so my friends pop is a mechanic. does it matter if the rear are installed upside down lol. he said he went based of how the oem looked. idk it still sits the same as yours but I was just wondering since the lettering are upside down. fronts are same as yours.
So question what tire size are you running with those springs I’m on 315 on rear and 275 front was trying to see clearance before I commit or should I run coilovers
@@rtjoe more than likely will go with the springs have you had any problems scraping going over bulbs or anything like that? Also go drop a follow on ig @392club 🤟🏼
I used a rubber head hammer, but you have to be VERY careful as it will snap and pop out at you you. I highly recommend putting something to apply pressure underneath the wheel assembly (example: jack) so that it doesn’t fall out or hit you. Check out the video!
@@rtjoe i did i had to unhook just about everything in the rear end to get it to line up only got both the front and back right done i still have to do the back left waiting for this weekend to do it but i did take it on a test drive and the front made alot of clunking noise when i hit bumps i think it may be the shock top nuts on the front not being fully tightened cause i couldnt get the shaft to stop spinning did you have a trick for that i saw you just used a impact on it mine wouldn’t
Yeah the rear is a bit more challenging because of the spacing. And I don’t have any sounds coming from the wheels. If the bolt is spinning, use another tool on the other end to hold it.
Looks great bro! Did you end up getting a wheel alignment after it was all said and done? I gotta get a couple tools but i will be installing mine today.
Thanks bro 🤝 I got a wheel alignment two months before deciding I want to drop the car...if I had made my mind up back then I would’ve waited until after but so far it’s been wearing evenly
That's what's up bro! Man, like I said I started putting mine on today and got stuck on the front wheel. That middle bolt won't tighten for me. It just keeps spinning. And nothing to hold it with on the other side. All the other bolts are snug but I can't snug that one. Suggestions?
You can either squeeze the rubber bushing just a little bit with a vice grip for it to catch or you can apply a little pressure to the bolt by lowering the jack a little (if you do the second method make sure to hand tighten the upper control arm bolt so it doesn’t fall back out)
It settled a little lower and I still have not scraped anything (I’m being careful about it). It’s a cool mod and it makes the stance of the car look aggressive. If you do lower your car, I suggest aligning after because of the drop. You can check out my Instagram story for an updated look @rtjoee
Great video man! I'm in Tampa if you ever cruise through again. Wondering if you have the torque specs for the rear bolts (all of them)? If not I'll keep looking, but figured I'd ask to save some time. Thanks!
@@cameronmartin428 Protip: TORQUE BOLTS/NUTS UNDER WEIGHT Front Torque Specs/Notes • Shock Absorber upper mounting nuts (under hood) - 13mm ○ Align them to original wear marks ○ Tighten to 20 ft/lbs • Upper ball joint mounting nut (use an Allen key in the middle to keep it from turning) - 2 Step - 18mm ○ Tighten to 35 ft/lbs ○ Then Tighten an additional 95 degrees • Stabilizer Link Upper Mounting Nut - 111 ft/lbs 21mm • Shock Absorber lower mounting bolt (bottom of strut) 18mm ○ Using the jack - raise as close as possible to normal ride height ○ Tighten to 128 ft/lbs Rear Torque Specs/Notes • Shock upper bolts 46 ft/lb 16mm (swivel extension is helpful) Shock lower bolt 96 ft/lb 15mm bolt with 18mm nut (use a wrench for the nut) If you drop the rear (while jack supported) to remove spring - 105 ft/lbs (18mm nut, 15mm bolt)
Awesome video!! Thanks for posting this. A question: Does the front cushion on the front struts need to be replaced? Does it have some kind of bearing or cushion that breaks or anything like that?
