@@fernandovazquez1118you can’t really call it a minecraft approach since minecraft actually blends biomes and smoothes out the colour differences of those biomes
Now that we have grass, we need a hide system for animal. So that carnivore can hide but small animal can also hide in grass, so better eye can mutate for birds
Great, now we need flowers that don't come from trees (and probably root food like potatoes, bulbs and tubers), which I forgot to add in my previous "ideas" comment. Edit: I like @DG-iw3yw's pollination idea.
Root-based foods is an amazing idea. New limbs for digging, which opens up burrowing options for birthing and eggs, as well as predators that dig up burrows for said eggs and animals.
You litterally never cease to amaze. here i was thinking grass was some far off feature but NOPE! here it is! You are seriously an inspiration to us all. I cannot wait for what your going to reveal next devlog. keep doing what your doing, your awesome at it!
That happy accident with the grass in the water is going to improve the games feel quite a lot. Thanks for persevering even in the face of these obstacles!
The square grass patches may look rather weird. My recommendation would be either/both changing the grid to triangular/hexagonal for terrain, or using intermediate graphics when different terrains share borders (alternatively, autotiling), or using tiles as centers of circular areas that fill grass in covered regions. #YouCanTouchGrassInSapling
@@TheSapling I’ve been down a lot of the same rabbit holes and have a Sebastian Lague terrain of my own. I’m pretty sure I saw some videos about switching out his material stuff for a shader graph material that just uses the vertex heights and blends different materials into each other, but I’m not sure how easy this would be if you are not using vertex height for when the textures need to transition.
Also can you list what you did for this grass and it’s effect on the main thread speed? Because idk how many optimization techniques I need to pack in for performant grass. I assume you used GPU instancing idk if it was indirect or just normal, and I see you used a shader to make it move, did you use a chuck system for LODs or for culling? Did you do anything else?
This patch is sounding better and better! Grasses along with poisons for seeds is really gonna encourage diversity for herbivores. Maybe adding some sort of poison system for all the different plant leaves/parts in a future update as other people have suggested might be a good idea?
I'm not sure if this already in game, but having natural disasters that change the course of evolution randomly would be cool. Kind of like how when the asteroid hit earth, only smaller bird-like animals were able to survive the aftermath.
I think a way to immerse the player more in the simulation could be to jave the animals move while idle and stop when they sense danger food or something interesting
Bruh just a few days ago I said this "This game really needs grass because it just looks like a desert" and you just added grass now so this was good timing The sapling/"your real name" whatever is it.
The moment this update comes out, I’m going to make purple grass as a tribute to that ONE stubby plant that nearly made my computer burst into flames by being a little *too* fertile.
I just love how great your game is I had always wanted a game where a player starts it but it evolves in its own way completely random and creates a one in many different ways of an ecosystem And it just keeps getting better and better every single time
This is super exciting!! One thing I'd appreciate (like many other commenters), is a way to smoothly transition terrain colors between grass types (so it's not just a square border). Magnificent job, though!
@@TheSapling thanks so much for the response! I was also wondering if you're going to say anything about the whole Unity shenanigans, because I know you've said that The Sapling is built on Unity. It's unlikely to impact The Sapling specifically (not enough revenue or downloads), but it's definitely something to think about.
This is amazing! Every part of this showcase more than the last one. I can't wait to check the update :) The sea grass made me think about corals. I think that would be a cool thing to implement at some point, but probably it's way more work than I imagine.
As fans of this game and inherently fans of you. It will be very nice to see this game grow. This is the spore we never got. Your dedication to this project helps me keep many of my dreams alive. Just that i might have to upgrade my pc by the time you're done with this.
I can’t lie, I’ve seen someone play your game once and I’ve seen the thumbnails for your past dev logs come up but the gas’s and the animal on this video is what made me click
What a superb title. I’m planning on rewatching every video on this channel (plus maybe some other people’s videos on the game) and seeing what I come away with.
While We Had Been Following Since Near The Beginning Of This Channel If We Recall Correctly. What Really Hooked Us Personally Is Evolution Simulated Series You Did. To Put It Rather Bluntly. You Are The First Person To Design A Simulation Capable Of, If Rather... Let's Call It "Abridged" But Nonetheless The First Person To Be Able To Show Complex Life Going From Underwater To On Land With Minimal Player Interaction And ALL Evolution. THAT, Right There, Is Amazing, And Honestly Should Be Celebrated More
Amazing work! But a a little tip or.. critique Ig from my side, some kid of gradient between different colors of grasses might be cool, so it looks more natural 😅
@@TheSapling it would be cool if there were another size like tiny for things like insects, i think they could be an interesting addition to the sapling that would add a lot of depth and new mechanic possibilities ( i have no clue how hard that would be to implement tho)
I love it! A lot of great games set in other worlds have different grass colors, to really sell that ‘other world’ feel. I have a suggestion though, changing of sky and water color? If the light of the sun can be changed, shouldn’t that affect the atmosphere and and water color? Just a little suggestion that might go a long way!
