Try this AeroPress recipe for bigger batches
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ม.ค. 2023
- Can you really make big batches with the Aeropress? Yes, definitely!
I have shared this recipe previously but wanted to revisit it once more to create a better video explaining it in detail.
RECIPE
- 25-27 g coffee (use a higher dose, if you don't have a premium grinder)
- 400 ml water (Divided in two parts, so 2x200 ml)
- 95 C
❶ Bloom 75 ml water, swirl, and bloom for 20 seconds
❷ Then add 125 ml's for a total of 200 ml's
❸ Use the technique plunge/twist technique until the brew cylinder is empty
❹ Add 200 ml again.
❺ Wait until 2:30 seconds and plunge slowly
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ADDENDUM: Since AeroPress has a very low "Liquid Retained Ratio" it can be tricky to just follow your regular brew ratio for this technique. So if you're usually brewing pour over at a 1;16 ratio, then you should use something closer to a 1;15 ratio with this technique to get a similar EY, because the batch will be bigger.
I still prefer bypassing because it's harder to fail. Just brew as strong as possible and dilute to taste. It always works
Just made a brew using this and am super impressed by the results. During longer periods of travel Im generally excited to get home and back to pour over. The aeropress provides rich flavorful cups but are also less nuanced. This recipe provides a nice body but a cup with more nuance. It had a present, pleasant acidity a mild sweetness and clarity. I think this is now my recipe for travel since Im always making coffee for two. No need for two brews in the morning and can save time!
Great to hear! Replies like that are why I make coffee videos 🙏
@@coffeechronicler btw used a 21 on c40 and about 70ppm water (half packet of 3rd wave water).
@@Btrl8thnNvr That sounds about right. I would guess 6 on K Max to be somewhere around 20-22 clicks.
It works really well! Thanks ☕
I tried your technique from your first video, its my go to recipe to make 2 cups which I often do. Have had a lot of good feedback from the coffee this makes! Keep up the good work!
This is awesome. I just got an Aeropress and have been looking for away to make larger batches of coffee. Definitely going to try this method out when I make coffee for the family.
thank you for sharing this method!
Great video. I always use the aeropress when im at my parents and if i want to serve them some tasty coffee i need to do 2 brews. I will absolutely try this recipe soon :)
Interesting, thank you I shall try this.
Brilliant recipe, I’ll roll with this whenever I’m doing2 cups. I tried this recipe for a 300ml brew the other day and I gotta say it works excellent there as well.
Thanks. Impressed, makes sense and now I get large cup of brewed coffee at the strength I enjoy.
Just like Theo said super impressed ! Ive been trying to find a great "large batch" recipe and this is it ! Great full bodied taste and I feel like I extracted every bit of the flavors from the beans with no bitterness. I hope this recipe catches fire !
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing the new technique to optimize a single dose for many. Never thought of retracting the piston and reloading! Way quicker than multiple Aeropressing for a group. We have 4 Aeropresses and it gets cumbersome with re-measuring doses and using both Fellows Prismo and Joepresso for concentrates to dilute.
Yours was the only 2-cup recipe using the Aeropress Go that I was able to search at youtube a year ago. Haven't needed to search for another recipe ever since haha 👌
Good to hear, Jay!
So glad you made this again!! Love this technique
Thanks Sharang for all the support. Had a great time in India thanks to you 🙏
@@coffeechronicler Glad you had a good time here man! Hoping to catch you the next time you’re here 🙌🏾
interesting! I like what you're doing to get a more fully extracted brew, you're not wasting the coffee. I do something similar, but simpler. I heat measured water to a boil in a saucepan on the stove, take it off the heat, add the measured and ground coffee, put the lid on the pan, let it steep whatever amount of time you think gives you the best tasting brew (I do 5 minutes, but I don't think I have a sensitive enough palate to tell the difference between a 3 minute steep versus a 5 minute). Then pour the water and grounds into the aeropress and plunge. works great for small amounts, and for larger amounts that won't fit into the aeropress, just do 2 pours and plunges.
Just happened upon this -- must try it myself, but this strikes me as genius.
Thanks! Interesting.
