Well I mean if you ever play any RPG that's pretty much what healers do they heal they buff and debuff and they are the most feared and annoying thing on any team like if you ever sees anyone playing RPG or if you play one yourself you'll notice that the second you see in enemy that can heal or if you see your healer in danger you're going to do whatever you can either to get rid of them first before they can do anything or literally give your life and soul for them cuz they are the lifeblood of your team and also since I'm on my rent tanks are not really tanks they are walls which have completely different functions walls are slightly similar to tanks where they are slow and they have really high health and defense but that's about it walls are just there to draw attention to themselves and debuff the enemy they do not hit hard they are just there to just draw attention and look pretty while doing it while tanks go up to enemies face and smack them into the stratosphere it just takes them a bit before they could start going around smacking things again but when they're ready you better run or you will die I apologize for this paragraph of a comment I had to get this off my chest
I'm very hopeful for the inevitable dungeons update. It seems like they're trying to make skyblock more RPG-like, especially after seeing the content from the nether update, so I think there's a lot of potential for making dungeons extremely fun
A more rpg skyblock would ruin the game imo, skyblock is what it is for a reason and i feel like thats why its so popular. If you made it more of an rpg what is the point of not just logging into wynncraft instead?
I just want them to add more abilities to the game, and some sort of ability from skill progression would be pretty cool. An example is if you get alchemy up to a certain level, you can learn how to brew elixirs that are just as good as god pots, but are more focused on one thing, like combat, mining, or skill grinding.
I feel like the issue with healers is that it's easy to make it weak or overpowered and super hard to balance. If you remember lifesteal before the overhaul, yeah it's either that or this crap we have now. And how should the healing be done? In a slower team mmo healers need to decide who to heal and when, but skyblock it's just brrrr and form a tether with the tank. Again here, introducing a new way of healing here could either be just pressing 1 button and team healing infinity health every second for 69s or timing wish correctly with scoreboard health updating once a second when people are getting hit 10 times a second. Admins went with the careful option which leaves healers weak. Werewolf armor is the only good, working healer concept they made for a fast paced game. Holy dragon armor won't cut it, the natural regen isn't enough. We need something before and after werewolf, and better healing helmets too
Some more healing items would also be nice, I would love to have so many that I have to choose which ones to use. The zombie swords, power orbs, and few other slight support/buffing items feels pretty bad when dealing with higher floors.
@@S0l1tud3 yeah, you can choose many but not everything fits into the hotbar, and the healing items which are good like power orbs are kinda passive. Also the comment is old and werewolf healing, although already niche, was nerfed to the ground, but dungeon healer helmets were changed for the mending stat, which scales with dungeon level and is very powerful at higher levels, worth over reaper mask which only doubles your likely base 100 mending
yea, in and out of dungeons, cuz for dungeons its just people with archer setup and terms, and berserker is the only class out of dungeons, wanna do enderman, it don't take range or magic damage, I don't think blaze dose either.
Although this might be a stretch, the healer could get a new ability to get a fraction of the perks (ex. the archer’s increased bow damage/ decreased melee damage) so that it buffs the class to be usable in lower level catacombs without making it too broken. If the admins wanted to, the ability can scale based on the level of their other classes, so it gives them the incentive to play other classes.
I think healer should be changed to just support (obviously a better name) like healing buffing damage and ability's. its sad cuz one of my co-op members is a healer and he cant do much
I would love to see some gear similar to werewolf in dungeons for tanks. Make some gear that is tanky and encourages multi hitting and then combine it with some hp scaling weapons. Basically something to replace pooch and mastiff with a bit of combat stuff added in. Some basic stuff so that tanks can at least do okay at clearing weak mobs in the dungeon. Tanks shouldn't replace dps classes or whatever, but should at least be able to do something.
I like how healer is just another class with a mender helmet (of one of the three levels) because it means that I can swap between classes to go to another class if there is dupe healer/beserker/archer
More weapon options for each stage of the game would be great, especially once the changes to starred items roll out whenever that's happening, classes already have pretty wonky progression gear wise and taking away what little options there already are for each stage of the game will make things even worse, and if the admins don't address it dungeons will be pretty bad imo. We can only hope the admins are aware of this and intend to introduce new weapons and gear to each floor
The Hog Rider card is unlocked from the Spell Valley (Arena 5). He is a very fast building-targeting, melee troop with moderately high hitpoints and damage. He appears just like his Clash of Clans counterpart; a man with brown eyebrows, a beard, a mohawk, and a golden body piercing in his left ear who is riding a hog. A Hog Rider card costs 4 Elixir to deploy. Strategy:- His fast move speed can boost forward mini tanks like an Ice Golem in a push. At the same time, he can also function as a tank for lower hitpoint troops such as Goblins as he still has a fair amount of health. Most cheap swarms complement the Hog Rider well, as they are nearly as fast as him and usually force more than one card out of the opponent's hand. The Hog Rider struggles with swarms, as they can damage him down and defeat him quickly while obstructing his path. Barbarians in particular can fully counter him without very strict timing on the defender's part, though be wary of spells. A Hunter can kill the Hog Rider in 2 hits if placed right on top of it. However, if you place something in front of the Hog Rider, the Hunter's splash will damage the Hog Rider and hit the card in front of it more. The Hog Rider in conjunction with the Freeze can surprise the opponent and allow the Hog Rider to deal much more damage than anticipated, especially if the opponent's go-to counter is a swarm, or swarms are their only effective counter to him. Skeletons and Bats will immediately be defeated by the spell, while Spear Goblins, Goblins, and Minions will be at low enough health to be defeated by a follow up Zap or Giant Snowball. However, this strategy isn't very effective against buildings as the Hog Rider will take a while to destroy the building, giving the opponent ample time to articulate another counter
When me and my friends started an iron Man co-op I played Arch and used a machine gun bow with the bow ability and the class ability double rapid fire was fun to use especially against many bosses but I agree that without a short bow clear is just not as good as mage
FOT clearing was actually the old M5 meta, and it'll be viable if swapping with the ability still works. AOTS is only good because it multiplies the swapped weapons dmg, so technically no terminator clearing will still be 'decent' . Nowhere near term, but still fast.