Yeah this is a cool idea, I actually looked into the science of this, but I haven't been able to turn it into a game mechanic I like so far. I do have something to say about water colors later though :)
More things can add: parasites that live partially or entirely on larger animals, map changing you can use to create islands, or combine them with mainlands, or create mountains.
I really love the addition of grass and the music at the beginning is pretty good. anyway, here are some more suggestions/ideas. 6.a height scale to see how tall/long an organism is. 8. amphibious body parts and skin types
Animals should be able to hide inside tall grass. it could read it's position on the texture and compare the grass height and the animal size, and have it be harder for other animals to see it if the grass is tall enough. This could result in some interesting scenarios where predators could stalk prey, or prey could evolve to be short, and harder for predators to spot.
Considering grass is known for destroying herbivore teeth via a unique level of abrasiveness, will only some herbivore mouths in The Sapling be good at eating grass like on Earth?
Absolutely beautiful, I love that the grass will change colors across the landscape just like everything else. Makes for some really beautiful, alien worlds. Can't wait to try out the update when it comes out! The Sapling is one of my favorite projects, keep up the good work Wessel!
The game has been on my wishlist waiting for it to be on sale, now after seeing a few of your devlogs i think i will buy it full price. Seeing your passion gives me the trust that this game is really something great and will become even greater.
suggestion: make it so dense areas of grass can camouflage animals that have a similar height to the grass (and if possible make the advantage bigger if the color of the animal is similar to the color of the grass)
and with seagrass, it's almost like you're setting up the framework for benthic niches. All that's left is giving animals the ability to walk or crawl along the sea floor
I was thinking of sharing ideas as a comment on one of your videos, and grass was one of my ideas, giving the old brown ground from before. I also think it would be cool if there where rodents like squirrels, that would store food in the ground for later seasons, and if the creature forgets where the food was, it will simply grow into the plant that the nut was assigned to, and also insects would be cool, where they have survivability conditions, and if those conditions are not met, the creature lays eggs which stay dormant until they are.
grass is actually a highly evolved organism, there are genetic individuals that have existed for thousands of years or more by simply cloning/vegetatively propagating themselves, the roots can grow underground and survive without light for a LONG time, and you will find those roots deep in the clay several feet down. It is a very tenacious and survivable organism. Many grasses live on poor soils and literally synthesise their required nutrients to survive out of rocky and clay substrate
Your really talented damn. I do suggest doing something with the save portion of the game. So we can name our save files and such. When saving I found I couldn’t tell if i saved or not after pressing the button. Other things I would suggest is having animals being able to poop. So that it can be used as fertilizer and spread seeds at a rate that makes sense. Having grass with the ability to turn into trees and floating algae.
I've never been this excited about grass before. It's going to make the world look so much more real
damm same
As a dutch person, being excited about grass is a very common occurence.
indeed in arizona, grass keeps people around me safe everyday.
@@theothertonydutch dutch people are real?
Grasslands are actually pretty diverse. Just look into a field and you’ll find a hundred species, (not to discount forests or anything).
It would be nice to have an option to blend the grass colors together so the edges aren't that sharp
Yeah I love the introduction of grass but I'm not sure about the Minecraft approach, anyway incredible work
Yeah, maybe make half of the grass in bordering tiles be of one color & the other be of another color or some shit like that
Yeah that’s the only problem I can see now is the borders of the different grass is just a solid line.
@@fernandovazquez1118you can’t really call it a minecraft approach since minecraft actually blends biomes and smoothes out the colour differences of those biomes
@@quakxy_dukxthere is a setting to change how much it blends
Wow, the inclusion of grass in this update was unexpected.
I mean, grazing is a pretty important food source for a lot of creatures.
was also highly requested iirc
I mean, bugs?
Me when I go outside
i always wanted grass in this game but thought it was impossible can't wait to see how you did it
“Touch grass” can’t, it burned the house down
Now that we have grass, we need a hide system for animal. So that carnivore can hide but small animal can also hide in grass, so better eye can mutate for birds
Love that idea
Without making promises, indeed an idea I like!
