I think it’s stupid that people are saying that Kratos is universal. I don’t care what kind of feats you throw at me. I have never seen in any of the games, any of the main games, any of the PSP games or the two newer games. I’ve never seen kratos or anyone that kratos has fought One shot an island or a continent let alone a moon or a planet. I think it is ludicrous saying that he is universal. Hell Aries in the first game, it took him days assaulting Athens, and he still couldn’t destroy it. We saw Napa one shot a city in the saiyan saga , I don’t think Kratos could even handle master Roshi during dragon ball to be honest. I’ve never seen anything from kratos in any of the games that would prove that he could. The power scaling community can be down right stupid at times.
@@Shaolinstout We can literally debate this on livestream. Your dumbass has kratos below planet LMFAO ill embarrass the shit out of you. Tell me when you want to stream little buddy😂😂😂
@@bolobagginz3240 depends on which one being use. The penance stare mainly works on people that kill the innocent and people who have felt guilty for the wrong they've done. Obviously its different forms of it but I don't think either one could work on spawn he's pretty busted
@@bolobagginz3240 short answer is no i don't think spawn feels guilty for punishing demons and criminals lol and i definitely don't think ghost rider finna obliterate spawns soul. That's all i gotta say
Destroying planets for breakfast is on an entirely different scope of capabilities from entities who rely on the very planets (realms) they inhabit to survive, we've yet to see if any GoW character can survive the vacuum of space, until then, there's too much nuance to generalize them by comparison. Let's actually use that smoothened out lump of flesh between our ears yeah?
Or hulk. If the genjutsu work on either of em maybe. But I don’t think that’ll work. Cause it wouldn’t work on goku and he not smarter than Thor. And I dont think goku can fw comic book thor
The Gods will be spared and all of Goku’s enemies will be brutally murdered. Anyway I still wanna see Scarlet Witch and Raven swap fights or Man Thing and Swamp Thing swap fights.
Iron Man would’ve got his ass whooped in Civil War, Winter Soldier wouldve been on a T shirt, the stronger people Cap fought probably would give Chief a much harder time but I would honestly love to see that vid
I literally have been begging people who comment goofy stuff like this to debate me All keep ducking💔 wish goku fans had more testosterone forreal. Shits so annoying.
@@BigSirSplash What is there to debate? The only thing Kratos has on his side is silly statements and "Hurr Durr he has the power of hope so he can't be beat DURR" arguments. Show me Kratos wiping out a solar system with nothing but his actual power and then we'll talk. Hell show me Kratos blowing up a planet in one go, that's entree level for Dragonball at this point 😂
@@arcadius3257 Yo it’s crazy how it was confirmed a clash between Thor & the World Serpent damaged the Yggdrasil, and Kratos is packing firepower to both match & surpass Thor in ap Also crazy how Kratos has killed/beaten primordials, titans, and gods that outscale universes & multiversal constructs………Crazy Kratos while holding back heavily shook an infinite realm just by boxing with a dragon in Midgard. Bet you’re one of those dudes that doesn’t pay attention to game lore huh
@@tchoythao1730proficient isn’t the problem, the guy learned the kamehameha just by watching it be done once. The guy is a natural prodigy amongst prodigies when it comes to fighting. He would pull off the mafuba with very little to no problem. It’s not stoped by magic users or “gods”. He can use any sort of device to trap them be it jars just lying around or chests. Roshi’s mafuba grabbed Vegeta with a simole misdirection and the guy couldn’t get out on his own. With a power difference that big, Goku should be able to grab anyone of these. The only problem would be he simply forgets he could do that, or he simply wants to try his own fight first. If he remembers the technique and knows its a do or die moment, yeah he could whip it out with nothing stopping him.
Actually after watching thinking that he kinda just gets outscaled by the higher tiers like. Odin and the zues brothers. Would be most interested in his fight against aries.
This was a fantastic video to watch I would definitely love to see Kratos go against Broly and Beerus along with seeing Goku vs Heimdall and Baldur. For a battle swap either Deathstroke and Deadpool or Wonder Woman and Storm
@@BigSirSplash I know nothing about Kratos which is why I was asking if there was a way I could look up his feats lol. I just know that Thanos would have a hard time with Frieza and I would argue at Frieza's weakest form too. I mean he was able to blow up planet Vegeta with his one finger like it was nothing and at the time he did I believe Vegeta's father tried to also stop the blast from touching down, but it was too powerful. Also, I think that even you said Buu can destroy dimensions or something? Does Kratos have any feats for that also? I am not saying he does not because I admit I know little about him.