they fixed the archer problem kind of they added dragon shortbow which is easily obtainable in the end and it isnt half bad for the stage of the game its used for. They did make it harder to get juju bow tho
I’d just like to say this is a video I was hoping would get made for awhile because dungeons do feel stale. recently I’ve changed my setup to healer but it’s kinda hard since your only option realistically is a tank with mender crown or werewolf which I keep throwing money at but it hasn’t worked because it’s werewolf and it’s incredibly underwhelming in dungeons due to lack of useful stats u need to constantly find a way to buff and I know there’s mage but there should be more to a class than picking gear from one class and choosing healer if you read this great, if not I know it’s long keep in mind it’s just my opinion pls no hate.
Mage does have some use in m7, an actually maxed Mage (gdrag chim5 claymore with 10 star everything max everything etc) can blood camp m7, and can aggro in boss, and does a near respectable amount to drags, or you can play fake Mage, which is using a term with a side order or sadness.
just a little bit of a healer gear guide because powliner doesn't want to basicly what you want to do copy is another class gear then slap it with a mender crown (or mender fedora if you are broke)
Power creep always will exist and make late/end game players much more OP. I think term is the only solution for low cata players looking to do master mode (cata 34 - 40 doing m3 - m5), because by the time they update dungeons, the people now at cata 24 - 34 will be at 34 - 40 when dungeons update hits, and without an op weapon they will struggle, but the people now at cata like 34 - 40, will be at cata 42 - 48. And they can just buy the new weapon. So the only way to balance term is to keep it in the game permanently, else the people who use it now will gain cata xp so much faster than people who don't have it. I just got a term in mid/late February, I was cata 36, now in 1.5 months I'm already almost cata 43, by the time dungeons update comes I'll probably be cata 46 - 48 won't even need a term and can just buy the next OP item. Powercreep will always happen
The need to add more aoe weapons for most classes archer is fine with juju and term juju is a bit slower mage is still king in non master mode tanks should be able to do more damage in tank gear so maybe make an item that scales with ur defense as damage like warden helm but for tanks and healers should be a buffer giving everyone like x amount of int/str/def/cd for whatever class ur playing while still having wish maybe buff wish to make it so everyone deal 1.25x their damage for 10 seconds
Admins never tested the new weapon before it comes out. When they find out the new weapon is broken, they just keep nerfing the stats of it. Or just completely kills it (bone thingy☠️)(rip☠️☠️) This is the main reason why only a few weapons in skyblock are worth using
Generally I think they do test stuff but sometimes it really feels like they just put some random stats on it and let the community decide how good it is, yeah.
while i do agree that archer is t really viable unless you have a juju or term, there are still some decent alternatives before the juju, such as a venom's touch, and bonemerang, which was mentioned, but not good unless you have like 5 of them
although it will never happen, i would love to go back to pre eman update dungeon meta. mage, berz, and archer are equally good and take skill in swapping. although with some changes to make swapping a feature and less broken
@@aditive3906 why dia head and not just goldor helmet at this point. tanks don't need dps in the bossfight anyways and goldor gives way more ehp than a dia head. (it even outclasses the reaper mask in ehp, but reaper mask does have double healing which is why it is so good)
I think for a normal bow to work in dungeons it would need to have high pierce and for aiming to be a thing on it so it would clear kind of like a better FoT
I think a sick idea for tank weapons could work like made weapons where they do more damage on how much intelligence you have but it could go off of ur ehp or ur deff or health
its sad they will probably nerf term and me who started playing just to try that feeling of spamming with a term will never have the chance of using it. also if they do it rip to every person trying to get to cata 50
And um powliner about your berzerker learning swapping. You don’t have to do sword swapping because they do a lot of damage already and terminator is a m7 berserker set up.