@@rtjoe after a week my rear is making some creaking sounds. Sounds like rubber to rubber. Did you have to lubricate the springs for the top and bottom hat
It should be tightened using only hand tools. It should not be as tight as lug nuts. If you want to go the extra mile, you can rent/buy a torque wrench and tighten to the manufacturer exact specifications
Yes it does rub when I have a full car. It doesn’t rub the whole time but whenever I do hit a bump it definitely rubs. I don’t normally have a full car so I don’t mind the occasional rubs. Hope this helps. If you have more questions, you can dm me on Instagram
From personal experience, so far I’ve had no problems and I’ve had these on my car since July of 2020. But if you plan on driving your car filled with passengers and have 315 tires in the rear like me then that can be something to consider.
It’s been over a year since the install and I must say they’ve settled a lot. In my opinion it’s lower than the manufacturer say it would. The ride quality is stiffer than the stock springs, so you’ll feel bumps more when driving. I wouldn’t recommend getting them if you normally drive your car with a full car of people.
Thanks bro and I did not get an alignment after lowering but I would suggest getting it. When I change my wheel setup I did an alignment which was about 2-3 months before I made up my mind to lower my car. So basically if I made up my mind back then I wouldve just waited until after I did everything. So far it’s been good tho
You can feel the difference in ride quality when comparing them to stock springs. It’s stiffer but the handling is way better than the stock springs. You’ll feel bumps more bcuz of the stiffness
I would recommend getting an alignment after dropping your car
Alignment on what? The springs or car
Car
Alignment and negative camber wear!!!!
What about if u already got alignment befo lowering
it's totally up to you to also get one after.
Bro this IS the most informative video ever. Can’t believe you only have a little over 100 subscribers. Keep this up bro you earned my following
I appreciate that bro 🤝
THANK YOU for actually showing where everything is, straightforward and no sped-up scenes that skip everything
I got you 🤙🏽
This was an incredibly helpful video! Keep it up! Car looks great.
Thanks really appreciate it 🤝
I’ll definitely use this video when I get lowering springs 💯
Damn Bro...this is by far the best how to video. Step by step...very informative...Great job and thank you for being so thorough..
Ayyy thanks bro 🤝 I try to be as detailed as possible bcuz that’s what I would want
Amazing work bro! The car looks amazing!Thanks for the video! Can’t wait to do this to my rt! 🔥🔥🔥
Ay bro thanks 🤙🏽 your rt is going to be looking like a beast 😈💪🏽
Now you need camber control arms front and rear also just for shits toe arms for the rear.
When u put the rear back was the spring low enough that the back bolt just lines up if you jack up the control arm ?
Looks good bro 🔥🔥 And good info 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Thanks bro I appreciate you checking me out 💯🤝
RT Joe no doubt bro
You is bold to compress spring pointing up like that 😮 but great job good video it helped me on my 2014 charger se blistien
Nice job on the video with all the details etc. Thanks!
so my friends pop is a mechanic. does it matter if the rear are installed upside down lol. he said he went based of how the oem looked. idk it still sits the same as yours but I was just wondering since the lettering are upside down. fronts are same as yours.
The lettering should be readable meaning upright. It shouldn’t be upside down.
When you take out the oem springs, the lowering springs should fit right in the rubber shoes for the spring
Great video I'm doing that to my charger this weekend cant wait
Great Video 💯💯 your car looks awesome 🔥🔥
ZeroGravity appreciate you bro 🤝
good explanation bro, changing mine next weekend 🙏🏽
Did your spring pop until they settled?
Pros and cons of have lowering springs for 2 years ?
thank for this video man, helped me out a lot!
Great video bro!
Thanks bro 🤝
Damn that’s amazing, thank you for the great video too! Your car looks great
Thank you! 💪🏽
Do I need to trim rear bump stop ?
How many inches did u drop it bro ?
i put these on my widebody and ride got very rough i went back to stock
Yes, lowering springs are stiffer
Would this work on a 14 charger v6
brother I would like to know if those springs work in a Dodge Durango 14 sxt 3.6?
No these are Charger specific springs in the video. There may be other versions for a Durango.