Kratos is stronger than Thor who splintered the world tree that is infinite in size and holds infinite infinitely sized realms. Thor also hit jorm hard enough to send him back in time
Mm it kinda depends on how strong beerus hakai is. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that he can't necessarily erase kratos. But i am saying it really does depend on how strong his hakai is. Because from what we know if you are strong enough you can overcome the hakai or nullify it. Besides kratos has a lot of sources that proves he's ridiculously strong and has hax resistances. Also resistance to fate too
@@omega-xk4gj he does hold it still it was confirmed by the creator. But his immortality is something that wasn't really explained. I love your explanation but its never been definitively proven why he can't die. For me I'd just say it's two reasons. 1.the universe needs him 2.his will is to great for death to claim him. Those are just my two personal theories. yours is good too
This actually makes me sad we don't know abiut many of the bad guys omniman fought before he killed the guardians of the globe. The only one comes to mind is that dragon guy
Ngl ima need powerscaing on this, cuz look no disrespect job, but when I watch these it feels like it’s u just guessing. I’m not in your discord so I don’t know if ur power scales are in there, but Thanatos one had me thinkin “can’t goku jus out scale him? And it negates?”. Otherwise love the vids
Ive made multiple scaling videos on goku and kratos before. This series isnt for deep dives into scaling. Go watch me guess on those videos if you want more info.
Very interesting matchups who i think a very cool especially if we take these guy's at their peak, i agree with a majority of them although i kind of disagree with Hades and a little bit with Odin. Hades has crazy soul hax but we've seen Goku deal with stuff like hakai who can delete Zamasu and it's even implied if he didn't have the time ring the Hakai would've fucked him over and it's also stated to work on Arale who legit survived plot erasure (i am not bullshiting you, i'll link the scan when i find it back) so i think he could survive Hades' haxes and when he realizes what he's capable off he'd become serious and would go for the kill which we've seen him do with Cell, Frieza and Moro if i'm not wrong. For Odin he does have OP AF Magic, the thing is that we don't really see him using it in his fight with Kratos and Atreus and he rather just uses blast and elemental attacks, but tbh outside of that i think the rest is fair
How does goku kill whats already dead? We also have never seen goku actively fight for his soul Odin has poison magic etc. This is 100% effective vs goku. Lol.
@@BigSirSplash I mean we've seen Hakai worked on ghost mf's who are already dead so technically you could argue he could take him down that way also we've seen Goku resist Hakai which destroys the soul so technically he's resisted soul hax 🤷🏾♂️ although it's not the same soul hax Hades uses, i don't really know how potent poison magic is so i'll agree with you on that
@@BigSirSplash Honestly that's fair, i can see why you're not sold. Edit: i fucking hate youtube's stupid ass system that deletes my motherfucking links
@@BigSirSplashyeah also to note in dragon ball death is more a state of being that your just dead and can't do anything bro was dead and was aloud to have a physical body so he can keep getting stronger. Stronger and it's also stated that Saiyans in general have hyper evolution so they would be in the same boat the the hard to kill lizard and doomsday so if it doesn't immediately kill Saiyans the hyper evolution will kick and make them more resistant until they could effortlessly tough it out
Hulks rogues _are_ pretty fun. Xemnu and leader might get a W out of sheer telepathy hacks. I wonder if onslaught would count since he's more of a one shot enemy
Great video but I wish you didnt jump around with who Kratos was fighting, it would have been more interesting if he linearly ran through the fights but maybe thats just my opinion.
I know power is debatable as Kratos' strength seems to vary. I think it's obvious dragonball characters would win just because of how fast they are. Everyone from Raditz on is faster than the speed of light. I don't see how Kratos could land a hit.
I seriously hope that this is a Joke. In case it isn't. Kratos already scales above the Light of Helios which could Light up the Infinite Hell of Hades as well as to Hermes who could traverse said Infinite Hell to deliver Souls On top of the Primordials being entities that had a whole War before Time existed as a Concept
@@omega-xk4gj That was an exaggeration. It's disproven in 2 games. 1. In Chains of Olympus, Persephone ordered Helio's abduction and brought him to Hades. Atlas intercepted Persephone and kidnapped Helios for himself because he needed his light to destroy the Pillar of the World (located in Hades' hell). 2. In God of War 3, Helios' strongest light attack was used against Kratos. It was beaten by Kratos putting his hand out to create a shadow for his eyes. Kratos didn't even get a sunburn. Kratos' speed does not scale up to Hermes. Kratos killed Hermes in GOW3 by destroying a statue Hermes was standing on resulting in an injured leg. Hermes confirms he's moving slower with the phrase, "I'm still quick enough for you." Hermes cannot move fast enough to time travel. Goku did twice. Once as blue kaioken against Hit (in the anime it's time travel, in the manga it's nullifying Hit's technique through sheer power) and another time as blue Gogeta against Broly. The primordials are canonically weaker than the Titans who aren't strong enough to jump up a mountain with their own mountain's worth of weight. Raditz can do that no problem. When they fought doesn't seem relevant.