I think I would argue that Mage doesn't have a great progression either; it's basically up to Spirit Sceptre, then you're locked in and stuck on f6 because the next actual weapon is just the hyperion, which is like more than 900m more expensive. The concept is basically that if you don't have hyperion, you just don't get accepted into f7 parties. Often, you have to switch classes temporarily until you can afford the hyp.
healer should get an ability like zenyatta from overwatch, where you could place a reduce damage or reduce defence on an enemy, and a plus damage or healing orb on your team
I think the dark claymore was a really good idea for end-game berserker, but the admins just killed it. Adding the longsword weapon was creative. All it needs is a unique weapon ability and balancing along with maybe a drop chance raise, and it would be a viable option for end-game bers. They should also change how soul eater buffs juju/term and balance juju and term. They should also add a weapon which heals a certain amount around you every time you hit or maybe a certain amount of damage.
bonemerang, spirit bow, death bow, last breath, super undead bow, undead bow, venom's touch, mosquito bow, spider queen stinger, souls rebound, and runaans bow are very good bows before juju
I think terminator and juju are still the clear weapon for mm just trash for normal catacomb, since most of the damage come from soul eater, the hardest part is to kill the first mob and it can clear very well, just no in the boss fight You just lose a few million of damage in mm while u deal hundreds of million damage
@@larfee5191 in normal catacomb soul eater dont give you a lot of damage but that is 2/3 of the damage and the damage sucks in normal catacomb going around 6-20m
to be honest, i disagree that bers has decent progression in the very early game. your first real option is a super cleaver, and it can't even be starred until f3 because that's the first time you can even get gold essence (zombie knights and king midas) unless you somehow grind to cata 20 before doing f3 and buy it if you're non-ironman. furthermore, bers needing to be so up close to even deal damage with barely any clearing potential sucks early on unless you bring a bow (which i'm pretty sure bers is not designed to clear with a bow, but terminator sure does exist huh) personally i think bers should get like a +1 or +2 block range class passive but get -25-30% arrow damage, along with an innate cleave ability and an actual bers designed dungeon sword that can be starred before f3 (seriously why does every other ophelia shop item take undead essence except the cleavers what the hell) i mean bers is still kinda ehh after f3 but at least bers has hyper cleaver which can be starred (which actually i like, as that is perfect for the f4 boss fight considering the cleave ability), but in reality there isn't a good single target true dungeon weapon until f5 for bers
I'm a dedicated *melee* berserk, but everything about higher floor dungeons just breaks me. Currently I'm using valk + aots swap but I already noticed that I suck too much to use this in master mode and it wouldn't really be worth practicing because it would still not replace a terminator. Another thing that I began to hate with a passion is how mindlessly people adapt the "no dupe arch" mantra. They legitimately refuse to go dupe arch, even if I'm 10 cata levels ahead and solo bers would double my damage. It feels like they think "solo arch" means "infinite damage".
Confirmed, thats why i haye arch litterally i join a "no dupe" party, when other arch joins they get kicked (saw a lvl 35 getting kicked by lvl 19) and then when a bers joins (I am bers) that dude ignores it and just starts the floor
I just thought about healer.. What if they add healing reduction to nerf healing in gerneral and give healer a new healing ability (true healing) th is not effected by healing reduction. So having a healer is important to out heal the damage. Also give him 1-50 (based on healer level) speed for every player in a 0-100 blocks radius (this speed buff is not effected by the speed limit) So a healer also speed up the run.
It still doesn't fix the issue of Healer being boring, only Speed won't fix that. And nerfing healing in general would be very bad because it's not like healing is broken right now. It's kind of needed, waiting for manual regeneration is very slow
Just make all regular bows (not shortbows) have 4x DMG or something (it can be 10x for all I care, I'm not a game dev) and can pierce instead of keeping them useless by adding more shortbow options.
Honestly, each damage-based class should also nerf any damage that's not from its own type, like how Archer nerfs Melee damage or w/e The best weapon for a melee class is supposed to be, well, a melee weapon, not a friggin bow And I really feel whatcha said for the Mage gear, especially since I'm a Mage main. Getting my Spirit Sceptre already hit my Bank a lot at the time, so now seeing that the next best weapons are either 50m+ or literally 100m+ is just like, ????? Also kinda unrelated, but the thought of non-Dungeon items not being Dungeonizable scares the crap outta me A bunch of items could potentially become completely useless, due to their main uses being Dungeons (i.e: Perfect Armor, Midas Staff, etc) I honestly don't get why they're separating Dungeons so much from the rest of the game in terms of progression
@@aditive3906 1. lemme list the stat-buffs (not Class Passives) each class has (I'll base this on my own Class Levels): Healer (13): None Mage (18): Intelligence +340 Berserk (13): Melee Damage +45.2%, Walk Speed +35.2 Archer (13): Arrow Damage +130.4, Melee Damage -25% Tank (11): Health +100 Defense +61 See any "Arrow Damage -X%" or anything anywhere? Nope 2. Both wikis also don't mention classes debuffing damage types aside from their own, aside from Archer All a class does is buff its own damage-type. The problem is that it's still possible for other damage-types to still end up stronger, which is why we have the friggin Juju Shortbow & Terminator as the best *Berserker* weapons & stuff
Still sad that the dark claymore is just a slightly better giant sword and not the best weapon for berserker while it’s a reference to berserk it would be nice to see it just be wildly strong
@iMrPoptartwe already do have lots of weapons, if there was a armor set that made any of them useful we would have pretty decent weapon progression for every class, except tank ad healer, which aren’t real classess
this was good bc they added new weapons like felthron reaper and the cheaper version of it I forgot bc nobody will spend 10mil on a sword worse than a clean aotd and bouquet of lies which is good if your super poor if u somehow have necron armor. also mage has like bad weapon progression it goes like 5mil - 18mil - 1bil at least bers is like 8mil - 70mil - 150mil - 250mil
sb players will choose aways the best class to play so if they buff everything the same thing will happen but with another class ig :I maybe if no dupe parties was a rule?
