Neat to see. Having watched this process play out over the last 12 years on the Elwha in Washington It's amazing to see how far it's come. The Klamath will probably see a huge wave of silt go downstream the next couple of years, with a transformation and expansion of the river delta from the restoration of sediment flows.
Both the Elwha and White Salmon River dams had 5 river miles before going into Puget Sound or Columbia river. The Klamath has just under 200 miles of river from the last dam. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The dams on the Klamath river really need to go.
Here is my question: It appears the Klamath River dams are being drained, while leaving the structure in place. Was this done to prevent drastic changes in the course of the river? The Elwha dams were eradicated chunk by chunk and debris, along with legacy from the reservoirs, quickly and forcefully traveled down river. Dramatically altering the flow and course, the wild Elwha took out two campgrounds and the entrance road to a heavily used area of Olympic National Park. The surrounding area has recovered quickly, the evidence of the dams is fading fast!
@keyboarderror1 What if the dams remain intact? We lost two campgrounds and the only road into the vast Elwha valley, likely due to the complete removal of the structures. I’m just wondering if these dams were drained initially, with plans to deconstruct them in the future?
@@lkevincurry All the dams they've drained in California are supposed to be demolished by the end of the year. There are still dams in Oregon that will remain operational for flood control.
Thank you. These videos are part of a multi-year project documenting dam removal and the recovery of the river. It's a major human nature event where, as always, "nature bats last". The Klamath is deeply intriguing with lots of uncertainties to explore.
In high school, 1964, I and friends canoed down the Klamath from where it crossed hwy 99 to the coast, portaging around Ishi Pishi Falls. It was a wonderful experience, clean water, no traffic noise, very few people. I was there in 1964-5 when the bridge at Klamath Falls washed out during the 1000 year flood. Great to see the river being restored to natural flow.
I remember that flood we had a houseboat out by pelican bay that got loose at the time of the flood and flowed down against the bridge, the city of Klamath was not happy.
I agree. At least KRRC has contracted with Swiftwater Films to produce a time lapse record for each dam removal. They have good cameras and the best access. They have released one on Copco No. 2 but we’ll have to waite for the other three. Grad students, landowners, and others are time lapsing too. I hope that RES, the restoration contractor, is doing a multi-year time lapse.
Thank you Daniel. I'd be stoked too. Once I have enough subscribers I will fly live and that will help with frequency. A lot of research goes into these short vignettes - they are small parts to a ten year project. There is more to come but for now it's slow and steady at 2-3 times a month.
I have no doubt there is more work that goes into these videos than I could imagine. My comment was more along the line of I could watch a new video of this spot every day. Appreciate all the awesome videos you've made
I think they are going to have to reopen the original bypass tunnel. I think so because when they were starting to build the dam, they hit a gravel pocket that went down approx. 100 feet. Before they could continue, they had to fill it with concrete. At the bottom of the hole, they found a bison skull and it ended up in the museum of natural history in San Francisco. I worked on all the PP&L Dams on the Klamath river for 22 years. I lived above the C-1 dam and I am sad to see the end of an era.
My understanding is that the original low level release tunnel was never operated as a release tunnel. It only served the purpose of diverting water around the dam during building. Its mechanism to open and close the gate was actually non-functional since the beginning. Local lore relays that the tunnel gates failed during a test and the reservoir began filling a year earlier than expected. For the removal process, the original tunnel has been prepared for blasting open. This will be the final phase of Copco drawdown.
I arrived at c-1 dam on 4/18/77 and worked there until 4/18/99.and as far as I know your understanding is correct. I cannot speak to the original tunnel being prepared for blasting open, that is a guess on my part, based on your photos. We moved the original logbooks out of the c-1 basement sometimes in the1990's to the original cook/bunkhouse at c/2 camp to keep them safe. Now there's a good source for history if anyone has access and the time. Another source is rail road's up the Klamath.@@meridianphoto
the bypass tunnel intake is not visible in this video correct? its probably still under water river left? i was told originally the drawdown plan had hardhat divers going in and opening it back up.@@meridianphoto
@@gisdp99 I believe you are correct. To the left of the original coffer dam is a concrete embankment, I assume below that is the original diversion entrance. In this video, the mechanical lift system and its cables have been removed. Also, the tunnel has been prepped for the release of the last 30 ft of pool. I think this is the location of the much debated thirty foot waterfall which we will see once the original tunnel is reopened. I believe it will be blasted open without divers. I suspect it would be from the downriver side as they did with the new tunnel. KRRC is not providing details on this (that I'm aware of) but folks around Copco will likely know as soon as anyone.