WOW! At the moment i try out brew methods that combine immersion and percolation i.e. some Hario switch recipes and now this one for the aeropress.
I had problems with filter clogging using the switch, either it tastes weak or it cloggs (using a 1z x-pro, a medium filter roast, washed, 95°C Water and standard Hario Filters).
Just tried the recipe and it tastes great, much sweater and with nice acidity than what I got from the switch. But maybe I do something wrong, just starting out with pour over (normally I drink espresso) and really start to enjoy it. Thanks!
Makes me want to try, very well done. Max's the bean
Great technique! Definitely gonna give it a shot; when travelling I usually bring 2 Aeropresses (or just make a cup twice, but that means the first cup isn't quite as warm anymore for the other person), this will hopefully be a great alternative.
Yes, will be nice to save a bit of luggage space!
Yesterday, I did a similar technique for brewing 800mL without knowing your technique.. It looks like I did something quite similar 😄
But I pressed the plunger between water addings, and it made a solid puck. Possibly because of this, I got a slightly watery brew. It was good enough to drink, though.
Now, I tried your technique with a 2 cup brew. It tastes much better 😍 although I forgot the blooming, and possibly lost some extraction there. It only tastes very slightly light. Could be better if I hadn't forgotten blooming.
Dismissing the bypass method is missing an important aspect of coffee extraction. That is the fact that coffee extraction is a form of fractionation and the components that tend to fractionate “later” (second flush of water) are generally less desirable (bitter). So I see the loss of these components as being a desirable outcome of using the bypass method.
Depends on the roast level. Lighter roasts generally need a higher EY to taste sweet. Adler's approach works well for dark roasts.
@@coffeechronicler Agree, it's all to do with roast level 👍
nice one, very interesting! I will also try at 6 on the K-Max!
Great to hear, Stefano! You'll have to make do with AeroPress and 9b a bit longer ;)
@@coffeechronicler 🤣 Don’t forget the Pico 🤣
Interesting.. will try 🙂
(also the Aeropress-XL is out)
Hi there, I just give it a try to compare with my standard bypass method that I use everyday. I immediately noticed the strength enhancement but I also have the feeling I lost some nuances such a fruit flavors. Maybe it is because I used a medium roast where the initial fruit flavors were already quite muted (both method were used with same grinder settings and similar total extraction time of 2:00-2:30). I wonder if it would be less noticeable by using a nice fruity Ethiopia light roast for example. Need to try this out, I am pretty sure the roast level will highly impact the difference between bypass method and your proposed method, would love to here your piece ^^, maybe for your next video :)
Anyway cool experience and obviously funny to see that with same beans, grind settings, water... you can get a quite different but still delicious cup of coffee. I find more interest in my daily coffee process and recipes variations that in my daily work ^^, guess I am not alone in that case.
Cheers
Can you please do more AP videos, especially for the medium roast
Works nice! Thanks :) Though, I would most likely do a V60 for larger brews. Can do a very nice "500g water in" V60 in about the same time as this "supersized" Aeropress. But this Aeropress recipe could come in handy when not having anything than an Aeropress at hand :)
I need you to upload this on AEROMATIC APP!!!!
I agree! I said this on my IG post and I am glad I’m not alone.
I agree also
Hi, thank you for this new input! For me, a completely unexpected and new approach - I definitely will test it on the weekend. What is your intention of this plunger pulling out method - why not a compareable slow press? Thx for your feedback and your videos in general!!
The reason to the pull technique is that you don't disturb the filter this way. If you insert the plunger more and retract it, it can very easily cause the paper filter to get dislodged.
@The Coffee Chronicler thank you - I did not think about this! I definitely have to taste this side by side ;-)
I've recently picked up the 1zpresso j-max. What would the setting be to represent 6 on the k-max. Thanks so much as I can't wait to give this 1 a try as 400ml is more what I need for my first coffee!
Just grabbed the k-max chart and compared about 210 so I'll start there!
Hello from Kazakhstan :) this is interested me. I will try it. I think 11 click of the Timemore C3 it's right for me.)) Thank you and Happy new year! 👋🏻
Thanks, good luck with it! Let me know how it goes :)
@@coffeechronicler I have one question. Is the time 2¦30 total or I shall to reset the stopwatch after the first part? :) thank you.
