got a remake, so of course P4 feels overshadowed. Yes like i said, it’s also my least favorite but i still enjoyed it a lot and comparing it to P5R and P3R is just not fair. Just give it some time, i’m sure that when P4 replay, P4 rewind or whatever they are going to call the remake comes out, P4 will finally be loved like never before once again!
Bro that social link mod u got is so unfair lmfao I have had up to like 12 tabs open for social link guides at a time and I’m just going back and forth through them all. Especially now for my replay cause I’m trying to get the max all the social links achievement
I think I have an idea as to why Persona 4 gets flack some of the time (especially as of recent years), and it's a combination of its overt praise (justified or not) leading to be seen as overhyped, large misunderstandings and misinformation about the story content of the game (usually in wildly different directions), and the fact that it is an anime-style RPG with all of the common tropes some people actively despise (such as scenes of fanservice). This tends to happen quite often with hugely popular story driven games (especially when the subject matter tackles quite nuanced topics), even more so when said game is firmly set in a presentation style often viewed with disdain from other visual styles in the medium. That, and there are people that always view the popular option as "overrated" or "overhyped", regardless of the quality of content.
Persona 4 Golden is really good in terms of making you feel nostalgic. Even if I didn't even live in a small town for a while, it still delivers the "golden days" feel so well. One of my favorite games for sure.
P5 is a better game, but P4 is the unique one for sure... No other game makes me almost sad with nostalgia. That intro song gives me highschool flashbacks every time, wishing I made more of my life lol what the heck.
I enjoyed it. However, certain line deliveries and moments in the game annoy me irrationally. They are small moments but they pile up for me greatly. Don't get me wrong. I think Persona 4 Golden, aside the earpiercing harmonica and weirdly overly happy even for the setting and story opening, is great and is worth experiencing along with its predecessor and successor. I personally find the story and characters from Persona 3 Reload and Persona 5 to be more appealing and relatable for me. I specified Persona 3 Reload because, at least for the English version for the PS2 game, I could never take anything seriously due to the weird vocal directions for many of the characters, especially Fuuka who I headcannoned as being a future serial killer due to how she sounds. That thing about the Golden opening and the harmonica has solidified my hatred for harmonicas as musical instruments. Yes, the first thing I want to hear whenever I boot up a game that I like is the screeching sound of a harmonica.
Nah persona 3 is what I feel like captures what persona is about because Makoto goes from being someone who doesn’t care at all to someone who cares about everybody through the trails he faces and you can actively see it through SL as well and in 3 SEES wasn’t actually a friend group which is very realistic because they were drawn together because of their similarities and in real life your not going to become best friends with a group of abt 7 people but you’ll most likely have a great connection to them and the answer builds on this greatly
I wouldn't entirely say that, but I do think people exaggerate the flaws of it a lot. Like I said even I think there are really bad parts about the main story, but overall I think it's an amazing experience
I prefer Persona 3 Reload. The characters are so human, tragic but funny at the same time, the soundtrack is absolutely peak with Mass Destruction, Moon's Reaching Stars, Color Your Night, Memories of You and so much more. I love all the main cast and is my favorite Persona group and the most important thing of why I love P3 is the super powerful and beautiful message about enjoying your life to the very end and even if you don't know it, all of us have a reason to be alive and see the meaning of life in different ways, it's one of the most human messages I ever saw in a videogame. That's why I think P3 is by far the best Persona game.🌸🌸🌸✊✊✊
