CHEAP dumper that HATES starting. Lets use it and improve it!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ม.ค. 2025
- A Winget dumper with Petter PH2 engine that was a cheap purchase because it was hard to start and had sat around for a while. Bought it to use at home on some projects and to save hire costs and many wheel barrow trips! So here's some footage of me trying to start it, use it and improve it somewhat. Also using it for it's intended purpose as the last big dumper we didn't get to see actually doing anything.
#willitstart #petter #diesel #dumper #rusty #machinery #engine
The ph2 is a legendary engine .The weak points are the Bryce injectors which are prone to sticking if left to stand for any length of time,They are cheap to get serviced,Also high hour engines lose compression,people used to just tip a bit of oil down the intake manifold to start them .The valve clearance needs to be checked and its so easy to do,this will help starting and the power output of the engine.Truely legendary engine.
You forgot that it sounded great too, like a proper old truck diesel engine. Good info there though, thanks!
@@jacksgarageworkshop The golden rule with the ph1 and ph2 is always check the oil before starting them as when the injectors go they leak diesel straight into the sump .This then destroys the engine as its not being lubricated properly.Other than that they run forever on very little fuel.
@@jacksgarageworkshop I like the sound as they come off idle then get caught by the tickover setting as it catches up
Hi Jack, I was a road contractor 45 years ago and had three or more of these dumpers-Great job mate
45 years ago! She's done well for her age then really, solid bit of kit.
This was an interesting watch for me? I've got a 1970's ex-military aldrive 5000 with the same engine, this too is a pig to start! Now i have the valve clearances i'll be tinkering with the valves an decompression settings.
All the best.
Dave
Thanks for watching! Some basic work made this run SO much better I was pretty surprised
Got one of these, never knew who made it till now. Prob a bit older as it doesn't have the hinged 'lid' over the engine, just bolted at both ends and a heavy bastard, doesn't encourage valve adjustment !! It's always been a pig to start, despite a rebuilt engine, injectors and inj pumps. Difficult to get enough speed on the handle and maybe the flywheel just doesn't have enough weight? Got several similarly sized hand crank diesels which are easy to start, but the PH engine is famous for being difficult. I opted for the skip dived primary school chair welded onto the sprung base as a seat... :o)
Nice to hear from someone else who had one! This one did some good work for us. Does your cover pivot if you loosen the rear bolts and remove the front ones and the rear bolts become a pivot perhaps? The improvement after valve adjustment on this was amazing, worth the effort. Also easy start is cheap enough….don’t hurt your shoulders for the sake of it.
Nope, can't pivot it, need to lift the whole seat and engine cover straight up to remove it. Think I'll add the hinge setup at some point, looks simple... :o)@@jacksgarageworkshop
Jack, at 43:00, I have a set of Hazet offset spanners like you use, but recently picked up several USA made offset as well. I got both sets at scrap yards not far from me, here in the States. The Hazet are metric, while the others are imperial sizes. Not everyone has this privilege.
It looks as though you've gotten a nice dumper for a decent price. I wish you well in your endeavors.
Harry are a good brand, keep hold of those! This thing was all imperial sizes and I have a huge number of imperial spanners but not any full sets I don’t think, I mostly work on metric stuff anyway, it’s a real ‘rummage in the imperial drawer’ though when I need one. Thanks for watching!
Hello from Canada - a bit of maintenance and some TLC brings it back a long way . Funny how maintenance seems to be at or near the bottom of the list
Hi! Yes strange people ignore maintenance and then have downtime on a machine because of it or just make their lives harder.
Jack I use an aluminum soda or beer can as a shim for wallowed out holes. Nice repairs
That’s a nice idea, just wrapped around the bolt shaft to take out the play?
A tip on the o-ring that is to big is cut it like you did and then superglue the ends together.
Nice tip, I’d worry about it being brittle when compressed?
@@jacksgarageworkshop that is what they use in o-ring splicing kits.
When cutting down a rubber o-ring, join it back together with superglue.
I should try that, thought the superglue would be too brittle?
Hi jack, great video, what did you pay for it and after all the work what did you sell it for
Hi Alan, saw your other comment too - used one 45 years ago! Wow. I got this cheap, with transport cost maybe £650, sold for a shade over £1000 I think. So a little profit for my time and also got the use of it while I owned it.
Super video and info. Thanks!
I've just picked up a Winget 2T 4WD with the same engine. Also a pig to start so bump-start down a slope is my only option at the moment, so will be following your improvements! Can I ask where you got the parts and the manual from please? Many thanks. 🙂
The parts like the filters were either eBay or L&S engineers. I just searched for the engine code and then had to work out which types of each filter it had (there were options). The manual I found online for free by searching and ignoring all the sites that try and make you pay for a pdf.
there a good dumper but a bit clumsy to use up against a twaites
Clumsy is the word, but it was fine for a home project, and to be fair this was something like 45 years old.
not priming levers there stop levers
масло хорошее залил!!!!! техника это не заводского производства ???? или это ретро думпер ???
привет! кузов такого старого Думпера сегодня актуален в мире!
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