My neighbor's gazebo blew off from strong wind because they attached to the pavers. Attach it to the pavers only to keep the base from moving around, but not strong enough to sustain the wind. You need strong footing.
This video is so helpful! I have a 10'x 20" concrete patio thats3.5 inches thick. It's holding 504 lbs of steel and wood. All i have left is to officially anchor. Bc it slopes, I learned I can add metal shims to help level it...but it doesn't have a roof- no big weight to hold. The anchor holes are 3/8's. I think this will work! Drill the length plus a 1/4 and it won't bust thru the slab. Awesome!
Thanks for putting this video. Best one on anchoring. My problem is that I already have pavers in place where I am thinking of installing a pergola. Don't think drilling right into the pavers is a good idea. Any thougths?
I agree. Drilling into your pavers is not a good idea. The pavers won’t provide an adequate anchor for the pergola. I’m did that once and had a pergola pull the pavers out in a wind storm. I don’t know of any options other than removing some of the pavers to pour an footing.
You might want to look into a product like this. It might provide enough anchor and you could still through your paver to all the ground screw to anchor itself into the paver base.
How did you make your concrete footings to attach your Backyard Pergola. Part of my pergola will be on existing concrete patio and the part off the grass I plan to make a concrete footing. How deep & wide should my footings be to attach the pergola posts to? Thanks Mike
Hello! I show me preparing the footings in this video at about 10:15 mark. th-cam.com/video/uzYsFbdSUl8/w-d-xo.html I went down below our frost line at 42". The footing was roughly a 12" circle about 42"+ deep that I formed into a 12"x12" square at grade for the pergola post to attach to. The square portion of the footing was roughly 9" deep. You can see the completed footing in this video prior to installing the patio. th-cam.com/video/Jn03bYvkwwY/w-d-xo.html You will not want to go any smaller than 12"x12" footing as the anchors will be too close to the footing edge and may break out of the footing.
Thanks for sharing this. Question...I have a similar styled patio with pavers. We did not have footings installed, but have a gazebo that I would like to anchor into. If I anchor the posts into the pavers, would it still be secure enough against the wind? Gazebo is probably a similar overall weight as your structure. Thanks!
Depending on how much wind you get, I doubt anchoring to the pavers would be enough. The roof of the gazebo will act like a parachute and want to lift the structure much more than a pergola.
Question for you. I'm going to anchor a gazebo to concrete patio floor. I want to put a barrier, like PVC or ABS about a half inch thick.I have done this with Hammock stands and it works to prevent the bottom from rusting. But this is a lot more weight. Your thoughts?
Good video. My concern is that the pergola stays attached to its base. I assembled a metal gazebo with a similar set up and the metal inset for the base plate is attached to the gazebo posts with just two screws (looks the same for this pergola) I used a 4" heavy duty bolt to go through both sides to help. One other comment is NEVER use your torque wrench to do all the tightening on a bolt. Get the bolt somewhat tightened with your socket wrench and then finish tightening with the torque wrench. Otherwise you will eventually compromise the torque wrench calibration/accuracy.
My neighbor's gazebo blew off from strong wind because they attached to the pavers. Attach it to the pavers only to keep the base from moving around, but not strong enough to sustain the wind. You need strong footing.
Hi. Did you set up a layer of concrete over the pavers and then the pergola plate over the concrete? I’m about to do the same but was told wind with pavers set up that way won’t hold the pergola. Thanks and nice job.
Hi! I dug 42” footers and filled with concrete. The pavers were then cut around the footers. You can see the hole I dug for the footing in this video. th-cam.com/video/uzYsFbdSUl8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1Qg75u_PQwaThhXA go to the 10:21 mark.
You will most likely need a hammer drill to get through the concrete. A regular drill won’t have the impacts to chip away at the concrete as it drills.