As someone who ranks p4 as the 4th game in the series, imo this games has too many flaws to stand with the others like p2is, p3r and p5r. For starters yes the vibes are immaculate, simple as that. The story tho? Ngl i don't like it at all, p4 is advertised as a murder mystery game, but everything relevant to the investigation literally starts after Naoto joins, 50 into the game, and she has all the info and more even tho she didn't participate in the IT investigation, that's honestly so funny to me, before that the game's structure like p5 is very episodical, but it's imo very boring since we repeat the same sequence of events only to have a new party member, but clues on the actual mystery, the game even wastes an entire arc on someone who clearly is not the killer, other problems i have with the story is that the killer is easy as hell to figure out, and if you count that out if the way you get a game that's 60% made of slice of life scenes that while funny do not add anything relevant to the overarching plot. The killer reveal is great even if obvious but the sequence of poorly foreshadowed god, the Marie part, which i actively dislike as well as her character in general, since i find her the definition of shoved in, and the finale with another poorly foreshadowed god, didn't make me enjoy my time with p4. The cast is funny i agree, but i find them to be the weakest developed cast in the series, with p1, that's because they do not develop, they face their shadows but a single conversation is not enough to develop a character for a 80 hour game, characters like yosuke, naoto and kanji are what should have been the standard for the party, but unfortunately it isn't, we have a potentially great dynamic between chie and Yukiko that goes nowhere because we never see them talk things out, we have Rise who has a nice introductory arc only to be relegated to the uwu senpai cliché, and Teddie is kind of dumb, but honestly liked him. As you can see i don't like half of the main party therefore seeing them doing nothing for a great part of the story wasn't as enjoyable to me. Music is great, my favorite is p5's but p4's is great, even tho i don't really like the singer some vocal songs are objectively peak Gameplay wise, i mean p4 is now the oldest of the modern games, but the gameplay is solid enough that honestly it doesn't need a remake at all, it's still pretty enjoyable. Social links are good although many a bit forgettable, but i honestly love all the sl/confidants at the same level so yeah Overall p4 is imo a great concept, with a strong theme that didn't resonate with me as much as p3's and p5's, however it also has so many things it does wrong not even as a story but as a game that i cannot rank it on the same level of either the p2 duology, persona 3 reload and persona 5 royal, since thise games basically changed my life. Even tho i seem to dislike p4 i actually love it for what it is, hell i even got the platinum 2 times lmao, it's still one of my favorite games ever but the other set a bar so high that p4 didn't manage to reach it, even tho it came very close
Sorry, but I actually think that P4 is the weakest from the latest three persona mainline games. The dungeons and battles are sooooo boring and the story picks up only in November - which is basically endgame. It cannot match the depth of 3 and the playability of 5.
For me it's Persona 3 Reload at last, they are all peak but with Persona 4 Golden being my favorite and Persona 5 getting me into the franchise in the first place, I just have some bias lol
@@YandereGogeta I absolutely dread the dungeon/palace aspects of these games tbh. I kinda like it more now that I’m better at the game, but it’s still not super fun for me. The social sim is what I enjoy from these games, and I think persona 5 has the weakest social links. That and u have momentos on top of the tedious gimmicky palaces, and it just gets old real fast. Easily earns least favorite on my list. But rn im back and forth rn with reload and golden for my favorite
@@AkiraRambles peep my reply in the thread it wouldn’t let me @ u both lmfao but as far as reload tho for me has the some of coziest music and some of the best social links. I love walking around the city or school choosing what social link ima do while the music goes on. Also being in the dorm too
@@LilWeySoIcy oh for sure if we’re talking about osts, Reload would be above Royal for me. Although I like the social links in p5 a little more cause coffee dad, akechi, iwai, and maruki, and hifumi to name some. I’ll admit I love the little hangouts you can do with shinji and the male roommates alongside the other links.
@@Now_Roxas it is statistically proven that asking makes people want to do it. I’m sorry that it offended you *that* much but I will probably continue to do it
We all have differences about P4G, but let's all agree on one thing: Nanako Dojima is a treasure that must be under 24/7 protection.
Truer words have never been spoken.
@@YandereGogeta now that I think about it, aren't all protags unique in their own way? You got Makoto Yuki who's become Apathetic towards life after being traumatized from losing his parents, Yu Narukami who keeps a calm demeanor and is like a detective, then there's Ren Amamiya, who's got it rough due to a falsely given criminal record
@@Ron_Keffer You are 100% correct. It’s why I like the protags a lot despite their mostly silent nature
@@YandereGogeta Well, Makoto and Yu are silent outside of saying "Persona". We hear Ren speak speak.
