didn't mention nets, tho (unless I missed it?). mentioned most other little things like living action potions.. I guess the nets are pretty visible in the video, though
She can be taunted during a countdown to the final core turn in while bubble is still on so she doesn't one shot an unlucky healer right at start of p3
You can use Thornling Seeds from DM to eat the spore bat poison. They last 1 min and are completely immune to nature damage. Have your entire raid bring them and then drop them in groups throughout phase 3. The spore bats will target them instead of players/pets. Helps your DPS uptime in that phase immensely.
Found the fight easier than I remembered for some reason I remember having to try and stack poison as close to others as possible as they did not despawn... Looked back at old videos and the first kill had so much poison on ground compared to when ours started despawning.
@@jakeguerin1481 if you kill the first sporebat it will reduce the amount of poison on the ground significantly by the time you kill her. For guilds with extremely high dps I would still ignore it. Or go farm thornling seeds from dire maul. If you set them down in phase 3 they will eat MCs and poison. (New tech)
@@Excentrix54 okay good to know. Also one more question if you don't mind. We've done one night of vash progression. Our best attempt was like 20% ish. Right now our biggest issue was Tanks picking up the elites phase 2. We ran 2 tanks and still had trouble. Some recommend we bring a 3rd but I don't see it necessary also don't think we can afford to lose a dps. Any tips for that? Or is it just better communication and quicker Tanks. We lost a healer almost every attempt sometimes 2 from elites
@@jakeguerin1481 you can have your holy pally with righteous fury on play towards the middle. Pay attention to timers and they can bait it to a tank. Not exactly sure of your strat but your healers shouldn't really be going past the inner circle much. Only time that would be necessary is if someone is going down to loot a tainted core. Ultimately your healers need to pay attention and run to a tank if they rip aggro when they spawn so a tank can grab it.
another good tip is if u have an elite at the start of p3 u can stack it with vashj and just have the melee and hunters cleave off vashj to bring it down
The one tip I got from this video that might help us secure the kill is 8:16 (not having Off tanks in the same group as the shammies dropping Grounding Totem. We get her to
For naga elites we are using a restoration druid without Blessing of Salvation standing in the middle of arena. Each time Naga spawns he just starts spamming heals on warlocks tapping making Naga run to the middle without any problems. Prot paladin is waiting near druid to taunt it off.
What if pallies taunt gets resisted are your other ot tanks quick enough to pick it up also you are prob already dead if it is resisted and now wrecking the other healers
hello i am level mage. do u batch flame of shock with fire bolt or rank 1 frst cube? should i have ice cube mode for raid or should i go deep arcane thank you. i am a mage
Hello, I'm not a magi but if you play walrock you can use bolt of shadow, very simple for new plaiers. Also you will get laid all the time playing walrock and your gf wil buy you a Lamborigini. Good luk friend and keep grynding!
Do you kill any Spore Bat's? I've seen the cleanest kills in logs so far killing 2 spore bat's (80k damage done to them) using Ele shaman, hunters and lock/sp dots.
We tried killing spore bats initially, but it just felt like we were delaying the phase for no reason, considering the early sporebats spawn so infrequently, and ramp up later, so there's no reason to keep the phase going.
@@jampanos take a look at a guild called SPICY on my server Noggenfogger. They don't move from their positions but they kill two spore bat's in an extremely clean kill. The best thing to do is use a focus macro on all your range DPS on a bat, and whenever the focus comes into range you click your macro again to do chain lightning, SWP, agony, immolate, arcane shot and so on. You definitely don't have to run around, just make sure you mark a skull and then an X for everyone's focus macro.
I highly advise you kill the first sporebat on progression. It will reduce the amount of poison on the ground by a shit ton. After overall raid dps gets higher from better gear you can start ignoring them
An elemental shaman can easily hold threat when it comes to strider kiting? Are you sure? Me and me guild mate (both elementals) tried it on wednesday we were loosing aggro pretty quick every time. 🤔
Your other ranged dps should be aware of their aggro - if they get close to either of the elemental shamans they should switch to dpsing the melee naga instead of ripping the strider off the elemental tanks. If I just straight pumped the strider I would pull aggro off the elemental shamans often.
keep using frost shock max rank on cd (slow + bonus aggro) and dont hesitate to actually cast lightning / chains on it if you got enough distance. Also, if your guild is using the tailoring nets to root them, use the time to pump dps / threat on the strider. If your dps are still overnuking, remind them to use their aggro reducing abilities.