Would love to see more of this type of footage and the aftermath of the when water has been released and what was in and around the dams very cool video
I remember a story told to me in 75 out at Copco by a very old man who lived at copco. He said a barge of Chinese works flipped over at Ward canyon during the build of Copco.
Thank you. It's a fantastic place to fly. One has to be super mindful of electric wires and the consequences of a misstep but a visual observer along with being close enough for line of sight helps keep it safe (and legal). A telephoto lens on a day without wind also helps.
true. its also true that now there is going to be a lot less of it hanging around in this region, so less life here. i cant help but feel bad for the generations of wildlife and the ecosystem that developed around the lakes. some people view these animals in the same vile way as they do the dam builders, operators and supporters. the animals didn't know any different.
Once all the dams have been removed we will be able to shove off @ Klamath lake & boat all the way to the Pacific. Probably something you will want to do in September when the water is low & the rapids are @ their slowest. Fishing & picture taking. Putting into the shore to make camp each night cooking the fish you caught over your campfire. !
There are still 2 dams below the mouth of Klamath Lake. A irrigation diversion dam just below the mouth of Klamath Lake and Keno Dam just downstream from Keno. Once Boyle, Copco 1 and Irongate dam structures are removed and water quality improves, A put-in just below Keno and taking out at the I-5 rest area will make for a amazing multi-day whitewater adventure for advanced rafters (at higher water) and kayakers (l'm guessing even at low summer flows for kayaks). For less advanced boaters; putting in below Wards Canyon to I-5 might turn out be a great class 2-3 day trip!
you will be dragging your boat in september. you will be dragging your boat a good portion of the year. i float state line to the lake multiple times a year, in the am before they would release from jc boyle i was just making it in my aire spud tributary kayak. hells corner will be interesting mid summer. there are also several man made dykes between copco and state line that may be an issue when flows are low. rafting guides told me they will only be running in a small window in the spring, hells corner will be a no go in a big boat most of the year. i dont know the river well enough below iron gate to comment but i would imagine after the trinity the flows will be more consistent. wards canyon will also be unnavigable i would think. our property borders wards and between copco and iron gate it was pools of hot nasty water mid summer when water was being diverted into the power house. i think it'll be the same situation mid late summer. at least until the state and feds shut down all the farms in the upper basin, which will probably take decades decades if not a century. but by then new dams will probably be under construction!
Friends of mine have paddled Hells Corner in kayaks at 400 cfs. No dragging but lots of rock bashing. They didn't say it was fun but it was doable. I know there are some big rocky drops in the Boyle bypass section, only by trial will the low boatable flow on this section be ascertained. Another friend of mine paddled Wards Canyon during the flow study a few years back and he thought Wards will be a great class 4 run (albeit short) @ 600cfs, which if l remember correctly is the estimated low summertime flow.
@@nicksinderson3302 I'm surprised that the calculated low flow is 600 in wards, I assume they plan to maintain these minimums using Keno? Really good thing they took the trees out through wards. I think there is some good stuff still under water just upstream from the dam. I'm sure there is a bunch of sketchy ancient scaffolding and other construction debris as well!
In California Iron Gate Reservoir and COPO Lake still have dams on them. The Klamath still is blocked by them…there is no spawning going on untill they are gone…..please tell the entire story
Conditions have been improving - dissolved oxygen levels look good for fish. The sediment flush is significant but it’s certainly not a river of death killing native fish clear down to Requa. Hopefully someone in the know will comment.