@@omega-xk4gj Bruh. If you're right then refute my claims. Killing Hermes doesn't make Kratos faster than Hermes. Killing Helios doesn't mean Kratos can output power equal to Helios. The only impressive feat (by DragonBall standards) from the Helios fight is that Kratos could tank a sun level attack without injuries.
@@fdd4957 Usually for a debate of this nature there needs to be a base of understanding. We as of now lack that. You are putting Kratos at Mountain to Star level and below Light speed. That's a Big gap in interpretation. Something that will take a lot of back and forth to reach a common ground. Now, you may have the time and resolve to do it but I just don't have that level of patience or commitment to GoW to make that argument. Hence I told you to keep to your opinions. Thank you, and have a nice day
good vids i really like the kratos content our boy been getting disrespected lately. i would love to see dante and kratos swap fights i think that would be pretty interesting
I think it would be close in a battle, both have pretty relative scxaling and can be wanked to extreme measures. For the nex swap i would say Sonic and Mario with their strong arguments
@@The-Endo-SymArmorid actually argue against the doomsday however, depends who we use its only fair lol basic forms of doomsday is sorta a wash in kratos favor, hell doomsday and other such upper echeolons would require kratos's weird feats as well and thats just a wash again in kratos's favor. Normal kratos and the hell doomsday i feel it would be a titanic clash. But thats my opinion could be swayed really depends on how its approached. Changed my opinion, I forget how big the DC cosmology actually is, even tho I hate it yeah it does happen to be an L for my man Kratos. Sure hope Santa Monica give him a bump or something lol
@@The-Endo-SymArmor that's not a fair fight, tho I don't see that being the case hopefully in the coming decade or two. Tho what is the highest you can get with GoW without the fiction breaking stuff or extras kratos himself has done, like the world is like a universe that supposedly holds even more universes in set locations (if that makes sense) how high does it go and how high could they get with everything they have explained up to now?
Sort of off topic, but Ultra Ego Vegeta vs Baldur would be a fantastic match up. Vegeta would win. On topic, I don't think Goku beats Odin. He is far smarter, craftier, and has a bunch of hax. If all else fails he could manipulate him.
Using Xeno Goku’s villains is odd to me, because we know that Xeno and Capsule Corp Goku scale waaay higher than Goku from the manga and even the anime
Golden Meta Cooler. My only problem with this is that when you bring in someone like him, it’s hard to know whether or not you are scaling all of his villains to Xeno/CC or just the peak of the anime. If it’s just the anime, then the other villains make sense, but if we’re talking about Xeno/CC, then those villains are in a completely different tier than what we’ve seen in the manga and anime.
@@MrSSJ3VEGITO oh nah i wasnt scaling all of them to xeno or anything lol. I had meant just meta cooler and realized after(forgot to cut out although i was talking about regular MC)
I kinda don't agree with your assessment of Thor vs Goku mostly because I don't think we ever see Thor at his best from what we learn in God of War it seems Thor has kinda mentally nerfed himself
Goku will whoop thors ass on the fact thor fights pretty dumb. Pure rage and not very good with the hands in comparison to goku. In instinct form goku is breaking thors jaw pretty quickly.
Wouldn't Hit win against Kratos with his one shot Heart Piercing tecnique that used on Goku? After all the only reason he did not die from that is pure luck. Especially if this is a solo fight meaning no Revival crystals from allies for Kratos.
While I personally am a little skeptical in the stats comparison, the attack in itself won’t kill Kratos. He’s already been stabbed in vital areas and has a regen heal. It’ll hurt like hell and is probably useful, but don’t think it alone can kill Kratos.
@@tchoythao1730kratos was knocked out by thor and could have been killed because he held back. Hit has a chance in a vital area. To regen kratos has to concentrate. Faye could have killed him with her sword as it shows his health in danger zone when stabbed in the chest. Ragnarok kratos flaw is holding back too much. Odin could have killed him twice as well but instead chose to monologue.