Is there a part 1 to this video? Your footers are perfect… I was thinking of pulling each paver out, laying concrete theeeeeen putting the paver on top
The process for my footers was captured well. This video shows the holes prior to forms and concrete. Starting the Versa-Lok Retaining Wall th-cam.com/video/uzYsFbdSUl8/w-d-xo.html
The holes for the footing are round. The ground in this video was about 9 inches below the final patio grade. So, I made a 1 foot wide by 8” deep square form out of some wood that I screwed together. This created a 8” deep and 12” wide square form that I placed over the round footing holes. I used some stakes screwed onto the outside of the square form to hold it at the final grade. I mixed my concrete and filled the footing hole all the way up to the top of the wooden forms. I let it cure 2 days and removed the forms.
For a minute i thought i found my solution, but i guess not 😢 You have concrete base already made for the pergola poles. i recently bought a gazebo,, without realizing that its not advisable to install it on interlocking (just like yours, but i dont have those concrete bases). ive been told that if i drill on those interlocked pavers, they'll crack like a cookie. any recommendations, please?
Yes, the pavers will be good enough to hold it in place with no wind, but will not be effecting in anchoring the pergola in a wind storm. There really aren’t many easy options. The best option is to remove the pavers under the support posts, dig a hole and pour some concrete footings to anchor the pergola. I have it on my list to create a video on how to do this.
Whats the point ?4 heavy duty raw bolts holding each base but only 2 X very small M5 screws holding the posts to the base. I have a similar pergola I spent hours levelling each pillar. When fully assembled the whole pergola wobbles around so badly because of the 2 silly screws holding the hollow posts to the ground bases.😮
I agree the pergola will destruct before any of the anchors get pulled out. But, that is the point to not have the anchoring system be the weak link. I agree with the two screws holding the anchor plate to the legs. However, this pergola doesn’t shake at all. There is very little movement is any direction once it is all tightened and anchored.
Hi! You need to over drill the depth of the hole to ensure the anchor does not bottom out before being embedded the desired depth. This addition depth allows dust and chips of concrete to fall to the bottom while driving the anchor into the hole.
In a prior video I showed the holes for the footings. I dug and poured the footings prior to the patio. If the patio is already in place, yes you would need to remove some pavers to pour your footings.
The footings in this video were down to our frost line which is around 42”. This prevents the footing from moving from the freeze - thaw cycles. If you are in a warmer climate, you won’t need to go as deep.
I have to admit, use of a bike pump was pretty primitive, but reasonably effective! Thanks for presenting!
Great video series! Glad I watched it before assembling our Backyard Discovery Pergola.
Thank you so much for putting this together and your past video on installing the pergola. Well done!
The bike pump...what a great idea for removing debris from holes...thank you
Dude thanks so much for this. My pergola wasn't anchored down and contractors flaked, going to just do it myself. Great video!
Glad it was helpful!
This was very helpful. Thank you so much. And now I have a new use for a bike pump.😂
I just strapped a tv in my steel pergola using the ZeboZAP. So watched this video to add some screwing into the footings. Thanks for sharing.
I was really looking for a tv mount that won’t drill and the ZeboZAP was super awesome for those have this purple leaf gazebo check it out.
@@VillaLumina I will have to check that out! Thanks!
My neighbor's gazebo blew off from strong wind because they attached to the pavers. Attach it to the pavers only to keep the base from moving around, but not strong enough to sustain the wind. You need strong footing.
Great video, thank you!
Sweet backyard set up and it will all last
Thanks! I hope it lasts! Definitely not something I want to redo any time soon!
This video is so helpful! I have a 10'x 20" concrete patio thats3.5 inches thick. It's holding 504 lbs of steel and wood. All i have left is to officially anchor. Bc it slopes, I learned I can add metal shims to help level it...but it doesn't have a roof- no big weight to hold. The anchor holes are 3/8's. I think this will work! Drill the length plus a 1/4 and it won't bust thru the slab. Awesome!
Sounds like a great plan! Good luck!
Great Video !! Thank You !!!
Thanks!! Glad you found it useful.
Thanks all, very, very helpful. We're putting one up this weekend and I found value in every comment and reply.
Thanks! Good luck with your pergola!