Been planning on getting these but a shop told me I would have to replace control arms and ball joints for it to sit properly ? Looks amazing tho bro
I didn’t have to replace any other parts for it to work. And preciate it bro
I don't understand why you removed both bolts on the lower control arm
You could've removed the one closer by the spindle and you're alignment would been closer to spec
So question what tire size are you running with those springs I’m on 315 on rear and 275 front was trying to see clearance before I commit or should I run coilovers
I’m running the same tires sizes: 275 in the front, 315 in the rear. Front Rim: 9.5 inches with +15 offset; Rear Rim: 10.5 inches with +25 offset.
@@rtjoe any rubbing or figment issues
No fitment issues, just rubbing when I hit potholes and bumps on the highways. Only happens when I have 4 or 5 people in my car.
did you change the shocks to? looking into lowering mine
no, just the springs
Thinking about getting these 🤔 can’t decide between these and coil overs
If you’re planning to spend for coil-overs, I would go with bags (my opinion, my preference)
@@rtjoe more than likely will go with the springs have you had any problems scraping going over bulbs or anything like that? Also go drop a follow on ig @392club 🤟🏼
No problems with speed bumps, haven’t scraped. Normally if I see a plane too high I just go sideways. I’ll check out the IG 🤙🏽
Hey bro what size tire you got on that bad boy?
F: 275/40/20 R: 315/35/20
Any tips on getting the upper arm to come loose ?
I used a rubber head hammer, but you have to be VERY careful as it will snap and pop out at you you. I highly recommend putting something to apply pressure underneath the wheel assembly (example: jack) so that it doesn’t fall out or hit you. Check out the video!
I have a question bro, just install the springs and the car will automatically go down
After some time, it will settle and drop more
Do you read forums or sum to know all the lil nuisances you went thru, or you got prior mechanic experience??
Awesome video bro love it quick question so u don't need to preload the spring?
Nah I didn’t preload. Pretty much straight from the box to my car
Hey bro if you remember. What were the sizes of the bolts you had to take off
I don’t remember which one was which but I used 18, 20, and 22 mm sockets. I mentioned the sizes in the video specific to the bolt.
Awesome video! Looks good!
I had so much trouble putting that rear end back together nothing would line up
Put the bolts back in reverse..and maybe lift the components with the jack to make them align.
@@rtjoe i did i had to unhook just about everything in the rear end to get it to line up only got both the front and back right done i still have to do the back left waiting for this weekend to do it but i did take it on a test drive and the front made alot of clunking noise when i hit bumps i think it may be the shock top nuts on the front not being fully tightened cause i couldnt get the shaft to stop spinning did you have a trick for that i saw you just used a impact on it mine wouldn’t
Yeah the rear is a bit more challenging because of the spacing. And I don’t have any sounds coming from the wheels. If the bolt is spinning, use another tool on the other end to hold it.
Looks great bro! Did you end up getting a wheel alignment after it was all said and done? I gotta get a couple tools but i will be installing mine today.
Thanks bro 🤝 I got a wheel alignment two months before deciding I want to drop the car...if I had made my mind up back then I would’ve waited until after but so far it’s been wearing evenly
That's what's up bro! Man, like I said I started putting mine on today and got stuck on the front wheel. That middle bolt won't tighten for me. It just keeps spinning. And nothing to hold it with on the other side. All the other bolts are snug but I can't snug that one. Suggestions?
You can either squeeze the rubber bushing just a little bit with a vice grip for it to catch or you can apply a little pressure to the bolt by lowering the jack a little (if you do the second method make sure to hand tighten the upper control arm bolt so it doesn’t fall back out)
Where did you get the spring clamps?
Harbor Freight
😂😂😂
You have to change the rear struts, those are self leveling
Did it settle lower now that you have driven it more? Does it hit certain speedbumps and dips? I am considering it on my 2015 Dodge Charger RT.