I’dve rather lived in a warm pine forest in 6 rivers California, full of very rich chemicals from restored golds silver pt cu and some gemstone locations too. The point was the public would, I’m sure much rather do that, but it’s not getting coverage in the media. Precludes fires and death times so yeah you know, ✍🏼
Only Copco 2 has been removed. Removal of Copco No. 1 and the other two in the project will begin once the snow melts and the river peaks for the season. The plan is that removal will be completed before the salmon run this fall.
Yes it will. Nature is quick but not known for bowing to human timeframes. Hopefully aggressive reseeding and planting will help jump start the process. Seeds are already sprouting but it'll take years to really know what's going to happen. Like a prayer to the universe I hope for the best and plan on seeing it happen.
This particular video is but a small vignette of a much larger story that is most certainly not ignoring the consequences of sediment release. That is a complicated topic that only fools rush into without doing their research. There are others covering that topic and when ready so will I. Thanks for commenting.
One of the many reasons contributing to the decision to remove the dams and allow the river to run free again was that of salmon breeding grounds. Salmon require silt to lay their eggs in and one of the many negative effects the dams had on the river was blocking the natural flow of silt downstream, so what were previously prime salmon nesting grounds became instead unsuitable gravel beds, which in turn caused a very pronounced fall-off in the native salmon populations. Yes, with the removal of the dams there will be an unusually high level of silt in the river for a few years, but that has been taken into account in planning the restoration efforts. A new river delta will begin to form where the river meets the sea, creating a new estuary and silt will be deposited along the length of the now free river to create viable salmon breeding grounds along the length of the freed river. Yes, it will take time, but you might be amazed at how quickly these natural system reassert themselves, and cleanse and repopulate themselves, once the human impediments are removed. Consider viewing the many YT videos regarding the removal of the Elwa dam in Washington State, the largest dam removal of all time, at that time, and how amazingly quickly the river valley and area behind the dam recovered once the dam was removed. Removing the dams are not the problem, leaving the dams in place is.
I’m not an economist but my guess is shortage of money and lack of agreement on fair market value. It’s a harsh place to live and the reservoirs have been controversial for decades. Maybe a restored river will help turn things around? We really need to give it time to see where the beliefs shake out. Fair mitigation of negative consequences is a real issue for those experiencing hardship. Time will tell how that works out but shortage of money will likely hinder satisfaction for all. That’s not right but it doesn’t negate the reasoning behind river renewal.
And what about those who lost substantial equity in the properties they owned 100 years ago when the dams were built? There are processes in place to compensate property owners for loss of value in their assets when major public works affect their property, primary among them eminent domain. Property losses are diminished thru eminent domain, but loss of jobs is rarely addressed. No one is guaranteed a job for life, if you get laid off due to whatever circumstances (and there are many), you either retrain into a new job, move to a place your skills are needed, or do nothing except sit at home and become bitter and angry because life moved on and you didn't. Humans are capable of learning new skills at all points in their lives, regardless of age, what's harder to do is break out of lifelong habits based on a certain job and the lifestyle that job entails.
So, yah feel pretty vindicated by tearing out all the dams on the Klamath River. Now what's going to happen when we have one of those rare 1964 like floods. When massive amounts of snow suddenly melt bringing cascading flooding along the lower Klamath destroying homes, businesses, Hwy 101 and yes, lives. You see that is one of those things that dams do to protect us. Think about that when you rejoice that a few native Americans can celebrate catching a wild salmon, while millions of others are without electricity or worse yet have lost everything from a horrible flood.
That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard first of all you need to do your research the dams that they took out produced very little electricity they were falling apart it would have cost the company that owns the dams more money to fix them then it would just to tear them out the dams that they're taking out were not for flood control they were for electricity there's still two damn still left on the Klamath river that are for flood control in a few Indians can catch fish salmon are a keystone species the bears the migratory birds live off of the salmon they eat the salmon fry nature add mother nature and a healthy salmon and fish population than have a bunch of rich white people have lakefront property
People really think that they are going Float the Klamath River this year. Or catch a Fish. Good Luck. You won't be able to Fish the Klamath River for decades 😢
Do yourself a favor and look up the removal of the Elwa River Dam in Washington State a few years ago. Fish population rebounded within 2 years, it doesn't take nature long to restore the natural balance that humans stole from it.