I absolutely agree with you, dude the mage progression is just sooo awful. I was playing f6 with the spirit sceptre until i got a giants sword, and now i dont know what i am supposed to do anymore because mage is the only class i leveled (even up to 30), and now i have to grind money for a fckn hyperion which costs as much as my entire networth. It feels like the hyperion is impossible to get for people that dont play the game 8 hours a day, which makes me really sad because i really want to play f7 but you literally cant play it without a hyperion as a mage.
hypixel: heres floor 7 players: cool hypixel: but you need this weapon to do it good *shows necron blades* players: ok but how do you get the weapon hypixel: from f7
If it makes you feel any better Hype really is a game changer. It's so good, even outside Dungeons it's insanely useful for healing and Mage will be very good in Nether update. I just recommend grinding coins but you could also go down the Juju route and just become Juju Archer until then.
MAGE HAS NOT GOOD PROGRESSION: Only sweats say it does.... Midas staff-Hyperion is literally a 700m difference and people never want you in a party in f7 so its so hard.....
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I think healer should become for of a buff class then just healing becuase then it would actually be useful in higher cata parties
The should rename it like support or something
@@Traktor6 that's a good idea. It could buff damage and ehp of other players
It should become like wisp from warframe
Well I mean if you ever play any RPG that's pretty much what healers do they heal they buff and debuff and they are the most feared and annoying thing on any team like if you ever sees anyone playing RPG or if you play one yourself you'll notice that the second you see in enemy that can heal or if you see your healer in danger you're going to do whatever you can either to get rid of them first before they can do anything or literally give your life and soul for them cuz they are the lifeblood of your team and also since I'm on my rent tanks are not really tanks they are walls which have completely different functions walls are slightly similar to tanks where they are slow and they have really high health and defense but that's about it walls are just there to draw attention to themselves and debuff the enemy they do not hit hard they are just there to just draw attention and look pretty while doing it while tanks go up to enemies face and smack them into the stratosphere it just takes them a bit before they could start going around smacking things again but when they're ready you better run or you will die I apologize for this paragraph of a comment I had to get this off my chest
Im a healer main lol
I'm very hopeful for the inevitable dungeons update. It seems like they're trying to make skyblock more RPG-like, especially after seeing the content from the nether update, so I think there's a lot of potential for making dungeons extremely fun
I think they should make a hypixel skyblock styled rpg with normal graphics for vr
A more rpg skyblock would ruin the game imo, skyblock is what it is for a reason and i feel like thats why its so popular. If you made it more of an rpg what is the point of not just logging into wynncraft instead?
@@acidswar I’m talking about a vr version based off of hypixel skyblock
basically wynncraft :troll:
I just want them to add more abilities to the game, and some sort of ability from skill progression would be pretty cool. An example is if you get alchemy up to a certain level, you can learn how to brew elixirs that are just as good as god pots, but are more focused on one thing, like combat, mining, or skill grinding.
I feel like the issue with healers is that it's easy to make it weak or overpowered and super hard to balance. If you remember lifesteal before the overhaul, yeah it's either that or this crap we have now.
And how should the healing be done? In a slower team mmo healers need to decide who to heal and when, but skyblock it's just brrrr and form a tether with the tank. Again here, introducing a new way of healing here could either be just pressing 1 button and team healing infinity health every second for 69s or timing wish correctly with scoreboard health updating once a second when people are getting hit 10 times a second.
Admins went with the careful option which leaves healers weak. Werewolf armor is the only good, working healer concept they made for a fast paced game. Holy dragon armor won't cut it, the natural regen isn't enough. We need something before and after werewolf, and better healing helmets too
Some more healing items would also be nice, I would love to have so many that I have to choose which ones to use. The zombie swords, power orbs, and few other slight support/buffing items feels pretty bad when dealing with higher floors.
@@S0l1tud3 yeah, you can choose many but not everything fits into the hotbar, and the healing items which are good like power orbs are kinda passive. Also the comment is old and werewolf healing, although already niche, was nerfed to the ground, but dungeon healer helmets were changed for the mending stat, which scales with dungeon level and is very powerful at higher levels, worth over reaper mask which only doubles your likely base 100 mending
There should be a whole team dedicated to making new weapons, making them more diverse and balancing them.
yea, in and out of dungeons, cuz for dungeons its just people with archer setup and terms, and berserker is the only class out of dungeons, wanna do enderman, it don't take range or magic damage, I don't think blaze dose either.
@@Blue_Dogeeman do take ranged and magic damage tho
@@squig1636 ??? did they change that? cuz last I knew they didn't
Although this might be a stretch, the healer could get a new ability to get a fraction of the perks (ex. the archer’s increased bow damage/ decreased melee damage) so that it buffs the class to be usable in lower level catacombs without making it too broken. If the admins wanted to, the ability can scale based on the level of their other classes, so it gives them the incentive to play other classes.