And Adachi is the first serial killer Persona user. It also definitively retcons that weird tangental Persona 3 anime where adults cannot use Personas.
finally, someone who LOVES Your Affection
One of the best songs in the entire series
You mean there’s actually people who don’t like your affection?
@@LilWeySoIcy by LOVES i mean LOVES
@@LilWeySoIcy i didnt like it at first but like most of p4's sountrack it grew on me heavily
It's literally my favorite persona song
Im 41. My first RPG was Secret of Mana on its release and Chrono Trigger would later solidify my love of RPGs. I have avoided the Persona series all this time and recently I decided to check it out. I started with P4 and my god is it phenomenal. I agree with feeling nostalgic even though I shouldnt its really odd but you are in no way alone on that.
Persona 4 is a game that honestly kept the person franchise alive with all the spin-off, adaptation, re-release, and like you said the music has so much meaning in the game, like it's a character too that's pushing you to find the culprit.
True... Not only persona franchise but it honestly revived and saved the whole JRPG genre during the time it was released... They revolutionized the genre... The hate on it is from those who just started playing because of the P5R hype... That's why they do not understand the significance of P4G.
@@southiesboxbreakphretrogaming yup, but persona 5 was why first persona game hence why I like it so much and played all the spin-off and enjoyed every minute of it, I've always wanted to play persona 4 and 3 since I saw the cool design of the characters and interesting storylines and wasn't disappointed
@@hxntaiguy3318 good for you. Don't listen to those P4/P4G haters they don't know what they saying
p3 kept the franchise alive.. im pretty sure its the only reason we even got 4 and 5 because it got atlus out of bankruptcy, so if you ever enjoy 4 just remember 3 is the reason why it exists 😉
@@Glad72As a fellow P3 stan, I think P4 cemented the franchise's place into mainstream gaming culture in a way that P3 didn't quite manage.
Like, P3 was the fascinating but flawed cult classic while P4 was the real breakthrough hit that was more polished and accesible while still having a unique feel. Think Demon's Souls to Dark Souls.
Mate I am a 50 years old & recently retired from the Military ! I just found your channel and I am about to start my Persona journey !!! Great video ! As an older gamer I am excited to commence this new journey as I can see it’s well loved ! Cheers Brother, keep up the good work.
Thank you for the support man! I hope you enjoy the series it’s by far my favorite video game series! If you need any tips feel free to ask me on Twitter or something like that if you have it!
I’m actually going to be starting P4G soon for the first time! I played the other two and thoroughly enjoyed them, so I can’t wait!
I hope you enjoy it!
Persona 4 Golden was AMAZING to play for the first time!! I started off watching the Anime first, so I kind of took away some hype of the story, but the Social Links that weren´t really shown have still been nice to witness firsthand! I love Inaba and after around 200 hours of Playtime I would rank Persona 4 Golden in my top 3 next to Q and Innocent Sin. It may be a bit Old but it is (Pun Intended) golden. The Soundtrack is SO GOOD! I agree 100 Percent! Heaven and Your Affection are so good to listen too. Secret Laboratory gave me goosebumps the first time I entered that Dungeon
I started with P5R, then played P3R, and I’m still playing P4G but P4 blew my mind while I was playing it. I love the characters, the story, the vibes, the music. Everything about this game was perfect to me. I feel like 5 started getting me into jrps but 4 got me hooked on them.
Also I started playing P4 this year and I get what you mean about it feeling nostalgic
Yes! Ebihara is great! She was someone I hated at first, but then truly grew to love at the end
@@dgc1570 she’s the goat
Hey dude you’re honestly really underrated, I really love your analysis and more introspective type analysis of the persona games. Keep up the good work I love having your videos in the background while I do my school work💙💙💛💛
Thank you so much that means a lot to hear!