Pacificorp aka "these people" opted to remove their century old, obsolete dams as part of their long planned end of life cycles. COPCO #1, like all dams, was built with a finite lifespan. Eventually it was no longer producing enough power just justify operating and maintenance costs and options must be weighed. I get it, that the process is ugly and unpredictable; kind of like tearing out the shag carpet out from your grandpa's house and restoring the hardwood floors underneath.
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Neat to see. Having watched this process play out over the last 12 years on the Elwha in Washington It's amazing to see how far it's come. The Klamath will probably see a huge wave of silt go downstream the next couple of years, with a transformation and expansion of the river delta from the restoration of sediment flows.
Both the Elwha and White Salmon River dams had 5 river miles before going into Puget Sound or Columbia river. The Klamath has just under 200 miles of river from the last dam. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The dams on the Klamath river really need to go.
I'm Ok with the idea of removal of the Dams
But unless we have a
Major Flood that toxic Sediment will continue to poison the Klamath River.
Here is my question: It appears the Klamath River dams are being drained, while leaving the structure in place.
Was this done to prevent drastic changes in the course of the river?
The Elwha dams were eradicated chunk by chunk and debris, along with legacy from the reservoirs, quickly and forcefully traveled down river.
Dramatically altering the flow and course, the wild Elwha took out two campgrounds and the entrance road to a heavily used area of Olympic National Park.
The surrounding area has recovered quickly, the evidence of the dams is fading fast!
@keyboarderror1
What if the dams remain intact?
We lost two campgrounds and the only road into the vast Elwha valley, likely due to the complete removal of the structures. I’m just wondering if these dams were drained initially, with plans to deconstruct them in the future?
@@lkevincurry All the dams they've drained in California are supposed to be demolished by the end of the year. There are still dams in Oregon that will remain operational for flood control.
Excellent photo documentation! I hope you keep up the amazing job you're doing. Thanks!
Thank you. These videos are part of a multi-year project documenting dam removal and the recovery of the river. It's a major human nature event where, as always, "nature bats last". The Klamath is deeply intriguing with lots of uncertainties to explore.
Great videos. I’m looking forward to seeing revegetation and restored ecosystems of the land freed from the water behind the dams.
Thanks for posting!
Flow, river flow. Bring back the clear water. Bring back the salmon.
Run free and wild my love all mighty nature will heal you beauty
In high school, 1964, I and friends canoed down the Klamath from where it crossed hwy 99 to the coast, portaging around Ishi Pishi Falls. It was a wonderful experience, clean water, no traffic noise, very few people. I was there in 1964-5 when the bridge at Klamath Falls washed out during the 1000 year flood. Great to see the river being restored to natural flow.
I remember that flood we had a houseboat out by pelican bay that got loose at the time of the flood and flowed down against the bridge, the city of Klamath was not happy.
Great video of the newly freed Klamath River. So much gray mud and rocks that it seemed like black and white video for a while.
It would be really cool to see a time lapse done over the next several years of the canyon restoring itself and the vegetation coming back.
I agree. At least KRRC has contracted with Swiftwater Films to produce a time lapse record for each dam removal. They have good cameras and the best access. They have released one on Copco No. 2 but we’ll have to waite for the other three. Grad students, landowners, and others are time lapsing too. I hope that RES, the restoration contractor, is doing a multi-year time lapse.
Love your videos. You could post one every day and I'd be stoked. Really appreciate it!
Thank you Daniel. I'd be stoked too. Once I have enough subscribers I will fly live and that will help with frequency.
A lot of research goes into these short vignettes - they are small parts to a ten year project. There is more to come but for now it's slow and steady at 2-3 times a month.
I have no doubt there is more work that goes into these videos than I could imagine. My comment was more along the line of I could watch a new video of this spot every day. Appreciate all the awesome videos you've made
@@meridianphotowatching the seasons unfold in these videos is going to be wonderful. Thanks for your work!
Excellent production. Enjoyed the experience.