Great, now we need flowers that don't come from trees (and probably root food like potatoes, bulbs and tubers), which I forgot to add in my previous "ideas" comment.
Edit: I like @DG-iw3yw's pollination idea.
thats a good idea ground fruit and flowers
thats a great idea. the potatoes and stuff. he could also have a pig snout added with it!
Baby steps, I'd be sad if it was rushed
@@dougrious_diswiggle and digging claws like a mole's
Root-based foods is an amazing idea. New limbs for digging, which opens up burrowing options for birthing and eggs, as well as predators that dig up burrows for said eggs and animals.
THIS UPDATE IS SO BIG AND GOOD.
You litterally never cease to amaze. here i was thinking grass was some far off feature but NOPE! here it is! You are seriously an inspiration to us all. I cannot wait for what your going to reveal next devlog. keep doing what your doing, your awesome at it!
YESS THE GRASS UPDATE, THE BIGGEST UPDATE FOR THE SAPLING WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR
The inclusion of grass bumped this game up to top 5 games I wanted. Never thought it would have mattered that much but I'm hype!
That happy accident with the grass in the water is going to improve the games feel quite a lot. Thanks for persevering even in the face of these obstacles!
The square grass patches may look rather weird. My recommendation would be either/both changing the grid to triangular/hexagonal for terrain, or using intermediate graphics when different terrains share borders (alternatively, autotiling), or using tiles as centers of circular areas that fill grass in covered regions.
#YouCanTouchGrassInSapling
It would be nice if there was some kind of blending so that the border between different colors is more gradual
Alternatively, implement some kind of grass spread/percentage system that decides how covered each tile is, although that might be laggy
Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated! Multiple people seem to be suggesting this, so it's definitely something I'll look into
@@TheSapling I’ve been down a lot of the same rabbit holes and have a Sebastian Lague terrain of my own. I’m pretty sure I saw some videos about switching out his material stuff for a shader graph material that just uses the vertex heights and blends different materials into each other, but I’m not sure how easy this would be if you are not using vertex height for when the textures need to transition.
Also can you list what you did for this grass and it’s effect on the main thread speed? Because idk how many optimization techniques I need to pack in for performant grass. I assume you used GPU instancing idk if it was indirect or just normal, and I see you used a shader to make it move, did you use a chuck system for LODs or for culling? Did you do anything else?
This patch is sounding better and better! Grasses along with poisons for seeds is really gonna encourage diversity for herbivores.
Maybe adding some sort of poison system for all the different plant leaves/parts in a future update as other people have suggested might be a good idea?
Thanks! Without making promises, it's indeed an idea I'm interested in
You a beast of a man adding grass to a game that already had performance issues, and making it work! (Alone no less!)
I love how the squares look. It's a different look but it is so pretty and artful.
Thanks! I'm not sure if they'll stay though, as a lot of others seem to dislike the squares
I'm not sure if this already in game, but having natural disasters that change the course of evolution randomly would be cool. Kind of like how when the asteroid hit earth, only smaller bird-like animals were able to survive the aftermath.
I really do like this idea yes :)
Also, small animals that live in burrows can survive forest fires (though fires would be very laggy)
I think a way to immerse the player more in the simulation could be to jave the animals move while idle and stop when they sense danger food or something interesting
IT IS TIME TO TOUCH GRASS FELLOW GAMERS!!
Dude, I would love another video/miniseries where you start another simulation!
You and me both :)
Bruh just a few days ago I said this "This game really needs grass because it just looks like a desert" and you just added grass now so this was good timing The sapling/"your real name" whatever is it.
The moment this update comes out, I’m going to make purple grass as a tribute to that ONE stubby plant that nearly made my computer burst into flames by being a little *too* fertile.
I just love how great your game is
I had always wanted a game where a player starts it but it evolves in its own way completely random and creates a one in many different ways of an ecosystem
And it just keeps getting better and better every single time
HOLY CRAP THIS WILL EXIST
It would be great to see more variety underwater as well. If algae could evolve into more complicated plants underwater that would be interesting
Without making promises, indeed an idea I like!
Now I can obligate my creations to touch grass. Marvelous.
I can’t wait to see this! There are so many more opportunities for the game now! Rock on!
This is super exciting!! One thing I'd appreciate (like many other commenters), is a way to smoothly transition terrain colors between grass types (so it's not just a square border). Magnificent job, though!
Thanks for your feedback! It's indeed often suggested, something to look into! :)
@@TheSapling thanks so much for the response! I was also wondering if you're going to say anything about the whole Unity shenanigans, because I know you've said that The Sapling is built on Unity. It's unlikely to impact The Sapling specifically (not enough revenue or downloads), but it's definitely something to think about.