I completely agree with you, P4 is such a special game to me. As someone who grew up in a rural area, I could really relate to a group of dumb teenagers running around goofing off. It gave off summer time vibes and I really enjoyed it. When I look at the cast of characters in this game, I absolutely love almost all of them. I adore pretty much the entire investigation team, so when I got to that ending when they are running after the train during the goodbye, thanking you for everything, it hits me so hard. That's one thing that I think the modern Persona games do a fantastic job with: by the end, you do not want to leave these characters and I think that's a testament to just how fantastic they really are. P4 is my favorite soundtrack as well, although I think the 3 and 5 soundtracks get more love in general. I love the pop vibes, standouts to me are Heartbreak, Heartbreak, Signs of Love, Heaven and Snowflakes (The last two still genuinely make me emotional whenever I hear them, they are that powerful). Overall, I completely relate to you when you said that this is a "comfort game" for you because it's the same for me. The combination of the music, the small town, and these endearing characters are like a ray of sunshine poking through the fog.
Thank you for leaving this comment I loved reading it! I have to agree with your point about the Persona games making you not want to leave. I always call it the "Post Persona Depression" because it's always a bittersweet feeling to know you've used up all the time you have with the characters you've grown to love. Playing Persona 3 Reload, even after playing FES, Portable, and watching the movies, it still hurts to know the game is over. It's cool to know so many people share similar feelings as I do in that regard.
I love Persona 4. Although 5 is my favorite, I'm super excited to play P4 again. Narukami is my favorite Protagonist from Persona. I love his personality from the anime and the spinoffs, as well as his relationship with Nanako.
I had really similliar experience. I started with P5R and it changed my life and after that played P4G and its BY FAR my favorite out of these games, and one of my all time favorites
Persona 4 always nailed the little town feeling for me. While Persona 2,3 and 5 felt like the main cast were pursuing a big case all the time with little comic reliefs here and there. Persona 4 feels like a big comic relief with bit of murder here and there. I can't explain why, but it always felt like the main cast is having a blast throughout the whole game, which is only enhanced by the great anime adaptation (especially the English dub). Also, like you mentioned the Social links, for me, are the best of the series by far, they just feel real and are delivered amazing. Especially Naoki, Marie and Yukiko are my personal fav. I think the best way to describe Persona 4 for me is that it's an incredible journey pressed into code for me to play and just have a good time, something no other game achieved until now.
i started with 5 and left it for a few years just to come back to 4 a few months back and finish it in a month and attempted to replay it whilst it's barely playable after the first time since the plot made the game feel worth playing instead of the crawling of the badly made dungeons
Nice video man! Persona 4 is awsome, and it bring such a nice "small town anime" kind of vibe. Its awsome, and i dont mind the interactions between each other. Your spot on about the vibe. Keep up the awsome and amazing work my brother! God bless!
Appreciate the support homie! I wish you well!
You should make a video on Your Ideas for a P4 remake
@@TheHoneredOne8 I’ll certainly consider it!
I do like this soundtrack better than p5s. It's just so youthful and the amount of layers in the music rly shines. There's so much going on, like in Your Affection, which has a ton of instruments layered in. The battle songs are rly great and the riffs are so catchy. Hirata's voice is one of the few cases where it sounds the same in the studio and live.
P5s soundtrack sounded more mature with the acid jazz, Lyn is a great singer, and "New Beginning" was so good, but p4s captured the youthful spirit of a game with high schoolers better.
my 1st persona game was p4g back on my vita, and even tho it’s not my fave in the series anymore, I still absolutely treasure the game with all my heart. I played it at the perfect time in my life, where I was living in a small town and joined a new school. it was like fate lol. but yeah, tho persona 3 will forever be my fave game, I still acknowledge, appreciate, and love persona 4 for everything it did for me, and others too :)
great video! 👏
Persona 4 is absolutely my favorite game in the series, and one of my favorite games of all time for many of the same reasons you listed here! It's just got such a cozy vibe, and I could play this game over and over and never get tired of it! The characters and this setting both hold such a special place in my heart. (And of course, the phenomenal soundtrack.)
There will always be a reason why “that” scene hits me harder than any other Persona moment. Even with Persona 3’s more “iconic” moments.
That scene hurts on a spiritual level.