I think it’s stupid that people are saying that Kratos is universal. I don’t care what kind of feats you throw at me. I have never seen in any of the games, any of the main games, any of the PSP games or the two newer games. I’ve never seen kratos or anyone that kratos has fought One shot an island or a continent let alone a moon or a planet. I think it is ludicrous saying that he is universal. Hell Aries in the first game, it took him days assaulting Athens, and he still couldn’t destroy it. We saw Napa one shot a city in the saiyan saga , I don’t think Kratos could even handle master Roshi during dragon ball to be honest. I’ve never seen anything from kratos in any of the games that would prove that he could. The power scaling community can be down right stupid at times.
I absolutely agree the power scaling community can absolutely be stupid sometimes.
This comment is a beautiful example
@@BigSirSplash Why because I’m calling your ridiculous video.
@@Shaolinstout you are calling my video? Word.
You are dumb.
@@BigSirSplash Dumb because my opinion on a fictional character doesn’t match yours. Ok
@@Shaolinstout We can literally debate this on livestream. Your dumbass has kratos below planet LMFAO ill embarrass the shit out of you.
Tell me when you want to stream little buddy😂😂😂
What if Ghost Rider and Spawn Swapped Fights?
Yeah ghost rider and spawn swap..cause i think if they went against each other spawn wins
@@cordellchester2164 would the penance stare effect spawn🤔? honest question
@@bolobagginz3240 depends on which one being use.
The penance stare mainly works on people that kill the innocent and people who have felt guilty for the wrong they've done. Obviously its different forms of it but I don't think either one could work on spawn he's pretty busted
@@bolobagginz3240 short answer is no i don't think spawn feels guilty for punishing demons and criminals lol and i definitely don't think ghost rider finna obliterate spawns soul.
That's all i gotta say
I could see Ghost Rider sliding a lot of Spawn's enemies
Lowkey interesting asf since as weird as it is to say Goku and Kratos' enemies aren't too different in terms of power
They are more relative than people give them credit for, especially goku
Stop the cap
@@bolobagginz3240 bros capping
If you highball the db characters then ya
Destroying planets for breakfast is on an entirely different scope of capabilities from entities who rely on the very planets (realms) they inhabit to survive, we've yet to see if any GoW character can survive the vacuum of space, until then, there's too much nuance to generalize them by comparison. Let's actually use that smoothened out lump of flesh between our ears yeah?
People I think don’t realize how absurd Kratos is when he is scaled based on literal interpretations of some of his feats.
Did yyou watch all dbz-dbs manga, anime, movies............ or are you gonna compare kid buu to jiren?
Literal would mean he is universal video makes zero sense and ppl can't scale DBS properly even with feats and statements
These battle swaps get better every time
Low key I could see Goku straight up training magni and Moghdi mid fight to make it more fun, what you guys think
Like he did with Kale and Caulifla
@@josephdent6825 yeah dude would probably be a better dad for them too
Magni and Modi are too stupid tbh.
What if pokimane and Thanos swapped morals?
This is interesting
Pokimane becomes a better person.
I'm not surprised that Kratos pretty much runs through Goku's opponents. I'm surprised at how well Goku has done
What If Madara and MCU Thanos swapped fights?
@@justcallmebeetymadras is not that strong dude😂
@@yung_takeoff madra is strong enough to hold his own against the avengers maybe even beat them
@@lightmohamed5700 not thor
Or hulk. If the genjutsu work on either of em maybe. But I don’t think that’ll work. Cause it wouldn’t work on goku and he not smarter than Thor. And I dont think goku can fw comic book thor
Beerus touches Atreus and Kratos will have him questioning what even is a god in his universe.
Bro goku would slap Kratos up and down
What if Spawn and Ghost Rider swap enemies?
Goku is amazing at swimming. When h was a child in dragonball. He swam halfway aroun the world for the tournamen
I had this idea in my head and then you did it. Very excited for this one
What if Batman and Punisher swapped?
What if Jobbers and Goons and Chuck swapped ops?
What if Juggernaut and Mongul swapped fights?
Does Juggernaut have to pilot war world?
Wow, this is awesome. Love this channel man.
You are appreciated!
Straight 🔥🔥 you’ve been doing your thing family.
What if Punisher and Red Hood swapped battles
Loved it. Great vid
19:54 "In water, Chimps will drown"
What if GT Goku and Fleetway Sonic swapped battles?
What if Batman switched ops with Moon Knight?
The Gods will be spared and all of Goku’s enemies will be brutally murdered. Anyway I still wanna see Scarlet Witch and Raven swap fights or Man Thing and Swamp Thing swap fights.
Oooh this is a fire one. My only suggestion would be the boy of hell, Hellboy and the spawn of hell. Spawn. Fight swap
What if Master Chief and Captain America swapped fights?