I think healer should be changed to just support (obviously a better name) like healing buffing damage and ability's. its sad cuz one of my co-op members is a healer and he cant do much
I would love to see some gear similar to werewolf in dungeons for tanks. Make some gear that is tanky and encourages multi hitting and then combine it with some hp scaling weapons. Basically something to replace pooch and mastiff with a bit of combat stuff added in. Some basic stuff so that tanks can at least do okay at clearing weak mobs in the dungeon. Tanks shouldn't replace dps classes or whatever, but should at least be able to do something.
I like how healer is just another class with a mender helmet (of one of the three levels) because it means that I can swap between classes to go to another class if there is dupe healer/beserker/archer
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More weapon options for each stage of the game would be great, especially once the changes to starred items roll out whenever that's happening, classes already have pretty wonky progression gear wise and taking away what little options there already are for each stage of the game will make things even worse, and if the admins don't address it dungeons will be pretty bad imo.
We can only hope the admins are aware of this and intend to introduce new weapons and gear to each floor
Runaans is amazing for super-early archer, its really good for how cheap it is and can carry up to f3 with good gear.
The Hog Rider card is unlocked from the Spell Valley (Arena 5). He is a very fast building-targeting, melee troop with moderately high hitpoints and damage. He appears just like his Clash of Clans counterpart; a man with brown eyebrows, a beard, a mohawk, and a golden body piercing in his left ear who is riding a hog. A Hog Rider card costs 4 Elixir to deploy.
Strategy:-
His fast move speed can boost forward mini tanks like an Ice Golem in a push. At the same time, he can also function as a tank for lower hitpoint troops such as Goblins as he still has a fair amount of health. Most cheap swarms complement the Hog Rider well, as they are nearly as fast as him and usually force more than one card out of the opponent's hand.
The Hog Rider struggles with swarms, as they can damage him down and defeat him quickly while obstructing his path. Barbarians in particular can fully counter him without very strict timing on the defender's part, though be wary of spells.
A Hunter can kill the Hog Rider in 2 hits if placed right on top of it. However, if you place something in front of the Hog Rider, the Hunter's splash will damage the Hog Rider and hit the card in front of it more.
The Hog Rider in conjunction with the Freeze can surprise the opponent and allow the Hog Rider to deal much more damage than anticipated, especially if the opponent's go-to counter is a swarm, or swarms are their only effective counter to him. Skeletons and Bats will immediately be defeated by the spell, while Spear Goblins, Goblins, and Minions will be at low enough health to be defeated by a follow up Zap or Giant Snowball.
However, this strategy isn't very effective against buildings as the Hog Rider will take a while to destroy the building, giving the opponent ample time to articulate another counter
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comment something related to the video man
Its calles I joke i think (joke)
When me and my friends started an iron Man co-op I played Arch and used a machine gun bow with the bow ability and the class ability double rapid fire was fun to use especially against many bosses but I agree that without a short bow clear is just not as good as mage
i use the doubleult combo normally, it does big boi damage
As an ironman f3 mage, the early game dungeons is so unbalanced.
Damn. That Pogfraction face got me bro 🤣
Artisanal Shortbow: I exist!
Powliner: No.
FOT clearing was actually the old M5 meta, and it'll be viable if swapping with the ability still works. AOTS is only good because it multiplies the swapped weapons dmg, so technically no terminator clearing will still be 'decent' . Nowhere near term, but still fast.
Another thing about yeti and midas. The gold blocks will block your archer's arrows, I assume the same for yeti's ability so those are nil anyways.
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Alr so I am sick this whole week already, this vid just made my day. They make me laugh always (Plss keep up the very amazing work powliner!!!!)
Lmao same
I had 6 exams
hope u get better bro much love
@@Powliner tysm king 👑!!
that might just be the greatest intro in all of youtube's history
Actually achers have 3 bows the first being Artisanal shortbow only good in entrance
5:20 “Also known as WHEATLY VODKA” man I’m dead💀
they fixed the archer problem kind of
they added dragon shortbow which is easily obtainable in the end and it isnt half bad for the stage of the game its used for. They did make it harder to get juju bow tho
The Enrager, the most relevant and useful weapon in the entire game 💀
I’d just like to say this is a video I was hoping would get made for awhile because dungeons do feel stale. recently I’ve changed my setup to healer but it’s kinda hard since your only option realistically is a tank with mender crown or werewolf which I keep throwing money at but it hasn’t worked because it’s werewolf and it’s incredibly underwhelming in dungeons due to lack of useful stats u need to constantly find a way to buff and I know there’s mage but there should be more to a class than picking gear from one class and choosing healer if you read this great, if not I know it’s long keep in mind it’s just my opinion pls no hate.
Mage does have some use in m7, an actually maxed Mage (gdrag chim5 claymore with 10 star everything max everything etc) can blood camp m7, and can aggro in boss, and does a near respectable amount to drags, or you can play fake Mage, which is using a term with a side order or sadness.