Happy to see more dev logs!
"you planted grass?"
"'Grass!?!"
*Laughter*
Ice could be a really interesting addition
I never felt so exited and I NEED THIS GAME over grass before.
This is amazing! Every part of this showcase more than the last one. I can't wait to check the update :)
The sea grass made me think about corals. I think that would be a cool thing to implement at some point, but probably it's way more work than I imagine.
Thanks! Without making promises, corals are indeed an idea I like
Yes, it's a great way to make underwater less barren, it would look very pretty!
As fans of this game and inherently fans of you. It will be very nice to see this game grow. This is the spore we never got. Your dedication to this project helps me keep many of my dreams alive. Just that i might have to upgrade my pc by the time you're done with this.
I can’t lie, I’ve seen someone play your game once and I’ve seen the thumbnails for your past dev logs come up but the gas’s and the animal on this video is what made me click
This is useful info, thanks! Fun fact: thumbnails with animals on them do way better ;)
Maybe with grass around my herbivores will stop dying out so much
What a superb title.
I’m planning on rewatching every video on this channel (plus maybe some other people’s videos on the game) and seeing what I come away with.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN FINALLY TOUCH GRASS WITHOUT GOING OUTSIDE
I'm hyped Already been loving creating my own worlds and seeing how they evolve over time, Keep up the good work!
Finally, we can touch grass in The Sapling
Hype
hype
Hype
Bold move to force a bunch of gamers to touch grass
While We Had Been Following Since Near The Beginning Of This Channel If We Recall Correctly. What Really Hooked Us Personally Is Evolution Simulated Series You Did.
To Put It Rather Bluntly. You Are The First Person To Design A Simulation Capable Of, If Rather... Let's Call It "Abridged" But Nonetheless The First Person To Be Able To Show Complex Life Going From Underwater To On Land With Minimal Player Interaction And ALL Evolution.
THAT, Right There, Is Amazing, And Honestly Should Be Celebrated More
Amazing work! But a a little tip or.. critique Ig from my side, some kid of gradient between different colors of grasses might be cool, so it looks more natural 😅
maybe some kind of gradient for the frontiers of the biomes as well, so the change is not so sudden
Thanks for this feedback, much appreciated! I see multiple people suggest this, so definitely something to look into.
I WILL FINALLY TOUCH GRASS!
I think adding small insects like pollinators would add so much to the game
The game has pollinators! They're just relatively large
@@TheSapling it would be cool if there were another size like tiny for things like insects, i think they could be an interesting addition to the sapling that would add a lot of depth and new mechanic possibilities ( i have no clue how hard that would be to implement tho)
Performance is always one of my top concerns, so I am glad to see it doing pretty well.
finally, watching grass grow update
Adding grass was a genius idea
love the game so far! (currently my favourite devlog series on youtube)
yesss can't wait to get home to eat cookies and watch this
I want octopus tentacles so bad
No promises, but me too
This game is coming along so well
I loved it! The game is start to looking so good!
I got the game on a very bad pc yet I love to play every day love your videos and I love your game.
Grass-type plants! I hope they will be somewhat customizable
It'll be cool if it is the inbetween plant and algae too
I can only think it would be like algae
this is WAY more customizable than you expected methinkies
@@nonsensicalhumanoid my question is if that is a new editor like algae and plants and animals or if it is made in the same editor as plant editor
@@de-zo6ex Like moss
I love it! A lot of great games set in other worlds have different grass colors, to really sell that ‘other world’ feel. I have a suggestion though, changing of sky and water color? If the light of the sun can be changed, shouldn’t that affect the atmosphere and and water color? Just a little suggestion that might go a long way!
yeah i think that'd be a nice touch. doesn't need to have much function imo, just a nice cosmetic thing
Yeah this is a cool idea, I actually looked into the science of this, but I haven't been able to turn it into a game mechanic I like so far. I do have something to say about water colors later though :)
@@TheSapling Thanks for replying :)
Your game is incredible I’ve never played anything like it before I could definitely see some big time TH-camrs getting in to it
I can confirm that grass is most definitely NOT just another feature. it's THE feature.
Every new update I get more and more excited to play this game
More things can add: parasites that live partially or entirely on larger animals, map changing you can use to create islands, or combine them with mainlands, or create mountains.
Thanks, indeed ideas I like!