That legit seems really cool except cap being in space without the whole suit thing
Nah master chief and Shepard from mass effect
Iron Man would’ve got his ass whooped in Civil War, Winter Soldier wouldve been on a T shirt, the stronger people Cap fought probably would give Chief a much harder time but I would honestly love to see that vid
Cap high diff
Comic cap or mcu cap?
What if Ryu and Liu Kang (base) swap enemies?
Liu kang mortal form solos. Firegoliukang solos the verse.
What if Dormammu and Trigon swapped fights?
Videos like this put you in the G.O.A.T. discussion
LOL
Cell Saga Goku one taps Kratos's entire verse.
I literally have been begging people who comment goofy stuff like this to debate me
All keep ducking💔 wish goku fans had more testosterone forreal. Shits so annoying.
@@BigSirSplash What is there to debate?
The only thing Kratos has on his side is silly statements and "Hurr Durr he has the power of hope so he can't be beat DURR" arguments.
Show me Kratos wiping out a solar system with nothing but his actual power and then we'll talk.
Hell show me Kratos blowing up a planet in one go, that's entree level for Dragonball at this point 😂
@@arcadius3257Bro only pays attention to flashy feats lol. Pop up books must have been a big thing for you as a kid, short attention span & all that
@@JustSomeGuy440 So you cant provide me what I asked for.
Got it 😂
@@arcadius3257 Yo it’s crazy how it was confirmed a clash between Thor & the World Serpent damaged the Yggdrasil, and Kratos is packing firepower to both match & surpass Thor in ap
Also crazy how Kratos has killed/beaten primordials, titans, and gods that outscale universes & multiversal constructs………Crazy
Kratos while holding back heavily shook an infinite realm just by boxing with a dragon in Midgard. Bet you’re one of those dudes that doesn’t pay attention to game lore huh
What if Trigon and Surtur swapped fights?
Don’t compare to trigon to surtur trigon is on a whole another level
@@oscarguerrero7660agreed. Trigon is on that comic shenanigans level
or Trigon and Dormammu
Oh my man dropped a nuclear bomb on us with zero warning sirens.
Would Mafuba not be included to seal those who can't die, could be a cop out but in terms of win con for a swapped battle run it is viable atleast.
Dunno if Mafuba is a good feat. Goku learned it, but isn’t proficient prolly due to it not interesting him to keep.
@@tchoythao1730proficient isn’t the problem, the guy learned the kamehameha just by watching it be done once. The guy is a natural prodigy amongst prodigies when it comes to fighting.
He would pull off the mafuba with very little to no problem. It’s not stoped by magic users or “gods”. He can use any sort of device to trap them be it jars just lying around or chests. Roshi’s mafuba grabbed Vegeta with a simole misdirection and the guy couldn’t get out on his own. With a power difference that big, Goku should be able to grab anyone of these.
The only problem would be he simply forgets he could do that, or he simply wants to try his own fight first. If he remembers the technique and knows its a do or die moment, yeah he could whip it out with nothing stopping him.
What if Naruto and Luffy swap fights. I think this is a good swap because of the authors irl rivalry
They got a rivalry?
@@mprince058yup
Ahh ninjas vs pirates. A question as old as time
Actually after watching thinking that he kinda just gets outscaled by the higher tiers like. Odin and the zues brothers. Would be most interested in his fight against aries.
I guess my mom didn't play basketball with my head as a baby today 🤷🏽♂️
This was a fantastic video to watch I would definitely love to see Kratos go against Broly and Beerus along with seeing Goku vs Heimdall and Baldur. For a battle swap either Deathstroke and Deadpool or Wonder Woman and Storm
Whats storm doing to the batman who laughs???????
Is there a video I can look up Kratos feats because I had no idea he could tank planet busting attacks?
Wait what is this a new genre of kratos downplayers😂😂😂
@@BigSirSplash I know nothing about Kratos which is why I was asking if there was a way I could look up his feats lol. I just know that Thanos would have a hard time with Frieza and I would argue at Frieza's weakest form too. I mean he was able to blow up planet Vegeta with his one finger like it was nothing and at the time he did I believe Vegeta's father tried to also stop the blast from touching down, but it was too powerful. Also, I think that even you said Buu can destroy dimensions or something? Does Kratos have any feats for that also? I am not saying he does not because I admit I know little about him.
Kratos is stronger than Thor who splintered the world tree that is infinite in size and holds infinite infinitely sized realms. Thor also hit jorm hard enough to send him back in time
This was a swap I never knew I needed
Although, I would say Broly is at a tier that Kratos just can't brute his way through
Dude u gotta keep this great content goin!!!!
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Also how would Kratos overcome Beerus's Hakai?