Very helpful. Many how to videos on pergolas totally skip this step.
Hi,
Your videos are very helpful.
I have a concrete slab 10 cm thickness. Can I anchor the pergola posts directly on the slab? Thank you
Yes, 10cm is thick enough to anchor the pergola to the concrete slab. Make sure the anchor is embedded into the slab around ~5cm.
How did u pour the concrete footing?
Hello, great video, one question how deep was your footing?
thank you
Each footing was down to the frost line. For us, that was about 42”.
How would you attach it to the ground? Or to crushed asphalt? Would 12” U shape rebar on each post bracket be enough?
Thanks for putting this video. Best one on anchoring. My problem is that I already have pavers in place where I am thinking of installing a pergola. Don't think drilling right into the pavers is a good idea. Any thougths?
I agree. Drilling into your pavers is not a good idea. The pavers won’t provide an adequate anchor for the pergola. I’m did that once and had a pergola pull the pavers out in a wind storm. I don’t know of any options other than removing some of the pavers to pour an footing.
You might want to look into a product like this. It might provide enough anchor and you could still through your paver to all the ground screw to anchor itself into the paver base.
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How did you make your concrete footings to attach your Backyard Pergola. Part of my pergola will be on existing concrete patio and the part off the grass I plan to make a concrete footing. How deep & wide should my footings be to attach the pergola posts to?
Thanks Mike
Hello! I show me preparing the footings in this video at about 10:15 mark. th-cam.com/video/uzYsFbdSUl8/w-d-xo.html I went down below our frost line at 42". The footing was roughly a 12" circle about 42"+ deep that I formed into a 12"x12" square at grade for the pergola post to attach to. The square portion of the footing was roughly 9" deep. You can see the completed footing in this video prior to installing the patio. th-cam.com/video/Jn03bYvkwwY/w-d-xo.html You will not want to go any smaller than 12"x12" footing as the anchors will be too close to the footing edge and may break out of the footing.
Thanks for sharing this. Question...I have a similar styled patio with pavers. We did not have footings installed, but have a gazebo that I would like to anchor into. If I anchor the posts into the pavers, would it still be secure enough against the wind? Gazebo is probably a similar overall weight as your structure. Thanks!
Depending on how much wind you get, I doubt anchoring to the pavers would be enough. The roof of the gazebo will act like a parachute and want to lift the structure much more than a pergola.
We have the same problem… i guess we need to take out paver and pour concrete and anchor gazebo to it
Did those bolts cole with the pergola? If not what bolts are needed to fix into concrete?
Question for you. I'm going to anchor a gazebo to concrete patio floor. I want to put a barrier, like PVC or ABS about a half inch thick.I have done this with Hammock stands and it works to prevent the bottom from rusting. But this is a lot more weight. Your thoughts?
Sorry I missed this comment. I think this should work just fine. Let me know how it works out. m My pergola is showing zero rust after 1.5 years.
Good video. My concern is that the pergola stays attached to its base. I assembled a metal gazebo with a similar set up and the metal inset for the base plate is attached to the gazebo posts with just two screws (looks the same for this pergola) I used a 4" heavy duty bolt to go through both sides to help.
One other comment is NEVER use your torque wrench to do all the tightening on a bolt. Get the bolt somewhat tightened with your socket wrench and then finish tightening with the torque wrench. Otherwise you will eventually compromise the torque wrench calibration/accuracy.
My neighbor's gazebo blew off from strong wind because they attached to the pavers. Attach it to the pavers only to keep the base from moving around, but not strong enough to sustain the wind. You need strong footing.
Hi. Did you set up a layer of concrete over the pavers and then the pergola plate over the concrete? I’m about to do the same but was told wind with pavers set up that way won’t hold the pergola. Thanks and nice job.
Hi! I dug 42” footers and filled with concrete. The pavers were then cut around the footers. You can see the hole I dug for the footing in this video. th-cam.com/video/uzYsFbdSUl8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1Qg75u_PQwaThhXA go to the 10:21 mark.