I don't need sleep, i need weapons!
"Where they go" legendary xD 1:09
If the admins had a spark of creativity imagine how good skyblock would be
If only they like, hired people that actually work
just a little bit of a healer gear guide because powliner doesn't want to
basicly what you want to do copy is another class gear then slap it with a mender crown (or mender fedora if you are broke)
Power creep always will exist and make late/end game players much more OP. I think term is the only solution for low cata players looking to do master mode (cata 34 - 40 doing m3 - m5), because by the time they update dungeons, the people now at cata 24 - 34 will be at 34 - 40 when dungeons update hits, and without an op weapon they will struggle, but the people now at cata like 34 - 40, will be at cata 42 - 48. And they can just buy the new weapon. So the only way to balance term is to keep it in the game permanently, else the people who use it now will gain cata xp so much faster than people who don't have it. I just got a term in mid/late February, I was cata 36, now in 1.5 months I'm already almost cata 43, by the time dungeons update comes I'll probably be cata 46 - 48 won't even need a term and can just buy the next OP item. Powercreep will always happen
They should make healer heal yourself when ever other people heal. It would allow dps weapons
If no dungeonize items then everyone using giants sword and f6 stuff
All of these little comedic bits in between are absolutely hilarious
0:04 A pilot on par with Joseph Joestar
The need to add more aoe weapons for most classes archer is fine with juju and term juju is a bit slower mage is still king in non master mode tanks should be able to do more damage in tank gear so maybe make an item that scales with ur defense as damage like warden helm but for tanks and healers should be a buffer giving everyone like x amount of int/str/def/cd for whatever class ur playing while still having wish maybe buff wish to make it so everyone deal 1.25x their damage for 10 seconds
I think that's a feature they should add to long swords, or an ability
Admins never tested the new weapon before it comes out. When they find out the new weapon is broken, they just keep nerfing the stats of it. Or just completely kills it (bone thingy☠️)(rip☠️☠️)
This is the main reason why only a few weapons in skyblock are worth using
Nah they know it’s op they just release like that so youtubers can get clickbait
Generally I think they do test stuff but sometimes it really feels like they just put some random stats on it and let the community decide how good it is, yeah.
Love when the mage just gets shredded by the sa
while i do agree that archer is t really viable unless you have a juju or term, there are still some decent alternatives before the juju, such as a venom's touch, and bonemerang, which was mentioned, but not good unless you have like 5 of them
although it will never happen, i would love to go back to pre eman update dungeon meta. mage, berz, and archer are equally good and take skill in swapping. although with some changes to make swapping a feature and less broken
Yes because mage was definitely balanced back then 👀
@@huhwa8625 Not like bone swapping did a couple hundred mil
we need pre eman dungeon back
BRO I LOVE THE INTRO
Also, if they remove dungeonizing regular gear, there won't be a reaper mask making tank a lot more doo doo
Tank is broken as is. I don't think it'll be much worse without Reaper Mask
@@aditive3906 why dia head and not just goldor helmet at this point. tanks don't need dps in the bossfight anyways and goldor gives way more ehp than a dia head. (it even outclasses the reaper mask in ehp, but reaper mask does have double healing which is why it is so good)
I think for a normal bow to work in dungeons it would need to have high pierce and for aiming to be a thing on it so it would clear kind of like a better FoT
Never thought someone would say mage had a healthy mage progression.
yea no class has a really healthy progression besides kind of berserker
10/10 intro cracked pilot
Man I do love Pilotliner’s videos :))
lmao my g leader at 6:27 MMisEz
I think a sick idea for tank weapons could work like made weapons where they do more damage on how much intelligence you have but it could go off of ur ehp or ur deff or health
its sad they will probably nerf term and me who started playing just to try that feeling of spamming with a term will never have the chance of using it. also if they do it rip to every person trying to get to cata 50
Im a hype mage
@@TheReal4L3X Fun fact 2 years later they only really buffed it
Dragon short bow and spirit shortbow where? 💀
im never played smthing else than mage and thats my weapon progression:
aote (not gud)
bonzo staff
sprirt sceptre
hype (if i had money)
Midas staff an upgrade on spirit sceptre, yeti sword upgrade in Midas staff, 100m Midas staff an upgrade on yeti sword and then hype
Archer weapon progression is as follows: Artisinal Shortbow, Dragon Shortbow, Spirit Bow or Bonemerang, Juju Shortbow, Terminator.
It's always a good day when powliner uploads
And um powliner about your berzerker learning swapping. You don’t have to do sword swapping because they do a lot of damage already and terminator is a m7 berserker set up.