He wouldnt
Mm it kinda depends on how strong beerus hakai is. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that he can't necessarily erase kratos. But i am saying it really does depend on how strong his hakai is. Because from what we know if you are strong enough you can overcome the hakai or nullify it.
Besides kratos has a lot of sources that proves he's ridiculously strong and has hax resistances. Also resistance to fate too
If Kratos holds the Power Hope then by definition he exists as long as Hope exists. So even if erased he'll just come back
@@omega-xk4gj he does hold it still it was confirmed by the creator.
But his immortality is something that wasn't really explained. I love your explanation but its never been definitively proven why he can't die.
For me I'd just say it's two reasons. 1.the universe needs him
2.his will is to great for death to claim him. Those are just my two personal theories. yours is good too
By being stronger than the hack
Omni-Man and The Utopian
This actually makes me sad we don't know abiut many of the bad guys omniman fought before he killed the guardians of the globe. The only one comes to mind is that dragon guy
Ngl ima need powerscaing on this, cuz look no disrespect job, but when I watch these it feels like it’s u just guessing. I’m not in your discord so I don’t know if ur power scales are in there, but Thanatos one had me thinkin “can’t goku jus out scale him? And it negates?”. Otherwise love the vids
I wonder if the hakai or evil containment wave would work? One erases you, the other seals. I've only played a few of the games, so I'm not sure.
It sounds like im guessing?
I guess in 95% of my videos then. That sucks.
Ive made multiple scaling videos on goku and kratos before. This series isnt for deep dives into scaling. Go watch me guess on those videos if you want more info.
This is the exact outcome i expected
It's crazy how the only way for Kratos to have a high diff battle is to pit him against someone who can one shot Goku
Beerus hasn't been shown to be able to one shot Goku
@@dannybradley8391his first fight was literally one shotting goku
@@yung_takeoff using your logic let's use kid Goku from DB
@@dannybradley8391 ok. Let’s use him
@@yung_takeoff conclusion: dragon fist, low diff
Very interesting matchups who i think a very cool especially if we take these guy's at their peak, i agree with a majority of them although i kind of disagree with Hades and a little bit with Odin. Hades has crazy soul hax but we've seen Goku deal with stuff like hakai who can delete Zamasu and it's even implied if he didn't have the time ring the Hakai would've fucked him over and it's also stated to work on Arale who legit survived plot erasure (i am not bullshiting you, i'll link the scan when i find it back) so i think he could survive Hades' haxes and when he realizes what he's capable off he'd become serious and would go for the kill which we've seen him do with Cell, Frieza and Moro if i'm not wrong. For Odin he does have OP AF Magic, the thing is that we don't really see him using it in his fight with Kratos and Atreus and he rather just uses blast and elemental attacks, but tbh outside of that i think the rest is fair
How does goku kill whats already dead? We also have never seen goku actively fight for his soul
Odin has poison magic etc. This is 100% effective vs goku. Lol.
@@BigSirSplash I mean we've seen Hakai worked on ghost mf's who are already dead so technically you could argue he could take him down that way also we've seen Goku resist Hakai which destroys the soul so technically he's resisted soul hax 🤷🏾♂️ although it's not the same soul hax Hades uses, i don't really know how potent poison magic is so i'll agree with you on that
@@wukongisas9564 yeah, I can kinda see the argument for hakai maybe(not fully sold) I am unsure if Goku can tug a war his soul is all. Lol
@@BigSirSplash Honestly that's fair, i can see why you're not sold.
Edit: i fucking hate youtube's stupid ass system that deletes my motherfucking links
@@BigSirSplashyeah also to note in dragon ball death is more a state of being that your just dead and can't do anything bro was dead and was aloud to have a physical body so he can keep getting stronger. Stronger and it's also stated that Saiyans in general have hyper evolution so they would be in the same boat the the hard to kill lizard and doomsday so if it doesn't immediately kill Saiyans the hyper evolution will kick and make them more resistant until they could effortlessly tough it out
Dropped a banger outta nowhere my guy
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What Gojo and Kakashi swaped fights?
What if Gojo and Saitama swap fights. Can they still hold the title as strongest?
Super Broly swaps with Incredible Hulk
Hulks rogues _are_ pretty fun. Xemnu and leader might get a W out of sheer telepathy hacks. I wonder if onslaught would count since he's more of a one shot enemy
You must hate Broly
Berus is a tough one I don't think we've seen him at full even in the Manga he knows ultra instinct.
Kratos is him and Goku did better than I thought tbh
I also hate the fact i have these crazy ideas for fights but i cant manage to put anything together, i needa figure out how to animate.