P4 is my fav persona too, and my fav thing is "Never More" in the true ending of p4g
As someone who beat the game for the first time a few days ago,I can definitely appreciate P4G being a great change of pace from P3FES with a more quiet down to earth atmosphere,friendlier group of party members and more upbeat tone compared to P3’s moodiness.I also think the TV Theming[esp the UI]and TV World are very fascinating and unique.However the simplified combat(they combined all phys types which doesnt sit well with me),removal of weapon fusion,less varied party members and simplified dungeons(for the most part)prevent me from liking it more than P3FES unfortunately.I still love the game tho,Id just rather play P3FES.🤷🏽♂️
I can agree with that, I played Persona 3 Reload and while I liked the story, the characters, the flow of the story, it always has that depressive tone. I instantly bought Persona 4 Golden to play the next game and wow, what a difference. I just love the story and the characters and how they're written and me as a writer, love to see that.
Even after playing 3 & 5 I still think 4 was the best persona. Maybe it’s my nostalgia being the first one I played but it just has such cosy vibes and helped me get through a lonely period of high school.
I'm a Persona 3 stan but I respect the hell out of Persona 4. P3 was, in all honesty, a game with rough edges and divisive elements aplenty. P4 managed to be more polished and accesible while still feeling unique.
I like to think of Persona 4 as the Dark Souls to Persona 3's Demon's Souls, if that makes sense.
100% agree with your points. I fucking love Persona 4, and I really don't think I'd be who I am today without that game. The theme of pursuing your true self is just way too relatable.
played 3R, 4G, and 5R for the first time this year and 4G is easily my favorite one
Best music, best team, best MC, best anime, best villain
I’m really glad that P4G was my entry point into this great franchise in early 2023 after 3, 4 and 5 came to Xbox. By far my favourite game in the franchise and ranks among my favourite games I’ve ever played. It’s the only one of the three where I have double digit playthroughs (for context: 10 for P4G, 6 for P3P and 4 for P5R) and I’m still tempted to go back to experience this game again just to hang out in Inaba or watch through the anime adaptation again for the glorious memes and absolute gut punches.
Hard to believe it all started from watching the P4 dancing intro and Rizzo’s P3 analysis video.
While I would say that Persona 5 is my favourite in terms of Story, Characters, gameplay and vibes. Persona 4 is truly something special and I in my opinion that both P3, P4 and P5 are truly amazing games that are made with love and imagination from a dev team with passion and not made from a focus test group made for money. Each game has its own story to tell with its own message to say. All 3 games have changed the lives of a lot of people and if a game can do that, you know it is a keeper.
Thank you Altus for the amazing adventures and the memories we share.
The Investigation team is such a solid group who is all strong individually... They sacrificed their life for YU... I lovehow personal each social link P4G is... They told lengthy and meaningful stories...P3R social links was too short, P5R confidant is too Machiavellian... The Vibe is what sets P4G apart from all and the lovable characters
P4's dungeon gameplay became wayyyy too overhated after reload came out, ive heard ppl genuinely say they dropped the game because of it which is insane to me! Especially when it plays almost exactly the same as p5r and p3r, just without the baton pass. And while it is a fun addition i really don't think it's such a fundamental core of persona's combat to the point of dropping the game over.
To me, P4 is my least favorite of the modern persona trilogy, but i do agree to the fact that recently it’s getting some undeserved hate.
P5 is amazing and P3 just got a remake, so of course P4 feels overshadowed.
Yes like i said, it’s also my least favorite but i still enjoyed it a lot and comparing it to P5R and P3R is just not fair.
Just give it some time, i’m sure that when P4 replay, P4 rewind or whatever they are going to call the remake comes out, P4 will finally be loved like never before once again!