I think they are going to have to reopen the original bypass tunnel. I think so because when they were starting to build the dam, they hit a gravel pocket that went down approx. 100 feet. Before they could continue, they had to fill it with concrete. At the bottom of the hole, they found a bison skull and it ended up in the museum of natural history in San Francisco. I worked on all the PP&L Dams on the Klamath river for 22 years. I lived above the C-1 dam and I am sad to see the end of an era.
My understanding is that the original low level release tunnel was never operated as a release tunnel. It only served the purpose of diverting water around the dam during building.
Its mechanism to open and close the gate was actually non-functional since the beginning. Local lore relays that the tunnel gates failed during a test and the reservoir began filling a year earlier than expected.
For the removal process, the original tunnel has been prepared for blasting open. This will be the final phase of Copco drawdown.
I arrived at c-1 dam on 4/18/77 and worked there until 4/18/99.and as far as I know your understanding is correct. I cannot speak to the original tunnel being prepared for blasting open, that is a guess on my part, based on your photos. We moved the original logbooks out of the c-1 basement sometimes in the1990's to the original cook/bunkhouse at c/2 camp to keep them safe. Now there's a good source for history if anyone has access and the time. Another source is rail road's up the Klamath.@@meridianphoto
the bypass tunnel intake is not visible in this video correct? its probably still under water river left? i was told originally the drawdown plan had hardhat divers going in and opening it back up.@@meridianphoto
@@gisdp99 I believe you are correct. To the left of the original coffer dam is a concrete embankment, I assume below that is the original diversion entrance. In this video, the mechanical lift system and its cables have been removed. Also, the tunnel has been prepped for the release of the last 30 ft of pool. I think this is the location of the much debated thirty foot waterfall which we will see once the original tunnel is reopened. I believe it will be blasted open without divers. I suspect it would be from the downriver side as they did with the new tunnel. KRRC is not providing details on this (that I'm aware of) but folks around Copco will likely know as soon as anyone.
Would love to see more of this type of footage and the aftermath of the when water has been released and what was in and around the dams very cool video
I remember a story told to me in 75 out at Copco by a very old man who lived at copco. He said a barge of Chinese works flipped over at Ward canyon during the build of Copco.
Great video! I thank you as tears roll from my welling eyes...❤❤❤❤❤❤
Fantastic! Great piloting and photography.
Thank you. It's a fantastic place to fly. One has to be super mindful of electric wires and the consequences of a misstep but a visual observer along with being close enough for line of sight helps keep it safe (and legal). A telephoto lens on a day without wind also helps.
Water is life 💙
true. its also true that now there is going to be a lot less of it hanging around in this region, so less life here. i cant help but feel bad for the generations of wildlife and the ecosystem that developed around the lakes. some people view these animals in the same vile way as they do the dam builders, operators and supporters. the animals didn't know any different.
Interesting to see trees and some structures still standing after all this time submerged.
Once all the dams have been removed we will be able to shove off @
Klamath lake & boat all the way to the Pacific. Probably something
you will want to do in September when the water is low & the rapids
are @ their slowest. Fishing & picture taking. Putting into the shore
to make camp each night cooking the fish you caught over your
campfire.
!
There may not be enough water in September to float a boat from Keno to the ocean but it would be very interesting to try.
There are still 2 dams below the mouth of Klamath Lake. A irrigation diversion dam just below the mouth of Klamath Lake and Keno Dam just downstream from Keno.
Once Boyle, Copco 1 and Irongate dam structures are removed and water quality improves, A put-in just below Keno and taking out at the I-5 rest area will make for a amazing multi-day whitewater adventure for advanced rafters (at higher water) and kayakers (l'm guessing even at low summer flows for kayaks). For less advanced boaters; putting in below Wards Canyon to I-5 might turn out be a great class 2-3 day trip!
you will be dragging your boat in september. you will be dragging your boat a good portion of the year. i float state line to the lake multiple times a year, in the am before they would release from jc boyle i was just making it in my aire spud tributary kayak. hells corner will be interesting mid summer. there are also several man made dykes between copco and state line that may be an issue when flows are low. rafting guides told me they will only be running in a small window in the spring, hells corner will be a no go in a big boat most of the year. i dont know the river well enough below iron gate to comment but i would imagine after the trinity the flows will be more consistent. wards canyon will also be unnavigable i would think. our property borders wards and between copco and iron gate it was pools of hot nasty water mid summer when water was being diverted into the power house. i think it'll be the same situation mid late summer. at least until the state and feds shut down all the farms in the upper basin, which will probably take decades decades if not a century. but by then new dams will probably be under construction!