It settled a little lower and I still have not scraped anything (I’m being careful about it). It’s a cool mod and it makes the stance of the car look aggressive. If you do lower your car, I suggest aligning after because of the drop. You can check out my Instagram story for an updated look @rtjoee
@@rtjoe Nice, thanks for the reply! I've had the car for one monh and have deleted resonators and isntalled 44s.
@@ramirogovea3092 whatd you end up doing in suspension bro?
Just the lowering springs and wheel alignment
Clean work 💪🏽💯💯💯
Great video man! I'm in Tampa if you ever cruise through again. Wondering if you have the torque specs for the rear bolts (all of them)? If not I'll keep looking, but figured I'd ask to save some time. Thanks!
Aight for sure bro 🤙🏽 I don’t have the specs for the bolts
@@rtjoe NP I found them, thanks bro 👊🏼
@@robcolletti What were the torque specs? Do you have the specs for the front as well?
@@cameronmartin428 Protip: TORQUE BOLTS/NUTS UNDER WEIGHT
Front Torque Specs/Notes
• Shock Absorber upper mounting nuts (under hood) - 13mm
○ Align them to original wear marks
○ Tighten to 20 ft/lbs
• Upper ball joint mounting nut (use an Allen key in the middle to keep it from turning) - 2 Step - 18mm
○ Tighten to 35 ft/lbs
○ Then Tighten an additional 95 degrees
• Stabilizer Link Upper Mounting Nut - 111 ft/lbs 21mm
• Shock Absorber lower mounting bolt (bottom of strut) 18mm
○ Using the jack - raise as close as possible to normal ride height
○ Tighten to 128 ft/lbs
Rear Torque Specs/Notes
• Shock upper bolts 46 ft/lb 16mm (swivel extension is helpful)
Shock lower bolt 96 ft/lb 15mm bolt with 18mm nut (use a wrench for the nut)
If you drop the rear (while jack supported) to remove spring - 105 ft/lbs (18mm nut, 15mm bolt)
@@robcolletti Thanks!
Awesome video!! Thanks for posting this. A question: Does the front cushion on the front struts need to be replaced? Does it have some kind of bearing or cushion that breaks or anything like that?
Thanks, I appreciate that. I didn't have to change or replace anything other than the springs itself. Nothing should be breaking.
I just installed mines and the rear lettering are supposed to be upside down or readable?
Should be readable
@@rtjoe after a week my rear is making some creaking sounds. Sounds like rubber to rubber. Did you have to lubricate the springs for the top and bottom hat
No lubricants just a spring swap
Good video bro! Car looks good
Ayyy thanks bro
where did you buy the springs??
Tire Rack
definitely taking it to the shop 😂
Nice work. Good video, thanks!🇺🇸
How do you know how tight the strut needs to be again ?
It should be tightened using only hand tools. It should not be as tight as lug nuts. If you want to go the extra mile, you can rent/buy a torque wrench and tighten to the manufacturer exact specifications
What impact drill are you using?
Ryobi from Home Depot
@@rtjoe thank you and how much torque does it have?
300
what size did you get for the front springs ??
These are the specific lowering springs I have: H&R 50888 Sport Springs
How low did these springs drop?
It’s an aggressive drop 🔥You can check out the car page @rtjoee on Instagram for a better view.
Greatly appreciate that 🙏
You lower it 1.7 bro ?
yeah just about
Would the RT suspension be the same as the v6's
I’m not sure on that one
Good video. You explained everything well 🥃
Great video boi
Thanks bro
Nice bro what size wheels ? Great video thankz✌🏽
275 in the front & 315 in the rear
Does this fit an sxt charger
It may fit, you’ll just have to make sure the sxt is one of the compatible sub models for the springs
Wassuh bro how many inches you went down ?
about 1.7 inches
Word you have an ig or something I wanna see how yours sit before I get it I have an Daytona btw and I wanna close that gap
ig is rtjoee
@@rtjoe i follow you brah
What’s up man, looks great do you rub at all. I saw you saying not to get them if you ride with people so I’m guessing you do get wheels rubbing?