Got this in my fyp after buy arena ultimate and my 50th playthrough getting 100% 😅
Yes its the best persona game
Idk about music tho. Persona 5 did have an amazing soundtrack
Bro that social link mod u got is so unfair lmfao I have had up to like 12 tabs open for social link guides at a time and I’m just going back and forth through them all. Especially now for my replay cause I’m trying to get the max all the social links achievement
After doing so many playthroughs of Golden I had to throw myself a bone with that mod haha
I think I have an idea as to why Persona 4 gets flack some of the time (especially as of recent years), and it's a combination of its overt praise (justified or not) leading to be seen as overhyped, large misunderstandings and misinformation about the story content of the game (usually in wildly different directions), and the fact that it is an anime-style RPG with all of the common tropes some people actively despise (such as scenes of fanservice).
This tends to happen quite often with hugely popular story driven games (especially when the subject matter tackles quite nuanced topics), even more so when said game is firmly set in a presentation style often viewed with disdain from other visual styles in the medium. That, and there are people that always view the popular option as "overrated" or "overhyped", regardless of the quality of content.
Persona 4 Golden is really good in terms of making you feel nostalgic. Even if I didn't even live in a small town for a while, it still delivers the "golden days" feel so well. One of my favorite games for sure.
@@jamesfromfallout Okay so I’m not just crazy that’s good to know haha. Shoutout Fallout 3 that game is fire
I feel just as you do.
P5 is a better game, but P4 is the unique one for sure... No other game makes me almost sad with nostalgia. That intro song gives me highschool flashbacks every time, wishing I made more of my life lol what the heck.
My 3rd favorite overall game, only beaten by Oneshot and Terraria.
Thank you for speaking the truth!!
@@Jayegato I got you homie 🙏🏻
I enjoyed it. However, certain line deliveries and moments in the game annoy me irrationally. They are small moments but they pile up for me greatly.
Don't get me wrong. I think Persona 4 Golden, aside the earpiercing harmonica and weirdly overly happy even for the setting and story opening, is great and is worth experiencing along with its predecessor and successor. I personally find the story and characters from Persona 3 Reload and Persona 5 to be more appealing and relatable for me. I specified Persona 3 Reload because, at least for the English version for the PS2 game, I could never take anything seriously due to the weird vocal directions for many of the characters, especially Fuuka who I headcannoned as being a future serial killer due to how she sounds.
That thing about the Golden opening and the harmonica has solidified my hatred for harmonicas as musical instruments. Yes, the first thing I want to hear whenever I boot up a game that I like is the screeching sound of a harmonica.
P4G is my favorite, I don't know, maybe because it was my first persona game, but even if that's the case is still a masterpiece
Dawg I just finished persona 4 golden today 😂
Ayye I hope you enjoyed it
Peaksona 4 fr 😭
the most based video ive watched today
Nah persona 3 is what I feel like captures what persona is about because Makoto goes from being someone who doesn’t care at all to someone who cares about everybody through the trails he faces and you can actively see it through SL as well and in 3 SEES wasn’t actually a friend group which is very realistic because they were drawn together because of their similarities and in real life your not going to become best friends with a group of abt 7 people but you’ll most likely have a great connection to them and the answer builds on this greatly
The people slandering persona 4 probably didn't play it or tried to understand it
It has its flaws obviously but people lately treats it very poorly
I wouldn't entirely say that, but I do think people exaggerate the flaws of it a lot. Like I said even I think there are really bad parts about the main story, but overall I think it's an amazing experience
I prefer Persona 3 Reload. The characters are so human, tragic but funny at the same time, the soundtrack is absolutely peak with Mass Destruction, Moon's Reaching Stars, Color Your Night, Memories of You and so much more. I love all the main cast and is my favorite Persona group and the most important thing of why I love P3 is the super powerful and beautiful message about enjoying your life to the very end and even if you don't know it, all of us have a reason to be alive and see the meaning of life in different ways, it's one of the most human messages I ever saw in a videogame. That's why I think P3 is by far the best Persona game.🌸🌸🌸✊✊✊
I prefer P5, but 4 is still a 10.
As someone who ranks p4 as the 4th game in the series, imo this games has too many flaws to stand with the others like p2is, p3r and p5r. For starters yes the vibes are immaculate, simple as that.