Friends of mine have paddled Hells Corner in kayaks at 400 cfs. No dragging but lots of rock bashing. They didn't say it was fun but it was doable. I know there are some big rocky drops in the Boyle bypass section, only by trial will the low boatable flow on this section be ascertained. Another friend of mine paddled Wards Canyon during the flow study a few years back and he thought Wards will be a great class 4 run (albeit short) @ 600cfs, which if l remember correctly is the estimated low summertime flow.
@@nicksinderson3302 I'm surprised that the calculated low flow is 600 in wards, I assume they plan to maintain these minimums using Keno? Really good thing they took the trees out through wards. I think there is some good stuff still under water just upstream from the dam. I'm sure there is a bunch of sketchy ancient scaffolding and other construction debris as well!
It is not a lake, its a reservoir.
Agreed. It was a reservoir but people named it Copco Lake.
A reservoir is a man made lake. It is still a lake.
Restore the Hetch Hetchy Valley in Yosemite Park!
That would be awesome. problem is. Hetch Hetchy is the water supply for SF.
Patiently waiting on Matilija cyn dam to come down....
I bet this looks spectacular from space.
In California Iron Gate Reservoir and COPO Lake still have dams on them. The Klamath still is blocked by them…there is no spawning going on untill they are gone…..please tell the entire story
Wow.
Hell yes! Give us our rivers!
Cool!!
So what's happening at the mouth of the river??
Conditions have been improving - dissolved oxygen levels look good for fish. The sediment flush is significant but it’s certainly not a river of death killing native fish clear down to Requa. Hopefully someone in the know will comment.
What a mess !! .....You people who think this is a good thing are insane !!! ....
I’dve rather lived in a warm pine forest in 6 rivers California, full of very rich chemicals from restored golds silver pt cu and some gemstone locations too. The point was the public would, I’m sure much rather do that, but it’s not getting coverage in the media. Precludes fires and death times so yeah you know, ✍🏼
Has this dam been removed?
Only Copco 2 has been removed. Removal of Copco No. 1 and the other two
in the project will begin once the snow melts and the river peaks for the season. The plan is that removal will be completed before the salmon run this fall.
Thanks. Lots of sediment to get moved before trout and salmon will feel at home. Let's hope for lots of rain and snow.@@meridianphoto
@@meridianphoto which based on how efficient govt red tape is: they'll be actually up and running in just ten years.
Its gonna take a while for that scar to heal.
Yes it will. Nature is quick but not known for bowing to human timeframes. Hopefully aggressive reseeding and planting will help jump start the process. Seeds are already sprouting but it'll take years to really know what's going to happen. Like a prayer to the universe I hope for the best and plan on seeing it happen.
One damn dam at a time.
Sentiment kills all spawning grounds for MANY YEARS
Sedimment, and thats not true
I just saw the same thing in the toilet a minute ago! 😆
The issue of silt is conveniently ignored in most of these stories.
This particular video is but a small vignette of a much larger story that is most certainly not ignoring the consequences of sediment release. That is a complicated topic that only fools rush into without doing their research. There are others covering that topic and when ready so will I. Thanks for commenting.