@@MR_AUA Last press is at 2.30, so the total brew time will be around 3.00-3.15 depending on how hard you plunge
@@coffeechronicler I did. The taste is associated with a drip coffee maker. :)
@@MR_AUA Drip coffee maker doesn't sound that appealing :) Grind a bit coarser and adjust the ratio down to 1:15. That should fix it.
I was thinking of using this more like a pourover instead.
Do you know when the aeropress xl comes out? And will they make a flow control filter cap for it? 🤔 would be nice to do a 500ml batch and "Gagne" it
Hey Asser, what would be the grind size range for this in a Comandante? is it around 18-20?
What is the link for the funnel you where using?
Loved the new presentation, and ofc the technique! Just one question, what grind size with c40?
Thanks Ishak. My guess is that it's around 20-22 clicks.
@@coffeechronicler Thanks! will definitely try it.
Hey, what's the reasoning behind two regular filters instead of one? Thanks for the recipe!
Cleaner taste. I use it for all Aeropress recipes, unless I have an Aesir filter which does the same thing, just even better
Tried and approved!
Hi good day. What about my AP gets clogged during the second press? Any suggestions? Thank you. Appreciate it.
Regarding the first 200 ml after the 15-20 second bloom period, why not extract for additional 60-90 seconds prior to plunging?
I tried this today and it's not quite right for me. I did everything the same as you including using my K-Max grinder at 6. The one difference is that I had to use two standard Aeropress filters. But, it came out a little astringent for me. One thing is that it looks like there is more resistance for you than there is for me. Not sure if your K-Max is calibrated differently so that your grind is finer (mine is calibrated so that zero is at the point where you can't turn it anymore) or if the Aesir filters are less porous than two stock filters. Any thoughts?
Brilliant! This is a game changer for when I go camping with my wife. Do you not let the first cup steep for 2:30, or does plunging an inch at a time take care of this, or was it just not in the video edit? Thank you so much for this!
Thanks, great to hear! I let the first cup steep a lot shorter, I find the shorter steep adds more vibrancy to the cup, similar to how a pour over gets extracted in layers
Very interesting, thank you!@@coffeechronicler
What is the plastic carafe you are using? I can only find glass ones like that and would like something a bit safer
Cafec Tritan Coffee Server
Can you recommend a zp6 grind setting ?
3.5-4 is probably a good place to start!
Hi. Great video!
Grind setting 6 on KMax means 6 clicks?
Thank you.
6 on the dial indicator, not clicks...
@@coffeechronicler Thank you! That is much coarser than what I’m usually grind. I’ll try it. :)
thank you Sir. I was curious about the water, now that you mention it. I was reading these days your take on water. I was curios what ppm was this water, and if you can just mix waters to achive desired TDS. for example I have 35 ppm water, so if i mix with 140 ppm water, the results will be (35+140)/2?
Yes, you can mix, and the result should be quite logical, as in your equation. The water I used for this particular brew was 40 tds ppm.
Have you tested the taste difference between doing all those pull-outs of the plunger vs. not doing it (in the first round of water)? Why do you do it? Are you trying to increase the amount of pressure by doing that? Thanks!
The only reason I'm doing it this way is to avoid dislodging the paper filter. If you push too far and pull back, the vacuum will cause problems.
@@coffeechronicler Ah, thanks!
Are you reheating your second water dose before use?
Not required, but it's an option. There's only a bit more than a minute between the first and second pour, so you won't have a significant heat loss.
I just tried with my dark roast at 205 degrees with 25 grams of coffee. Not good. I’ll try another batch with a finer grind.
So with the bloom the pours are 50g, 150g, 200g? Or are the second and third pours the same, ie half each of the remaining water after the bloom?
Yes, that would be a good way to put it.
What’s the brand of the plastic carafe?
Cafec
@@coffeechronicler ☕thanks!
Kind of off topic but noticed you used a K-Max for grinding; is the Izpresso K-Max better for Aeropress than Izpresso J-Max?