The story tho? Ngl i don't like it at all, p4 is advertised as a murder mystery game, but everything relevant to the investigation literally starts after Naoto joins, 50 into the game, and she has all the info and more even tho she didn't participate in the IT investigation, that's honestly so funny to me, before that the game's structure like p5 is very episodical, but it's imo very boring since we repeat the same sequence of events only to have a new party member, but clues on the actual mystery, the game even wastes an entire arc on someone who clearly is not the killer, other problems i have with the story is that the killer is easy as hell to figure out, and if you count that out if the way you get a game that's 60% made of slice of life scenes that while funny do not add anything relevant to the overarching plot. The killer reveal is great even if obvious but the sequence of poorly foreshadowed god, the Marie part, which i actively dislike as well as her character in general, since i find her the definition of shoved in, and the finale with another poorly foreshadowed god, didn't make me enjoy my time with p4.
The cast is funny i agree, but i find them to be the weakest developed cast in the series, with p1, that's because they do not develop, they face their shadows but a single conversation is not enough to develop a character for a 80 hour game, characters like yosuke, naoto and kanji are what should have been the standard for the party, but unfortunately it isn't, we have a potentially great dynamic between chie and Yukiko that goes nowhere because we never see them talk things out, we have Rise who has a nice introductory arc only to be relegated to the uwu senpai cliché, and Teddie is kind of dumb, but honestly liked him. As you can see i don't like half of the main party therefore seeing them doing nothing for a great part of the story wasn't as enjoyable to me.
Music is great, my favorite is p5's but p4's is great, even tho i don't really like the singer some vocal songs are objectively peak
Gameplay wise, i mean p4 is now the oldest of the modern games, but the gameplay is solid enough that honestly it doesn't need a remake at all, it's still pretty enjoyable.
Social links are good although many a bit forgettable, but i honestly love all the sl/confidants at the same level so yeah
Overall p4 is imo a great concept, with a strong theme that didn't resonate with me as much as p3's and p5's, however it also has so many things it does wrong not even as a story but as a game that i cannot rank it on the same level of either the p2 duology, persona 3 reload and persona 5 royal, since thise games basically changed my life. Even tho i seem to dislike p4 i actually love it for what it is, hell i even got the platinum 2 times lmao, it's still one of my favorite games ever but the other set a bar so high that p4 didn't manage to reach it, even tho it came very close
Sorry, but I actually think that P4 is the weakest from the latest three persona mainline games. The dungeons and battles are sooooo boring and the story picks up only in November - which is basically endgame. It cannot match the depth of 3 and the playability of 5.
Probably the biggest P4 hater here to say:
No
I like it but my favorite is persona 3
I’ve played all the modern ones (reload, golden, royale) and am I the only one that thinks royale is the worst one of the 3?
For me it's Persona 3 Reload at last, they are all peak but with Persona 4 Golden being my favorite and Persona 5 getting me into the franchise in the first place, I just have some bias lol
I can’t really say any of them are the worst cause I like them all more or less equally. P4 is just a bit ahead for me
@@YandereGogeta I absolutely dread the dungeon/palace aspects of these games tbh. I kinda like it more now that I’m better at the game, but it’s still not super fun for me. The social sim is what I enjoy from these games, and I think persona 5 has the weakest social links. That and u have momentos on top of the tedious gimmicky palaces, and it just gets old real fast. Easily earns least favorite on my list. But rn im back and forth rn with reload and golden for my favorite
@@AkiraRambles peep my reply in the thread it wouldn’t let me @ u both lmfao but as far as reload tho for me has the some of coziest music and some of the best social links. I love walking around the city or school choosing what social link ima do while the music goes on. Also being in the dorm too
@@LilWeySoIcy oh for sure if we’re talking about osts, Reload would be above Royal for me. Although I like the social links in p5 a little more cause coffee dad, akechi, iwai, and maruki, and hifumi to name some. I’ll admit I love the little hangouts you can do with shinji and the male roommates alongside the other links.
Not me being the one dislike because I'm done with these fucking "Like and Subscribe".
@@Now_Roxas it is statistically proven that asking makes people want to do it. I’m sorry that it offended you *that* much but I will probably continue to do it