What size drill bit would you use for a 1/8” foot bracket?
The bit size would be dependent on the screw or anchor that is being used. The specific screw or anchor will state the required bit size.
Do you have a video showing how you poured the footings
Do we need a hammer drill or will any drill work? Thank you
You will most likely need a hammer drill to get through the concrete. A regular drill won’t have the impacts to chip away at the concrete as it drills.
Is there a part 1 to this video? Your footers are perfect… I was thinking of pulling each paver out, laying concrete theeeeeen putting the paver on top
The process for my footers was captured well. This video shows the holes prior to forms and concrete. Starting the Versa-Lok Retaining Wall
th-cam.com/video/uzYsFbdSUl8/w-d-xo.html
The holes for the footing are round. The ground in this video was about 9 inches below the final patio grade. So, I made a 1 foot wide by 8” deep square form out of some wood that I screwed together. This created a 8” deep and 12” wide square form that I placed over the round footing holes. I used some stakes screwed onto the outside of the square form to hold it at the final grade. I mixed my concrete and filled the footing hole all the way up to the top of the wooden forms. I let it cure 2 days and removed the forms.
For a minute i thought i found my solution, but i guess not 😢 You have concrete base already made for the pergola poles. i recently bought a gazebo,, without realizing that its not advisable to install it on interlocking (just like yours, but i dont have those concrete bases). ive been told that if i drill on those interlocked pavers, they'll crack like a cookie. any recommendations, please?
Yes, the pavers will be good enough to hold it in place with no wind, but will not be effecting in anchoring the pergola in a wind storm. There really aren’t many easy options. The best option is to remove the pavers under the support posts, dig a hole and pour some concrete footings to anchor the pergola. I have it on my list to create a video on how to do this.
How long did you let your cement dry before putting the anchors in ?
The footings were poured in fall and pergola was installed in spring, so about six months. However, you could wait as little as two weeks.
What is your recommendation to level pergola when patio is slightly sloped ?
If the slope is slight I would use stacked stainless steel washers under the bolt holes to lift each post the appropriate height.
Maybe I missed it but you should mention that you need a hammer drill to drill concrete effectively. But great presentation.
2 minutes and 30 seconds exactly. He says you need a hammer drill.....
Whats the point ?4 heavy duty raw bolts holding each base but only 2 X very small M5 screws holding the posts to the base. I have a similar pergola I spent hours levelling each pillar. When fully assembled the whole pergola wobbles around so badly because of the 2 silly screws holding the hollow posts to the ground bases.😮
I agree the pergola will destruct before any of the anchors get pulled out. But, that is the point to not have the anchoring system be the weak link. I agree with the two screws holding the anchor plate to the legs. However, this pergola doesn’t shake at all. There is very little movement is any direction once it is all tightened and anchored.
I guess I’m not understanding why you’re drilling more than the length of the bolt when the bolt is still sticking out of the ground?
Hi! You need to over drill the depth of the hole to ensure the anchor does not bottom out before being embedded the desired depth. This addition depth allows dust and chips of concrete to fall to the bottom while driving the anchor into the hole.
@@blood_sweat_and_beers thanks. Makes sense now.
Hi - did you take some pavers out to put the concrete footing?
In a prior video I showed the holes for the footings. I dug and poured the footings prior to the patio. If the patio is already in place, yes you would need to remove some pavers to pour your footings.
I never understood pergolas, they don’t provide shade or protection from rain🤷♂️
lol. You aren’t wrong.
They are primarily architectural focal points in a yard.
You can add covering on top
Louvered ones do
Wich is why I bought a louvered one . Cost me 3500 😅 but damn it's sooo modern and beautiful
Is there a way to do this when you're pouring concrete? I'd like to be able to set the base plates into the 4 corners whilst the concrete sets.
You scuffed the leg
Gives it character. 😁
How thick are the cement footings you poured
The footings in this video were down to our frost line which is around 42”. This prevents the footing from moving from the freeze - thaw cycles. If you are in a warmer climate, you won’t need to go as deep.