One of the many reasons contributing to the decision to remove the dams and allow the river to run free again was that of salmon breeding grounds. Salmon require silt to lay their eggs in and one of the many negative effects the dams had on the river was blocking the natural flow of silt downstream, so what were previously prime salmon nesting grounds became instead unsuitable gravel beds, which in turn caused a very pronounced fall-off in the native salmon populations. Yes, with the removal of the dams there will be an unusually high level of silt in the river for a few years, but that has been taken into account in planning the restoration efforts. A new river delta will begin to form where the river meets the sea, creating a new estuary and silt will be deposited along the length of the now free river to create viable salmon breeding grounds along the length of the freed river. Yes, it will take time, but you might be amazed at how quickly these natural system reassert themselves, and cleanse and repopulate themselves, once the human impediments are removed. Consider viewing the many YT videos regarding the removal of the Elwa dam in Washington State, the largest dam removal of all time, at that time, and how amazingly quickly the river valley and area behind the dam recovered once the dam was removed. Removing the dams are not the problem, leaving the dams in place is.
Wini waconi
Dams, the ugliest and most destructive structures ever built by humans.
I would say atomic bombs are the most destructive.
@@GH-oi2jf Agreed
This is great; but why didn't they compensate the hundreds of people who lost their property vale and jobs because of it?
I’m not an economist but my guess is shortage of money and lack of agreement on fair market value. It’s a harsh place to live and the reservoirs have been controversial for decades. Maybe a restored river will help turn things around? We really need to give it time to see where the beliefs shake out.
Fair mitigation of negative consequences is a real issue for those experiencing hardship. Time will tell how that works out but shortage of money will likely hinder satisfaction for all. That’s not right but it doesn’t negate the reasoning behind river renewal.
And what about those who lost substantial equity in the properties they owned 100 years ago when the dams were built? There are processes in place to compensate property owners for loss of value in their assets when major public works affect their property, primary among them eminent domain. Property losses are diminished thru eminent domain, but loss of jobs is rarely addressed. No one is guaranteed a job for life, if you get laid off due to whatever circumstances (and there are many), you either retrain into a new job, move to a place your skills are needed, or do nothing except sit at home and become bitter and angry because life moved on and you didn't. Humans are capable of learning new skills at all points in their lives, regardless of age, what's harder to do is break out of lifelong habits based on a certain job and the lifestyle that job entails.
So, yah feel pretty vindicated by tearing out all the dams on the Klamath River. Now what's going to happen when we have one of those rare 1964 like floods. When massive amounts of snow suddenly melt bringing cascading flooding along the lower Klamath destroying homes, businesses, Hwy 101 and yes, lives. You see that is one of those things that dams do to protect us. Think about that when you rejoice that a few native Americans can celebrate catching a wild salmon, while millions of others are without electricity or worse yet have lost everything from a horrible flood.
That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard first of all you need to do your research the dams that they took out produced very little electricity they were falling apart it would have cost the company that owns the dams more money to fix them then it would just to tear them out the dams that they're taking out were not for flood control they were for electricity there's still two damn still left on the Klamath river that are for flood control in a few Indians can catch fish salmon are a keystone species the bears the migratory birds live off of the salmon they eat the salmon fry nature add mother nature and a healthy salmon and fish population than have a bunch of rich white people have lakefront property
People really think that they are going
Float the Klamath River this year.
Or catch a Fish.
Good Luck. You won't be able to Fish the Klamath River for decades 😢
Well if the rando makes the dumb comment on social media, it must be real😥
Nonsense!
Do yourself a favor and look up the removal of the Elwa River Dam in Washington State a few years ago. Fish population rebounded within 2 years, it doesn't take nature long to restore the natural balance that humans stole from it.
So sad to see these people destroy these much needed dams. Almost makes you cry. Sad day for the river.
Pacificorp aka "these people" opted to remove their century old, obsolete dams as part of their long planned end of life cycles. COPCO #1, like all dams, was built with a finite lifespan. Eventually it was no longer producing enough power just justify operating and maintenance costs and options must be weighed.
I get it, that the process is ugly and unpredictable; kind of like tearing out the shag carpet out from your grandpa's house and restoring the hardwood floors underneath.
maybe a sad day for the reservoir, it's a great day for the river.
So sad to see gullible rubes parroting hydropower lobbyist talking points. Almost makes you laugh.
Yeah. Makes you wanna cry with joy to see the river finally being restored.
only people that are crying are the people that own property around the lakes