Wukong vs Ares is the real discussion, taking into account what they did in the mythos and that concepts, abstracts etc are just words Wukong stomps.
Fire idea 🔥
I JUST played and finished Ragnorak for the first time last weekend. 💀 dope 🤟🏽
Can you do Captain Levi vs Batman? Levi is slept on, he has a lot of high level superhuman feats!
Batman has far higher feats
Loving this swap fight concept!
What if Yusuke and inuyasha swapped
🔥🔥 fire ass vid gang
How about what if Spawn and Ghost Rider swapped fights?
Yes , More Kratos and Dream of the Endless pls.
Great video but I wish you didnt jump around with who Kratos was fighting, it would have been more interesting if he linearly ran through the fights but maybe thats just my opinion.
Great video! Please do Deadpool and Deathstroke swap battle.
I know power is debatable as Kratos' strength seems to vary. I think it's obvious dragonball characters would win just because of how fast they are. Everyone from Raditz on is faster than the speed of light. I don't see how Kratos could land a hit.
I seriously hope that this is a Joke.
In case it isn't. Kratos already scales above the Light of Helios which could Light up the Infinite Hell of Hades as well as to Hermes who could traverse said Infinite Hell to deliver Souls
On top of the Primordials being entities that had a whole War before Time existed as a Concept
@@omega-xk4gj That was an exaggeration. It's disproven in 2 games.
1. In Chains of Olympus, Persephone ordered Helio's abduction and brought him to Hades. Atlas intercepted Persephone and kidnapped Helios for himself because he needed his light to destroy the Pillar of the World (located in Hades' hell).
2. In God of War 3, Helios' strongest light attack was used against Kratos. It was beaten by Kratos putting his hand out to create a shadow for his eyes. Kratos didn't even get a sunburn.
Kratos' speed does not scale up to Hermes. Kratos killed Hermes in GOW3 by destroying a statue Hermes was standing on resulting in an injured leg. Hermes confirms he's moving slower with the phrase, "I'm still quick enough for you." Hermes cannot move fast enough to time travel. Goku did twice. Once as blue kaioken against Hit (in the anime it's time travel, in the manga it's nullifying Hit's technique through sheer power) and another time as blue Gogeta against Broly.
The primordials are canonically weaker than the Titans who aren't strong enough to jump up a mountain with their own mountain's worth of weight. Raditz can do that no problem. When they fought doesn't seem relevant.
@@fdd4957 Oh you're one of those guys. Alright bro feel free to keep your opinions and have a nice day.
@@omega-xk4gj Bruh. If you're right then refute my claims. Killing Hermes doesn't make Kratos faster than Hermes. Killing Helios doesn't mean Kratos can output power equal to Helios. The only impressive feat (by DragonBall standards) from the Helios fight is that Kratos could tank a sun level attack without injuries.
@@fdd4957 Usually for a debate of this nature there needs to be a base of understanding. We as of now lack that. You are putting Kratos at Mountain to Star level and below Light speed. That's a Big gap in interpretation. Something that will take a lot of back and forth to reach a common ground.
Now, you may have the time and resolve to do it but I just don't have that level of patience or commitment to GoW to make that argument. Hence I told you to keep to your opinions. Thank you, and have a nice day
Can we get an Iron Man fully prepped vs Dragon Ball?
What if Broly and Hulk swapped
Broly would fucking die lol
This made me wonder how Hit would fair against Heimdall from Ragnarok, please do this, even if in passing
Heim would know what hits intentions are and just avoid the attacks
I remember the he man scaling video try thundercats next if you can
good vids i really like the kratos content our boy been getting disrespected lately. i would love to see dante and kratos swap fights i think that would be pretty interesting
Dante solos the verse lmao
@@mel-el5862 definitely doesn’t solo the verse
Fat buu and kratos would be homies
I think it would be close in a battle, both have pretty relative scxaling and can be wanked to extreme measures. For the nex swap i would say Sonic and Mario with their strong arguments
Very interesting concept
Wait what is brolys fictional transcendence feat?
Idk how well it’d go but how about Dante and Doomguy swap?
Doomgay gets no diffed
doesn't kratos scale far beyond the hole tournament of power and maybe even the hole db universe?
Yes way above lol
@@Mr.MacMannot really
Do what if Wonder woman and kratos swapped? Then after that who would win between these two.
Son Goku ain't dumb. He's a Fighting Genius.
greeks were poets and poetry uses symbolism. that's why kratos so strong
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@DrGoons naruto and luffy swapping fights might be cool.
Or another cool one could be ghost rider and spawn swap
fights.