Thank you for your dedication to this game, this is very much my dream evolution sim and I'm so happy to be there to see it being made!
this is going to be great
Finally I can touch grass without going outside
glad to see your being conscious about performance with grass
hope to see similar treatment with other features
Just like in Planet Zoo, people get excited about Grass being added in. LOL LOVE IT!
I really love the addition of grass and the music at the beginning is pretty good. anyway, here are some more suggestions/ideas.
6.a height scale to see how tall/long an organism is.
8. amphibious body parts and skin types
Thanks, both for the compliments and the suggestions!
Animals should be able to hide inside tall grass. it could read it's position on the texture and compare the grass height and the animal size, and have it be harder for other animals to see it if the grass is tall enough. This could result in some interesting scenarios where predators could stalk prey, or prey could evolve to be short, and harder for predators to spot.
Without making promises, indeed an idea I like!
Considering grass is known for destroying herbivore teeth via a unique level of abrasiveness, will only some herbivore mouths in The Sapling be good at eating grass like on Earth?
Me: yeah
My computer: *crying in flames*
Absolutely beautiful, I love that the grass will change colors across the landscape just like everything else. Makes for some really beautiful, alien worlds.
Can't wait to try out the update when it comes out! The Sapling is one of my favorite projects, keep up the good work Wessel!
Yes! I've been hoping for grass to be implemented at some point but wasn't sure how you'd manage the performance. Really love this, thanks!
Finally, our wildlife will get to touch grass
Now I want this game even more
random person says go touch some grass
me *loads up the sapling*
People who haven’t touched grass in there entire lifetime now will have a reason to touch it now
OH MY GOD MY SUGGESTION MADE THE CUT!
The game has been on my wishlist waiting for it to be on sale, now after seeing a few of your devlogs i think i will buy it full price. Seeing your passion gives me the trust that this game is really something great and will become even greater.
I haven't been this excited about grass since I first discovered cannabis.
Love your vlogs, keep it up!
MASSIVE excitement, very unexpected
FINALE!! I was waiting for these for sooooo loooooong!
Thank you Wessel, that is exactly what I want
I LOVE GRASS!!!! I LIKE TO WATCH SMALL GROUND PLANTS GROW AND ADAPT TO THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!
I liked the piano music at the end
Thanks, it's a variation on the game's main theme!
Just wait 25 years for the April fools update where you play this game as a survival game.
suggestion: make it so dense areas of grass can camouflage animals that have a similar height to the grass (and if possible make the advantage bigger if the color of the animal is similar to the color of the grass)
Without making promises, indeed an idea I like!
and with seagrass, it's almost like you're setting up the framework for benthic niches. All that's left is giving animals the ability to walk or crawl along the sea floor
I want crabs
Omg, i hadn't noticed it, it is a good idea
I want trilobites@@Jay2480
Without making promises, definitely an idea I like... not in this update though :/
Oh thank you for bringing grass into the game this is gonna make it feel so much more diverse
I can't wait to play this!
I no longer have to go outside to touch grass, thank you
I was thinking of sharing ideas as a comment on one of your videos, and grass was one of my ideas, giving the old brown ground from before. I also think it would be cool if there where rodents like squirrels, that would store food in the ground for later seasons, and if the creature forgets where the food was, it will simply grow into the plant that the nut was assigned to, and also insects would be cool, where they have survivability conditions, and if those conditions are not met, the creature lays eggs which stay dormant until they are.
Without making promises, indeed cool ideas! The latest thing with dormant eggs is already in the game :)
I love these devlogs
Fun fact: grass can grow underwater as well as on land. In fact, it is the ONLY flowering plant to grow underwater.
I am so happy for you I love your passion for your project I hope it continues to thrive
grass is actually a highly evolved organism, there are genetic individuals that have existed for thousands of years or more by simply cloning/vegetatively propagating themselves, the roots can grow underground and survive without light for a LONG time, and you will find those roots deep in the clay several feet down. It is a very tenacious and survivable organism. Many grasses live on poor soils and literally synthesise their required nutrients to survive out of rocky and clay substrate
This video makes me so happy, the game is really growing and it makes me think about how far it it has come and how far it will in the futer😊
Woooooo
Lol sounds great
I thought it needed ground cover
Your really talented damn.
I do suggest doing something with the save portion of the game. So we can name our save files and such. When saving I found I couldn’t tell if i saved or not after pressing the button.
Other things I would suggest is having animals being able to poop. So that it can be used as fertilizer and spread seeds at a rate that makes sense. Having grass with the ability to turn into trees and floating algae.
Thanks alot, both for your compliments and suggestions!
oh i adore this. it looks great!