I think I would argue that Mage doesn't have a great progression either; it's basically up to Spirit Sceptre, then you're locked in and stuck on f6 because the next actual weapon is just the hyperion, which is like more than 900m more expensive. The concept is basically that if you don't have hyperion, you just don't get accepted into f7 parties. Often, you have to switch classes temporarily until you can afford the hyp.
fr, and how are u suppose to get a hype if u get kicked from f7 parties (ah is pricey af)
He said it had a better progression than the others but still garbage
healer should get an ability like zenyatta from overwatch, where you could place a reduce damage or reduce defence on an enemy, and a plus damage or healing orb on your team
yea we rly need some weapons for mage the best weapon u can have is a midas before u get a hyperion and for arch the bst is juju bow before terminator
I think the dark claymore was a really good idea for end-game berserker, but the admins just killed it. Adding the longsword weapon was creative. All it needs is a unique weapon ability and balancing along with maybe a drop chance raise, and it would be a viable option for end-game bers. They should also change how soul eater buffs juju/term and balance juju and term. They should also add a weapon which heals a certain amount around you every time you hit or maybe a certain amount of damage.
zombie soldier cutlass be like:
Don't ever let powerliner fly a plane
5:55 definetly I hear Dark Champion(btd6/btdb2) upgrade sfx (Ive heard it for 3 times, it cannoy be wrong)
1:08 I laughed at it and rewatched it like 20 times XD
bonemerang, spirit bow, death bow, last breath, super undead bow, undead bow, venom's touch, mosquito bow, spider queen stinger, souls rebound, and runaans bow are very good bows before juju
Imagine if they made weapon that is based off of defense and made like a seismic wave thing
Bro this video is so good every now and then I come back to watch it again
Juju archer progression
1. Save up money
2. Buy a juju
3. Why dont i deal enough damage?
4. Buy talismans
5. Git gud
6. Buy terminator
7. The End
@@aditive3906 i forgor lol
I think terminator and juju are still the clear weapon for mm just trash for normal catacomb, since most of the damage come from soul eater, the hardest part is to kill the first mob and it can clear very well, just no in the boss fight
You just lose a few million of damage in mm while u deal hundreds of million damage
wdym trash for normal catacomb what
term is master mode juju
change my mind
@@larfee5191 in normal catacomb soul eater dont give you a lot of damage but that is 2/3 of the damage and the damage sucks in normal catacomb going around 6-20m
@@Jason-dy7eo so what is ur point ??
@@larfee5191 so it went from dps and clearing weapon for archer now it just become a normal clearing weapon
to be honest, i disagree that bers has decent progression in the very early game. your first real option is a super cleaver, and it can't even be starred until f3 because that's the first time you can even get gold essence (zombie knights and king midas) unless you somehow grind to cata 20 before doing f3 and buy it if you're non-ironman. furthermore, bers needing to be so up close to even deal damage with barely any clearing potential sucks early on unless you bring a bow (which i'm pretty sure bers is not designed to clear with a bow, but terminator sure does exist huh)
personally i think bers should get like a +1 or +2 block range class passive but get -25-30% arrow damage, along with an innate cleave ability and an actual bers designed dungeon sword that can be starred before f3 (seriously why does every other ophelia shop item take undead essence except the cleavers what the hell)
i mean bers is still kinda ehh after f3 but at least bers has hyper cleaver which can be starred (which actually i like, as that is perfect for the f4 boss fight considering the cleave ability), but in reality there isn't a good single target true dungeon weapon until f5 for bers
The intro was recorded on september 11th 2001
They should make bows do tons less damage when you play non archer classes, this is a perfect way to fix skyblock
i like this idea
Yeah and make every other class take 7 years to clear in master mode
R43
I'm a dedicated *melee* berserk, but everything about higher floor dungeons just breaks me.
Currently I'm using valk + aots swap but I already noticed that I suck too much to use this in master mode and it wouldn't really be worth practicing because it would still not replace a terminator.
Another thing that I began to hate with a passion is how mindlessly people adapt the "no dupe arch" mantra.
They legitimately refuse to go dupe arch, even if I'm 10 cata levels ahead and solo bers would double my damage. It feels like they think "solo arch" means "infinite damage".
Confirmed, thats why i haye arch litterally i join a "no dupe" party, when other arch joins they get kicked (saw a lvl 35 getting kicked by lvl 19) and then when a bers joins (I am bers) that dude ignores it and just starts the floor
true bers isnt even viable in m6 and i tried so hard to make it work but nothing can ever beat term (so we need to nerf it into the ground)
I just thought about healer..
What if they add healing reduction to nerf healing in gerneral and give healer a new healing ability (true healing) th is not effected by healing reduction. So having a healer is important to out heal the damage. Also give him 1-50 (based on healer level) speed for every player in a 0-100 blocks radius (this speed buff is not effected by the speed limit)
So a healer also speed up the run.
It still doesn't fix the issue of Healer being boring, only Speed won't fix that. And nerfing healing in general would be very bad because it's not like healing is broken right now. It's kind of needed, waiting for manual regeneration is very slow
Just make all regular bows (not shortbows) have 4x DMG or something (it can be 10x for all I care, I'm not a game dev) and can pierce instead of keeping them useless by adding more shortbow options.
I'm pretty sure they'd still be awful sadly. Normal bows in Dungeons just can't work
@@Powliner yeah you have to charge the bow for every shot it's so cringe and takes a lot of speed
@@Powliner me sittin here with a t7 mosquito- it technically has more single-shot damage than term. (ign eaterofbread21)
I think its for that you are not a game dev
Powliner we gotta know about your thumbnails there so cool man!
Or just go for mining setup and grind 2b for a hype 💀
6:01 did you know that an item that reduces an enemy’s damage is called the ice spray?