Yes it does rub when I have a full car. It doesn’t rub the whole time but whenever I do hit a bump it definitely rubs. I don’t normally have a full car so I don’t mind the occasional rubs. Hope this helps. If you have more questions, you can dm me on Instagram
Are they any good for the long run ?
From personal experience, so far I’ve had no problems and I’ve had these on my car since July of 2020. But if you plan on driving your car filled with passengers and have 315 tires in the rear like me then that can be something to consider.
Been a minute since the install. After theve settled, hows the ride quality? Great video man!
It’s been over a year since the install and I must say they’ve settled a lot. In my opinion it’s lower than the manufacturer say it would. The ride quality is stiffer than the stock springs, so you’ll feel bumps more when driving. I wouldn’t recommend getting them if you normally drive your car with a full car of people.
Nice brother...What size tires you running? Thinking about dropping mines. Im running 275/40/20F 315/35/20R
I have the same tire set up but my offsets are +25 rear (10.5 inch rim) and +15 front (9.5 inch rim)
@@rtjoe solid. Preciate it man
I have same bro looks great with those wheel size
💪🏽 the stance is top tier
Which ones were lighter stock or H&R?
When I lifted the both of them together I didn’t feel a significant difference in the weight
I have a question, how long did it took you to install the springs ?
Probably 2-3 hours taking a few breaks in between
Hey Bro looks really good. I have one question, did you need an alignment after?
Thanks bro and I did not get an alignment after lowering but I would suggest getting it. When I change my wheel setup I did an alignment which was about 2-3 months before I made up my mind to lower my car. So basically if I made up my mind back then I wouldve just waited until after I did everything. So far it’s been good tho
@@rtjoe Thanks Bro really appreciate the quick comment, and definately gonna look into these H&R's for my RT as well.
Nice video bro… how much for those springs and where did u get it? Thanks
Roughly $250 and I got mine through TireRack.com
Will these fit an sxt?
Yeah, just have to get the right one for your car
How do these ride?
You can feel the difference in ride quality when comparing them to stock springs. It’s stiffer but the handling is way better than the stock springs. You’ll feel bumps more bcuz of the stiffness
Yo bro.. Nice video! Did you order the H&R Sport Spring? How long did it take to be delivered?
Yeah I got the Sport Springs and it took less than a week to be delivered
Bro make it look so simple damn!
Looks amazing. Have a question if you still have the car how are the springs right now still good and drive fine ?
They are still good, they have settled perfectly 🦍🔥 no gap at all
How long do these take to install?
If you have a general idea about wheel set ups, all the parts and components, and the required tools, you can do all 4 within 2 hours.
Shouldn’t take more than 1 day tbh
Great video 👍
What’s your rim size..
9.5 in the front, 10.5 in the rear
Diameter of the rims?
Great vid
Thank you
Awesome
Spring compressors like that scare me because you can feel when there compressed they want to kill you!
Just installed mine from looking at this video
I bet you it's looking aggressive and you won't go back 🦍 🔥
@@rtjoe yeah never going back, stock height just wayyy too high on a rt, idk what dodge was thinking
Nice fast and short vid. Any rubbing ?
No but I would suggest checking out my most recent vid. I gave a lot of info. th-cam.com/video/tPRNZqB2k68/w-d-xo.html
What size are the tires?
F: 275/40/20 R: 315/35/20
Mine looks like the end result of this video stock I think it's time to replace my springs 😂
It just might be time
New sub here 🤟
Excellent how to
A Charger lower? ! lower?!
Part number
Awd ?
RWD
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What’s size springs are those ?
How low did you go front and rear?
Is the ride quality stiffer now or bottom out
It’s stiffer than stock. You feel the bumps and dips more but it doesn’t bother me at all 😊
Would this work on a 08 charger
i'm sure you can lower an 08 but you'll have to research which springs work for that year