Far and above the most detailed yet concise guide I have seen for this, or any other, p2 fight. Well done!
Amazing guide, haven't seen something as useful and succinct in a long time
Even mentioned not throwing core to strider kiter, my man, you're a pro. Keep up the good work!
didn't mention nets, tho (unless I missed it?). mentioned most other little things like living action potions.. I guess the nets are pretty visible in the video, though
She can be taunted during a countdown to the final core turn in while bubble is still on so she doesn't one shot an unlucky healer right at start of p3
You can use Thornling Seeds from DM to eat the spore bat poison. They last 1 min and are completely immune to nature damage. Have your entire raid bring them and then drop them in groups throughout phase 3. The spore bats will target them instead of players/pets. Helps your DPS uptime in that phase immensely.
Found the fight easier than I remembered for some reason I remember having to try and stack poison as close to others as possible as they did not despawn... Looked back at old videos and the first kill had so much poison on ground compared to when ours started despawning.
Also land mines, last one min and cant die, being targeted by poisons aswell
Is not baneable use those plants?
@@albertoborondo8535 why would it be bannable lol? They made them that way, you are not exploiting anything -.- no its not trust me.
jesus those things are OP
Very well done guide on her. I would recommend anyone doing progression to kill the first sporebat though.
Can I ask why? Just wondering the justification
@@jakeguerin1481 if you kill the first sporebat it will reduce the amount of poison on the ground significantly by the time you kill her. For guilds with extremely high dps I would still ignore it.
Or go farm thornling seeds from dire maul. If you set them down in phase 3 they will eat MCs and poison. (New tech)
@@Excentrix54 okay good to know. Also one more question if you don't mind. We've done one night of vash progression. Our best attempt was like 20% ish. Right now our biggest issue was Tanks picking up the elites phase 2. We ran 2 tanks and still had trouble. Some recommend we bring a 3rd but I don't see it necessary also don't think we can afford to lose a dps. Any tips for that? Or is it just better communication and quicker Tanks. We lost a healer almost every attempt sometimes 2 from elites
@@jakeguerin1481 you can have your holy pally with righteous fury on play towards the middle. Pay attention to timers and they can bait it to a tank. Not exactly sure of your strat but your healers shouldn't really be going past the inner circle much. Only time that would be necessary is if someone is going down to loot a tainted core. Ultimately your healers need to pay attention and run to a tank if they rip aggro when they spawn so a tank can grab it.
Holy fudge! Best guide ever and the icon flow drawings are top-notch!
I never have and probably never will fight Vashj but here I am, watching it for a second time!
another good tip is if u have an elite at the start of p3 u can stack it with vashj and just have the melee and hunters cleave off vashj to bring it down
Very good and comprehensive guide
0:00 Why does she get to spit on people?
Awesome details my man, top notch
Great video, are you planning on making one for Kael'thas?
The one tip I got from this video that might help us secure the kill is 8:16 (not having Off tanks in the same group as the shammies dropping Grounding Totem.
We get her to
Great video thanks
For naga elites we are using a restoration druid without Blessing of Salvation standing in the middle of arena. Each time Naga spawns he just starts spamming heals on warlocks tapping making Naga run to the middle without any problems. Prot paladin is waiting near druid to taunt it off.
Very clever
What if pallies taunt gets resisted are your other ot tanks quick enough to pick it up also you are prob already dead if it is resisted and now wrecking the other healers
@@jinchurikis Well since we have 3 tanks in raid anyway theres always someone for backup.
Very excellent content. Well done!
Very useful guide. Thnaks
Really good production. I don’t play classic at all. Nonetheless I found the video both entertaining and informative.
What add on are you using on the left to show people in groups?
When i did this back in classic tbc many years ago she spawned prisen spitting bat flying around on last phase
Nice work!
Hello Jampa! Do you guys kill all the sporebats, some of the sporebats or none at all?
what level are all those players?
What should be the average dps in your raid grp for lets say at least 3 and a half minutes in p3 for you to ignore the toxic spore bats?
I've seen some kills where they used netherweave nets to help root the striders as they are being kited, has someone tried this?