Tbh I think healer is good so you revive when there is a healer and so no dupe but in master modes you have skilled players
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Honestly, each damage-based class should also nerf any damage that's not from its own type, like how Archer nerfs Melee damage or w/e
The best weapon for a melee class is supposed to be, well, a melee weapon, not a friggin bow
And I really feel whatcha said for the Mage gear, especially since I'm a Mage main. Getting my Spirit Sceptre already hit my Bank a lot at the time, so now seeing that the next best weapons are either 50m+ or literally 100m+ is just like, ?????
Also kinda unrelated, but the thought of non-Dungeon items not being Dungeonizable scares the crap outta me
A bunch of items could potentially become completely useless, due to their main uses being Dungeons (i.e: Perfect Armor, Midas Staff, etc)
I honestly don't get why they're separating Dungeons so much from the rest of the game in terms of progression
@@aditive3906
1. lemme list the stat-buffs (not Class Passives) each class has (I'll base this on my own Class Levels):
Healer (13): None
Mage (18): Intelligence +340
Berserk (13): Melee Damage +45.2%, Walk Speed +35.2
Archer (13): Arrow Damage +130.4, Melee Damage -25%
Tank (11): Health +100 Defense +61
See any "Arrow Damage -X%" or anything anywhere? Nope
2. Both wikis also don't mention classes debuffing damage types aside from their own, aside from Archer
All a class does is buff its own damage-type. The problem is that it's still possible for other damage-types to still end up stronger, which is why we have the friggin Juju Shortbow & Terminator as the best *Berserker* weapons & stuff
@@aditive3906 Yeah I'm saying other classes should do like that too, not just Archer
they really need to make more shortbows. like they can cap the atk speed but like please i dont want to remember my times clearing with a spirit bow
what's your texture pack for hypixel?
What is the mod ur using to give certain items their own texture?
Its a texture pack called furfsky requires 1.8.9 optifine
I m waiting new weapons since sword swap nerf !!
For the f2 bow they should make something called a scarf’s scarf where you throw it out like a bonemerang
Still sad that the dark claymore is just a slightly better giant sword and not the best weapon for berserker while it’s a reference to berserk it would be nice to see it just be wildly strong
1:07 now thats dirty
Artisinal shortbow exists so maybe you could use that pre-juju
i think instead of new weapons we need new armor, esspecialy new armor that synergizes with certian weapons/weapon types
@iMrPoptartwe already do have lots of weapons, if there was a armor set that made any of them useful we would have pretty decent weapon progression for every class, except tank ad healer, which aren’t real classess
If they were to stop regular items from getting dungeonized, they would have to add so, so many new dungeon weapons.
this was good bc they added new weapons like felthron reaper and the cheaper version of it I forgot bc nobody will spend 10mil on a sword worse than a clean aotd and bouquet of lies which is good if your super poor if u somehow have necron armor. also mage has like bad weapon progression it goes like 5mil - 18mil - 1bil at least bers is like 8mil - 70mil - 150mil - 250mil
Comment for the algorithm tbh, good video, ty daddy pow
I have a friend who is tonk and he uses livid head (we do f5 until he gets an sf) and necron then in boss golder
i'm glad you made a video, that mean nether update is in like 5 minutes
fins down best skyblock youtuber
Pilotliner updated yaaaay
sb players will choose aways the best class to play so if they buff everything the same thing will happen but with another class ig :I maybe if no dupe parties was a rule?
they need to add a shortbow that is a dungeon craft or drop when 1.0 comes out
Healer = sad tank 💀
I absolutely agree with you, dude the mage progression is just sooo awful. I was playing f6 with the spirit sceptre until i got a giants sword, and now i dont know what i am supposed to do anymore because mage is the only class i leveled (even up to 30), and now i have to grind money for a fckn hyperion which costs as much as my entire networth. It feels like the hyperion is impossible to get for people that dont play the game 8 hours a day, which makes me really sad because i really want to play f7 but you literally cant play it without a hyperion as a mage.
hypixel: heres floor 7
players: cool
hypixel: but you need this weapon to do it good *shows necron blades*
players: ok but how do you get the weapon
hypixel: from f7
If it makes you feel any better Hype really is a game changer. It's so good, even outside Dungeons it's insanely useful for healing and Mage will be very good in Nether update. I just recommend grinding coins but you could also go down the Juju route and just become Juju Archer until then.
@@Powliner that is what I am currently doing. Getting my self 2/4 maxor, necron cp, and golden necron head until I get like 800m.
Yay! Im Always excited when Powliner uploads! 😁
Fun fact: They did patch AotS Swapping on the Alpha Once
But the Community started making a Revolution similar to Dante so...
if they had patched that, archer would be the only good class in mm (other then a very skilled rcm - lcm mage)
MAGE HAS NOT GOOD PROGRESSION:
Only sweats say it does....
Midas staff-Hyperion is literally a 700m difference and people never want you in a party in f7 so its so hard.....
Sweat's usual game progression is Undead Sword >Giant Sword > Terminator
There is no in between.
I literally talked about this in the video. It depends on how much the price bothers you.
@@Powliner i commented this like right when you said that