Both are great for it, just a bit different.
Appreciate the swift response, still learning the nuances of coffee tasting but I do tend to prefer a thicker medium to dark roast flavor profile opposed to light fruity/acidic. Which grinder would you say may be better suited for my case?
@@johnvaldez4044 That's more J Max' strength
Which carafe are you using, I tried finding one on Amazon but they are either metal or glass? I like the idea of plastic so no worry of shattering.
It's from Cafec, they make a few different of tritan
@@coffeechronicler Thanks! Interestingly, in America, the only tritan coffee carafes available on Amazon are the aeropress carafe or a Japanese brand that would take 3 weeks to deliver.
How long should I wait before plunging the second round?
Wait until 2m30s (so that's a steeping time of around 1m15s)
I tried it, but at last of pulling plunger out, the coffee bed sucked and was in the middle of the tube, and the paper filter damaged how can fix this
Don't plunge down more than 4 centimeters, and always let the built-up pressure push the plunger out, instead of pulling with your hand.
What do you think about using melodrip with this recipe? I believe using the plunger that way and adding water 2 times (plus a bloom) agitates maybe too much. Melodrip can also create a bed flatter.
Secondly, what do you think about using only the end part of the plunger? Ray murakawa has this kind of video in his instagram. He just uses the silicone part and presses with his fingers. To take it out for adding water the second time, he just presses the side of it and it comes out easily. Your method worries me about damaging the paper filter and letting go of some coffee particles into the cup.
I can understand where you're coming from, but usually, the coffee comes out very balanced with this level of agitation. I know the technique, you're referring to but think this method is more practical.
I’ve used this for som time now, but I think you should stir after adding the second portion of water, since the grounds have now become a puck. I think this a) makes for a bette ectraction, and b) makes the 2nd plunging easier. Thoughts on that? And btw: what Comandante setting does your setting equivalate to? I hav started grinding pretty fine for all AP recipes, around 10 …
You can agitate the slurry quite well just with the kettle stream (of course depending on spout and technique) but will give this a try.
How is that big batch? 400ml is one cup for me, haha. I will try this! Thanks.
I still feel the bypass technique is way less hassle. So you don't mix/agitate your dose after adding the water ?
I don't add any agitation besides the initial bloom/swirl and the kettle stream. Also, keep in mind that plunging is an extraction booster in itself. Barista Hustle did a study on this.
@@coffeechronicler Thanks !
A year or two out when it is on the market? that part is confusing
So I must have done something wrong, for it came out incredibly weak tasting. I followed the recipe, so my guess it was the grind size being too coarse? 🤷♂️ I’m using the Lido 3 E-T grinder and will have to play around with it
Probably grind size. It should be around the absolute finest you'd use for pour over. Lack of agitation could be another one. So remember the bloom and swirl step in the beginning, and pour fast in each step, so you agitate the grounds further.
I don't seem to get good results with this. I kept all the other variables constant (1:15 ratio, same grinder and coarseness, two filters, same water temperature and of course coffee from the same bag of beans) and did a regular 13g coffee + 200g water brew with my Aeropress Go which was sweet and perhaps a bit weak but still very positive. Then did a 23g coffee + 350g water with this method and the coffee is noticeably more bitter and harsh! I would be interested in understanding what could be going on.
Why not just plunge nearly all the way on the first pass but avoid compacting the puck?
The reason for the pull technique is that you don't disturb the filter this way. If you insert the plunger too deep down and try retracting it, it can very easily cause a suction effect, and the paper filter will get dislodged and leak grounds into the brew.
@@coffeechronicler Oh, thanks for the explanation! I use a metal filter and that didn't occur to me.
Two questions:
1. Why such a short bloom, when other pour over methods usually go for 30-45 seconds?
2. What grind setting do you recommend starting with on the Q2?
1: This isn't a bloom to release c02, rather it's to avoid dry pockets
2: There are 3 different versions of Q2 now, so not sure :) But similar to the finest range of pour over settings.
@@coffeechronicler Oh, is the new heptagonal Q2 (Which is what I have) different from the old one? Or is it the pentagonal that has two versions?
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