Works very good.
my guild does this and its best for ranged uptime.
How does this boss compare with C'Thun before the nerf?
Can use dog whistle too from sm.
Anyone knows the Weak Aura which the Feral Druid is using in the video?
hello i am level mage. do u batch flame of shock with fire bolt or rank 1 frst cube? should i have ice cube mode for raid or should i go deep arcane thank you. i am a mage
Hello, I'm not a magi but if you play walrock you can use bolt of shadow, very simple for new plaiers. Also you will get laid all the time playing walrock and your gf wil buy you a Lamborigini. Good luk friend and keep grynding!
Arcane
"ice cube mode" for sure!
Any chance you're working on one for KT?
very nice!
Do you kill any Spore Bat's? I've seen the cleanest kills in logs so far killing 2 spore bat's (80k damage done to them) using Ele shaman, hunters and lock/sp dots.
Would also like to know this! Heard it done both ways.
We tried killing spore bats initially, but it just felt like we were delaying the phase for no reason, considering the early sporebats spawn so infrequently, and ramp up later, so there's no reason to keep the phase going.
@@jampanos take a look at a guild called SPICY on my server Noggenfogger. They don't move from their positions but they kill two spore bat's in an extremely clean kill.
The best thing to do is use a focus macro on all your range DPS on a bat, and whenever the focus comes into range you click your macro again to do chain lightning, SWP, agony, immolate, arcane shot and so on. You definitely don't have to run around, just make sure you mark a skull and then an X for everyone's focus macro.
I highly advise you kill the first sporebat on progression. It will reduce the amount of poison on the ground by a shit ton. After overall raid dps gets higher from better gear you can start ignoring them
@@Excentrix54 We tried the sporebat strat our first week but it felt better when we ignored them.
Living Action Pot does not have the same cooldown with a Hastepot? Oder Healthpot? Thx
All pots share a cooldown. You forgo other pots in favor of living action
which retail dungeon is this music from again?
Freehold
An elemental shaman can easily hold threat when it comes to strider kiting? Are you sure? Me and me guild mate (both elementals) tried it on wednesday we were loosing aggro pretty quick every time. 🤔
Remove salv next time!
did you remove blessing of salvation from yourselves?
Of course we removed it 😁
Your other ranged dps should be aware of their aggro - if they get close to either of the elemental shamans they should switch to dpsing the melee naga instead of ripping the strider off the elemental tanks. If I just straight pumped the strider I would pull aggro off the elemental shamans often.
keep using frost shock max rank on cd (slow + bonus aggro) and dont hesitate to actually cast lightning / chains on it if you got enough distance. Also, if your guild is using the tailoring nets to root them, use the time to pump dps / threat on the strider. If your dps are still overnuking, remind them to use their aggro reducing abilities.
So the entangle ability doesn’t do anything to Druid MT? Or they gotta shift when entangled?
Druid tanks would power shift to remove the root.
Is the MC permanent or does it just last some time?
20 seconds
My guild is never going to kill vash. We csnt even kill KT. Sadge
Would vosh mind control snakes from snake trap?
no
only hunters can kill mobs in sky phase 3 ?
No, all range dps can snipe them down
Can the mind control people in Phase 3 be feared?
No, only Curse of Tongues. No cc works at all.
this is the topic of the nerf, the MC'd people will be vunrable to the various raid CCs in the nerf
Purge the buffs the mind controlled puts on the boss. Most painful ones are thorns, blessing of sacrifice and ofc the hots from a resto dudu.
love to spellsteal hots as a mage :P
@@Mrlonefighter Yup i do the same ;)
I think vashj multi-shots only if tank is outside melee range. Can anyone confirm?
no that is the single shot, 1 shot mechanic. she does multi shot no matter what
TBC was peak wow
How to actually actually defeat Lady Vashj -> Just go for it. She does nothing now and is a pushover
I’ve soloed her twice in retail a couple years ago, it was tough, really didn’t know what I was doing
Says only needs one tank; proceeds to offtank on more than one situation.
Can I recommend a pop filter in front of your microphone. Thanks
Tell support she's being sexist and they'll remove her from the game and give you the loot instantly!
🤡
@@Valvad0ss 💩
Can confirm; Vash is now a bowl of fruit during this week.
boss already down, so i downvoted the video.