So looking forwards the solo Star Wars content sooo much underrated lore ik you’ll already do it justice
To be honest, there are not a lot of people in fiction that can give kratos the L
Doctor Manhattan Captain Atom the beyonder Doomsday
@@The-Endo-SymArmorid actually argue against the doomsday however, depends who we use its only fair lol basic forms of doomsday is sorta a wash in kratos favor, hell doomsday and other such upper echeolons would require kratos's weird feats as well and thats just a wash again in kratos's favor. Normal kratos and the hell doomsday i feel it would be a titanic clash. But thats my opinion could be swayed really depends on how its approached.
Changed my opinion, I forget how big the DC cosmology actually is, even tho I hate it yeah it does happen to be an L for my man Kratos. Sure hope Santa Monica give him a bump or something lol
@@demonichunter7925 somebody on a facebook debate group thought Kratos could beat a composite Thor lol
@@The-Endo-SymArmor that's not a fair fight, tho I don't see that being the case hopefully in the coming decade or two. Tho what is the highest you can get with GoW without the fiction breaking stuff or extras kratos himself has done, like the world is like a universe that supposedly holds even more universes in set locations (if that makes sense) how high does it go and how high could they get with everything they have explained up to now?
Sort of off topic, but Ultra Ego Vegeta vs Baldur would be a fantastic match up. Vegeta would win.
On topic, I don't think Goku beats Odin. He is far smarter, craftier, and has a bunch of hax. If all else fails he could manipulate him.
Bro hakai or Solar Flair to blind him and Mafuba if he has a container
What if Dante and Doom Slayer swap enemies?
Awesome video
Apocalypse & Mongul, Spawn & Ghost Rider, Thor & Orion, Asura & Kratos, Mangog & Doomsday, Hulk & Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor & Iron Man, etc
(some of these might be shit, just spitballing)
God-breaker carnage video pls 🙏
Kratos turn to stun so he can fight buu as candy or go back to kratos
and goku using the infamous 2 hand kamehameha at the bottom of a lake
What if Madara and MCU Thanos switched fights?
Goku would win every single one of them, and Kratos would lose every single one of them.
Yo I can hear you sucking the salt from Goku’s sack through my phone
You actually understand dbs cosmology
MUI Goku vs ultra Ego/ post yardari vegeta battle swap
Using Xeno Goku’s villains is odd to me, because we know that Xeno and Capsule Corp Goku scale waaay higher than Goku from the manga and even the anime
Which one?
Golden Meta Cooler. My only problem with this is that when you bring in someone like him, it’s hard to know whether or not you are scaling all of his villains to Xeno/CC or just the peak of the anime. If it’s just the anime, then the other villains make sense, but if we’re talking about Xeno/CC, then those villains are in a completely different tier than what we’ve seen in the manga and anime.
@@MrSSJ3VEGITO oh nah i wasnt scaling all of them to xeno or anything lol. I had meant just meta cooler and realized after(forgot to cut out although i was talking about regular MC)
@@BigSirSplash ok, if that’s the case then great video man👍🏾
Darth Vader swap with Dr Doom.
Where'd you have them at peak in this subject? 4 or 5D? Just curious
What if Hellboy and Doom Slayer swapped fights?
I need to know how high a RAGE FILLED Wanked to the Tits Kratos with the power of Hope scails. 😅
Asura and Goku switch places?
Dope swap
I kinda don't agree with your assessment of Thor vs Goku mostly because I don't think we ever see Thor at his best from what we learn in God of War it seems Thor has kinda mentally nerfed himself
Goku will whoop thors ass on the fact thor fights pretty dumb. Pure rage and not very good with the hands in comparison to goku. In instinct form goku is breaking thors jaw pretty quickly.
@@mel-el5862 are you taking about Thor comics or Thor gow ?
@@mel-el5862 What Thor are you referring to
@@ugospotty678 gow thor.
Marvel thor bodies both verses
Wouldn't Hit win against Kratos with his one shot Heart Piercing tecnique that used on Goku? After all the only reason he did not die from that is pure luck. Especially if this is a solo fight meaning no Revival crystals from allies for Kratos.
While I personally am a little skeptical in the stats comparison, the attack in itself won’t kill Kratos. He’s already been stabbed in vital areas and has a regen heal. It’ll hurt like hell and is probably useful, but don’t think it alone can kill Kratos.
@@tchoythao1730kratos was knocked out by thor and could have been killed because he held back. Hit has a chance in a vital area. To regen kratos has to concentrate. Faye could have killed him with her sword as it shows his health in danger zone when stabbed in the chest. Ragnarok kratos flaw is holding back too much. Odin could have killed him twice as well but instead chose to monologue.