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The Permaculture City, an interview with Toby Hemenway
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
- My guest for this interview is Toby Hemenway, author of the best selling permaculture book, Gaia's Garden.
To discuss the release of his latest book, The Permaculture City, we sit down and talk about the practice of urban permaculture, the role of permaculture as a decision making tool, and the importance of engaging what, for so long, have been called the "invisible structures" of economics and community.
Missing Toby so much.. 💔 He had such a subtle yet sophisticated way with these things. What a gift he was to us.
Agree with his focus on community food security not just individual (which is by its nature less secure)
reading this book right now and as an instructional designer I'm so excited by the potential for exploding the notions of design altogether. Permalearning is a perfect fit with constructivist learning theory that I have always subscribed to. Just gobbling it up. thanks for the interview.
Toby nailed it yet again. A full understanding of permaculture principles involves three interrelated aspects: growing gardens, growing community, and growing awareness.
A really great interview, Scott. Thank you for publishing.
Great interview! I'm looking forward to Toby coming to Bellingham Sept. 14th. He's also going to be in Portland on 9/12, Olympia on 9/13, and Seattle on 9/15.
Toby is an excellent pioneer, and his latest book will be a powerful contribution.
My 1982 book "Los Angeles: A History of the Future" offered the first systematic template for the rebuilding of a metropolis according to permaculture principles. www.paulglover.org/lahofbook.html
How about a Permaculture Planet🌎😇❤️
I think The Permaculture City is an excellent addition to the library, however, I think Toby is wrong about his basic thesis about urbanity and food. Urban residents have historically been supported by rural farmers producing excess food for those who couldn't grow it within densely populated areas. The historical ratio for this relationship is 9 rural farmers for every 1 urban dweller. This is because it IS difficult to grow food, and it takes a lot of effort to grow not only all your own food, but excess for market. Once we lose fossil subsidy on food production (10 calories of fossil energy for every 1 calorie of food energy) we will revert to historical norms and the urbanization trend will reverse.
Again, this is not to say that we shouldn't have urban permaculture, nor that this book is not incredibly useful, but the basic problem remains: how to produce staple calorie production sustainable with human labor. IMO, its going to me re-inhabiting our rural areas by the billions.
You are thinking about things with current urban design in place. There are huge areas of growing space available within the urban enviroment when you simplify the way you miight live in the future, inlcluding living underground, rooftop design, areas currently taken up by roads and concrete that could be better used for food production. Living as densely as we do now wont work long term. The idea of urban permaculture is sewing a seed of thought to start the cogs of change turning. Not a solution as such.
Unfortunately Toby, there was no internet or other mass marketing tool available in 1976.